Exceptional psychic abilities in exceptional people

[Sebastion]

Well Flash, thus far it appears we are having a problem communicating. Let us see if we can get on the same page! First, lol, I have no intention of biting you in any way imaginable. Second of all, I have no idea who "he" or "they" are so we can let that go as well, referring to your last reply to me.

I will take this opportunity to drop the next "bombshell", with an accompanying explanation. In this explanation, I am including both the body physical and the spirit, soul aspect or better yet, for simplicity sake, I will use the word, consciousness.

First of all, the brain of itself, cannot "think". It is the neurons in the brain that receives electric thought impulses from what is called the blue corona above and surrounding the head and is part of the auric field. I know this to be a first person "fact". In my initial encounter with cosmic consciousness, that is one of the things I saw happening within and without my head, body. I saw miniature "lightening bolts" entering my head and then saw/felt those flashes as "thoughts" entering my head. Time was slowed down as I observed and felt the entire process as it happened. I observed it happening for approximately 5 minutes, give or take. It was an awesome space to be in.

Second of all, it is not just the heart or just the mind so much as it has to be a splendid combination of both. True and pure intent as I define it, includes both the heart and mind, together as one operating unit. To attempt to give more attention to one or the other is essentially separating your energies and slows the process down considerably.

The blue corona is essentially your consciousness and the neurons/neural pathways is the interface between the physical body and your consciousness. The blue corona, your consciousness, is electric high frequency light. Within those frequencies lies all knowledge, the frequencies of Christ/Buddha consciousness, God realization, God consciousness. That is one reason why it is said that the way is within you for it truly is a within you process.

So to conclude, if you are of pure intent with the whole of you and persist in your endeavors towards higher spiritual knowingness, the way will be made clear within you as the appropriate neural pathways come online which give you the ability to receive higher frequency thought, knowledge and energy.

[Sierra]

The heart *has* a brain, believe it or not. There is a clump of brain cells in the heart, that activate when the heart is opened, and control of the upper brain, the meat brain, the mental only brain, is transferred to the heart.

When you have that feeling of knowing in the heart (which is only "supposed to feel"), that is the brain in the heart speaking. And it feels very loving... I suspect it is the High Self actually, coming to reside in the heart, when the heart is ready. Most of us just have flashes of that state of being, since most of us can't live there 24/7...

Yet.

[Sebastion]

You are right Sierra as I believe that was discovered in the last 10-15 yrs. I was delighted at the time I discovered that myself.

Posted by Sierra (here)
The heart *has* a brain, believe it or not. There is a clump of brain cells in the heart, that activate when the heart is opened, and control of the upper brain, the meat brain, the mental only brain, is transferred to the heart.

When you have that feeling of knowing in the heart (which is only "supposed to feel"), that is the brain in the heart speaking. And it feels very loving... I suspect it is the High Self actually, coming to reside in the heart, when the heart is ready. Most of us just have flashes of that state of being, since most of us can't live there 24/7...

Yet.

[greybeard]

Seems that the first part of the embryo to form is the heart.
It amazed scientists to find that the heart functioned/beat, without a brain.
Gregg Braden and Heartmaths pointed this out in various videos.
Yes we are all special and unique in human form but even more amazing is our true Self.
Without the Self there would not even be a world.
It converts formless into form.
Chris

[RunningDeer]

I’ve been a card carrying member of “Silva Mind Control,” since 1972. We learned techniques on how to use more than 10% of our brain. They’ve since changed the name to the “Silva Method.”

Here’s one of them:

At that time, Michael, my son, was about 10 months old. He was born with a growth near the corner of his eye. I used one of the healing techniques which was simply see it not there. So I did. I forgot about it until a couple of days later. It was gone.

Only one application needed, or more precisely stated, only one belief needed.

I’d say save your money. The book has all the techniques we learned. And for some it may be second nature with all the common place information out there now.

[Sebastion]

I wish to add to my previous posts what I forgot to include. The body itself is replete with neurons/neural pathways and it's basically the central nervous system itself. Whatever information that is received travels throughout the body, which includes the heart and heart brain. That also includes spiritual energy. As one progresses to higher frequency thought, those frequencies also permeate the physical body. Higher frequency thought carries with it higher spiritual energies. It is all connected. One becomes "integrated"

[Agape]

Not sure this counts here but it's one well tried ability of mine ... since young age , can't really recall when it started bothering me ..

the ability to walk away from mundane matters .. to go further than where I could be called back, leaving the safety behind , walk and walk and let those people who want to sit and talk in rounds where they're . Because my heart calls me and because it searches for peace ..
I did it many times, small ways when I was young, bigger ways when I grew up .. each time when I tried to resist the call for long enough till the critical point was reached and I had no choice
because my heart was rejoicing with life , longing to meet something , or someone , the greater truth in faraway distance . Never meant to come back.


Believe me or not, each time I met something or someone very special .. out there .. out of the plan .. out of the zone of human safeties .

Some people live closed in their safe boxes all life and do only what's well tried and recommended . And get to the same problems that everyone else does , and more problems as civilisation grows .

Now of course, further you go away from the 'safe zone' , more exceptional life and its circumstances turn to be. Not that I'd recommend the same to anybody, especially not to small kids. Not everyone hears the same call in their hearts .. and it's only sentient that we each feel called to different places .

The longest I walked away from this all were 6 years ..from 1999 to 2005 .. and I don't feel I really came back..certainly not in the same shape


Then of course, comes the ability to hang your ears down and come back .. that is till someone waits for you ..


If there is bigger , secret truth about my life , it has something to do with where did I came from and am I willing to come back and when . Someone, somewhere on the other side of the dimensional veil , sitting at kitchen desk .. tapping nervously on the table .. and I always get stuck,
here and there, hanging out with people , and getting lost , and walking to new adventures and getting lost again..
it has to be about that way ..


but at the end , I usually tend to make it . No matter what I meant to do and what I forgot ,

the most important thing seems to be all those curious , lovely creatures on the way ..

[Hervé]

Posted by Sebastion (here)
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One can have no awareness of anything without functioning neurons/neural pathways in the brain.


I'm all ears.....

Communication, hé?

Where the hell did such a statement come from?

Let me attempt some communication on that subject:

There's a young autistic lady who demonstrated it quite clearly, she was unable to communicate with anyone due to some very disabling motor-non-control until she managed to learn how to use a computer and mastered how to type what her AWARENESS/consciousnes was going through... she astounded everyone around! (never mind that famous physicist with his computer wheelchair...)

See?

The above quoted statement is backward: If the AWARENESS has no neural pathway to use and control to express itself, up until very recently, it was game over since communication was not possible... hence, unable to express what one's consciousness/AWARENESS was experiencing and/or knowing.

It doesn't mean that it's not there... just that it cannot be expressed comprehensibly to anyone else... think of the hard time freshly departed ghosts have of trying to communicate with their loved ones crying over their coffin... trying to tell them they are perfectly fine and happy...

Communication, hé... and the means to do it.

Which means that if the switch board (i.e. the brain) between body and "spirit"/"soul"/AWARENESS/consciousness is defective, no expression comes out into the physical; BUT, the reverse is not necessarily true: the "spirit"/"soul"/AWARENESS/consciousness does not need the body to perceive its environment... it can do so directly and do like Paula gone to Grip's library for some good reading time

[Carmody]

What about the Harvard graduate who was found to have ~+80% of his cranial cavity filled with fluid, ie, no brain?

His case was not unique.


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Someone trying to assess 'psychic abilities' or whatever one may call it, is like walking into episode 12 of a 30 episode season of a show, in season 3, and the full series is 7 years. To walk into that and try to extrapolate an understanding from something that is incomplete and like gibberish. one would have to Understand the entire complex interconnected thing, all 7 seasons of 30x shows per and then the data from the one episode fits in and makes sense. The question and answer do not fit common methods of scientific rigor and 'single cause analysis.

One must also understand that causality was killed and turned to ashes that are in everything and everywhere, in the first episode. Objectivity is left crying in the dirt like a small confused child, with no hope of ever being separate from anything, ever again. objectivity and causality are both a historical curiosity in this sort of exploration. To add, if the exploration is done as it needs to be in order to gain any form of conclusion that fits the data, causality and objectivity may be dead forever, in the mind of the explorer who is involved.

It's that stated bugaboo of the problem being more enveloping and complex than the mind doing the investigating.

Thus, if there is a problem in the investigation of the data, or any proofs, it is in the limit of the individual who is investigating. That their mind is not up to the task of discerning this particular aspect of a more complete relaity.. until they upgrade their mental considerations. They cannot reach it from where they are. No words can fill that gap. Only some form of increasing the encompassing range and depth of human mind of the investigating the individual will do.

The problem is not the data - never was, never will be.

I alternate in methods and attempts all the time, but it is mostly a discouraging case of trying to stop people from beating me down with the unwilling and emotional parts of the origins of their intellectual musings. To work at getting them to not beat me down in their ignorance, and in the middle of that, help them wrestle with their self imposed limits - while they are in some ways, trying to kill me.

I just read a bit in an article where science is now proposing an 'absolute' (proofed) the thing I've been saying for quite a long time, which is that the minds emotional origins determine the function and actuality of intellectual musing. That emotions form intellect, and emotions protect the body FIRST and above all else. Thus the mind, is formed emotionally,and the mind will push away dangers, so in the final analysis, the unaware can sit there and not be aware that their mind has pushed them away from truth, as the truth is perceived by the emotional ego-body, as a danger, at the utmost and deepest level. Remember about 90% of us is below the conscious 'words in head' mental formation and function.

They can't see it, as the thought has not been allowed to form. Not only is this possible but it is the fundamental reality in..oh... about... 100% of all people (give or take a percentage point or two ).

That your own mind (remember it is a body formation projection) blocks you from discovery and investigation, it intellectually blanks you out - in it's deepest fears.

eg, that everything happening in the world right now is about maintaining the ego-body in it's position of being in charge of mind formation and thought formation. To make SURE that people remain blanked out. (blanked from intellectual awareness of true reality)

[Hervé]

Posted by Carmody (here)
What about the Harvard graduate who was found to have ~+80% of his cranial cavity filled with fluid, ie, no brain?

His case was not unique.

Touché!

However I would think it does take a driver/being in fairly good shape in order to coordinate a body without the usual switchboard...

[Sebastion]

Sorry Amzer(welcome back, long time no see!)

In answer to your question the people you sight as examples still obviously have functioning neural networks, if only partially, in good working order.

I made no statements regarding abilities to communicate/motor skills, etc. one way or another. I fail to see anything which may be inconsistent with what you have said. Awareness is always there, it makes no difference whether the body is alive or dead. If there is no electrical activity in the brain, the person is considered brain dead, obviously the consciousness is not. As long as there is measurable electrical activity in the brain, then obviously awareness still resides within the body.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Sebastion (here)
...

One can have no awareness of anything without functioning neurons/neural pathways in the brain.


I'm all ears.....

Communication, hé?

Where the hell did such a statement come from?

Let me attempt some communication on that subject:

There's a young autistic lady who demonstrated it quite clearly, she was unable to communicate with anyone due to some very disabling motor-non-control until she managed to learn how to use a computer and mastered how to type what her AWARENESS/consciousnes was going through... she astounded everyone around! (never mind that famous physicist with his computer wheelchair...)

See?

The above quoted statement is backward: If the AWARENESS has no neural pathway to use and control to express itself, up until very recently, it was game over since communication was not possible... hence, unable to express what one's consciousness/AWARENESS was experiencing and/or knowing.

It doesn't mean that it's not there... just that it cannot be expressed comprehensibly to anyone else... think of the hard time freshly departed ghosts have of trying to communicate with their loved ones crying over their coffin... trying to tell them they are perfectly fine and happy...

Communication, hé... and the means to do it.

Which means that if the switch board (i.e. the brain) between body and "spirit"/"soul"/AWARENESS/consciousness is defective, no expression comes out into the physical; BUT, the reverse is not necessarily true: the "spirit"/"soul"/AWARENESS/consciousness does not need the body to perceive its environment... it can do so directly and do like Paula gone to Grip's library for some good reading time

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I just read a bit in an article where science is now proposing an 'absolute' (proofed) the thing I've been saying for quite a long time, which is that the minds emotional origins determine the function and actuality of intellectual musing. That emotions form intellect, and emotions protect the body FIRST and above all else. Thus the mind, is formed emotionally,and the mind will push away dangers, so in the final analysis, the unaware can sit there and not be aware that their mind has pushed them away from truth, as the truth is perceived by the emotional ego-body, as a danger, at the utmost and deepest level. Remember about 90% of us is below the conscious 'words in head' mental formation and function.

They can't see it, as the thought has not been allowed to form. Not only is this possible but it is the fundamental reality in..oh... about... 100% of all people (give or take a percentage point or two ).

That your own mind (remember it is a body formation projection) blocks you from discovery and investigation, it intellectually blanks you out - in it's deepest fears.

eg, that everything happening in the world right now is about maintaining the ego-body in it's position of being in charge of mind formation and thought formation. To make SURE that people remain blanked out. (blanked from intellectual awareness of true reality)

Since this thing has now been accepted as a norm, this means the FIRST group of beings that evolved naturally (as a percentage of societal and birth norms) (we will take is a given, for the moment) to be free of emotionalism blocking up their thought formation and preventing intellectual development..is ..wait for it... the sociopath.

Science has just told you that the first and original dark nasty insider is the secret society sociopath.

The businessman, the corporatist, the politician, the financer, The warrior, the killer.... the gathered elitists. And they...breed together. Hey, why not. Like goes with like, so they breed a nastier sort, generation after generation.

Another thought is that it is the final stage of the avatar, the actual adult stage. the one where the self protect emotions are put to rest.

Which, right now, less than 1-2% of us will ever get to, as this final adult stage is not recognized as even existing, by those of blocked mind. Getting past it means a rage and storm of mind/intellect growth that only those who make it past..will ever understand.

regarding the west... as long as tittes, beer, and football take center stage, humanity is a lost cause. All that crap has to go.

(side note) it seems one has to be an owner of a large sports team to be accepted by the US elitists. To be making sure that mind blocking soma exists for the sheep and cows.

To return to the subject at hand, the intellectual growth allows for a greater connectivity to the neural pathways, or energetic pathways that connect to the universe and dimensional realities that represent what we call 'psychic skills'.

The first thing that the fledgeling wizard learns, while in the act of the initial stages, is that they must burn them selves down at any and all personal costs, outside of all mentally and bodily conceivable limits...to emerge new.

[Flash]

we are on the same page. Then tell me, why did you previously ask me those "stupid" questions. Stupid because they were really not at you level of comprehension (overall comprehension, brain, heart and spirit)?

Posted by Sebastion (here)
Well Flash, thus far it appears we are having a problem communicating. Let us see if we can get on the same page! First, lol, I have no intention of biting you in any way imaginable. Second of all, I have no idea who "he" or "they" are so we can let that go as well, referring to your last reply to me.

I will take this opportunity to drop the next "bombshell", with an accompanying explanation. In this explanation, I am including both the body physical and the spirit, soul aspect or better yet, for simplicity sake, I will use the word, consciousness.

First of all, the brain of itself, cannot "think". It is the neurons in the brain that receives electric thought impulses from what is called the blue corona above and surrounding the head and is part of the auric field. I know this to be a first person "fact". In my initial encounter with cosmic consciousness, that is one of the things I saw happening within and without my head, body. I saw miniature "lightening bolts" entering my head and then saw/felt those flashes as "thoughts" entering my head. Time was slowed down as I observed and felt the entire process as it happened. I observed it happening for approximately 5 minutes, give or take. It was an awesome space to be in.

Second of all, it is not just the heart or just the mind so much as it has to be a splendid combination of both. True and pure intent as I define it, includes both the heart and mind, together as one operating unit. To attempt to give more attention to one or the other is essentially separating your energies and slows the process down considerably.

The blue corona is essentially your consciousness and the neurons/neural pathways is the interface between the physical body and your consciousness. The blue corona, your consciousness, is electric high frequency light. Within those frequencies lies all knowledge, the frequencies of Christ/Buddha consciousness, God realization, God consciousness. That is one reason why it is said that the way is within you for it truly is a within you process.

So to conclude, if you are of pure intent with the whole of you and persist in your endeavors towards higher spiritual knowingness, the way will be made clear within you as the appropriate neural pathways come online which give you the ability to receive higher frequency thought, knowledge and energy.

[Sierra]

Flash, Sebastian, this is a very good thread, and I'd hate to see it go down the tubes. Can you two take it to PMs if you have to go at it? Or be a little politer ...

Thanks (yes, I know I'm a "stupid" mod for asking, that is a given )...

Sierra

[Sebastion]

Lol Sierra, I have no intentions at all of getting into any disagreement with Flash or anyone else and I certainly don't wish to see this thread go down the tubes, as it were. I have said all I wish to say currently within this thread, such as it is right now. My apologies to Flash if any affronts were perceived, because none were intended.

Posted by Sierra (here)
Flash, Sebastian, this is a very good thread, and I'd hate to see it go down the tubes. Can you two take it to PMs if you have to go at it? Or be a little politer ...

Thanks (yes, I know I'm a "stupid" mod for asking, that is a given )...

Sierra

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I liked this thread before the personal stuff started, too.
It's supposed to be about psychic experiences, not psychic skepticism...

[nomadguy]

There is a term out there that I find interesting that, >to me must be an intricate part of exceptional psychic abilities. And this is "Heart Coherence". I think this can be best represented as seamless information flow between the heart-mind and head-mind.

From that interaction become a whole set of extraordinary perceptions and perhaps abilities.
This is not a new discovery, hindu yogi's, monks from Tibet and people elsewhere have been teaching ways to harness these abilities for an incredibly long time. The beginning of this genesis as a human condition is lost to us. -

A few references
reference 1 -
reference 2

[Strat]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Gregg Braden and Heartmaths pointed this out in various videos.

I think this is the institute you're talking about http://www.heartmath.org/
I discovered this when researching the EmWave (it's a bit pricey so I hesitated buying it) after I heard Dave Asprey talking about it.

I use the EmWave nowadays and that thing is no joke. (For me) It doesn't have the same effect as meditation but it helps me focus. It literally improved my pool game because it's much easier to get in the zone.

[minkton]

carmody do you truly believe the number is as high as 1 or 2 %? Where did you get that figure from?

[Flash]

Carmody wrote: Since this thing has now been accepted as a norm, this means the FIRST group of beings that evolved naturally (as a percentage of societal and birth norms) (we will take is a given, for the moment) to be free of emotionalism blocking up their thought formation and preventing intellectual development..is ..wait for it... the sociopath.

Another thought is that it is the final stage of the avatar, the actual adult stage. the one where the self protect emotions are put to rest.

Which, right now, less than 1-2% of us will ever get to, as this final adult stage is not recognized as even existing, by those of blocked mind. Getting past it means a rage and storm of mind/intellect growth that only those who make it past..will ever understand.

To return to the subject at hand, the intellectual growth allows for a greater connectivity to the neural pathways, or energetic pathways that connect to the universe and dimensional realities that represent what we call 'psychic skills'.

The first thing that the fledgeling wizard learns, while in the act of the initial stages, is that they must burn them selves down at any and all personal costs, outside of all mentally and bodily conceivable limits...to emerge new.

I must say that my first reaction was kind of emotional, therefore not allowing the truth, a blocked mind. Then I reread and reread.

Intellectual development and burning of all bridges makes one emerge new with psychic power. Clear enough.

It seems to me that you are talking about the left path Carmody. Although the right path may be quite similar in its shape, mostly concerning emotions blocking intellectual/psychic development, what would be the similarities and differences? Yes, my terminology is conditional purposefully, because the differences may be about nil at certain development levels. But at the end, what are the differences? Are we to become all sociopaths, if we develop correctly? (goes against the psychopath monkeys that died and left out a society finally functioning for the welfare of all).