Military source: some humans are being voluntarily relocated to a Pandora-like planet round Alpha Centauri

[wegge]

Are they considering applications?

[Patient]

Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Patient (here)
Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

[Patient]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Patient (here)
Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Which would be a good plan. Imagine a world with all of the flora and fauna untouched by human's interference.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Patient (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Patient (here)
Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Which would be a good plan. Imagine a world with all of the flora and fauna untouched by human's interference.

Well, see this thread:

• THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

... in which I present the notion of an ET-supported plan, agreed by the human global controllers, to completely remove mankind from Earth to turn it into a kind of interplanetary nature reserve.

[Patient]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Patient (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Patient (here)
Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Which would be a good plan. Imagine a world with all of the flora and fauna untouched by human's interference.

Well, see this thread:

• THE ULTIMATE PLAN (a fairy story... maybe)

... in which I present the notion of an ET-supported plan, agreed by the human global controllers, to completely remove mankind from Earth to turn it into a kind of interplanetary nature reserve.

One of my ancestors was apparently a French Voyageur who canoed the waters helping to map Canada. While I grew up I would take every opportunity I could to go canoeing. If you have never been on a fresh water lake at dawn or dusk when the water is like glass, then there is a moment in life that you have missed.

For anyone that is presented with this opportunity, I strongly suggest experiencing it.

And if anyone is listening, I would love the chance to map out some new fresh waters - just saying.

[Merkaba360]

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Posted by Patient (here)
Well, if they are seeding people here to make these indigo children (of which I do somewhat believe) why not make this "garden" a better place rather than take pieces away to create another mess?

Well, it might be a safety net plan, like backing up the metaphorical "hard drive" of the human genome. Just in case the original is lost, corrupted or destroyed.

Not only that, but it would mean that humans (ex: Elon) are not the only ones making our strain of humans a multiplanetary civilization. Why wait for Elon if the ETs can already do it. If ET's engineered us on this planet originally, then this is the original stock. For the next planet, they could have different intentions for us. They can select more developed humans from earth - being very choosey for which type of humans seed the next planet. Who knows what kind of criteria they would want for that.

It would be cool if they brought many spiritual people to seed a new planet that is at a slightly higher frequency and only appropriate for spiritual types. Although, I wonder if the vast majority of spiritual types would refuse to leave earth (on a soul level) because of their desire to help earth advance and for the great opportunity for their own growth by staying here.

Wish they could take all the most corrupt amongst us and bring them to a new planet, and name that planet New Australia. lol

[Mark]

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Wish they could take all the most corrupt amongst us and bring them to a new planet, and name that planet New Australia. lol

Read this when I was a kid. I remember it was a pretty adventurous and memorable envisioning.

The planet "Old North Australia", or simply "Norstrilia", is the only planet in the Instrumentality of Mankind fictional universe which produces the precious immortality drug "stroon", which indefinitely delays aging in humans. Stroon (or the "Santaclara drug") is harvested from the huge diseased sheep the Norstrilians raise, and has resisted all attempts at artificial synthesis. Since the Norstrilians have a monopoly, stroon sells for astronomical prices, and Norstrilia is fabulously wealthy (wealthier than any other single planet). To safeguard their archaic way of life (resembling Australian ranchers with a British cultural inheritance), the Norstrilians are forced to develop the most advanced defense force and weaponry known (for example, Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons); to protect their culture, imports from other worlds are taxed at rates exceeding 20 million percent, reducing what would be a staggering fortune on another planet to humble penury on Norstrilia itself. They are also forced to cull their young in order to prevent overpopulation (only those who pass the test of the "Garden of Death" are allowed to enter adulthood).

[Denise/Dizi]

I once read something. It was something like the Agenda 21 papers or something very similar. Essentially the papers described taking humanity, and placing them into cities that are self supporting, and leaving the Earth to nature. And then, those that want to escape their cities and go enjoy the nature and beauty of the planet absolutely could, without us sprawling into all the nooks and crannies of the world, and making it all colonized.

I saw many benefits for doing this, but I also saw many "Downsides" to these plans. If anyone else ever came across those pages and remembers what they were, it would be an interesting read for me now, years later...

As far as humans being taken to other planets, I believe this has been happening all along, and it may be how we ended up here to begin with... Just a thought...

[Myristyl]

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
I once read something. It was something like the Agenda 21 papers or something very similar. Essentially the papers described taking humanity, and placing them into cities that are self supporting, and leaving the Earth to nature. And then, those that want to escape their cities and go enjoy the nature and beauty of the planet absolutely could, without us sprawling into all the nooks and crannies of the world, and making it all colonized.

I have been thinking the same thing. Many years ago, I must have been about fourteen, I read a couple of books by Arthur C Clarke that have always stayed with me. I haven't read them since so I can't say how I would view them now but at the time they made quite an impression.

One was The City and the Stars and the other was The Lion of Comarre

From my memory of these stories they both demonstrate Clarke's uncanny ability to predict the future. Both deal with the fate of humanity as technology is taken to its ultimate conclusion. I won't give anything away but when I think of these stories I think of Agenda 21, the fourth industrial revolution and the trans humanism that may be our unfortunate future. Of course, my memory of the works may be a little faded but this is how I think of them now.

Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

EDIT:
The Lion of Comarre begins at approx 6:15:40 in the above link.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Myristyl (here)
Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

[Denise/Dizi]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Myristyl (here)
Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??

[Bill Ryan]

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Posted by Myristyl (here)
Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??

Well, we'd have talked to him about the backstory of 2001: A Space Odyssey (and its sequels), if he knew who or what was really on the moon (and elsewhere in the solar system), whether we might have classified bases there now, what might be special about Europa (remember the movie quote at the end of 2010: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE), about his classic novel Childhood's End, and if he knew anything about the Secret Space Program, Stanley Kubrick, and the Apollo Missions.

But we'd also have done a lot of careful listening, knowing that as he was well aware he was nearing the end of his long life, me might have wanted to share a few things he'd never previously talked about.

A fictional interview with him might be a very interesting project.

[Denise/Dizi]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Myristyl (here)
Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??

Well, we'd have talked to him about the backstory of 2001: A Space Odyssey (and its sequels), if he knew who or what was really on the moon (and elsewhere in the solar system), whether we might have classified bases there now, what might be special about Europa (remember the movie quote at the end of 2010: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE), about his classic novel Childhood's End, and if he knew anything about the Secret Space Program, Stanley Kubrick, and the Apollo Missions.

But we'd also have done a lot of careful listening, knowing that as he was well aware he was nearing the end of his long life, me might have wanted to share a few things he'd never previously talked about.

A fictional interview with him might be a very interesting project.

I have to say the "listening" part of your reply was the most telling... Because out of all of the interviews I have watched throughout the years, you seem to be one of the very few who know HOW to listen effectively, and not lead the interview, but just get actual questions answered.. Sometimes remaining quiet demands from those being interviewed, more details, and the devil is always in the details. This is why I have much respect for you when it comes to you doing interviews... You actually don't care about fame, but moreso the true answers that people are willing to give.

Someday I must get to where you are, and just chat with you...

[Mike]

Bump! Bump!

I don't quite know what to make of the testimony, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If nothing else it was great fun to read. At the risk of using a very overused phrase, it feels true...or at the very least, true'ish

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mike (here)
Bump! Bump!

I don't quite know what to make of the testimony, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If nothing else it was great fun to read. At the risk of using a very overused phrase, it feels true...or at the very least, true'ish

It's always felt true to me — and it's surely exactly what some ETs might do (just as we do with endangered rhinos in Africa) to ensure human survival should the worst happen in their natural habitat.

And it's an interesting thought experiment. Would you sign up for a one-way ticket? I actually think I would.

[Mike]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Bump! Bump!

I don't quite know what to make of the testimony, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me. If nothing else it was great fun to read. At the risk of using a very overused phrase, it feels true...or at the very least, true'ish

It's always felt true to me — and it's surely exactly what some ETs might do (just as we do with endangered rhinos in Africa) to ensure human survival should the worst happen in their natural habitat.

And it's an interesting thought experiment. Would you sign up for a one-way ticket? I actually think I would.

I think you would too!

I thought about it earnestly for a few mins. I don't think I could do it. I require various supplements just to stay alive, so on a practical level it would be unrealistic. I think if I were healthier and my parents were dead, I might just do it. Very hard to say.

[Bill Ryan]

[Vicus]

yeah... good luck with that...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iELeY7RNDKI

[mountain_jim]

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Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Myristyl (here)
Bill, didn't you arrange an interview with Clarke or am I mistaken? That would have been fascinating.

Yes, and very sadly we just missed him. We had an appointment to travel to Sri Lanka to interview him.... and then he passed away before we could get there. Our Project Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (real name Arthur Neumann) had told us "Clarke knew everything".

What a terribly sad thing to not be able to speak to him before he passed. I bet you were looking forward to that! I will have to look him up...
What would you have asked him Bill??

Well, we'd have talked to him about the backstory of 2001: A Space Odyssey (and its sequels), if he knew who or what was really on the moon (and elsewhere in the solar system), whether we might have classified bases there now, what might be special about Europa (remember the movie quote at the end of 2010: ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE), about his classic novel Childhood's End, and if he knew anything about the Secret Space Program, Stanley Kubrick, and the Apollo Missions.

But we'd also have done a lot of careful listening, knowing that as he was well aware he was nearing the end of his long life, me might have wanted to share a few things he'd never previously talked about.

A fictional interview with him might be a very interesting project.

Turns out I am reading Clarke's Rama Trilogy now - (books 2 and 3 co-written by Gentry Lee), now in middle of 3rd book: Garden of Rama where an ET Intelligence has a human family heading back to a Mars colony with intentions to convince 2000 Earth colonists to inhabit an earth-like habitat on board the Rama ship for purposes unknown to me at this point in the story.

I originally read the Rendezvous with Rama 4+ decades ago but picked this back up now due to my favorite current director being signed up to do a movie

Everything We Know About the Rendezvous With Rama Movie

Denis Villeneuve will direct this long-awaited Arthur C. Clarke adaptation.

By Grace Felder | Published Mar 17, 2022

On December 15, 2021, The Hollywood Reporter broke the news that Denis Villeneuve is set to direct a movie adaption of 2001: A Space Odyssey author Arthur C. Clarke’s classic novel Rendezvous With Rama.

This is big news for all sci-fi fans, so what do we know about this exciting adaptation so far?

This big screen version of Clarke’s novel has been a long time coming. For over two decades, the rights to the book have been owned by Revelations Entertainment, Morgan Freeman and Lori McCreary’s production company.

Villeneuve’s film will be produced by Alcon Entertainment, which also produced his previous films Prisoners and Blade Runner: 2049. Freeman and McCreary will also produce through Revelations.

In a statement, Freeman and McCreary praised Villeneuve: “Denis’ vision for Rama felt completely aligned with Arthur’s wishes, so we are confident that teaming with our producing partners Andrew and Broderick at Alcon is the right next step in this over-20-year odyssey!”

Villeneuve is not new to the sci-fi movie scene in the least. His 2021 adaptation of Frank Herbert’s Dune was a box office success and has been nominated for 10 Oscars. He also received critical acclaim for 2016’s Arrival and 2017’s Blade Runner: 2049.