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    In another thread, there has been discussion of the historic Jesus, where he came from and where he may have been after the time of crucifixion. I was interested in the Druid/Celtic connection between Jesus family and Britain.

    It reminded me of how fascinating I find the Tarim Basin Mummies of the Taklamakan Desert that range from 2500 BC to about 400 BC. These are Caucasoid Mummies and the most fascinating aspect is that the earliest mummies have tartan and other woven clothing. Later Mummies have a horse and Shamanic instruments in the burial. There was marijuana and ephedrine found in the burial goods. The textiles are amazing. Bronze items are noted before the expected historic period.

    The Mummies were found near the Silk Road. The age and sophistication of these Celtic looking people means that whatever culture that we later knew linked with the Druids could have spread worldwide. Druids may well have been connected with The historic Jesus...that was a thousand years or two later than these mummies.

    Michael Tsarion maintains that high culture spread globally from Ireland at such an early date that it preceded the later high culture of Egypt. This is what I would think of as the Global Culture wiped out by a catastrophe.

    After years of controversy and political intrigue, archaeologists using genetic testing have proven that Caucasians roamed China’s Tarim Basin 1,000 years before East Asian people arrived. The discoveries in the 1980s of the undisturbed 4,000-year-old ”Beauty of Loulan” and the younger 3,000-year-old body of the ”Cherchan Man” are legendary in world archaeological circles for the fine state of their preservation and for the wealth of knowledge they bring to modern research.

    Archeological finds connected to them made it clear that there was an ancient civilization. This has been named Tocharian and the people were referred to as the Tocharians. The Greek historians thought they were a Scythian tribe. There is evidence both from the mummies and from Chinese written records, that attest to the unique features of the early inhabitants of the Tarim Basin.

    The Roman historian Pliny mentions a people with flaxen hair and of uncommon tall proportions, who were living on the western fringes of Seres (“silk” or “from where silk is coming”). It seems that the Tocharians were also engaged in the silk trade. Two routes of the ancient Silk Road led through their territory in the Tarim Basin.



    Details about the Tochari however were sparse and the ancient world did not known were they exactly lived. They spoke Tocharian, which is one of the most obscure branches of the Indo-European language group. The existence of the Tocharian languages and alphabet was not even guessed at, until chance discoveries in the mid 20th century brought to light fragments of manuscripts in a then-unknown alphabetic syllabary that turned out to belong to a hitherto unknown branch of the Indo-European family of languages.

    In the early 20th century, Caucasian mummies in the deserts of western China were considered anomalies---perhaps just ancient travelers or immigrants. Over the past thirty years Chinese archeologists have unearthed hundreds more of these mummified Caucasoids (as well as abundant skeletal remains amounting to thousands of ancient individuals) in the Tarim basin of Central Asia. The Tarim is in the huge Taklamakan desert in the western Chinese province of Xinjiang, formerly known as eastern Turkestan.

    Today the ancient Chinese texts which speak of legendary tall people with red hair and green eyes (formerly denigrated as mere "myths") are being reinterpreted. They are not just imaginary tales as has been assumed until recently, but they tell of the very real Tocharian-branch Indo-European people, relatives of the Celts and Scythians, who possibly controlled the Silk Road during Middle and Egyptian New Kingdom times, and down to the Classical Greek era. They certainly would have been involved in the transmission of technology and culture between East and West at a very early date.

    Many of the mummies have been found in very good condition, due to the dryness of the desert. They share European features (slender, elongated bodies, angular faces, recessed eyes), and many of them have their hair intact, ranging in color from blond to red to deep brown, and generally long, curly and braided. Their clothing, also well preserved, points towards a common European Iron Age technology.

    The time span of the Central Asian Caucasoids is from 2500 BC to 400 B.C. The location is within a few hundred miles of the Altai "Scythian" burials which date from approximately 500-300 BC. There is definitely some connection here. There is also a connection between the Taklamakan people and the Crimean Scyths, the Celts and the Picts.

    They likely influenced the "indigenous" tattooing of the tribal peoples of India, and possibly are antecedent to the Jomon culture of Japan (ancestors of the tattooed Ainu). There is credible evidence that some of the tattooing tribes of northern Asia migrated eastward to become certain tribes in the Americas as well.



    http://www.tattooheaven.com/CentAsia.html

    Mysterious Mummies


    Tocharian texts and many frescoes from the Tarim Basin have been found and attribute to a high standard of the civilization. Unfortunately very often the faces on these frescos were vandalized in the past due to their "European" features.



    A later Chinese account describes the Tocharians, known in Chinese as Yuezhi as living “north of India".
    Quote "Their land is at a high altitude; the climate is dry; the region is remote. There are so many riding horses in that country that the number often reaches several hundred thousand. City layouts and palaces are quite similar to those of Daqin (the Roman empire). The skin of the people there is reddish white. People are skilful at horse archery. Local products, rarities, treasures, clothing, and upholstery are very good, and even India cannot compare with it."
    The presence of Indo-Europeans in the Tarim Basin in the 1st millennium BC suggests that cultural exchanges happened between Indo-European and Chinese populations at a very early date. It has been suggested that such activities as chariot warfare and bronze-making may have been transmitted to the east by these Indo-European nomads.

    http://www.theculturedtraveler.com/A...akla_Makan.htm

    The Tarim Basin Mummies


    Textile analysis from material found on mummies has shown some similarities to the Iron Age civilizations of Europe dating from 800 BC, including woven twill and tartan patterns strikingly similar to Celtic tartans from Northwest Europe.



    One of the unusual finds with one of the mummies was a distinctively pointy hat of a kind worn by Celtic priests or wizards (druids) and which later is found in many European cultures of Medieval times. This may suggest very ancient Indo-European roots for this garment



    Textile samples from the late second millennium B.C. found in the Tarim Basin graves also provide evidence of the diffusion of European technological sophistication to China. One fragment was a wool twill woven with a plaid design which required looms that have never before been associated with China or eastern Central Asia at such an early date. Irene Good, a specialist in textile archeology at the University of Pennsylvania, has confirmed that the plaid fabric was virtually identical stylistically and technically to textile fragments found in Austria and Germany at sites from a somewhat later period.

    Dr. Elizabeth J.W. Barber, a linguist and archeologist at Occidental College in Los Angeles and the author of Prehistoric Textiles (Princeton University Press, 1991), confirms that the Chinese did not use and did not even know twill, but obtained knowledge of the weave from the West, and only after the Han period. Significantly, there appear to be many connections between the Tarim Basin mummies and the 5,000 year old "Ice Man" found in the Austrian Alps in 1991. These include the type and style of clothing, personal artifacts, solar-religious symbolism, and tattoos for healing and decoration — as well, of course, as the distinct racial commonality.

    The evidence, therefore, increasingly seems to confirm a Celtic culture extending across Eurasia at least 4,000 years ago. As one academic, James Opie, an expert on design motifs in ancient rugs and bronze implements, has pointed out, it is highly significant that Celtic endless-knot motifs, swastikas, and animal-style decorations have been discovered from Europe, through Iran, to China.

    The religion of the Celts — including the Scythians — was solar, and three- and four-armed swastikas as solar symbols are an omnipresent element in Celtic art. Likewise, the Tarim Basin Europeans displayed a definite penchant for spiral solar symbols, painting them on their faces and engraving them on the bridles of their horses. This in itself suggests that they were Nordics who were and always have been worshippers of the sun and sky, and more generally of Nature. As Dr. Michael Puett, a historian of East Asian civilization at Harvard University, has argued, the Tarim Basin mummies reveal clear processes of a cultural diffusion from Europe outward.

    All of this supports the thesis of the pioneering archeologist Colin Renfrew, who challenged the previously accepted idea that prehistoric culture began in the Near East or Central Asia and was only later "diffused" into "barbarian" Europe. It confirms that the cultural prerequisites for civilization are much, much older in Europe than has been acknowledged, and suggests that far from Europe being civilized from outside, it was rather the rest of the world, including Asia, which was civilized by colonizing Europeans.

    http://library.flawlesslogic.com/china.htm

    Textiles of Tarim Mummies


    One of the hallmarks of Celtic culture is the use of the sacred Ogham (pronounced Oh-wum) alphabet by the Druuids, who are Celtic Brahmins. Many scholars believe that Ogham was only used by the Irish, and not by other Celts. However, this is clearly disproved by many Ogham inscriptions appearing in different places, including France, Iberia (Spain and Portugal), the Danube valley, and the Tocharian regions.

    Furthermore, inscriptions of Ogham have been found in ancient sites in Japan, some of them megalithic. One Japanese scholar who studies these inscriptions and the sites they are found in believes that the inscriptions indicate that some of the Buddhist monks who brought Buddhism to Japan were Tocharians, or had maintained the use of the sacred writing system of the Tocharians.

    There is also extensive evidence of many sorts that Celts crossed the Atlantic from Europe to North American millennia ago, long before the Viking excursions into North America, who perhaps followed Celtic routes. The evidence is archeological, epigraphical, linguistic, folkloric, among others.



    http://www.hinduwisdom.info/articles_hinduism/258.htm
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    In the book URIEL'S MACHINE the writers claim that high knowledge spread from west to east & not east to west as the main stream academics claim....

    In the book it says that Stonehenge had water filled ditches surrounding it & the ancient priest astronomers were able to track the trajectories of incoming comets
    by observing the reflections off the water in the ditches around Stonehenge.....

    Long story short the mummies in western China were the remains of western people trying to reach a place of safety . They were running from the expected giant tsunamis that would wash over the lands .......This is why there are salt water lakes in the interior of Asia.....Comets would hit the ocean and send salt water waves far inland......I realize this might sound crazy to some here but if you read the book Uriel's Machine it makes perfect sense......

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    In the book URIEL'S MACHINE the writers claim that high knowledge spread from west to east & not east to west as the main stream academics claim....

    In the book it says that Stonehenge had water filled ditches surrounding it & the ancient priest astronomers were able to track the trajectories of incoming comets
    by observing the reflections off the water in the ditches around Stonehenge.....

    Long story short the mummies in western China were the remains of western people trying to reach a place of safety . They were running from the expected giant tsunamis that would wash over the lands .......This is why there are salt water lakes in the interior of Asia.....Comets would hit the ocean and send salt water waves far inland......I realize this might sound crazy to some here but if you read the book Uriel's Machine it makes perfect sense......
    Thanks Marlowe. What time frame is Uriel's Machine describing? When was this expected? I just read about the comet strafe of 12,900 years ago being linked to the decimation of the North American continent and leading to the Younger Dryas period of ice for about 1800 years. These dates get so hard to contemplate. Thanks for suggesting the book. Maggie

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    Fascinating post Delight. These mummies are a very interesting discovery. They are also a puzzle, that cannot be easily fitted into our present knowledge. I had read about the link to the Iceman, but I do not know how far you could take that.

    There are still some families in the area with European features and pale reddish hair. They are accepted as part of the history of the region, so maybe we could listen to their folk lore to find out more about their origin, instead of archeologists imposing their ideas as they usually tend to do!

    (This may have been discussed in the video, but the sound was really hard to listen to on my computer.)

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    In the book URIEL'S MACHINE the writers claim that high knowledge spread from west to east & not east to west as the main stream academics claim....

    In the book it says that Stonehenge had water filled ditches surrounding it & the ancient priest astronomers were able to track the trajectories of incoming comets
    by observing the reflections off the water in the ditches around Stonehenge.....

    Long story short the mummies in western China were the remains of western people trying to reach a place of safety . They were running from the expected giant tsunamis that would wash over the lands .......This is why there are salt water lakes in the interior of Asia.....Comets would hit the ocean and send salt water waves far inland......I realize this might sound crazy to some here but if you read the book Uriel's Machine it makes perfect sense......
    Thanks Marlowe. What time frame is Uriel's Machine describing? When was this expected? I just read about the comet strafe of 12,900 years ago being linked to the decimation of the North American continent and leading to the Younger Dryas period of ice for about 1800 years. These dates get so hard to contemplate. Thanks for suggesting the book. Maggie
    @ Maggie...I can't say because it's been over 12 years since I read Uriel's Machine,,,However the book has a chapter on Newgrange in Ireland that at 3200 years old is more ancient than the Egyptian Pyramids and Stonehenge.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange

    If I remember correctly the people leaving Atlantis came to Ireland first and then went to Egypt...
    I was blown away by the book because it had so much new information that I had never heard of before .


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriel's_Machine

    edit to add: I think the Egyption pyramids might be very ,very old...older the 3200 years old...but who knows...
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    In the Takla Makan Desert in central Asia, mummies of non-Asian peoples were found. The mummies are dated to be 3,800 years old.

    Builders along the Silk Road were know as the Tocharians 2,000 years ago. Were they related to the Mummy People?

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    "Celtic New Zealand" is a site that has piqued my curiosity over the years, with some pretty convincing stuff on celtic bloodlines pre cannibal arrival in NZ...

    http://www.celticnz.co.nz/Nazca/Nazca1.htm

    Seems that history as we "know" it needs a rewrite...

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    In the Takla Makan Desert in central Asia, mummies of non-Asian peoples were found. The mummies are dated to be 3,800 years old.

    Builders along the Silk Road were know as the Tocharians 2,000 years ago. Were they related to the Mummy People?

    Link:
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    This is about the most interesting story I ever thought about!!!

    When I looked at the link, I saw the mummies that were discovered by the same archeologists so yes, this is the same story. The name Tocharion is used but does not really explain the people or where they came from OR where they went later. They could have been the people known as Scythians? I am curious about the earlier culture that informed the Celts AND this group from an earlier civilization?

    The language called Tocharian is the second oldest determined ( the Hittite's language is Number 1)

    It is interesting that they carried skills that even today we could do well to know.
    From what I understand, the skills of the "mummy people" look just like the skills of Celts:

    They grew grains like millet.
    They were pastoralists who had cows and sheep.
    They had the western textile looms and skill (what we think of as traditional weaving like tartans), metallurgy and customs that included the burial practice of building mounds covered by "oars" and casket "boats".
    The women were buried more extravagantly than the men.(Does this indicate Matriarchy?)
    The people used horses very early.

    Here is a picture of the burial mound 4000 years old with phallic "oars".

    Quote Their remains, though lying in one of the world’s largest deserts, are buried in upside-down boats. And where tombstones might stand, declaring pious hope for some god’s mercy in the afterlife, their cemetery sports instead a vigorous forest of phallic symbols, signaling an intense interest in the pleasures or utility of procreation. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/sc...anted=all&_r=0



    Where did they come from?
    They may have come down from the steppes or east on the silk road and the oldest mummy tested is from 1800 BC but the culture was already established. Around the time of Christ, the remnants of the group seem to have been absorbed by the group we call the Uyghurs. They may be the ones Elisa referenced could shed light on the story.

    Quote Modern scholars consider modern Uyghurs to be the descendants of a number of people, including the ancient Uyghurs of Mongolia who arrived at the Tarim Basin after the fall of Uyghur Khaganate, Iranian Saka tribes, and other Indo-European peoples who inhabited the Tarim Basin before the arrival of the Mongolian Uyghurs.[22] DNA analyses indicate that the peoples of central Asia such as the Uyghurs are all mixed Caucasian and East Asian.[23] Uyghur activists identify with the Tarim mummies, but research into the genetics of ancient Tarim mummies and their links with modern Uyghurs remain controversial, both to Chinese government officials concerned with ethnic separatism, and to Uyghur activists concerned that research could affect their claims of being indigenous to the region.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

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    Quote Posted by Shannow (here)
    "Celtic New Zealand" is a site that has piqued my curiosity over the years, with some pretty convincing stuff on celtic bloodlines pre cannibal arrival in NZ...

    http://www.celticnz.co.nz/Nazca/Nazca1.htm

    Seems that history as we "know" it needs a rewrite...
    Yes! Just the other day I was looking at the aqueducts of Nazca. They ARE incredible!

    It is obvious that an ORIGINAL culture produced expert hydrologists. I'll be curious to know what the water works in the Taklamakan were like in those ancient days? The ancient progenitor people knew water intimately.

    Quote from your website:
    Quote Before Nazca desert region could be made habitable, to sustain the sizeable population that settled there several thousand years ago, over 93-miles (150-kilometers) of mostly subterranean aqueducts had to be dug. Along with these, there were 28 filtration galleries, some of which penetrate underground over two thirds of a mile into the hard conglomerate deposits and bring out 25 litres of water per second. The trussed mummy, with the very fine, auburn-red hair, seen to the right, is typical of the tens of thousands of mummies that have been found in the region. This reddish hair colour is found on only a very small percentage of the world's population (about 1-2%). The largest, present-day concentration of redheads in the world is in the United Kingdom, where 13-percent of the population has red hair and 40-percent carry the recessive red gene. The gene is strongly represented in England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland or amongst the Germanic and Scandinavian tribes, Finns, Russians, Basques and extending to the most ancient occupants of Egypt in the Eastern Mediterranean (where the early mummies have red, blond, or other European hues of hair colour) to the former population of the Canary Islands in the Atlantic (the Gaunche ... where the early mummified people found were ethnic Europeans).

    Red hair was very prominent in the ancient Pacific, from Easter Island (where the giant, long faced statues had "red" top-knot stones placed on their heads) to New Zealand. In fact, the earliest cave burials of New Zealand (at the very ends of the Earth) were observed to be Caucasoid people with red hair. These most ancient New Zealanders also buried their dead in a trussed, sitting position, alongside personal possessions, in much the same manner as is found with the Nazca mummies. A huge amount of artefact, flora and cultural evidence shows a direct link between ancient New Zealand and Peru. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hai...c_distribution

    Well watered, fertile pockets of farmland sit adjacent or very near to the Nazca lines and ancient people, etching or using the lines, could return a reasonably short distance each evening to locations offering hospitable conditions of shelter and sustenance. In essence, the Nazca region would have been an exceptional centre for an "open-air university" if the lines were set out for the purpose of offering tutorials, of some sort, to initiate students.

    Based upon the mummy evidence of the region, these tall stature, Caucasoid, dolichocephalic-cranium, long thin faced people with typical European hues of multi-coloured hair, built the Nazca aqueducts, settled the area and made the farms productive. They then undertook the huge task of etching 800 lines and other geometric shapes and glyphs into the desert to indelibly encode their ages-old sciences, brought with them to the region from the Mediterranean and Europe.





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    Fascinating post Delight. These mummies are a very interesting discovery. They are also a puzzle, that cannot be easily fitted into our present knowledge. I had read about the link to the Iceman, but I do not know how far you could take that.

    There are still some families in the area with European features and pale reddish hair. They are accepted as part of the history of the region, so maybe we could listen to their folk lore to find out more about their origin, instead of archeologists imposing their ideas as they usually tend to do!

    (This may have been discussed in the video, but the sound was really hard to listen to on my computer.)
    Hi Elisa...
    The folk lore is apparently very reliable when understood. I would love to have the language skills to interview people. Sorry you could not hear the talks. Thanks!!

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    My theory on the Caucasian nature of the mummies is that they were descendants of European traders on the Silk Road who had settled quite profitably into a trading post somewhere along the route. One thing that most writers of the Silk Road miss is that most traders did not transverse the whole distance from Rome to Beijing themselves; they merely went from trading Post A to Post B, ferrying goods back and forth at a profit in both directions [See: arbitrage]. Someone else had a business ferrying from Post B to Post C, etc etc. And those Chinese silks, porcelains and spices got marked up each time along the route, ditto for the gold, olive oil, wine, etc that came east from Greece and Rome.

    After all, who better to be a trusted merchant in exotics than a friendly face who spoke your language? And dealing silks was like the cocaine of its day: a highly, highly profitable business.

    The book by the textile specialist shown on YouTube, Elizabeth Wayland Barber, “The Mummies of Urumchi” completely blew me away, as it did for many others. Who knew that brilliantly colored silk brocades, twills, plaids, ginghams, stripes and much more [not shown here] were au courant 4,000 years ago? And that the treasures of the Silk Road were fabrics you might still admire today?

    The discoveries of Urumiqi completely changed the design perspective of many Hollywood historical-type films. After that book, no longer did movie Roman senators wrap themselves in white sheets. Nay. They now wear colorful, sophisticated and expensively detailed silks and brocades in deep purples, crimsons and gold. The same kind of stuff you can still find in Venice today at Bevilacqua or Fortuny.

    I just love the continuity of it all. Fabrics. Who knew? Delighted to see this thread, Delight. (Pardon…) But I’ve been a big fan of the Mummies of Urumiqi for a long time.

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    My theory on the Caucasian nature of the mummies is that they were descendants of European traders on the Silk Road who had settled quite profitably into a trading post somewhere along the route. One thing that most writers of the Silk Road miss is that most traders did not transverse the whole distance from Rome to Beijing themselves; they merely went from trading Post A to Post B, ferrying goods back and forth at a profit in both directions [See: arbitrage]. Someone else had a business ferrying from Post B to Post C, etc etc. And those Chinese silks, porcelains and spices got marked up each time along the route, ditto for the gold, olive oil, wine, etc that came east from Greece and Rome.

    After all, who better to be a trusted merchant in exotics than a friendly face who spoke your language? And dealing silks was like the cocaine of its day: a highly, highly profitable business.

    The book by the textile specialist shown on YouTube, Elizabeth Wayland Barber, “The Mummies of Urumchi” completely blew me away, as it did for many others. Who knew that brilliantly colored silk brocades, twills, plaids, ginghams, stripes and much more [not shown here] were au courant 4,000 years ago? And that the treasures of the Silk Road were fabrics you might still admire today?

    The discoveries of Urumiqi completely changed the design perspective of many Hollywood historical-type films. After that book, no longer did movie Roman senators wrap themselves in white sheets. Nay. They now wear colorful, sophisticated and expensively detailed silks and brocades in deep purples, crimsons and gold. The same kind of stuff you can still find in Venice today at Bevilacqua or Fortuny.

    I just love the continuity of it all. Fabrics. Who knew? Delighted to see this thread, Delight. (Pardon…) But I’ve been a big fan of the Mummies of Urumiqi for a long time.

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    Thanks Selene. Textiles from the mummies are yummy.

    I have always felt such an affinity for trade, fabrics, spices, knowledge that the "Silk Road" is like an icon to me of a fabulous cultural expression. Way back, I noticed that there is a way to look at textiles and dress, at pottery and artifacts that is a persuasive way to trace the past.

    Most "precious" items are locked away and cannot be studied. this is tragic and if I had a gazzilion dollars and the right persuasive skills, I'd advocate and pay to unlock the treasure troves (even if it was just to rent time looking) and hire everyone I could find to open source catalog of style and connected provenience.

    If I were a Bill gates tycoon, I'd persuade that we make it THE global imperative to learn everything possible from the artifacts and technolgies and apply The BEST.

    Linguists could decipher from ancient manuscript and petroglyphs the messages and put it all together to see what fits where. Computers could help easily when applied to the task. that would be a worth while task.

    I'd like to live in a world dedicated to taking assimilation of heritage forward, building on the best. That is the definition I have of conservative.

    This would be for me the attractive global culture. Reinstate a mission of esthetics and practical Gaian-ism. The reason I call it that is because to me, we want use of tools and land, not ownership. We want to create arts more than jobs if able. We appreciate beauty. Beauty and function together make the best friends.

    Twisted into knots of limited focus, we miss out on the possibilities. The world looks old and tired if we just see the same things over and over. We have a very arid world of commercialized esthetics. And to me humans are really esthetic creatures FIRST unless we feel unable to have esthetics and survival. Then we make do.

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    I thought this was a very informative discussion here. Just like the Taklamakan desert, the American Southwest's aridity has helped preserve evidence from the past. The Pueblo People are described here along with using computers to synthesize information from different disciplines. This is George Gumerman, anthropologist and archeologist, discussing "Recreating the Past in A Computer: The Artificial Anasazi" (Part 1/3) Date: November 7, 2012.

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    This is the latest documentary I found on the mummies of the Taklamakan. It asks who were these people?

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    Worth a bump IMO. A great thread, thanks to all who contributed!

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    This is a wonderful over view of the Caucasion mummies. I was struck by the textile connection to Scots tartans and a common possible origin in the Caucasus Mountains. This story fascinates me. I would love to know more of the culture. They were nomadic. being migratory people, could they be related to the people seen in South America and other places? I think they were from a high tech culture because of the beauty and sophistication of the clothing and goods found.


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