Is the white light after we die a trap?

[Kalamos]

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[Roisin]

Posted by Calamus (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
As above, so below. We create our own reality. Whatever you BELIEVE wrt to what happens when we pass over.... it WILL happen or be there.

If you believe that white light is a trap but go into it anyway, it will still be a trap.
For others who believe that that white light leads us to paradise, that's where they will go when they enter it.

I like to believe this. And so I choose to believe it for now.

If there is an astral plane, the place of dreams and nightmares, than it may shape according to our emotions. I've always read that this is the case, when we die, we first go there till we burn our fears and desires of the life. Then we move on to the light, perhaps the mental plane. Less dynamic, more real. Not the highest we can go (to be liberated ... That may be the Casual plane of theosophists)

I meant "white light" .... not "white like". Lol, I have a nagging tooth ache hence why I'm making grammatical errors today.

[Kalamos]

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[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)

Clear light means clarity.

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Don't stand on the railroad tracks, that's not clarity coming your way.

[Shezbeth]

Posted by johnf (here)
I experienced a light, but it did not feel blinding at all.
It was golden colored, not white. This vast energy was the only thing I knew about, or "remembered".

Thank you John, I have had a similar experience with a singular golden light. I've never described it because I wanted to first hear it exist for someone else, that it might be co-analyzed.

I wasn't seeing it at all, not in respect to eyes or sensory organs - they were pointed toward a movie according to observers of my body at the time and not of any memory - it simply was. I had no difficulty observing it (it wasn't obscured or blinding or anything) and it essentially filled my awareness. More accurately there was nothing otherwise of which I could be aware at that dimension/level of perception; There was no turning away. Despite this, I was aware of it, signifying an objective/subjective relationship; I have come to consider that singular golden light as being the singularity of which we are all manifestations of, but that last is only my opinion. I recognize the contradiction of being subjectively aware of a singularity.

I am entirely without experience of a white tunnel, light, or whatever. I would confront such with my intent.

[Davidallany]

Robert Morningsky warns us not to go into the white light we see when we die because it is a trap to further our enslavement and put us straight back into another body. He says to stop, look around, go out into space and find your own light.

This sounds very difficult to do. Searching space for one's own light, where to start and how to deal with the unknown, such as tricky beings and bullies?

[Wookie]

I don't "know" there is a light after I die, haven't tried death yet. Once dead however, I imagine that time wouldn't be an issue so whats the harm in having a little poke around. If I can be still and just take it all in for a while. Maybe read the instruction manual, maybe not, I do like to wing it. I have heard death described as the last great adventure, what great adventure doesn't have its fair share of darkness. Maybe, just maybe, duality will not be such a hang up on the other side. To be fair I have no idea

Peaceful Journeys Wookie

[Sirius White]

Yes.

It is part of the "Wheel" in eastern terms.

The karmic cycle.

Or the "prison" as gnostics would say.

No different than an anesthetic really. But you don't really have much of a choice if you haven't evolved your lightbody to a degree where it can break free. This what it means to be an "immortal" in the daoist sense.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I mentioned the stone earlier as a trap...

The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centers. link

as I see it, these billions of souls were being captured, not to be reborn, but to be released for the final battle between good and evil...

I pissed off the dark magician Abbadon when I set them all free...


not on my watch...

[Christine]

Hey Rocky - I don't know what we have been doing lately but it sure feels magical. I worked on the Mecca stone a month or so ago. (I have all the data recorded.) All I can say is that my perceptions matched yours. I work with a few others and as we worked to release the entity that was embedded in the stone we were aware of the millions if not billions of others that can go free now.

Lots of them need rehabilitation but that too is present in the ethereal. More later.....

To add, the axis or vortexes of power on the planet have to a great extent been taken over... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I mentioned the stone earlier as a trap...

The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centers. link

as I see it, these billions of souls were being captured, not to be reborn, but to be released for the final battle between good and evil...

I pissed off the dark magician Abbadon when I set them all free...


not on my watch...

[Rocky_Shorz]

the stone at the beginning was a female symbol which is easy to recognize but the men took it away from them along with the religion...

that is when it became a trap, the females went to heaven, the men were locked in the Hall of Kings in complete darkness...

it is a pilgrimage required for everyone in Islam who could afford it so no one escaped...

none of their natural leaders were ever being reborn to lead again...


after posting that, I went over to Camelot, and noticed the whistle blower had quite a lot to say about Islam being victims... I guess that's why another messenger was sent to help them get on the path meant to be...

the Bible was written with a message in the end written for The Church of Saudis to let them know the Big guy didn't want them to continue on that path...

did you get a look at the entity involved?

Abaddon/RA was trapped in the darkness after the gateway was destroyed, maybe he had somehow found his way into the stone...

thanks for the heads up, I need to make sure he isn't building up his powers again...

watch for pockets of hatred rising up in the world...

seems like the opposite though with both Syria and Iran moving towards peace with the world...

maybe even the dark magician deserved another chance...

of course after our battle when I reached down to help him up, he stabbed me with a knife, Mohammad had to call for Jesus to heal me before I passed after that deception...

[Calz]

Posted by Christine (here)
Hey Rocky - I don't know what we have been doing lately but it sure feels magical. I worked on the Mecca stone a month or so ago. (I have all the data recorded.) All I can say is that my perceptions matched yours. I work with a few others and as we worked to release the entity that was embedded in the stone we were aware of the millions if not billions of others that can go free now.

Lots of them need rehabilitation but that too is present in the ethereal. More later.....

To add, the axis or vortexes of power on the planet have to a great extent been taken over... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I mentioned the stone earlier as a trap...

The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centers. link

as I see it, these billions of souls were being captured, not to be reborn, but to be released for the final battle between good and evil...

I pissed off the dark magician Abbadon when I set them all free...


not on my watch...

Wow .... heady stuff there.

In light of this (pun shamelessly intended yet a serious inquiry ...) to tie this information back to topic ... how might this impact that OMG I am dead ... what to do moment???

Or is this still a process and the jury is still out (probably a duh question ... but I'll take the plunge)

(see I told you the Universe keeps doing this to me ... *sigh*)

[Christine]

Hi Calz,

Yes, heady stuff... but more importantly it is heart stuff. What I see from my perceptions is the following. The liberation of trapped, implanted, fooled, abused, fill in the blank, souls is only accomplished when they come to consciousness of release and accept the reinstatement of their Free Will. (Some will argue that we always have it, and to a certain extent true, however other aspects of our soul make-up have left us susceptible to false data and we do become trapped in repetitious cycles). So freeing is never about controlling them further. The release moment is felt and the accompanying sense is clarity, yes a lightening of mass.

So how does this impact our leaving the body moment? Ah, that is the topic of this thread and I actually intended to write something about that too.

I am of the opinion that by sharing our experiences we find our answers. There doesn't appear to be any single answer for everyone and most certainly the state of your consciousness will determine what the afterlife will be, or at least that is what I think now.

Another very profound moment came for me the other morning in my mediation. I clearly (my mind and heart) saw and was told that the implanters (yes, I have had contact with many of them) that have been stationed around the planet have been disempowered for the most part. How? There are now more angel warriors and BEings of light that have literally surrounded them. What this means is that when a soul leaves the body it will be met with a guide... sort of like the Buddhist ceremonies that accompany the departed.

I have been trying to imagine this state, for the most part death knocks on our door and we aren't prepared, so Wow! how valuable a thread like this to get us conscious.

What I am personally aware of are cocoons, a place where the spiritual being can make a cocoon and rest if desired. When our consciousness opens up enough we may know where we want to go or experience next, we should be able to instantaneously be where ever we desire.

So again we come to the KNOWing of one SELF.. .. the never losing that SELF in the sea of forgetfulness again. If we leave body and stay intact we will KNOW where to go. If we leave body confused or attached to unfinished business I guess we will choose to come back here. If we postulate to not become trapped and hold this as a reality we should, by the re-instated cosmic law, be free.

Just some musings.. not sure yet but I have definitely put this into my mind to consider.

I found this image and I liked it... the swirl of angelic beings and the two standing in consideration. Pause and choice.

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by Christine (here)
Hey Rocky - I don't know what we have been doing lately but it sure feels magical. I worked on the Mecca stone a month or so ago. (I have all the data recorded.) All I can say is that my perceptions matched yours. I work with a few others and as we worked to release the entity that was embedded in the stone we were aware of the millions if not billions of others that can go free now.

Lots of them need rehabilitation but that too is present in the ethereal. More later.....

To add, the axis or vortexes of power on the planet have to a great extent been taken over... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I mentioned the stone earlier as a trap...

The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centers. link

as I see it, these billions of souls were being captured, not to be reborn, but to be released for the final battle between good and evil...

I pissed off the dark magician Abbadon when I set them all free...


not on my watch...

Wow .... heady stuff there.

In light of this (pun shamelessly intended yet a serious inquiry ...) to tie this information back to topic ... how might this impact that OMG I am dead ... what to do moment???

Or is this still a process and the jury is still out (probably a duh question ... but I'll take the plunge)

(see I told you the Universe keeps doing this to me ... *sigh*)

[Hervé]

Posted by Christine (here)
...

To add, the axis or vortexes of power on the planet have to a great extent been taken over... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

...

Some called them "Wells of Souls":

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post479664

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
With respect to these sacrificial rituals and what is achieved through them, here is a little known usage in order to control Earth's energy grid:


Then in December, in Dooney's chat, we were systematically boosting all the occult banking families. We were working up the Rothschilds, and a power base they have in Paris. I think on Nancy's intuitive prompting, we all soon realized the Rothschilds were using the Obelisks in Paris to transmit and collect energy. Then we started realizing the obelisks were over corrupted earth vortices, with trapped guardians. We spent some time addressing the grief energy over Diana's murder that was being collected and used against humanity. We were finding wells of souls under them also. A well of souls is a deep pit of trapped, grief shattered souls whose energy is being controlled and used like a generator by the sickos of the world. We had a rollicking time.

Vigeland Park in Oslo

From: http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/vi...ad=4153&t=1596

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by Christine (here)
Hey Rocky - I don't know what we have been doing lately but it sure feels magical. I worked on the Mecca stone a month or so ago. (I have all the data recorded.) All I can say is that my perceptions matched yours. I work with a few others and as we worked to release the entity that was embedded in the stone we were aware of the millions if not billions of others that can go free now.

Lots of them need rehabilitation but that too is present in the ethereal. More later.....

To add, the axis or vortexes of power on the planet have to a great extent been taken over... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I mentioned the stone earlier as a trap...

The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centers. link

as I see it, these billions of souls were being captured, not to be reborn, but to be released for the final battle between good and evil...

I pissed off the dark magician Abbadon when I set them all free...


not on my watch...

Wow .... heady stuff there.

In light of this (pun shamelessly intended yet a serious inquiry ...) to tie this information back to topic ... how might this impact that OMG I am dead ... what to do moment???

Or is this still a process and the jury is still out (probably a duh question ... but I'll take the plunge)

(see I told you the Universe keeps doing this to me ... *sigh*)

I might be able to help answer this question that seems to be heavy on your mind...

when I was helping in solving missing children cases, on occasion, I would find the child's body, with their Spirit sitting beside it crying...

I would comfort them and let them know I would get them justice, and as the tears stopped, the light appeared for them to step into...

so I guess you need to be ready to go forward before it appears...

many cases, I wouldn't know the questions when we first met, but as it moved forward I would have questions and could step to Nirvana to talk with the child.

they were always there, with full memory of what they experienced in their past life...

so do I feel the white light is a trap?

absolutely not...

say your goodbyes to loved ones, you can always step back to visit, be at peace and step forward with no worries...

[Rocky_Shorz]

as for judgement?

after the London bombing I was by the gates as the people were moving forward and the ground opened up under a few and they disappeared in a puff of smoke...

when a Spirit loses control of the conscious mind and commits an atrocity, it no longer is a part of the cycle of life...

and as for the 72 virgins?


they have beards...

[Finefeather]

Posted by Christine (here)
... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

Only if the Beings free will does not violate cosmic laws...in which case the Being would be acting out of harmony with Cosmic Law.
There is no Being above cosmic law, even the 'God'...each has chosen...if any...is controlled by Cosmic Law.

Free will is a myth and where it reigns chaos is found...as it does on this planet.
Unity is never a separation of 'free wills' but a state of 'right wills' practised by all.

Take care
Ray

[Shezbeth]

Here is what I have come to subjectively conclude pertaining to lights and the cessation of the body.

Unrestrained by the physical and material body, all of existence is two lights dancing in eternity. The material body - in a very long and drawn out manner of speaking - is the result of those two lights coming into contact, and serves a purpose comparable to that of a lampshade. Removing the lampshade exposes the one light to the other, and the dance can begin again.

I recognize that the two lights are the one, but it is far more satisfying to dance as together than to dance alone. The two lights, in manifesting as two but being of the one, are divided only by context. That is all any of these infinite physical forms - the lampshades - are,... a context in which to experience.

Therefore - Whether one seeks to escape the light at the cessation of body, whether one stops and observes, or whether one goes toward the light, the result is the same; They dance.

Besides, preference is subjective.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Christine (here)
Hey Rocky - I don't know what we have been doing lately but it sure feels magical. I worked on the Mecca stone a month or so ago. (I have all the data recorded.) All I can say is that my perceptions matched yours. I work with a few others and as we worked to release the entity that was embedded in the stone we were aware of the millions if not billions of others that can go free now.

Lots of them need rehabilitation but that too is present in the ethereal. More later.....

To add, the axis or vortexes of power on the planet have to a great extent been taken over... anything that traps a being's free will, energy, devotion is in violation of cosmic law.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I mentioned the stone earlier as a trap...

The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centers. link

as I see it, these billions of souls were being captured, not to be reborn, but to be released for the final battle between good and evil...

I pissed off the dark magician Abbadon when I set them all free...


not on my watch...

Good news everyone, I met with the Holy Spirit in my dreams last night to answer my question on whether the Dark Magician/Abaddon/False Prophet has been released, and he is gone forever after jumping in the pit of fire.

what was in the stone was one of the beings that came through the London portal during the devil worship gathering when Avalon was under attack.

it is just a twisted Spirit and one we can vanquish in a thought...



I'll offer one Miracle as a bounty to the Spiritual Warrior that takes it down...

[Shezbeth]

One person's divine revelation is another person's hallucination,....

Speaking of subjective hallucinations, is anyone else reminded of the game Eternal Darkness for N64? You know, the tower of cemented dead people.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)