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    There are NO photographs of corpses of Nazi gassing victims.

    Oh puhleeze. The Nazis did everything they could to keep the gassing of their victims secret so why would they take photos?

    They even concocted a convoluted language full of code words to hide their actions (read "The Language of the Third Reich" by Klemperer)
    - even they weren’t sick enough to actually record the gassings they carried out on film.

    Actually, why have those you believe are behind what you think is the lies about the Holocaust not forged photographs that they could then claim to be the ultimate proof
    of the gas chambers? You’re always proclaiming evidence has been faked - photos of mass murder by gassing would be the obvious thing to fake.
    And yet there are no such photos. What a missed opportunity


    If Friedrich Berg was better informed, he would have known that:

    1) the bodies were all destroyed immediately upon removal from the gas chambers, incinerated either in crematoria or open air pits.

    2) The SS was explicitly forbidden to take photographs of executions and hangings, or record them in their personal writings: the regime was
    terrified that word of their actions would get out.

    SS Lieutenant General Kruger signed a decree on 14th August 1940 stating that “any participation of spectators and photographing are forbidden

    General Otto Woehler Chief of Staff of the 11th Army and co-ordinator of Einsatzgruppe D threatened severe punishment for anyone who disobeyed:
    No photographs will be made of such abominable excesses and no report of them will be given in letters home. The production and distribution of such photographs
    and reports on such incidents are looked upon as undermining the decency and discipline in the armed forces and will be severely punished. All existing photographs
    and reports will be confiscated along with the negatives
    ”.

    In 1942, Reinhard Heydrich, Head of the Gestapo and SS, repeated this, ordering that “the taking of pictures are mass executions and requested the commanders
    of the Order Police hunt for pictures, films or plates circulating among their own men
    .

    Some amateur photographers (when I have the time, I'll post the Sonderkommando photos) were sufficiently brave to ignore these rules, but to have taken photographs in such
    a public location as the gas chambers would have been unthinkable.




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    Pictures of countless healthy prisoners in the same camps are generally not shown for reasons that are all too obvious.
    I assume you're going to posted a few of these "countless" pictures?

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    Quote Thousands have testified to that fact. Physical evidence points to that. Documentary evidence proves that.
    That's what you think if you only read and watch stuff from the mainstream. I've seen both the mainstream version and the revisionist version. I would bet the revisionist version reflects reality. The viewers can check out the revisionist info and decide for themselves.
    http://www.flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=12196&start=0
    https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=27
    http://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/
    https://codoh.com/library/categories...-gas-chambers/
    https://lbry.tv/$/search?q=holocaust
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/38-cl.pdf


    You said you were going to analyze the info in post #336.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1385408
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    Some amateur photographers (when I have the time, I'll post the Sonderkommando photos) were sufficiently brave to ignore these rules, but to have taken photographs in such
    a public location as the gas chambers would have been unthinkable.
    Here are the only four photographs in existence (for reasons stated in post 361) that depict the actual process of mass killing perpetrated at the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
    These four photographs are of immense importance because they prove that the unimaginable is imaginable: nobody can deny the existence of these pictures. The photographs are
    only one moment of the “truth”, but they are invaluable, since they are there is regarding the extermination.

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    They were taken (in secret and at great personal risk), by a small group of Sonderkommando (the prisoners who were forced to dispose of the thousands of corpses from the gas
    chambers) using a smuggled camera hidden in a bucket.

    The film was then smuggled out of the camp by the Polish underground by Helena Dantón, who worked in the SS canteen, hidden inside a tube of toothpaste, along with a note dated
    4 September 1944 (it asked that the photographs be sent to "Tell", Teresa Łasocka-Estreicher of the Polish underground in Kraków):

    "Urgent. Send two metal rolls of film for 6x9 as fast as possible. Have possibility of taking photos. Sending you photos of Birkenau showing prisoners sent to gas chambers.
    One photos shows one of the stakes at which bodies were burned when the crematoria could not manage to burn all the bodies. The bodies in the foreground are waiting to be thrown
    into the fire. Another picture shows one of the places in the forest where people undress before 'showering'—as they were told—and then go to the gas-chambers. Send film roll as
    fast as you can. Send the enclosed photos to Tell—we think enlargements of the photos can be sent further."



    The veracity of the four Sonderkommando photos is not in any doubt, so please, Cosmored, don’t give your usual knee-jerk response of “they’re fake”… to do so would just be foolish.
    These are possibly the most studied and analysed photos of that period of history, and many expert sources from around the world (some detailed below) have verified them:

    “Images in Spite of All” - Georges Didi Huberman
    https://hungarianskeptics.blogspot.com
    The Sonderkommando Photographs - Dan Stone https://www.jstor.org/stable/4467613?seq=1
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...-open-air.html
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...d-by.html#more
    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-...ssac0422.shtml
    https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/g...rkommando.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonder...do_photographs
    “Inside the Gas Chambers: Eight Months in the Sonderkommando of Auschwitz” - Shlomo Venezia

    aerial view verifying the location of open burning pits
    https://bokertov.typepad.com/.a/6a00...0694970b-800wi

    The Camera As Weapon: Sibyl Milton
    https://www.museumoftolerance.com/ed...chapter-3.html
    “In the Image of Auschwitz” - Bruno Chaouat
    “Photographs, Symbolic Images and the Holocaust” - Professor Judith Keilbach.
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    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    Quote Thousands have testified to that fact. Physical evidence points to that. Documentary evidence proves that.
    That's what you think if you only read and watch stuff from the mainstream.
    That statement makes no sense. Documentary and physical evidence evidence are neutral. They exist. What does evidence have to do with “the mainstream”?


    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    I've seen both the mainstream version and the revisionist version.
    That’s good to hear.

    I’m sure the readers would be interested to hear your analysis of, for example, The Van Pelt Report, which is a key piece of “mainstream” research prepared
    for the Irving trial by Professor Robert Jan van Pelt.

    How about Professor Nick Terry and his associates who run the anti-denial Holocaust Controversies blog? That would be particularly relevant to you, with
    your interest in Leuchter and Rudolf and Faurisson. Nick’s purpose is to throw light on all the lies, which he does in painstaking detail.
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com
    He’s done a handy “Twitter Denial” page, debunking the memes that circulate on social media:
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...t-popular.html
    And another on YouTube denial movement:
    https://holocaustcontroversies.blogs...be-denial.html


    Or the work of Dr Richard J Green, one of the team at the Holocaust History Project, which is dedicated to fighting Holocaust denial, and where they have
    analysed the claims of many deniers including Irving, Mattogno and Porter, as well as CODOH and IHR?
    It’s a brilliant resource - they say “We have followed them (the deniers) into every sphere of human knowledge they have essayed to understand, from
    chemistry to cremation to photography to textual analysis, and have dissected their fallacious arguments with hard facts and logical reasoning.
    And we have answered questions posed by well-meaning, but confused, readers of their propaganda.”

    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-...eam/index.html

    You must have come across their work - what conclusions did you come to?

    And I suppose you’ve read Raul Hilberg, Primo Levi, Carol Rittner, Martin Gilbet, Doris Bergen … any thoughts about their research?
    Or Deborah Lipstadt’s scholarly answers to a number of common claims made by Holocaust deniers?
    https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/

    The knowledge and expertise of such “mainstream” historians such as these is phenomenal: be assured that every single lie, misrepresentation and fiction
    ever invented by the deniers has been analysed and debunked by them.


    You know, the way you lump all “mainstream” historians together is completely false and shows a massive misunderstanding. History is a subject of academic
    inquiry in which there are often very divergent opinions - the freedom to have and express different ideas lies at the heart of academic freedom and universities
    in the UK are independent bodies.

    Whatever is said by a scholar of history can really only be measured by one criteria – is it anchored in the documentation?
    And is the interpretation being offered as unbiased as possible?

    The denialist version fails miserably on both counts.


    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    I would bet the revisionist version reflects reality.
    You’d bet? I hope you’re not a gambling man/woman … just a quick glance at one of the sites you’ve pushed here
    (https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/) reveals just how far removed from reality the person who wrote this junk is. The first claim on that site is -
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    No one claims that six million people were murdered in the gas chambers.
    About half of all the Holocaust victims were gassed: the rest were murdered through mass shootings, starvation, death marches, beatings, disease etc.

    (For the readers: Prof Nick Terry and his colleagues at Exeter University in the UK, have analysed the material on this website. They provide evidence
    that refutes every statement made on there http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...holocaust.html )

    How, exactly, are you qualified to dismiss the work of “mainstream” academics in the belief that it does not “reflect reality”?

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    They just say that there were no gas chambers involved.
    So, if as you claim, there were no gas chambers, what do you say about the systematic murder of institutionalised patients with disabilities in Germany? The Action T4 programme,
    where those with a ”life unworthy of life" - individuals who, because of severe psychiatric, neurological, or physical disabilities, represented both a genetic and a financial burden on
    German society and the state?

    The Nazi regime established six gassing installations to kill disabled adults and others as part of their "euthanasia" action - the T4 programme. Bernburg, Brandenburg, Grafeneck,
    Hadamar, Hartheim, and Sonnenstein were killing centres that used pure, chemically manufactured carbon monoxide gas to kill innocent, vulnerable people.

    The patients were transported from their institutions by bus or by rail to one of the central gassing installations to be killing. Within hours of their arrival, the victims were murdered
    in gas chambers disguised as shower facilities. T4 functionaries then burned the bodies in crematoria attached to the gassing facilities.

    The “euthanasia" T4 programme took the lives of over 70,000 mentally and physically disabled adults between January 1940 and August 1941.

    That was in addition to over 10,000 children who were killed through lethal injection and gassing.

    In total, Aktion T4 killed between 275,000 and 300,000 innocent people. The method of death by gassing that was developed for the programme would later be transferred to the mass
    killing of Jews, Poles, Roma, homosexuals and other targeted groups in extermination camps.

    Do you believe that those gas chambers existed?
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    Quote Here are the only four photographs in existence (for reasons stated in post 361) that depict the actual process of mass killing perpetrated at the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
    These four photographs are of immense importance because they prove that the unimaginable is imaginable: nobody can deny the existence of these pictures. The photographs are
    only one moment of the “truth”, but they are invaluable, since they are there is regarding the extermination.
    It looks like they're burning bodies. How do you know how the people died?

    When are you going to address this?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1385408


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    I'd better post this again. The link is dead but luckily I saved part of it.

    http://nazigassings.com/
    (excerpt)
    ---------------------------------
    There are NO photographs of corpses of Nazi gassing victims. The cheap, dirty trick which really makes the hoax succeed is the wilful misuse of pictures of countless sick and dead in the camps at the end of the war—none of which are of people killed in gas chambers—but which are repeatedly shown to give the false impression that millions of people must have been murdered in gas chambers. There really is no direct connection--but for the more than gullible masses, the connection is “undeniable.” The people who show those pictures are all in on the trick. They all know perfectly well that the pictures are of people who died of other causes such as typhus—but they use the pictures anyway for their powerful psychological effect to precondition their audience for the gassing and mass extermination pitch which inevitably follows. The pictures are irrelevant except for their enormous shock value. Pictures of countless healthy prisoners in the same camps are generally not shown for reasons that are all too obvious. This delibeerate misuse of photographs is rather widespread and illustrates the collective eagerness of many people (the “hoaxers“ or co-conspirators in the hoax), especially in the American media, to throw whatever they can find against the Nazis, SS and Germans generally just like spiteful children. They want to believe in the hoax.
    ----------------------------------

    These are healthy prisoners.
    https://blogs.chapman.edu/holocaust-...camp-libguide/
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    Quote So, if as you claim, there were no gas chambers, what do you say about the systematic murder of institutionalised patients with disabilities in Germany?
    I don't know anything about that. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be true but I don't see how it could be verified.

    All I want to do is figure out what happened. If something bad really happened, I won't go into denial.
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    Regarding post #364...

    I scanned some of their works and I didn't see this particular analysis addressed.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1385408


    Until this is disproved, everything else is moot as it might be sophistry written by people who don't even believe their own arguments. I've been asking you to address it for a while now.

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    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    Quote So, if as you claim, there were no gas chambers, what do you say about the systematic murder of institutionalised patients with disabilities in Germany?
    I don't know anything about that. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be true but I don't see how it could be verified.

    All I want to do is figure out what happened. If something bad really happened, I won't go into denial.
    As someone who has been posting on forums about the Holocaust for more than 10 years, it’s hard to believe that you don’t know about Aktion T4.
    Aren’t you at all interested in the fact that the Nazis had a programme of gassing those “unworthy of life”?
    And that that programme paved the way to the use of gas chambers in the extermination camps?

    It is illogical to deny the existence of gas chambers in the extermination camps of Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau
    when the Nazi regime had already been using such methods since 1939 (and Hitler had been planning such action since 1933).

    Here is the signed order from Hitler giving instructions to proceed with the mass murder of the mentally and physically ill:

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    The wording of the edict in English: "Reichsleiter Bouhler and Dr. Brandt are assigned to be professionally accountable in charge to extend the legal authority of specific named Medical Doctors, so that they may grant euthanasia to as far as is humanly possible to tell incurably sick patients after most critical adjudication of their medical condition. -- A. Hitler"


    Read the transcripts for the "Doctors' Trials", which were 12 trials for war crimes of doctors accused of having been involved in Nazi human experimentation
    and mass murder under the guise of euthanasia.

    This is the testimony of Viktor Brack, organiser of T4, regarding the gassing of insane people in Germany:

    “Q: Witness, when adult persons were selected for euthanasia and sent by transport to euthanasia stations for that purpose, by what methods were the mercy deaths given?
    A: The patients went to a euthanasia institution after the written formalities were concluded – I need not repeat these formalities here, they were physical examinations, comparison of the files, etc. The the patients were led to a gas chamber and were there killed by the doctors with carbon monoxide gas (CO).
    Q: Where was that carbon monoxide obtained, by what process?
    A: It was in a compressed gas container, like a steel oxygen container, such as is used for welding – a hollow steel container.
    Q: And these people were placed in this chamber in groups, I suppose, and then the carbon monoxide was turned into the chambers?
    A: Perhaps I had better explain this in some detail. Bouhler’s basic requirement was that the killing should not only be painless, but also imperceptible. For this reason, the photographing of the patients, which was only done for scientific reasons, took place before they entered the chambers, and the patients were completely diverted thereby. Then they were led into the gas chamber which they were told was a shower room. They were in groups of perhaps 20 or 30. They were gassed by the doctor in charge.
    Q. What was done with the bodies of these people after mercy deaths were given?
    A. When the room had been cleared of gas again, stretchers were brought in and the bodies were carried into an adjoining room. There the doctor examined them to determine whether they were dead.
    Q. Then what happened to the bodies?
    A. After the doctor had determined death, he freed the bodies for cremation and they were cremated.
    Q. After he had freed the bodies, had determined that they were dead, they were then cremated? Is that correct?
    A. Yes.
    Q. There was a crematory built for every one of these institutions?
    A. Yes. Crematoriums were built in the institutions. .
    Q. And these people thought that they were going in to take a shower bath?
    A. If any of them had any power of reasoning, they had no doubt thought that.
    Q. Well now, were they taken into the shower rooms with their clothes on or were they nude?
    A. No. They were nude.
    Q. In every case?
    A. Whenever I saw them, yes.”


    [Quoted in “Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals” – Washington, U.S Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol. I, p. 876-886].





    And then, of course, there were the mobile gas vans, where instead of transporting the victims to the gas chambers, the gas chambers were taken to the victims.

    Here are dozens of contemporary German documents relating to the homicidal gassings by German paramilitary forces and provide insight into the construction, dispatch and use of the gas vans.
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...uments-on.html

    This essay refutes claims that diesel exhaust does not kill:
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...-vans-why.html

    And here is a rebuttal to Mattogno’s book:
    https://holocaustcontroversies.blogs...-book-and.html



    No one knows how many people were murdered in this way, using poisonous gas.


    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    If something bad really happened, I won't go into denial.
    You're already deeply embedded in denial.

    Out of interest, how would you know if "something bad really happened"? What would it take for the penny to drop with you?

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    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    Quote Here are the only four photographs in existence (for reasons stated in post 361) that depict the actual process of mass killing perpetrated at the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
    These four photographs are of immense importance because they prove that the unimaginable is imaginable: nobody can deny the existence of these pictures. The photographs are
    only one moment of the “truth”, but they are invaluable, since they are there is regarding the extermination.
    It looks like they're burning bodies. How do you know how the people died?
    That’s your rebuttal?? Do some research. Read the analyses and studies I posted.



    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    I'd better post this again.
    Why? I've already explained why there are so few photographs of the victims of the Nazi gassings.

    The Nazis did everything they could to keep the gassing of their victims secret so why would they take photos?

    They even concocted a convoluted language full of code words to hide their actions (read "The Language of the Third Reich" by Klemperer)
    - even they weren’t sick enough to actually record the gassings they carried out on film.

    If Friedrich Berg was better informed, he would have known that:

    1) the bodies were all destroyed immediately upon removal from the gas chambers, incinerated either in crematoria or open air pits.

    2) The SS was explicitly forbidden to take photographs of executions and hangings, or record them in their personal writings: the regime was
    terrified that word of their actions would get out.

    SS Lieutenant General Kruger signed a decree on 14th August 1940 stating that “any participation of spectators and photographing are forbidden”

    General Otto Woehler Chief of Staff of the 11th Army and co-ordinator of Einsatzgruppe D threatened severe punishment for anyone who disobeyed:
    “No photographs will be made of such abominable excesses and no report of them will be given in letters home. The production and distribution of such photographs
    and reports on such incidents are looked upon as undermining the decency and discipline in the armed forces and will be severely punished. All existing photographs
    and reports will be confiscated along with the negatives”.

    In 1942, Reinhard Heydrich, Head of the Gestapo and SS, repeated this, ordering that “the taking of pictures are mass executions and requested the commanders
    of the Order Police hunt for pictures, films or plates circulating among their own men”.



    You must have missed this question:

    Why have those you believe are behind what you think is the lies about the Holocaust not forged photographs that they could then claim to be the ultimate proof
    of the gas chambers? You’re always proclaiming evidence has been faked - photos of mass murder by gassing would be the obvious thing to fake.

    And yet there are no such photos. Why is that?
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    These are healthy prisoners.
    https://blogs.chapman.edu/holocaust-...camp-libguide/

    I’m stunned. What you are implying is ridiculous.

    You obviously have absolutely no idea how very asinine - and offensive - this is. I feel pity for you in your ignorance.
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    This renders all your stuff moot if you can't debunk it.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1385408

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    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    This renders all your stuff moot if you can't debunk it.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1385408
    What is your obsession with Faurisson?? He was just a teacher of French literature - he knew nothing of history, science, chemistry, architecture, engineering ...
    all his fulminations are merely opinions based on his racist ideology and, as such, are easy to debunk.

    Even one of Faurisson’s fellow deniers, Fritz Berg, admits that the man is an imbecile: “On technical subject matter, Robert Faurisson is hopeless! He is a kind of
    techno-retard locked into his fixed ideas about “impossibilities.” Unfortunately, so are many “revisionist” true-believers who seem to worship at his feet.”

    And all Holocaust deniers live in an echo chamber, recycling and regurgitating the same old lies and misrepresentations over and over. It's all very incestuous -
    and therefore, to debunk one is to debunk them all.
    As an example:
    Faurisson based his claims on the work of Fred Leuchter, a proven liar and fraud.
    Leuchter's "report" has been completely discredited.
    Thus, Faurisson's claims are false.

    A protege of Faurisson's was a chemist named Jean-Claude Pressac. He too was sceptical of the gas chambers, and undertook a lengthy and careful study at Auschwitz ,
    in which he analysed a wide variety of original camp documents, photos, reports and blueprints with the aim of finding “historically inaccurate depictions” of the death camps.
    Pressac concluded that his original skepticism could no longer be supported in the face of the evidence and he ended up being convinced of their reality instead.

    In his study, "Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers", Pressac demonstrates the use of the gas chambers of Auschwitz-Birkenau in the murders
    of hundreds of thousands of people.

    Here's another piece of detailed research that debunks Faurisson's claims:
    "The Ruins of the Gas Chambers: A Forensic Investigation of Crematoriums at Auschwitz I and Auschwitz-Birkenau" by Daniel Keren, Harry W. Mazal and Jamie McCarthy.
    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-...rt/holes.shtml

    In the report, the authors examine the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau by synthesizing the results of several approaches:
    • engineering techniques
    • computer simulation
    • photographic analysis
    • historical sources
    This report demolish Faurisson's "no holes" canard, as they were able to identify five of the holes in Crematorium I and three of the four in Crematorium II, which today is
    mainly a pile of rubble. It is an excellent synthesis of scientific and historical examination.

    Another relevant piece of research:
    "The Case for Auschwitz - Amidst a Nightmare of Crime " by R. J. van Pelt
    Also by Van Pelt:
    https://www.hdot.org/vanpelt/
    And
    Pressac, Jean-Claude and Van Pelt, Robert-Jan "The Machinery of Mass Murder at Auschwitz"

    A few more classics for you:
    "Gas Chambers and Crematoria" Franciszek Piper
    "Denying the Holocaust—The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory": Deborah Lipstadt
    "The Chemistry of Auschwitz" Richard J Green
    "Chemistry is Not the Science: Rudolf, Rhetoric" and Reduction Richard J Green

    Then, of course, there is the study by the Crakow team of chemists at the Institute of Forensic Research:
    "A Study of the Cyanide Compounds Content in the Walls of the Gas Chambers in the Former Auschwitz & Birkenau Concentration Camps".

    Plenty more where these came from.
    And they all refute the beliefs of Faurisson.

    As to the excerpt you keep posting here, Faurisson’s claims have already been refuted in my posts 240, 244 and 246.

    Are you happy now?

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    Quote Faurisson based his claims on the work of Fred Leuchter, a proven liar and fraud.
    Leuchter's "report" has been completely discredited.
    Thus, Faurisson's claims are false.
    That's what the sophists in charge of damage-control say but it isn't true.

    This is for the viewers. Watch this video from the 39:00 time mark to the 42:35 time mark.

    One Third of the Holocaust - 3 of 5
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...7&&FORM=VRDGAR

    Here's the whole documentary.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=one+th...290C2500B1ACD6

    What you keep posting is just attempted damage-control by sophists to counter the evidence that there were no gas chambers.

    Documents can be fake. Witnesses can lie.


    Quote
    Quote It looks like they're burning bodies. How do you know how the people died?
    Quote That’s your rebuttal?? Do some research. Read the analyses and studies I posted.
    So an article that you posted says that those people died in a gas chamber. Therefore, they died in a gas chamber. This is the lamest things you've said yet. You're not a very good sophist.


    I'm getting pretty tired of this. You've said some pretty lame things that pretty much discredited you. I've posted the revisionists' side for the viewers to see. The viewers can decide for themselves.

    I know you're going to make the last post and do the victory dance if I don't come back but I doubt that many viewers think that whoever makes the last post wins the debate.

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