Crazy China! Forty People Broke into the 4th Branch of Our Community Without Any Lawful Documents!

[xidaijena]

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[xidaijena]

The Second Home was set up in April, 2009. The 1st branch of the Second Home was located in Anning City of Yunnan Province. After four and a half years of construction, it has already become a land of idyllic beauty.

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Contrastive Photos : Before and After the Building of All 3 Branches in the Second Home

[Mike Gorman]

Why are the local people so angry about you being there-can't you get the police to help you, the authorities to defend your rights to the land?

[xidaijena]

The 3rd branch of the Second Home was established in June, 2011. After two and a half years of constructiuon, it has also become a beautiful place where is full of green trees, colorful flowers, and lots of birds singing.

It was forced to close by the local governments from April to November of 2013. No feedback was given nor action taken during the six months when the road leading to the third branch was vandalised, the power and network cables were cut, and part of our gate was pulled down.

In November of 2013, under the threat of forty local villagers and local government bureaus, the forty members who lived in the 3rd branch were forced to withdraw, beginning on the ninth and finishing on the nineteenth.

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Contrastive Photos : Before and After the Building of All 3 Branches in the Second Home

[xidaijena]

The 4th branch of the Second Home was set up in August of 2011. For two and a half years, we have devoted all of our human effort, material resources, and money to transform this wild land into a real paradise. It has hosted many foreign visitors from fifteen countries around the world.

Beginning November 30, 2013, and continuing through today, we are being forced to close down by the local governments, with no written legal documents.


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Contrastive Photos : Before and After the Building of All 3 Branches in the Second Home

[xidaijena]

Posted by GalaxyHorse (here)
Why are the local people so angry about you being there-can't you get the police to help you, the authorities to defend your rights to the land?

Thank you for asking, dear. They think we will be a big threat to the society and will do something illegal in the future. They didn't believe and couldn't understand what the community is. They just try all means to dismiss us. It's not the centre govenments' decision but local governments'. When we share the news about the 3rd branch on the Internet, because there were no pics, the policemen couldn't and didn't want to help us.

But now we have pics in the 4th branch, and one of our sisters was hurt by them, there came 4 policemen to see the situation this afternoon. There's no result for the local policemen didn't want to help us. So this is why I need your help here to spread the crazy matter so wildely to let Chinese President Xi Jinping know and solve it!

[Milneman]

We can do nothing. I'm sad to say that, but it's the truth.

Your government has repeatedly oppressed those it considers threats, that it considers dangerous to its continued existence. The reality is the people of your country must initiate the change from within. And this is going to be hard. But how badly do you want it?

If what I've read follows true, it's time for the Asian spring.

I really...really...hate to say this, given how desperate your situation is. Remember 1989. Remember Tibet. You are the next Tibet.

I pray the Blessed Mother will watch over and protect you.

***edit***

Just to point out a very obvious fact. If you're posting from inside The People's Republic of China, the government will be reading what you're sending, and what we're sending back in return. Just saying.

[wisky]

Posted by xidaijena (here)
But now we have pics in the 4th branch, and one of our sisters was hurt by them, there came 4 policemen to see the situation this afternoon. There're no result for the local policemen didn't want to help us. So this is why I need your help here to spread the crazy matter so wildely to let Chinese President Xi Jinping know and solve it!

You are certainly serving humanity well, but from the controllers' perspective, what you are doing is a threat to their control system. In their shoes/mind: What if more people follow your ideas and start building their own eco village. Remember the game of them is called ultimate control. Spreading the matter wide MAY NOT be a wise idea/decision from my humble opinion. Letting your president know MAY cause you more new troubles than solving your existing one. If I were you, I will stay low profile, do your job, but be a street smart, try getting along well with different parties(including local officials), and let time and chaos passes.

After the storm is over, you and your villagers will thrive!

[mosquito]

You need to be careful, there are obviously forces at work here that don't want your community to flourish. As a foreigner in China, I'm VERY well treated; in nearly 6 years, I have NEVER witnessed anything untoward, and am only aware of the unpleasantness that goes on here via some friends. I don't know the fullness of your situation, and can only suggest that if your occupation of the land is 100% legal, and if your community leader hasn't done anything to antagonize a local official, then I'd like to believe the police should help you. It seems that the people attacking you are "local" people, but from the photos, they do not look like local peasant farmers to me ! If they are, they don't resemble any of the countryside dwellers I encounter in Sichuan. Is there a possibility they are government people mascarading as locals ??

I don't know. But it certainly seems as though there is much more going on here than a simple dispute with a village community. Does your community leader have any influential contacts ? Have you taken legal advice ?

Good luck, 小心啊！

[CD7]

My heart goes out to you xidaijena and all the people living in your community...its an extremely frustrating situation--<3 <3 <3

[Bill Ryan]

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My sincere thanks indeed for sharing this important story -- from the other side of the world from many of us! I'm very glad you are here with us on Avalon. The perspective you can provide can help us all a very great deal.

There's some evidence to suggest that communities like yours are regarded as potential threats by authorities in almost every country. Avalon member giovonni, who lives with James Gilliand on his ranch community ECETI, in Washington State in the Northwest USA, will be happy to tell the story about how James's community was also attacked by local authorities with an apparent agenda to take him down.

Giovonni reports regularly from James' ranch, on this thread:

Up At The Ranch And Beyond

It's almost like a kind of religious persecution, that's been going on for thousands of years in every culture. If you are 'different', and are seeking to live your life according to different principles, values and beliefs, that's always a threat to the control system of the state. It's seen throughout history, and it's a kind of archetype: that's also why that very theme is at the center of the storyline of so many Hollywood movies (the most recent of those is The Hunger Games). Everyone recognizes it. It's always there.

I wish you well in everything you're doing. It feels important, and it also feels very important that you're able to thrive and succeed in your vision. We salute you and all your friends. Please let them know that there are people now in Australia, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India, and both North and South America (and other places too!) who are all supporting you.




The above image is taken from the movie The Hunger Games. I can't know if you have seen this in China. The heroine, Katniss Everdeen, makes a three-fingered salute to the millions that are watching her in the televised fight-to-the-death contest -- inspiring a revolution as she does so.

[christian]

Like a pack of jealous hyenas!

I'm very sorry to hear this. Thank you for your efforts, Jena, you're stellar!

It may surprise many, but homeowners' rights seem to be quite well protected in China, judging by what happened in the case of a man who owned a building right where a highway was supposed to be constructed. He had the right to keep his house or be compensated. Eventually he agreed to the latter.

If there's vicious people from the local authorities against you, maybe then it's appropriate to let the central government know that local authorities are abusing their power, which would be something that the central government would not want. – 天高皇帝远

In a case like yours, you just gotta think strategically, because being in the right morally doesn't help you when push comes to shove. You gotta see who could have an interest in helping you or who could have an interest in pushing back those who attack you. Find out what leverage you have, who your allies could be, very pragmatically, and go for it, gently but firmly.

Good luck, always!

[Nasu]

Thank you for posting this, like Bill said your vision and situation are special, the work you do is important, thank you. I do not know the locals as you do, nor do I have the understandings that you do, regarding the local political or cultural environment, but I do have one small piece of advice, for what it's worth.

Your old countryman Master Zi or Sun Zu pointed out that if you are weak yet occupy a central position, either geographically or mentally, you should put great effort to make ally's and friends! Make ally's of your neighbor wherever you can. If one or two remain firmly against your position, with work and time, they will become the minority.

Let your enemies plot, while you focus your intentions instead on helping people OUTSIDE of your community, with the support of your wider community you undermine their strength.

Together we are stronger. Love to you, your family and your mission...x... N (holding up one hand with three finger salute)

[ghostrider]

The show of force is designed to spread fear into your peaceful environment , the ptb do not want people to be free , or peaceful , and especially organized in living , growing food , depending on yourselves ... The mention of their statement you have ten days , now your group will have sleepless nights and live in fear of what may or may not happen ...Peacefully protesting and standing your ground will openly show the governments tyranny and insanity to the world ... we wish you all the best in your struggle to live and be free ... we can spread the word , the one thing leaders fear the most , being treated like celebrity , shinning the light on them , making them famous around the world ...thus exposing their dirty deeds ...

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Hello Xidaijena


While i empithise with your situation whats needed right now is to effect fast counter measures to ensure your safety.

Firstly what is being done to repair and fortify your front gate ? If it can be kicked in so easily then you may risk a return attack.

Secondly how many men do you have in your community ?

As part of your community do you learn self defence ? Any sort of dicipline to encourage strength and confidence ?

What i can see is a long narrow path to your front gate ? this is good , its important to make the front door hard to get into. This will bide you time in future and also act as a deterrant.

Its no use relying on police etc .. half of these mean are possibly off duty police officers.

Either way i would put in an official complaint with photos and lodge it at your local station then lodge one with your local UN civil rights station.

Dont rely on them to help ,assume they will do nothing, in the mean time fortify your home to make it less of a target.

N

[blufire]

Jena, I first want to apologize to you for what I am about to say. I challenged you on this thread of yours: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rnational-Help

And I am going to challenge you again.

I also want to be clear in saying that I do believe you and the people in your community, that have lived and worked side by side these past few years, are innocents and victims.

There is little doubt in my mind that this solely and I mean solely comes down to money and who put up the very large sums of money to buy this land and all the very expensive and extraordinary improvements and infrastructure.

You said:

Hearing the noices, everyone run up to the gate. We emphasised again that without any offical or legal paper they are not allowed to enter into this land. But they didn't listen to us and the children were frightened and cried. They entered and announced the land belongs to them and they are coming to take the land back. When seeing some of our people took photos, they shouted to us, tried to take our cameras rudely.

Finally we drove them away and they said we should move out in 10 days. Of course we won't do that and let's see what will continue the next!

These men said the land belonged to them and that you had to be out in 10 days . . . . and I bet they are more than correct.

I do not feel this has much to do with the ideals you have about your eco village and living in harmony with each other and who you call the Creator.

Jena you and the other community members that have lived there the last 2 or 4 (?) years and have done an incredible amount of work to make your community as beautiful as it is today, but in my business/logical mind I keep coming back to who paid all the money for the land, building materials, utilities, equipment etc. to outfit these communities? In the US, what I see in your pictures and on the website this would cost several million dollars. Who had this much money to fund all that has been done in such a short amount of time?

Somewhere on the website I read that the community members surrendered all their earthly possessions to the founder of the organization (I think). I doubt seriously if you and the others in your community had very much in any type of fashion and especially not monetary.

So who contributed all this money to build these communities? You and the others supplied large amounts of sweat equity . . . . who supplied the cash?

I think whoever that is wants their money back . . . . .

I know that I really make people on the forum angry because I have thrown cold water on other ‘community projects’ that have been posted on Avalon . . . one being: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ive-in-Ecuador

I feel strongly that if we are to create truly NEW way of living that are self sustaining, abundant, equal for all, spiritual and all the other we have discussed over the years on this forum, then it truly needs to be NEW and cutting edge and against all other parameters that are so deeply engrained . . . . the main one is money and the huge gulf between those who have and those who have not.

So Jena . . . look down the road of who has the money, where the money came from, where all that money went and exactly who is going to be out in the cold upcoming winter in 10 days . . . just you and the other community family and do you get back what you gave when you entered the community life and/or compensated for all the years of work you and the others have done?

[sheme]

I was only thinking today that China's roll in the New World order, was ,after all the recent disclosures about clandestine eugenics and population control happening in the rest of the world fairly outstandingly honest - at least the Chinese authorities were up front and let the people know what the plan was - one child for every couple. I am sure if the authorities know what is happening they would assist you.

Doesn't China have a kind of magistrate that travels around sorting out peoples disputes? We had a TV program or 2 here in the UK which showed this service at work, it seemed fair, I was impressed.

I hope corruption and simple minded greedy people fail in their 'take all agenda'. May the Chinese Dragon rise up and stop corruption in it's tracks.

Do not fear or be sad -for your gardens will go where you go, the illusion of Heavenly garden will leave when your community leaves. The usurpers will inherit nothing but the weeds of envy and greed. Peace to you all.

I believe communities like yours are the way forward.

[Milneman]

Posted by mariposafe (here)
You need to be careful, there are obviously forces at work here that don't want your community to flourish. As a foreigner in China, I'm VERY well treated; in nearly 6 years, I have NEVER witnessed anything untoward, and am only aware of the unpleasantness that goes on here via some friends. I don't know the fullness of your situation, and can only suggest that if your occupation of the land is 100% legal, and if your community leader hasn't done anything to antagonize a local official, then I'd like to believe the police should help you. It seems that the people attacking you are "local" people, but from the photos, they do not look like local peasant farmers to me ! If they are, they don't resemble any of the countryside dwellers I encounter in Sichuan. Is there a possibility they are government people mascarading as locals ??

I don't know. But it certainly seems as though there is much more going on here than a simple dispute with a village community. Does your community leader have any influential contacts ? Have you taken legal advice ?

Good luck, 小心啊！

Mari, what's the general feeling among the people about the situation in Tibet? Is it the same as the government policy we hear about here on this side of the Pacific? Like...do they recognize the government elected Panchen Lama, do they know about the imprisonment of the actual Panchen Lama? What about the Dalai Lama? You've got a really unique perspective on this and I would GREATLY appreciate your observations on this!!!

[blufire]

Posted by sheme (here)
I was only thinking today that China's roll in the New World order, was ,after all the recent disclosures about clandestine eugenics and population control happening in the rest of the world fairly outstandingly honest - at least the Chinese authorities were up front and let the people know what the plan was - one child for every couple. I am sure if the authorities know what is happening they would assist you.

Doesn't China have a kind of magistrate that travels around sorting out peoples disputes? We had a TV program or 2 here in the UK which showed this service at work, it seemed fair, I was impressed.

I hope corruption and simple minded greedy people fail in their 'take all agenda'. May the Chinese Dragon rise up and stop corruption in it's tracks.

Do not fear or be sad -for your gardens will go where you go, the illusion of Heavenly garden will leave when your community leaves. The usurpers will inherit nothing but the weeds of envy and greed. Peace to you all.

I believe communities like yours are the way forward.

I do not agree sheme that this community is an example of the way forward.

I have way too many red flags and unanswered questions about this community and its founders and supporters.

I will have to say the pictures of the upset children made me very angry. These children are obviously being used to promote an emotional reaction. They were lined up and pictures taken while they were scared and upset. These children should have been nowhere near this type of highly charged dangerous adult situation. Period.

[sheme]

In my reality your truth blufire is not important to me, your path may be different to mine, you stand with a different perspective and you must see what is in your personal view and what turns you on.

The service to eachother community is where the future points from my perspective, mutual support, physical help, shared child guidance and care is the way forward.

We are all responsible for the future and we must all follow our personal intuitive perception ,with encouragement from like minded souls. We are each other, children are the responsibility of us all.

These children are some of the luckiest children in the world in my opinion.