Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Mandala]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
N.Korea?

Or Iran?????

Or China ?

Chinese Martyrs' Brigade group claims responsibility for flight MH370

Or Japan !?

The plane was brought down by a localized EMP, emitted from an Aichi M6A, launched from an I400 Japanese sub

Or Mossad !!?

Did the Mossad Blow Up the Malaysian Airlines Jet?

Or Passenger 84 !!!?

Who is Passenger 84 on MH370 ?

Or the military !!!!?

Was Flight MH370 Shot Down By the Military — Accidentally or Otherwise?

Or another dimension !!!!!?

Malaysia Airlines plane went to another Dimension?

Or Aliens !!!!!!?

Did Aliens Abduct Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?

or anything else ??

Wow, there's nothing like giving us a menu of possible choices. Talking about covering all bases and then some.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Or it could of been hijacked in such a way that the hijackers have demanded that the plane has gone missing (mystery until they have what they are asking for) Once the location of the plane is in the media then they'll kill everyone.

Because many of the family members have apparently called people that were on board the plane and the phones rang... no answer but they rang.
All the families are being held in a very secure hotel thats being protected as if the reptilian queen of the gods was inside.

My initial thought was that it was a natural accident and before they released information, many opportunities were thought of and again they could take advantage of an event that was kind of gifted to them.

Anyway..

[Violet]

The ringing phones have just been dismissed by Dutch radio as clear nonsense and not useful whatsoever. The dismissal in itself must have not lasted for longer than half a minute in a broader debate about the crash.

Playing advocate of the devil: why are ringing phones nonsense as a clue from a technical perspective, that is.

[Nick Matkin]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
You have to figure that likely every one had a cell phone on them too and no one managed to make one call to anybody stating that something was wrong....this whole thing just seems way to bizarre.

A cell phone will only work when within a cell! The oceans aren't covered unless you have a sat phone. You don't have to go far off the coast to lose coverage.

Granted that line of site coverage may be tens of miles, even vertically, but it's still quite possible that the plane is well outside any signal areas. And don't forget that the cell phone signal is restricted to only getting out through the windows and any other non-metallic areas, so will be significantly reduced in strength.

If the crew didn't have time to send a distress signal, I doubt any of the passengers would have either.

And before we indulge in too much speculation as to why the disappearance is strange, and why this or that hasn't happened, how many of us actually have any training in aviation, know anything about crash investigations or have genuine inside knowledge about what is being investigated here? I don't, and I doubt many others do either. If you do have professional knowledge, then please speak up and tell us your opinion.

This dreadful incident may have been due to some whistle blower being silenced and the rest are 'collateral damage', criminal or terrorist activity, or even an impressive alien abduction. But it may just be a tragic accident.

Nick

[SilentFeathers]

This is weird!

BTW: I'm just posting some thoughts and some things I'm finding, troubleshooting so to speak. I'm no expert nor am I a genius detective.

As for these phones, I am not absolutely sure this isn't really happening.....

Vanished Malaysia Airlines flight leaves relatives with anger and phantom phone calls

One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.

A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.

Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers’ numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up.

The phantom calls triggered a new level of desperation and anger for some. They tried repeatedly Sunday and Monday to ask airline and police officials about the ringing calls and QQ accounts. However unlikely it was, many thought the phones might still be on, and that if authorities just tracked them down, their relatives might be found. But they were largely ignored.

According to Singapore’s Strait Times, a Malaysia Airlines official, Hugh Dunleavy, told families that the company had tried calling mobile phones of crew members as well and that they had also rang. The company turned over those phone numbers to Chinese authorities.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...d06_story.html

[Nick Matkin]

The voice mail of a mobile phone is not on the phone, but on the phone company's server. If you put your phone in a metal box, drive into a no-coverage area or throw your phone on the fire, and I phone you, I won't get an unobtainable signal, it'll ring and then go to voice mail or just say be something like 'the person you have called is unavailable'. Is that not what's happening in these reports?

That's what happens in the UK, and I doubt our system is different to that of any other country.

However, I am unfamiliar with the workings of the QQ messenger service, so don't know if if that is behaving normally under these circumstances or not.

[Cidersomerset]

Just saw this on Davids site .........


Six important facts you’re not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Tuesday 11th March 2014 at 06:55 By David Icke





‘There are some astonishing things you’re not being told about Malaysia Airlines
Flight 370, the flight that simply vanished over the Gulf of Thailand with 239 people
on board.

The mystery of the flight’s sudden and complete disappearance has even the
world’s top air safety authorities baffled. “Air-safety and antiterror authorities on
two continents appeared equally stumped about what direction the probe should
take,” reports the Wall Street Journal.

WSJ goes on to report:

“For now, it seems simply inexplicable,” said Paul Hayes, director of safety and
insurance at Ascend Worldwide, a British advisory and aviation data firm.

While investigators are baffled, the mainstream media isn’t telling you the whole
story, either. So I’ve assembled this collection of facts that should raise serious
questions in the minds of anyone following this situation.’





• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders
that can survive any on-board explosion

No explosion from the plane itself can destroy the black box recorders. They are
bomb-proof structures that hold digital recordings of cockpit conversations as well
as detailed flight data and control surface data.

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after
falling into the ocean

Yet the black box from this particular incident hasn't been detected at all. That's
why investigators are having such trouble finding it. Normally, they only need
to "home in" on the black box transmitter signal. But in this case, the absence of a
signal means the black box itself -- an object designed to survive powerful
explosions -- has either vanished, malfunctioned or been obliterated by some
powerful force beyond the worst fears of aircraft design engineers.

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

In past cases of aircraft destroyed over the ocean or crashing into the ocean, debris
has always been spotted floating on the surface of the water. That's because -- as
you may recall from the safety briefing you've learned to ignore -- "your seat
cushion may be used as a flotation device."

Yes, seat cushions float. So do many other non-metallic aircraft parts. If Flight 370
was brought down by an explosion of some sort, there would be massive debris
floating on the ocean, and that debris would not be difficult to spot. The fact that it
has not yet been spotted only adds to the mystery of how Flight 370 appears to
have literally vanished from the face of the Earth.

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature

One theory currently circulating on the 'net is that a missile brought down the
airliner, somehow blasting the aircraft and all its contents to "smithereens" -- which
means very tiny pieces of matter that are undetectable as debris.

The problem with this theory is that there exists no known ground-to-air or air-to-
air missile with such a capability. All known missiles generate tremendous debris
when they explode on target. Both the missile and the debris produce very large
radar signatures which would be easily visible to both military vessels and air traffic
authorities.

• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

Air traffic controllers have full details of almost exactly where the aircraft was at the
moment it vanished. They know the location, elevation and airspeed -- three pieces
of information which can readily be used to estimate the likely location of debris.

Remember: air safety investigators are not stupid people. They've seen mid-air
explosions before, and they know how debris falls. There is already a substantial
data set of airline explosions and crashes from which investigators can make well-
educated guesses about where debris should be found. And yet, even armed with
all this experience and information, they remain totally baffled on what happened to Flight 370.

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Hijacking an airplane does not cause it to simply vanish from radar. Even if
transponders are disabled on the aircraft, ground radar can still readily track the
location of the aircraft using so-called "passive" radar (classic ground-based radar
systems that emit a signal and monitor its reflection).

Thus, the theory that the flight was hijacked makes no sense whatsoever. When
planes are hijacked, they do not magically vanish from radar.


Conclusion: Flight 370 did not explode; it vanished
The inescapable conclusion from what we know so far is that Flight 370 seems to
have utterly and inexplicably vanished. It clearly was not hijacked (unless there is a
cover-up regarding the radar data), and we can all be increasingly confident by the
hour that this was not a mid-air explosion (unless debris suddenly turns up that
they've somehow missed all along).

The inescapable conclusion is that Flight 370 simply vanished in some way that we
do not yet understand. This is what is currently giving rise to all sorts of bizarre-
sounding theories across the 'net, including discussions of possible secret military
weapons tests, Bermuda Triangle-like ripples in the fabric of spacetime, and even
conjecture that non-terrestrial (alien) technology may have teleported the plane away.

Personally, I'm not buying any of that without a lot more evidence. The most likely
explanation so far is that the debris simply hasn't been found yet because it fell
over an area which is somehow outside the search zone. But as each day goes by,
even this explanation becomes harder and harder to swallow.

The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370;
but rather that we won't. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new,
mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes
out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.

If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever controls it already has
the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of
unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft
suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...#ixzz2vewHeDyB

http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...vanished.html#

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[syrwong]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
The voice mail of a mobile phone is not on the phone, but on the phone company's server. If you put your phone in a metal box, drive into a no-coverage area or throw your phone on the fire, and I phone you, I won't get an unobtainable signal, it'll ring and then go to voice mail or just say be something like 'the person you have called is unavailable'. Is that not what's happening in these reports?

That's what happens in the UK, and I doubt our system is different to that of any other country.

However, I am unfamiliar with the workings of the QQ messenger service, so don't know if if that is behaving normally under these circumstances or not.

In China and Hong Kong, if your phone is not active, say turned off, there is no ringing tone and an immediate voice notice that the phone cannot be reached. The QQ messenger shows offline quite immediately if the mobile device is off internet connection.

I believe this very weird thing did happen, more than any "report" or "unconfirmed report" from the authorities as there seems to be reports and denial of reports one after another.

[Operator]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
.....
The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370;
but rather that we won't. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new,
mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes
out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.

If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever controls it already has
the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of
unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft
suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...#ixzz2vewHeDyB

http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...vanished.html#

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

I've seen the above already posted ... (not sure if it was this thread)

However see my previous post here on the last part.

If I remember correctly it was Mehran Keshe who explained that Iran was now able to take some
missiles in mid flight and 'return them to sender' with this technology.

[yuhui]

Posted by syrwong (here)
The QQ messenger shows offline quite immediately if the mobile device is off internet connection.

Still, there is possibility that the QQ messenger login in automatically on other computer/ipad/ipod....with passwords saved from previous login in. I mean, if someone happens to open passengers's computers at their workplace or home or somewhere, QQ will possibly indicate online....it's quite possible.


Also, according to "South China Morning Post" (on Chinese weibo: http://weibo.com/2647349703/AA9Ww3j1Y)

"The sister of one of the Chinese passengers claimed to have gotten a ringing tone when she called his phone, while a man calling his missing brother said the phone had rung three times before appearing to hang up."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-...#ixzz2vf80zmNm


This can also be caused by forwarding system in Singapore or...when someone's phone is stolen.

[Roisin]

I had an inner vision during my morning meditation session today. But just before I started that session, I asked what happened to that plane. Well, I got lucky because while I was meditating, an inner eye scene popped in where I was sitting in a plane where the pilots were up front in an open cockpit so I could see what they were seeing out of the planes' windshield.
What I saw:
So I'm sitting in this plane as we are approaching a very tall brick wall. It was so tall, I couldn't even see the top of it and it seemed to go on forever. Well, when we were face to face with that brick wall, the plane then shifted into flying in a vertical direction, like a helicopter, up the that wall so fast, it made me nauseous. Then the plane stopped flying UP and the wall opened up showing a tunnel where the plane then flew into it ... and into darkness. That was the end of that vision.

Interpretation:
They say that when a plane crashes into the water, it's like hitting a brick wall. So that tall brick wall in that vision could have been the ocean and that airliner could have dived into it.

I'm surprised I saw that because prior to starting that meditation, it made more sense to me that the plane broke up in mid-air up 35,000 ft and that seems to be the prevailing sentiment of most aviation experts who have commented in the news about the demise of the plane.

But I saw otherwise because in my vision, it flew into a tunnel in that brick wall.

A detail I left out.
That tall brick wall first impressed me as a very, very tall building; like a sky scraper because it had windows too. But once we were face to face with that building, I didn't notice that we were passing any windows as we flew up that wall and then into that tunnel.

PS -- Just read over David Icke's explanation of what may have happened to that plane. He says it just vanished.

Of course, my own interpretation of what I saw in that inner vision of mine could be incorrect. Maybe the tunnel the plane flew into was something else and not the ocean. Maybe the brick wall only looked like it was made of brick but it was actually something else. If Icke's view is correct, then that would be something like a laser beam. But then again, maybe it flew into a spaceship. Who knows?

[aviators]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
.....
The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370;
but rather that we won't. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new,
mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes
out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.

If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever controls it already has
the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of
unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft
suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...#ixzz2vewHeDyB

http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...vanished.html#

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

I've seen the above already posted ... (not sure if it was this thread)

However see my previous post here on the last part.

If I remember correctly it was Mehran Keshe who explained that Iran was now able to take some
missiles in mid flight and 'return them to sender' with this technology.

My first question would be: can radar track this plane over the entire route?
Some parts of Ocean are unreachable by land based radar.

Many believe there were no planes during 911 . I mean the crashes were all faked.
So I have raised this question before. What really happened to the planes that day??
This has always bothered me.

[Roisin]

Isn't there another transformer on these airliner's that send information not to the control tower but to the airlines maintenance office. The information sends constant updates on the status of the plane's mechanical status. It's separate from the communication/GPS transformer. Read this somewhere in the news concerning this plane. Whatever the case may be, it appears that that transformer must have been shut off too. Anyone know about this?

[Operator]

Posted by aviators (here)

My first question would be: can radar track this plane over the entire route?
Some parts of Ocean are unreachable by land based radar.

Many believe there were no planes during 911 . I mean the crashes were all faked.
So I have raised this question before. What really happened to the planes that day??
This has always bothered me.

As far as I understand it the plane was on radar at the moment it vanished (so not out of radar's reach).
Whatever happened they didn't see it descent either, be it controlled or uncontrolled.

[aviators]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by aviators (here)

My first question would be: can radar track this plane over the entire route?
Some parts of Ocean are unreachable by land based radar.

Many believe there were no planes during 911 . I mean the crashes were all faked.
So I have raised this question before. What really happened to the planes that day??
This has always bothered me.

As far as I understand it the plane was on radar at the moment it vanished (so not out of radar's reach).
Whatever happened they didn't see it descent either, be it controlled or uncontrolled.

Yeah I have read somewhere it made a few turns. Assuming this air space has good radar coverage you would be able to track its moves at 35 000 feet.

[Agape]

http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/11/l...acca--reports/

Malaysia’s military believes it tracked the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner by radar over the Strait of Malacca, far from where it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country’s east coast, a military source told Reuters news agency. The Strait of Malacca, one of the world’s busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia’s west coast.

The airline said on Saturday that the flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew last had contact off the east coast Malaysian town of Kota Bharu.
“It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait,” the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, told reporters.

The Malaysian military believes an airliner missing for almost four days with 239 people on board flew for more than an hour after vanishing from air traffic control screens, changing course and travelling west over the Strait of Malacca, a senior military source said.

Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.

At the time it was roughly midway between Malaysia’s east coast town of Kota Bharu and the southern tip of Vietnam, flying at 35,000 ft (10,670 metres).

“It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait,” the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.

A non-military source familiar with the investigations said the report was being checked.

“This report is being investigated by the DCA (Department of Civil Aviation) and the search and rescue team,” the source said. “There are a lot of such reports.”

If the reports from the military are verified, it would mean the plane was able to maintain a cruising altitude and flew for about 500 km (350 miles) with its transponder and other tracking systems apparently switched off.

Malaysia has extended the massive search operation for the plane to the Malacca Strait after initially focusing on the South China Sea.

Earlier, Interpol assumed the terrorist link was fading away after the international police inquiry on two suspect passengers travelling with fake passports. According Interpol the two passengers of Iranian nationality could be related more with an human trafficking situation that with terrorism.




Smoke and mirrors

[aviators]

(Operator) If I remember correctly it was Mehran Keshe who explained that Iran was now able to take some
missiles in mid flight and 'return them to sender' with this technology.

Yes, and don't forget Iran supposedly landed one of our (US) drones.

[syrwong]

Posted by aviators (here)

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
.....
The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370;
but rather that we won't. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new,
mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes
out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.

If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever controls it already has
the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of
unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft
suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...#ixzz2vewHeDyB

http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Ma...vanished.html#

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

I've seen the above already posted ... (not sure if it was this thread)

However see my previous post here on the last part.

If I remember correctly it was Mehran Keshe who explained that Iran was now able to take some
missiles in mid flight and 'return them to sender' with this technology.

My first question would be: can radar track this plane over the entire route?
Some parts of Ocean are unreachable by land based radar.

Many believe there were no planes during 911 . I mean the crashes were all faked.
So I have raised this question before. What really happened to the planes that day??
This has always bothered me.

There may be two technologies in frequent use for control and blackmailing.
No.1 HAARP.
No2. Snatch a plane out of the blue sky technology.

[Operator]

Posted by syrwong (here)
There may be two technologies in frequent use for control and blackmailing.
No.1 HAARP.
No2. Snatch a plane out of the blue sky technology.

Let's assume for a minute that 2 really happened ...
You would expect that if a country does like to give such a signal they would take a military plane
or something of that sort. But that would be covered up immediately ... now they have full attention.
This can NEVER happen unnoticed with an airliner ... when this technology is in the right hands it is
a very effective defense mechanism. So effective that future wars were virtually impossible.
I think this is what Mehran Keshe meant when he said he would share/release technology this year that
would end all wars (Maybe a bit too positive/naive but still !)

[Violet]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
You have to figure that likely every one had a cell phone on them too and no one managed to make one call to anybody stating that something was wrong....this whole thing just seems way to bizarre.

A cell phone will only work when within a cell! The oceans aren't covered unless you have a sat phone. You don't have to go far off the coast to lose coverage.

Granted that line of site coverage may be tens of miles, even vertically, but it's still quite possible that the plane is well outside any signal areas. And don't forget that the cell phone signal is restricted to only getting out through the windows and any other non-metallic areas, so will be significantly reduced in strength.

If the crew didn't have time to send a distress signal, I doubt any of the passengers would have either.

And before we indulge in too much speculation as to why the disappearance is strange, and why this or that hasn't happened, how many of us actually have any training in aviation, know anything about crash investigations or have genuine inside knowledge about what is being investigated here? I don't, and I doubt many others do either. If you do have professional knowledge, then please speak up and tell us your opinion.

This dreadful incident may have been due to some whistle blower being silenced and the rest are 'collateral damage', criminal or terrorist activity, or even an impressive alien abduction. But it may just be a tragic accident.

Nick

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...tact-lost.html