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    28 medical studies come to the same shocking conclusion: Fluoride is linked to lower intelligence in children

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    To date, there are at least 53 known international scientific studies concluding that fluoride consumption is harmful to the development of intelligence in children, it impairs their learning and memory capacity. Children are commonly exposed to fluoride from municipal water supplies, dental treatments, environmental pollution, and in-utero.

    Municipal water fluoridation is a state-mandated pharmacological intervention that ostensibly aims to fight dental fluorosis, but this claim is highly contested, and a growing body of research indicates that water fluoridation is linked to lower IQ in children. Medication without consent is a human rights violation.

    In 2017, former EPA senior scientist, William Hirzy, PhD noted:
    "The significance of this peer reviewed risk analysis is that it indicates there may be no actual safe level of exposure to fluoride. Groups of children with lower exposures to fluoride were compared with groups having higher exposures. Those with higher exposures performed more poorly on IQ tests than those with lower exposures." ~Former EPA senior scientist, William Hirzy, PhD
    Here is a sampling of some of the shocking conclusions from these studies, as documented by The Fluoride Action Network, where a full breakdown on these studies, as well as comments about study methodologies and locations, may be found.
    "Chronic exposure to high levels of fluoride in water was observed to be associated with lower intelligence quotient." ~IQ Study #41: Nagarajappa (2013)

    "School children residing in area with higher than normal water fluoride level demonstrated more impaired development of intelligence when compared to school children residing in areas with normal and low water fluoride levels." ~IQ Study #47: Sebastian (2015)

    "[C]hildren residing in areas with higher than normal water fluoride level demonstrated more impaired development of intelligence and moderate [dental fluorosis]. Millions of children including adults around the world are affected by higher level of fluoride concentration through their drinking water and are therefore potentially at risk. It is concluded that for the benefit of the future generation, urgent attention should be paid on this substantial public health problem." ~IQ Study #50: (Das 2016)

    "[S]tudents of the study area have less IQ than students of non-contaminated area, demonstrating that consumption of F also has a major role with the intellectual development of children." ~IQ Study #49: Mondal (2016)

    "The data from this research may support the hypothesis that excess fluoride in drinking water has toxic effects on the nervous system." ~IQ Study #48: Khan (2015)

    "Fluoride in the drinking water was significantly related with the IQ of children. Along with fluoride, mother's diet during pregnancy was also found to be significantly related with IQ of children." ~IQ Study #46: Kundu (2015)

    "Results of our field study raise a concern about the safety of elevated systemic exposure to fluoride from high concentrations in the drinking water. While topical fluoride treatment confers benefits of reducing caries incidence, the systemic exposure should not be so high as to impair children's neurodevelopment especially during the highly vulnerable windows of brain development in utero and during infancy and childhood and may result in permanent brain injury." ~IQ Study #45: Choi (2015)

    "Exposures to fluorine and arsenic are deleterious to the development of intelligence and the development of growth in children" ~IQ Study #43: Bai (2014)

    "We observed reduced AChE activity in [the high fluoride area] which may be directly correlate[d] with the reduced intelligence score of the subjects." ~IQ Study #40: Singh (2013)

    "The study found that children residing in a region with a high drinking water F level had lower IQs compared to children living in a low drinking water F region (p<0.001). The differences could not be attributed to confounding educational, economic, social, cultural, and general demographic factors." ~Karimzade (2014)

    "This study indicates that exposure to fluoride is associated with reduced intelligence in children." ~IQ Study #36: Saxena (2012)

    "In conclusion, our study suggested that low levels of fluoride exposure in drinking water had negative effects on children's intelligence and dental health and confirmed the dose-response relationships between urine fluoride and IQ scores as well as dental fluorosis." ~IQ Study #35: Ding (2011)

    "Based on the findings, chronic exposure to high levels of fluoride can be one of the factors that influence intellectual development." ~IQ Study #34: Poureslami (2011)

    "Previous studies had indicated toward decreased Intelligence in children exposed to high levels of fluoride and our study also confirmed such an effect." ~IQ Study #32: Shivaprakash (2011)

    "Findings of this study suggest that overall IQ levels in children's exposed to high fluoride level were significantly lower than the low fluoride areas." ~IQ Study #31: Sudhir (2009)

    "High exposure to fluoride most definitely has an adverse effect on the development of intelligence in children, in particular on the capability of abstract inference." ~IQ Study #30: Li (2009)

    "This study indicates that exposure to fluoride in drinking water is associated with neurotoxic effects in children." ~IQ Study #28: Wang (2007)

    "In agreement with other studies elsewhere, these findings indicate that children drinking high F water are at risk for impaired development of intelligence." ~IQ Study #27: Trivedi (2007)

    "Exposure to high levels of fluoride is likely to cause a certain level of harm to a child's level of intelligence." ~IQ Study #26: Fan (2007)

    "Based on the findings of this study, exposure of children to high levels of fluoride may carry the risk of impaired development of intelligence." ~IQ Study #25: Seraj (2006)

    "High fluoride burden has a definite effect on the intellectual and physical development of children." ~IQ Study #24: Wang (2005)

    "The findings of this study thus replicate those of earlier studies and suggest that a real relationship exists between fluoride exposure and intelligence." ~IQ Study #18: Lu (2000)

    "These results show that water improvement and defluoridation can improve the mental and physical development of children in a fluorosis area." ~IQ Study #16: Yao (1997)
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    Despite all this evidence, West Cumbria’s beautiful water is STILL being fluoridated, in fact, the machinery to facilitate this that was broken at Corn How water treatment plant has now been replaced so we can still be the local ‘guinea-pigs’ of fluoridation: notable local changes include obesity, lower IQ, this area is being deliberately trashed, and now introducing toxic borehole water which includes heavy metal mine wastage in areas near nuclear waste disposal facility. - they need the purer water, it beggars belief.
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    As a matter of interest: in Ecuador, and I believe in many other South American countries, fluoride is not added to the water, but to the SALT.

    That's because many rural communities have their own water supply, straight from the mountain or river. But everyone needs salt. So they get it into the population that way.

    In the packaging, they're proud that it's fluoridated. (Fluorada = Fluoridated. Yodada = Iodized.) The citizens think this is a wonderful modern health benefit that's being gifted to them.

    (I do have a source of pure salt here, so it IS easily possible to escape it. But the locals just don't know that. It's a sad and interesting commentary on our times.)


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    Earlier, I found this site, being curious about my own fluoride intake because of this thread. It is a United States only resource, about each state and town's water supply. You can check which city's water supply has fluoride, how much and what year they began fluoridating the water. It's all factual.

    The link says Louisiana, but you can check any state in the U.S. What's interesting is I noticed New Orleans didn't become fluoridated until 1974, after my parents divorced and we moved across the lake to the Northshore, where there was no fluoridation the whole time I was growing up. We had natural artesian well water.

    We still have well water where I live now.

    http://fluoridealert.org/researchers/states/louisiana/
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    There is an Hispanic movement in the US aimed at educating Hispanics about what a poisonous substance fluoride is. It will be great if their influence is spreading to other countries.

    See: http://fluoridealert.org/articles/lulac01/
    "INFLUENTIAL NATIONAL HISPANIC CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION VOTES TO OPPOSE WATER FLUORIDATION

    Ellijay, GA – In an action with far-reaching national ramifications, the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), the oldest Hispanic civil rights organization in the United States, has adopted a resolution opposing the practice of water fluoridation.

    The resolution was passed at the 2011 LULAC national convention in Cincinnati.

    The news adds Hispanic leaders to a growing list of groups and prominent individuals now speaking out against the controversial practice of fluoridation, including former Atlanta mayor and U.N. ambassador Andrew Young, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s daughter and niece Dr. Bernice A. King and Dr. Alveda King, Coalition of African American Pastors President Rev. William Owens, and civil rights leader and minister Dr. Gerald Durley.

    “The Hispanic community is no longer going to be silent on this issue,” says Henry Rodriguez, LULAC’s Texas civil rights chairman. “This is about forcing us to be medicated through our drinking water without our consent or full disclosure of the risks.”

    “Fluoridation is a civil rights violation,” he says. “Opposition to fluoridation is going to continue building and there is no stopping it. There are millions of Hispanics and other minorities in the U.S. who don’t have the funds to avoid fluoridated water for making their babies’ milk formula. And millions of families don’t know they’re being medicated in their drinking water, or about possible risks for kidney patients and diabetics.”

    Human rights advocate Dr. Bernice A. King states, “Water fluoridation needs to end. It is good that organizations are lending their support to help push this outdated and harmful practice of fluoridation toward collapse. This is wonderful news.”

    Babies, diabetics, kidney patients, and other groups are listed by the National Research Council as susceptible groups especially vulnerable to harm from ingested fluorides.

    Water utilities add fluoride chemicals to drinking water to help prevent cavities. They are the only chemicals specifically added to treat or prevent a health condition in the body, rather than to treat the water itself.

    “Fluorides are listed in the ‘Drug Facts’ information on boxes of fluoridated toothpaste sold to help prevent cavities,” says Daniel G. Stockin of The Lillie Center Inc., a firm working to end water fluoridation. “But water utilities haven’t been acknowledging fluorides as a medication when they are added to drinking water for the same purpose.”

    The Gerber company now sells an unfluoridated bottled water so parents of young babies can avoid using fluoridated water when mixing milk formula. Major toothpaste manufacturers are also now selling unfluoridated toothpaste for toddlers marked “Fluoride-free. Safe if swallowed.”

    After decades of water fluoridation, data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control indicates that Hispanics have significantly higher levels of untreated cavities than whites, and that Hispanics have disproportionate amounts of “fluorosis” stains disfiguring their teeth.

    “Fluoridation certainly hasn’t been very effective at preventing cavities in Hispanics,” states Stockin. “Oral health education and access to dental care for disadvantaged families, this is what Hispanic families need.”

    The LULAC resolution notes the National Research Council’s 2006 acknowledgement of large gaps in research on fluoride’s effects on the body, and that these gaps contradict assurances made by public health officials that fluorides and fluoridation have been exhaustively researched.

    The resolution also demands to know why health agencies are “more protective of the public policy of fluoridation than they are of public health.”

    “Watch what develops now as members of the Hispanic legal community are awakening to this issue,” Stockin says. “This issue of disproportionate fluoride harm to minorities is gaining attention because it is real and we have science supporting it. The train has left the station. Fluoridation is ending. You can look for a quickening cascade of cities, water utilities, health officials and others distancing themselves from fluoridation.” "

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    As a matter of interest: in Ecuador, and I believe in many other South American countries, fluoride is not added to the water, but to the SALT.
    (Actually what is being used primarily now is not natural fluoride at all, but a very toxic byproduct of industry called hydrofluosilicic acid.) See:https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...2013-04-22.pdf
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    Could it be more obvious, there is a "hidden" agenda to slowly destroy us.
    When we follow the line of politicians from local to State to Federal we can see that there is a higher
    force dictating what "they" the politicians have to do, or else.
    Are they reptilian, tptb, or what?
    We need to know and do something about the problem.

    What can be done when we are up against a force greater than us?
    That is the question.
    We need to count our assets. We have physical, Spiritual and our ingenuity. But mostly we can not give up, ever...............
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Earlier, I found this site, being curious about my own fluoride intake because of this thread. It is a United States only resource, about each state and town's water supply. You can check which city's water supply has fluoride, how much and what year they began fluoridating the water. It's all factual.

    The link says Louisiana, but you can check any state in the U.S. What's interesting is I noticed New Orleans didn't become fluoridated until 1974, after my parents divorced and we moved across the lake to the Northshore, where there was no fluoridation the whole time I was growing up. We had natural artesian well water.

    We still have well water where I live now.

    http://fluoridealert.org/researchers/states/louisiana/
    I checked out the website that you recommended and it is so informative. I am happy to say that my town has rejected fluoride in our water system. I live in Washington state, and so many feel it is really progressive but they sure have a lot of work to do with Fluoride in the water systems.

    I have learned a lot from this thread and the really creepy part is that fluoride is hiding in so many foods and even cooking utensils. One more reason why eating foods that have not been processed is beneficial. There is a definite agenda to dumb us down.

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    The link below may shock some, It did me when I found out this practice goes on in real life. It is a treatment called fluoride tooth varnishing and is aimed at children in the UK as well as other locations around the world. Very chilling, came out in a cold sweat when I found out this is happening.

    https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...d-to-Know.aspx

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    Quote Posted by Verdilac (here)
    The link below may shock some, It did me when I found out this practice goes on in real life. It is a treatment called fluoride tooth varnishing and is aimed at children in the UK as well as other locations around the world. Very chilling, came out in a cold sweat when I found out this is happening.

    https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...d-to-Know.aspx

    tell me about this.

    When Mini-Flash (a non active member here) was small, she would go to the dentist regularly, he would offer the fluoride at the end of clean up and i would refuse. I had put in her file to not give any fluoride treatment.

    I was having her on a biological diet plus treatments to enhance here body biology/chemistry to its maximum, to give her a chance for her nervous system to regenerate. And fluoride is harming the nervous system, undoing what I was doing.

    When she got to be about 13, she went alone to the dentist, 3 times. Then I realized that a treatment was billed on my credit card for those 3 times. I checked out and it was the fluoride treatment. I was so angry, went there had me refunded and said no more treatment. This guy teaches at university, how bad!!.

    Well, when she got to be 16, at which age they can legally chose medical treatment, the dentist intimidated her, laughing at her, because she was refusing fluoride. She came back home crying. To this day, she still has perfect teeth without any fluoride (Montreal water is not fluoridated).

    I finally changed dentist for a natural / health conscious one, more expensive but worth the price.

    To this day, I am still angry - I had told this bad dentist's colleague that fluoride is dangerous and more so for children with neurological developmental impairment. But this bad dentist would not hear parents and would forego parents order.
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    To this day, I am still angry - I had told this bad dentist's colleague that fluoride is dangerous and more so for children with neurological developmental impairment. But this bad dentist would not hear parents and would forego parents order.
    Thanks, and that's a very instructive story. Kind of scary, too. A parallel, as of course you know, is the bullying of new mothers — really close to intimidation — to inject their babies with everything that one might think of, really soon after birth.

    Not related to fluoride, but 20 years ago I had a molar root canal problem. The dentist I want to (in Edinburgh, Scotland), lent me her own book about the work of Dr Weston Price to read overnight, and then invited me to make my own decision. (I asked her to please take the tooth out!)

    That dentist was enlightened. We need tens of thousands more like that.

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    Not just after birth, but invitro, as well, when the child is even more vulnerable.
    "A parallel, as of course you know, is the bullying of new mothers — really close to intimidation — to inject their babies with everything that one might think of, really soon after birth."
    When I was still in my 20s , I had a dentist who foresaw lots of root canals and other painful and ultimately toxic procedures in my future, since I was already under so much stress due to a serious disability and was grinding my teeth at night.
    He actually recommended that I have my teeth pulled right then and get dentures, which would have saved me so much pain and expense later on.
    And he wasn't offering because he thought I was a lucrative prospect.
    Not wise enough then to concede, I wish now I had listened!
    It truly was inevitable that I would have to get dentures, but it just prolonged the agony not getting it done early on. and was much more painful that way in the long run.

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    To this day, I am still angry - I had told this bad dentist's colleague that fluoride is dangerous and more so for children with neurological developmental impairment. But this bad dentist would not hear parents and would forego parents order.
    Thanks, and that's a very instructive story. Kind of scary, too. A parallel, as of course you know, is the bullying of new mothers — really close to intimidation — to inject their babies with everything that one might think of, really soon after birth.

    Not related to fluoride, but 20 years ago I had a molar root canal problem. The dentist I want to (in Edinburgh, Scotland), lent me her own book about the work of Dr Weston Price to read overnight, and then invited me to make my own decision. (I asked her to please take the tooth out!)

    That dentist was enlightened. We need tens of thousands more like that.
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    Fluoride attaches to the iodine receptors of the thyroid.
    (after a dentist appointment they put a lot of fluoride on my teeth - not knowing what it was I swallowed most of it - they told me not to drink anything for an hour. and forgot to tell me to spit it out.)

    I went into being hypothyroid - felt exhausted, cold all the time. started gaining weight. felt awful.

    Then I found Dr. Brownsteins iodine book. Iodine is needed by the body. Fluoride not.
    I started on the iodine protocol. Detox was heavy the first days.
    But it flushed out my fluoride and bromide deposits quickly.

    My energy is back. I feel great. My cycts (breast/ovary) are gone!
    And I am dreaming a lot (so my pineal gland seems to have been freed es well)

    You can find tons of testimonials on iodine (lugols) on amazon.
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    Dentists generally utilise products that are infiltrated with leaching fluoride, such as replacement fillings after mercury-riddled olde amalgam ‘safely’ removed. I searched for fluoride-free filling products, or any other substance that would be introduced into ‘remedial’ dentistry, and could not find anything which was not contaminated with fluoride. Even crowns, dentures...
    Trying to find an holistic dentist who has not been ‘compromised’ (innocently or not, as they work to ‘award schemes’, like most health services who are beholden to the big pharma), is almost impossible.

    However, earlier on in this thread, it was advocated that Curcumin (organic turmeric) helped to deplete fluoride in the body and brain. Last year, I started on organic curcumin with organic black pepper to facilitate absorbtion 600mg capsules per day, as my water is fluoridated. Hopefully, the terrible proliferation in West Cumbria of alzheimers and dementia will not affect me yet.... fingers et al crossed....
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    Three new studies
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    "Three new studies released today link fluoride exposure to ADHD and thyroid problems — and point to drinking water as the major source of exposure.
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    Two studies — one from Canada and one Mexico — released today point to potential health problems from fluoride, which, in a majority of U.S. communities, is purposefully added to drinking water to protect people's teeth.

    The Canada study found that adults who are iodine deficient and have higher levels of fluoride in their system have a greater risk of an underactive thyroid. The Mexico study found mothers with higher fluoride exposure during pregnancy were more likely to have children with symptoms of ADHD. Both studies were published in the journal Environmental International.

    A third study, published in Environmental Health Perspectives, found that among 1,566 pregnant women in Canada, fluoride levels in urine were almost two times higher for women who lived in regions where the element was added to their drinking water compared to pregnant women in regions with non-fluoridated water.

    The studies call into question the practice of purposely adding fluoride to water or salt, which is done to prevent cavities and, to a lesser extent, osteoporosis. Many cities in the U.S. and Canada add fluoride to public drinking water and in Mexico it's added to some salt. Approximately 66 percent of people in the U.S. receive drinking water with added fluoride, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    About 80 percent of fluoride exposure comes from water and beverages such as tea, which can leach fluoride from soil. Other sources include grapes and shellfish.

    "I have grave concerns about the health effects of fluoride exposure," Ashley Malin, lead author of the Canada thyroid study and a researcher at the Department of Environmental Medicine and Public Health, Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, told EHN. "And not just from my study but the other studies that have come out in recent years."

    Fluoride, iodine and thyroids
    Malin and colleagues had massive amounts of information from the Canadian Health Measure study. They looked at fluoride levels in the urine of nearly 7 million Canadians, as well as iodine deficiency and thyroid gland activity.

    They found Canadians who were deficient in iodine—a mineral crucial for proper functioning of the thyroid — and who had high amounts of fluoride in their urine also had higher levels of thyroid stimulating hormones. Elevated levels of these hormones are a marker for a suppressed thyroid gland – commonly referred to as hypothyroidism, a condition that can cause a host of problems including fatigue, disrupted heart rates, and altered metabolism.

    Small increases in thyroid stimulating hormones can be problematic, Malin said.

    "Someone doesn't need to have full blown hypothyroidism to have an elevation in [thyroid stimulating hormones]. Research is showing more and more that subclinical elevations are associated with bad health effects," Malin said.

    Iodine helps flush fluoride from the body so a deficiency leaves the body with more fluoride, which has been shown to interfere with certain enzymes important for thyroid function. This could explain why only iodine deficient Canadians seemed sensitive to fluoride impacts.

    Malin said 18 percent of the nearly 7 million people they studied were iodine deficient. "We're talking about potentially [more than] a million people at risk of an underactive thyroid due to fluoride exposure."

    But there are major health benefits of fluoride in water. According to the CDC, drinking fluoridated water reduces cavities (also called tooth decay) by about 25 percent in children and adults. The agency named water fluoridation one of its "Ten Great Public Health Achievements" of the 20th Century.

    Dr. Manish Arora, a dentist and vice chairman of the Department of Environmental Medicine and Public Health at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, told EHN via email that it "is important to balance these results with what we know about the benefits of water fluoridation as well."

    "There have been tremendous gains in children's oral health worldwide over the past decades that, at least in part, can be attributed to the beneficial effects of fluoride," said Arora, who was not involved in any of the studies released today but is collaborating with some of the researchers on other projects.

    While the new study doesn't prove fluoride impacts thyroid function, previous studies have linked the element to reduction thyroid hormones, and to elevated thyroid stimulating hormones and increased likelihood of hypothyroidism and diabetes in adults.

    Behavior impacts

    In the other study published today, researchers looked at 213 Mexican mother-children pairs and examined mothers' urine fluoride levels during pregnancy and assessed children for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) symptoms at ages 6 to 12. They found mothers with higher levels of fluoride during pregnancy were more likely to have children with ADHD symptoms, especially inattention.

    It's not clear from this study why fluoride may impact child's behavior, but it could be driving thyroid hormone insufficiency in pregnant mothers (which can lead to problems in their unborn), or altering children's levels of dopamine, which moves signals from nerve cells to the brain and is vital for behavior development.

    Christine Till, an associate professor and researcher at York University, told EHN one of her main concerns is that pregnant women are susceptible to iodine deficiency, which, according to the study from Canada, could leave the mothers-to-be with thyroid problems.

    Also, fluoride easily crosses the placenta from mother to her unborn. The study is not the first to find a fluoride-behavioral link: A previous study linked the element to ADHD in U.S. children.

    Dr. Howard Hu, co-author of the Mexico study and an epidemiological researcher at the University of Washington, told EHN the research from Canada on fluoride levels in pregnant women "makes the results of this study from Mexico even more applicable to what might be going on in North America."

    To add or not to add
    The evidence that fluoride may have negative impacts on health is building, Hu said, adding that one of the "most awkward features of this debate" is that it pits one branch of public health vs another.

    Arora said "as a dentist and environmental health scientist, I feel this is an opportune moment in our professions to have an honest discussion."

    "A question that is becoming increasingly important – is fluoridation of water supplies the best way to deliver the oral health benefits of fluoride?" Arora said. "For me, there is no 'one size fits all' answer to this. Socioeconomics, background risk and other aspects of the community have to be considered, but now is the time to have the scientific debate."

    In a statement, the American Dental Association told EHN their National Fluoridation Advisory Committee would review the new studies, adding that "public health policy is based on a collective weight of scientific evidence, not the results of a single (or few) studies. The ADA remains committed to fluoridation of public water supplies as the single most effective public health measure to help prevent tooth decay."

    Hu echoed Arora and said the answer in moving forward with fluoride is more nuanced than being pro- or anti-fluoride.

    "Clearly this warrants additional research and consideration with how policies related to fluoride may need to be rethought," Hu said. "And not simply 'do we use fluoride or not,' but can we figure out a way to preserve the benefits while minimizing the potential adverse effects."

    Till said she is "certain the safety of fluoride ingestion has not been proven."

    "The problem is that it's an uncontrolled dose – everyone is exposed to different levels. It may be prudent for pregnant women to reduce ingesting fluoride during pregnancy."
    RELATED ARTICLES AROUND THE WEB
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    Making Sense of the New Studies Associating Fluoride With Harm


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    "FAN, Paul Connett reacts to three recently released studies linking fluoride exposure to ADHD, thyroid problems, and showing that pregnant women in “optimally” fluoridated Canada have significantly higher levels of fluoride in their urine than women in non-fluoridated communities.

    This third study also showed that pregnant Canadians had fluoride urinary levels similar to those that had reduced IQ in offspring from last year’s Bashash et al, 2017 NIH-funded study.

    These findings suggest that the Bashash results from Mexico City may be applied to Canada, and probably the United States, namely that pre-natal exposure to fluoride has the potential to lower IQ in children."


    From Fluoride Alert.com email update today:
    Making Sense of the New Studies Associating Fluoride With Harm
    OCTOBER 18, 2018
    "The FAN team shall never forget the date September 19, 2017. We had concluded our FAN conference in Washington DC on Sept 18 and we were preparing to journey home. In the early hours of the morning we got the news that a rigorous and high-quality US-government funded study had been published that confirmed our worst fears about fluoride’s ability to impact the mental development of young children. The scientific bombshell was that this harm occurred in the womb! Since then - at least in our circles - the name of the lead author –Bashash- has become a household word. Now just over one year later in October 2018, three more papers have been published in the Environment International and the Environmental Health Perspectives. These include a second paper by Bashash et al.

    FAN's Response

    The Fluoride Action Network's Executive Director, Paul Connett, PhD, has filmed a response to these three papers. Please click on the link below to watch, then please share the video with local decisionmakers and neighbors. You can also share FAN's video post on Facebook. See video:


    (Click on graphic to watch video)


    Here are those three papers and a brief explanation why they are important:

    Till C, Green R, Grundy JG, Hornung R, Neufeld R, Martinez-Mier A, Ayotte P, Muckle G, Lanphear. Community Water Fluoridation and Urinary Fluoride Concentrations in a National Sample of Pregnant Women in Canada, Environmental Health Perspectives.


    In this study (partially funded by the US National Institutes of Health) the urinary levels of fluoride in pregnant mothers was measured in ten large cities in Canada (7 fluoridated, 3 not). The authors found the same range of urinary fluoride levels in the Canadian women as in the Mexican city study (Bashash et al., 2017). The mean values in the fluoridated Canadian communities were almost identical to the Mexican City study (0.91 versus 0.87 ppm). We should note two things a) the large sample size used (N=1566 women) and b) the maternal urinary fluoride (UF) was analyzed exactly the same way as in the Bashash study (i.e. adjusting for urinary creatinine). This allows us to make direct comparisons across the two studies.

    This rebuts the simplistic claim by the ADA (issued within a few minutes of the publication of the Bashash study on Sept 19, 2017) that the results were not relevant to the USA.



    Bashash M, Merchand M, Hu H, Till C, Martinez-Mier AE, Sanchez BN, Basu N, Peterson K, Green R, Schnaas L, Mercado-Garcia A, Hernandez-Avila M, Tellez-Rojo MM. Prenatal Fluoride Exposure and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) Symptoms in Children at 6-12 Years of Age in Mexico City. Environmental International.
    This study (also partially funded by the US NIH) was done on the same cohort of mother-child pairs as used in the earlier groundbreaking Bashash et al, 2017 IQ study. In this study, 213 Mexican children aged 6-12 who had elevated prenatal (i.e. in utero) exposure to fluoride (as measured in their mothers’ urine) were more likely to show symptoms of ADHD (Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder) as reported by parents. Prenatal fluoride exposure was more strongly associated with inattentive behaviours and cognitive problems, but not with hyperactivity. In other words, pre-natal fluoride exposure not only interferes with overall cognitive development (as shown earlier by Bashash et al, 2017), but according to this study may also contribute to symptoms of ADHD.

    Bashash controlled for gestational age at birth, birthweight, birth order, sex, maternal marital status, smoking history, age at delivery, education, socioeconomic status and lead exposure. All these factors can influence neurological development.

    Malin AJ, Riddell J, McCague H, Till C. The Relationship among Urinary Fluoride, Urinary Iodine and Serum Thyroid Stimulating Hormone Levels among Adults Living in Canada. Environment International.

    In this study Ashley Malin and co-workers measured the TSH levels in both men and women in Canada. TSH levels are a measure of underactive thyroid gland. When TSH levels go up they indicate an increased risk of hypothyroidism, which has many serious health implications. The study used health-related data from a nationally representative sample of Canadians. The study consisted of 6,914,124 adults between the ages of 18 and 79 years. Adults who were diagnosed with a thyroid disorder, or who were on thyroid medication, as well as pregnant women were excluded. These exclusion criteria are important because they deliberately excluded those who are likely most vulnerable to effects of fluoride. Also, it Is important to note that ~40% of the sample lived in communities that were fluoridated (meaning that most of the sample (~60% ) were exposed to only low levels of fluoride in their drinking water.

    Malin et al. did not find a relationship between fluoride exposure and increased TSH levels among the general population, but they did find a relationship with people who already some iodine deficiency. Specifically, they reported that:

    “An increase of 1 mg of urinary fluoride (specific gravity adjusted) was associated with a 0.35 mIU TSH/liter among adults with moderate-to-severe iodine deficiency.”

    In other words, fluoride exposure appears to exacerbate the condition of hypoactivity for people with low iodine intake. Malin controlled for age, sex, body mass, as well as calcium levels in blood all of which can influence TSH levels.

    It was striking to find how common iodine deficiency is among adults in Canada (and US). In the current study, almost 18 per cent of adults fell in the moderately-to-severely iodine deficient range.


    This mimics an important result found in 1991 by Lin et al, where it was found that modest exposure to fluoride (0.9 ppm) further lowered the IQ of offspring from mothers with iodine deficiency. Note there is a strong relationship between hypothyroidism in the mother and lowered IQ in their offspring. (See a discussion of this in the presentation given by Dr. Vyvyan Howard on Oct 6, 2018 at Otago University, NZ.)



    This study builds upon the substantial evidence that fluoride exposure can impact thyroid function in some individuals, including at “optimal levels.”

    See news coverage of these studies:http://fluoridealert.org/issues/moms...tober-11-2018/


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    A short list on why fluoridation is a bad idea:

    2014 Legal Analysis of Policy: http://works.bepress.com/rita_barnett/3/
    Compulsory Water Fluoridation: Justifiable Public Health Benefit or Human Experimental Research Without Informed Consent
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    Thyroid Deficiency Linked to Iodine Deficiency and Fluoridated Water
    Written by Dr. Joseph Mercola
    October 23, 2018
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a..._rid=451783470

    "STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    People who have moderate-to-severe iodine deficiencies and higher fluoride levels may be at an increased risk for underactive thyroid gland activity
    Pregnant women living in communities with fluoridated drinking water have two times the amount of fluoride in their urine as women living in nonfluoridated communities
    Research has previously revealed that women with higher levels of fluoride in their urine during pregnancy were more likely to have children with lower intelligence
    Higher levels of fluoride exposure during pregnancy were associated with higher measures of ADHD, including more symptoms of inattention, in the children at ages 6 to 12 years
    More than 66 percent of the U.S. population drinks water with added fluoride,1 despite the fact that studies continue to question its safety and usefulness for its stated purpose: preventing cavities. A number of countries — including Germany, Sweden, Japan, the Netherlands, Finland and Israel — have already stopped this hazardous practice, but many Americans are still at risk.

    In Canada, nearly 39 percent of the population also receives fluoridated drinking water (compared with only about 3 percent of Europeans).2 It's been known for years that fluoridated water consumption is linked to thyroid dysfunction and behavioral problems like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and two new studies have added to the already apparent associations.

    Exposure to Fluoridated Water May Disrupt Thyroid Functioning
    Your thyroid gland, located in the front of your neck, influences almost every cell in your body. Thyroid hormones regulate your metabolism and are required for growth and development in children and nearly every physiological process in your body.

    When your thyroid levels are unbalanced, it can lead to a cascade of problems throughout your body. In hypothyroidism, the most common thyroid disorder, your thyroid gland activity is suppressed.

    Also known as underactive thyroid, many with this condition are unaware they have it, and another 4 to 10 percent of the U.S. population may suffer from subclinical hypothyroidism that is missed by testing yet associated with miscarriage, preterm birth and altered growth and neurodevelopment in babies.

    Even moderately imbalanced thyroid levels may be associated with increased risk of metabolic syndrome, researchers noted in the journal Environment International, which is why "studying factors that contribute to low thyroid function, even at the subclinical level, is of high public health importance."3

    Notably, subclinical hypothyroidism is diagnosed by high serum thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) concentrations, and "fluoride in drinking water, even at levels as low as 0.3–0.5 mg/L, have predicted elevated TSH concentrations," the researchers added. "Higher water fluoride concentrations have also predicted an increased likelihood of a hypothyroidism diagnosis among adults."4

    The latest study, which involved data from nearly 7 million Canadian adults not taking any thyroid-related medication, found that higher fluoride levels were not associated with higher TSH levels in the general population; however, when iodine status was accounted for, the results shifted.

    Iodine Deficiency May Heighten the Risks of Fluoridated Water
    Your body uses iodine across several organ systems, but it is most commonly known to synthesize thyroid hormones. Clinically low levels of iodine are associated with visible symptoms, such as a goiter (swelling of the thyroid gland), hypothyroidism or pregnancy-related problems. However, subclinical iodine deficiency can also interfere with your thyroid function.

    Meanwhile, the Canadian study revealed that adults in Canada who have moderate-to-severe iodine deficiencies and higher fluoride levels tend to have higher TSH levels, which indicates they may be at an increased risk for underactive thyroid gland activity.5

    It's a startling finding, considering nearly 2 billion people worldwide don't get enough iodine in their diet.6 As the researchers of the featured study noted, this means that those with iodine deficiency may be at an even greater increased risk from drinking fluoridated water:7

    "Iodine deficiency can contribute to decreased thyroid hormone production and exacerbate the thyroid-disrupting effects of certain chemicals, as well as fluoride …

    Fluoride exposures of 0.05 to 0.13 mg/kg/day have been associated with adverse thyroid effects among iodine sufficient people, while lower fluoride exposures of 0.01 to 0.03 mg/kg/day have been associated with these effects among iodine deficient people."

    The effects were so worrying that lead study author Ashley Malin, a researcher at the department of environmental medicine and public health, Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, told Environmental Health News:8

    "I have grave concerns about the health effects of fluoride exposure … And not just from my study but the other studies that have come out in recent years … We're talking about potentially [more than] a million people at risk of an underactive thyroid due to fluoride exposure."

    In 2015, for instance, British researchers warned that 15,000 people may be afflicted with hypothyroidism in the U.K. as a result of drinking fluoridated water.9 In areas where fluoride levels in the water registered above 0.3 mg/l, the risk of having a high rate of hypothyroidism was 37 percent greater compared to areas that do not fluoridate.

    Pregnant Women Drinking Fluoridated Water Have Higher Fluoride Levels
    Fluoride exposure can occur from multiple sources, ranging from tea and processed foods to dental products, pharmaceuticals and fluoride-containing pesticides. However, research continues to show that drinking water remains a primary route of exposure, including in pregnant women.

    In a study of more than 1,500 pregnant women living in Canada, those living in communities with fluoridated drinking water have two times the amount of fluoride in their urine as women living in nonfluoridated communities.10

    "Research is urgently needed to determine whether prenatal exposure to fluoride contributes to neurodevelopmental outcomes in the offspring of these women," researchers explained.11 In fact, research has previously revealed that women with higher levels of fluoride in their urine during pregnancy were more likely to have children with lower intelligence.

    Specifically, each 0.5 milligram per liter increase in pregnant women's fluoride levels was associated with a reduction of 3.15 and 2.5 points on the children's General Cognitive Index (GCI) of the McCarthy Scales of Children's Abilities and Wechsler Abbreviated Scale of Intelligence (WASI) scores, respectively.

    Lead researcher Dr. Howard Hu, of the Dalla Lana School of Public Health at the University of Toronto in Canada, said in a news release:12

    "Our study shows that the growing fetal nervous system may be adversely affected by higher levels of fluoride exposure. It also suggests that the prenatal nervous system may be more sensitive to fluoride compared to that of school-aged children."

    The findings were groundbreaking, as the study, which spanned 12 years and received funding from the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH), was one of the first and largest studies looking into this topic.

    Prenatal Fluoride Exposure Is Linked to ADHD
    The Canadian study on pregnant women living in fluoridated communities revealed levels of fluoride similar to those found in a study of pregnant women living in Mexico City, where the chemical is added to table salt. The same Mexican sample population has now been featured in another study, linking fluoride exposure to ADHD.13

    The study, which involved more than 200 mother-children pairs, found that higher levels of fluoride exposure during pregnancy were associated with higher measures of ADHD, including more symptoms of inattention, in the children at ages 6 to 12 years. "[The f]indings are consistent with the growing body of evidence suggesting neurotoxicity of early-life exposure to fluoride," researchers explained.14

    It's also possible that fluoride may contribute to or exacerbate behavioral problems such as ADHD by way of pineal gland calcification. Despite its diminutive size, your pineal gland tends to accumulate significant amounts of fluoride, which eventually causes it to calcify.

    Besides ADHD-like symptoms, pineal calcification may also play a role in Alzheimer's and bipolar disease. According to Frank Granett, director of clinical pharmacy operations at Behavioral Center of Michigan Psychiatric Hospital:15

    "Located deep within the brain below the corpus callosum, which is the circuit connector for the right and left brain hemispheres, the pineal gland is responsible for the secretion of melatonin, the human body's biological time-clock hormone regulating normal sleep patterns.

    More importantly, the pineal gland plays a critical role in the enzyme pathway for the production of brain neurotransmitters including serotonin and norepinephrine. Additionally, the body's antioxidant defense system is optimized by healthy pineal tissue, which helps eliminate free-radical toxin accumulation in the body."

    A review in Lancet Neurology also classified fluoride as one of only 11 chemicals "known to cause developmental neurotoxicity in human beings,"16 alongside other known neurotoxins such as lead, methylmercury, arsenic and toluene. Among the proposed mechanisms of harm, studies have shown fluoride can:17

    Interfere with basic functions of nerve cells in the brain

    Reduce nicotinic acetylcholine receptors

    Reduce lipid content in the brain

    Damage the pineal gland through fluoride accumulation

    Impair antioxidant defense systems

    Damage the hippocampus

    Damage Purkinje cells

    Increase uptake of aluminum, which has neurotoxic effects

    Encourage formation of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic brain abnormality in Alzheimer's disease)

    Exacerbate lesions induced by iodine deficiency

    Increase manganese absorption, which has also been linked lower IQ in children

    Impair thyroid function, which can also affect brain development

    Can Fluoride Be Removed From Drinking Water?
    Effective 2015, the level of fluoride in U.S. drinking water was reduced to 0.7 mg/L from a previously recommended range of between 0.7 and 1.2 mg/L. If you live in the U.S. and want to know fluoride levels in your water, the Environmental Working Group's (EWG) Tap Water Database can help.18 This is important for everyone, but pregnant women and households mixing formula for babies should take extra care to consume fluoride-free water. EWG notes:

    "Even fluoride levels of 0.7 ppm, the amount of fluoride in drinking water recommended by the U.S. Public Health Service, can result in too much fluoride for bottle-fed babies.

    EWG recommends that caregivers mix baby formula with fluoride-free water. The National Toxicology Program is investigating the potential for low doses of fluoride to alter thyroid function and childhood brain development."19

    Unfortunately, fluoride is a very small molecule, making it tremendously difficult to filter out once added to your water supply. Any simple countertop carbon filter, like Brita, will not remove it.

    If you have a house water carbon filtration system that has a large volume of carbon, then it may reduce the fluoride as fluoride removal is in direct proportion to the amount of fluoride and the time it's in contact with the media. It's just not going to get it all. Among the more effective filtering systems for fluoride removal are:

    Reverse osmosis (RO). The drawback is that it will remove many valuable minerals and trace elements as well. RO systems also need frequent cleaning to avoid bacterial growth. So, use a tankless RO system with a compressor
    Water distillation, which, like RO, gets everything out, including beneficial minerals. You then need to restructure the water
    Bone char filters and biochar with activated charcoal
    The simplest, most effective, most cost-effective strategy is to not put fluoride in the water to begin with.

    Help End the Practice of Fluoridation
    There's no doubt about it: Fluoride should not be ingested. Even scientists from the EPA's National Health and Environmental Effects Research Laboratory have classified fluoride as a "chemical having substantial evidence of developmental neurotoxicity."

    Furthermore, according to the CDC, 41 percent of American adolescents now have dental fluorosis — unattractive discoloration and mottling of the teeth that indicate overexposure to fluoride. Clearly, children are being overexposed, and their health and development put in jeopardy. Why? The only real solution is to stop the archaic practice of water fluoridation in the first place.

    Fortunately, the Fluoride Action Network has a game plan to END water fluoridation worldwide. Clean pure water is a prerequisite to optimal health. Industrial chemicals, drugs, and other toxic additives really have no place in our water supplies. So, please, protect your drinking water and support the fluoride-free movement by making a tax-deductible donation to the Fluoride Action Network today.

    Internet Resources Where You Can Learn More
    I encourage you to visit the website of the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) and visit the links below:

    Like FAN on Facebook, follow on Twitter and sign up for campaign alerts.
    10 Facts About Fluoride: Attorney Michael Connett summarizes 10 basic facts about fluoride that should be considered in any discussion about whether to fluoridate water. Also see 10 Facts Handout (PDF).
    50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation: Learn why fluoridation is a bad medical practice that is unnecessary and ineffective. Download PDF.
    Health Effects Database: FAN's database sets forth the scientific basis for concerns regarding the safety and effectiveness of ingesting fluorides. They also have a Study Tracker with the most up-to-date and comprehensive source for studies on fluoride's effects on human health."
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    Judge Orders More Discovery In TSCA Fluoride Suit
    https://www.waterskraus.com/judge-or...fluoride-suit/
    OCTOBER 24, 2018
    "The order marks the latest in a series of potentially precedential losses the EPA has suffered in the landmark TSCA fluoride suit.

    A federal judge has ordered EPA to provide internal documents and allow plaintiffs to depose agency staff on the risks posed by fluoridation, mandates that highlight the effect of an earlier ruling allowing the plaintiffs to introduce new evidence in their landmark Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) suit rather than limiting it to the agency’s record.

    In an Oct. 4 order, Judge Edward Chen, of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, ordered EPA to release internal documents regarding its scientists’ views of a study linking fluoridation to IQ decrements, as well as ordering EPA to allow plaintiffs to depose agency staff on whether its existing fluoride standards consider neurotoxicity risks.

    The order marks the latest in a series of potentially precedential losses the agency has suffered in the landmark TSCA suit, Food & Water Watch Inc., et al, v. EPA, where environmentalists and public health groups are seeking to force EPA to grant their petition seeking to ban the practice of treating drinking water with fluoride.

    “In my view, it’s quite significant going forward … [Chen] didn’t provide any qualifications. He allowed deposition and forced EPA to search for internal documents,” the plaintiffs’ attorney, Michael Connett with Waters Kraus & Paul’s Los Angeles office, tells Inside EPA. “Even though [the order] is not technically precedential, it’s nevertheless helpful guidance for future courts” because this case is the first of its kind.

    Late last year, Chen ruled that the reformed TSCA allows citizens to petition EPA to regulate single uses of substances, a stance at odds with the agency’s position in this case, where it rejected the petition because it sought to regulate one use of fluoride, the fluoridation of drinking water for its dental benefits.

    More significantly for the latest order, Chen also ruled last February against the agency’s arguments to restrict the suit to the evidence presented in EPA’s petition denial — paving the way for a rare, de novo hearing of the petitioners’ arguments, scheduled for August 2019, where the plaintiffs are expected to offer a host of new scientific studies on the risks posed by the widely used substance.

    EPA has declined to appeal either ruling and instead has vowed to win the suit on the merits. But attorney observers say the rulings will usher in increased interest from public interest groups in filings such petitions — an action that had previously been rare, and even more rarely, if ever, challenged in court.

    Environmentalists last month filed a similar section 21 petition urging the agency to amend its Chemical Data Reporting rule to require businesses to report their uses of asbestos, an effort aimed at closing what the petitioners say is a loophole EPA created when it said the regulation does not cover asbestos because it is “naturally occurring.”

    Section 21 gives EPA 90 days to respond to such a petition. Should EPA deny the petition, or fail to respond within 90 days, the petitioners can sue the agency in federal court.

    Chen’s latest ruling broadens the evidence that plaintiffs can gather from EPA, allowing for discovery of certain internal documents and even deposition of EPA staff on certain topics.

    In his latest ruling, Chen reminds EPA that in this TSCA section 21 suit, “the Court reviews Plaintiffs’ administrative petition de novo. The EPA’s documents and correspondence relating to the specified studies are relevant to the ultimate issue the Court must decide — whether the ingestion of fluoride in drinking water causes neurotoxic harm.”

    Joint Letter

    Chen’s order responds to a joint Sept. 27 letter EPA and plaintiffs filed that details areas in which the litigants, after several months of discovery negotiations, have been unable to agree.

    For example, the plaintiffs tell Chen that they “requested EPA documents related to the first-ever” National Institutes of Health-funded study of fluoride and IQ, which was published in September 2017.

    “This much anticipated and methodologically rigorous study (which was funded, in part, by the EPA) found that fluoride ingestion during pregnancy correlates with significant and sizable IQ loss in children and thus strongly supports Plaintiffs’ position,” they say.

    The plaintiffs are seeking any internal documents that may exist of EPA scientists’ review of the study. “Internal EPA documents showing, inter alia, that EPA’s own scientists recognize the strength of this study (A) would be probative reliance material for Plaintiffs’ experts, (B) would assist the Court in assessing the testimony of EPA’s litigation experts, and (C) would help identify potential witnesses.”

    The plaintiffs argue that “[d]espite the probative value of EPA’s internal assessments of these studies, EPA has taken the sweeping position that any views of its individual scientists are wholesale irrelevant. The only documents EPA has produced, therefore, are official EPA and third-party documents that were already available in the public domain. This runs counter to the Court’s discovery ruling which permitted Plaintiffs to discover ‘evidence [that] would not have been previously available to Plaintiffs but is within the scope of the petition.’”

    EPA, however, argues that plaintiffs’ discovery “unnecessarily focuses on internal discussion and the personal opinions of agency personnel. Given the scope of discovery already defined by the Court, EPA searched for and produced responsive documents relevant to the existence of scientific studies and data rather than EPA’s interpretation of that data.”

    “Additionally, EPA flagged for Plaintiffs the potential that such requests likely impinge on EPA’s deliberative process privilege. . . . Nevertheless, Plaintiffs implicitly reflect their desire to harm the agency by attacking its credibility through compelled testimony of its own scientists.”

    Chen also ordered EPA to respond to plaintiffs’ request for a witness. Chen writes that the plaintiffs’ requests “are relevant because whether the EPA considered the neurotoxic risk of fluoride in establishing its safety standards bears on how much weight the Court should give to any EPA argument that its safety standards can be used to show what a safe level of fluoride is.”

    Chen acknowledges EPA’s “protests that the request is duplicative and not proportionate to the needs of the case because the ‘factual and scientific predicates for EPA’s denial of the petition are publicly expressed and identified in the document denying the petition.’”

    But Chen notes that “EPA has not identified any undue burden from the request, and courts have made clear that ‘the deposition process provides a means to obtain more complete information [than written responses to discovery requests] and is, therefore, favored,’” citing a 2008 case, Great Am. Ins. Co. of New York v. Vegas Const. Co., from the U.S. District Court for Nevada.

    Connett deposed EPA’s Ed Ohanian, associate director for science, on Oct. 15. As a witness in a federal rule 30(b)(6) deposition, Ohanian represents EPA and his statements are binding on the agency for purposes of the litigation, Connett says.

    Fluoride Neurotoxicity

    The plaintiffs in their letter to Chen explained they seek access to depose EPA witnesses “to clarify whether, and to what extent, EPA’s current safety standards the [maximum contaminant level goal (MCLG) in drinking water] and [reference dose (RfD), the maximum amount an individual can be estimated to ingest daily over a lifetime without experiencing noncancerous health effects] considered neurotoxicity as a potential risk of fluoride.”

    The plaintiffs add that based on information they have received, “it appears EPA’s safety standards did not meaningfully consider fluoride neurotoxicity, and, as such, cannot be used to demonstrate a neurological safe level of fluoride.”

    EPA, however, argues that “While EPA takes the position as a matter of policy that neurotoxicity is not a risk of concern at doses below those associated with the MCLG and RfD, EPA is not required to defend that policy position in this litigation.”

    “Moreover, in public documents addressing the issue which have already been provided to Plaintiffs, EPA has noted that the available data on neurotoxicity are not sufficient to assess the public health relevance to the U.S. population. Thus, Plaintiffs are unable to identify how inquiry into the MCLG for fluoride is relevant to the availability and existence of scientific studies and data necessary to demonstrate an unreasonable risk. … Plaintiffs have not provided a convincing explanation of how the disputed discovery relates to the only fact ‘of consequence’ in this litigation — whether there is scientific evidence of an unreasonable risk of injury.”

    This article originally appeared in the October 22, 2018 issue of Inside EPA." https://insideepa.com/daily-news/lat...-fluoride-suit
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    How long before people say 'no more' to the mandatory addition of a neurotoxin like Fluoride to our water?


    Quote Prenatal fluoride exposure and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) symptoms in children at 6-12 years of age in Mexico City.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    Epidemiologic and animal-based studies have raised concern over the potential impact of fluoride exposure on neurobehavioral development as manifested by lower IQ and deficits in attention. To date, no prospective epidemiologic studies have examined the effects of prenatal fluoride exposure on behavioral outcomes using fluoride biomarkers and sensitive measures of attention.
    OBJECTIVE:

    We aimed to examine the association between prenatal fluoride exposure and symptoms associated with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
    METHOD:

    213 Mexican mother-children pairs of the Early Life Exposures to Environmental Toxicants (ELEMENT) birth cohort study had available maternal urinary samples during pregnancy and child assessments of ADHD-like behaviors at age 6-12. We measured urinary fluoride levels adjusted for creatinine (MUFcr) in spot urine samples collected during pregnancy. The Conners' Rating Scales-Revised (CRS-R) was completed by mothers, and the Conners' Continuous Performance Test (CPT-II) was administered to the children.
    RESULTS:

    Mean MUFcr was 0.85 mg/L (SD = 0.33) and the Interquartile Range (IQR) was 0.46 mg/L. In multivariable adjusted models using gamma regression, a 0.5 mg/L higher MUFcr (approximately one IQR higher) corresponded with significantly higher scores on the CRS-R for DSM-IV Inattention (2.84 points, 95% CI: 0.84, 4.84) and DSM-IV ADHD Total Index (2.38 points, 95% CI: 0.42, 4.34), as well as the following symptom scales: Cognitive Problems and Inattention (2.54 points, 95% CI: 0.44, 4.63) and ADHD Index (2.47 points; 95% CI: 0.43, 4.50). The shape of the associations suggested a possible celling effect of the exposure. No significant associations were found with outcomes on the CPT-II or on symptom scales assessing hyperactivity.
    CONCLUSION:

    Higher levels of fluoride exposure during pregnancy were associated with global measures of ADHD and more symptoms of inattention as measured by the CRS-R in the offspring.

    Copyright © 2018 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.
    KEYWORDS:

    ADHD; Fluoride; Neurobehavioral; Pregnancy
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30316181

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    It seems to be a race between how quickly "they" can poison and dumb us down enough that not enough people realize how and why they are doing that, and whether enough will awaken in time to stop them from doing it!
    Certainly a race to the death, and they sure have a lot of ways of distracting people from noticing....
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    How long before people say 'no more' to the mandatory addition of a neurotoxin like Fluoride to our water?


    Quote Prenatal fluoride exposure and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) symptoms in children at 6-12 years of age in Mexico City.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    Epidemiologic and animal-based studies have raised concern over the potential impact of fluoride exposure on neurobehavioral development as manifested by lower IQ and deficits in attention. To date, no prospective epidemiologic studies have examined the effects of prenatal fluoride exposure on behavioral outcomes using fluoride biomarkers and sensitive measures of attention.
    OBJECTIVE:

    We aimed to examine the association between prenatal fluoride exposure and symptoms associated with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
    METHOD:

    213 Mexican mother-children pairs of the Early Life Exposures to Environmental Toxicants (ELEMENT) birth cohort study had available maternal urinary samples during pregnancy and child assessments of ADHD-like behaviors at age 6-12. We measured urinary fluoride levels adjusted for creatinine (MUFcr) in spot urine samples collected during pregnancy. The Conners' Rating Scales-Revised (CRS-R) was completed by mothers, and the Conners' Continuous Performance Test (CPT-II) was administered to the children.
    RESULTS:

    Mean MUFcr was 0.85 mg/L (SD = 0.33) and the Interquartile Range (IQR) was 0.46 mg/L. In multivariable adjusted models using gamma regression, a 0.5 mg/L higher MUFcr (approximately one IQR higher) corresponded with significantly higher scores on the CRS-R for DSM-IV Inattention (2.84 points, 95% CI: 0.84, 4.84) and DSM-IV ADHD Total Index (2.38 points, 95% CI: 0.42, 4.34), as well as the following symptom scales: Cognitive Problems and Inattention (2.54 points, 95% CI: 0.44, 4.63) and ADHD Index (2.47 points; 95% CI: 0.43, 4.50). The shape of the associations suggested a possible celling effect of the exposure. No significant associations were found with outcomes on the CPT-II or on symptom scales assessing hyperactivity.
    CONCLUSION:

    Higher levels of fluoride exposure during pregnancy were associated with global measures of ADHD and more symptoms of inattention as measured by the CRS-R in the offspring.

    Copyright © 2018 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.
    KEYWORDS:

    ADHD; Fluoride; Neurobehavioral; Pregnancy
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30316181
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