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    Great site dedicated to 9/11 -- Photos, Videos, etc.

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    From J Epstein's art collection now in the possession of the FBI

    Artist: Petrina Ryan Kleid



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    Hello all/ another 9/11 around the corner. I am posting this photo I took the following day . It is from the vantage point I saw, arriving right after the first plane hit the tower. I have recently listened to an online conversation and spoke to the guest Field Maconnel. I shared with him what I remember seeing from the waters edge. He told me I was the only witness he ever heard from on my believeing the second plane was grey in color .Field maintains that they were remote controlled drones.
    I remember saying to someone, hey look, a rescue plane is coming to surveil the situation. Then boom from behing the building.

    I do believe there is a growing awakening to this event as well as others unfolding before our eyes. The tragic Maui fire is contributing to waking many up.
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    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=169

    This is the link to my Avalon 9/11 photo collection. It works for me but I don't know if it works for anyone else.
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    At the very least, they allowed it to happen.

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    Norman the link works. The plane entering the building is in the sun well enought to show its not a white plane , but gray

    Flowerpunkchip/ yes, ! Cheney regarding the pentagon, the most obvious

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    Maybe I missed it, where’s a photo of a plane hitting WTC7?

    Oh, never mind. Now I remember. No plane hit WTC7. It fell into its own footprint at near free fall speed at 5:22 pm on 9/11/2001 because of a few small contents fires on a couple of floors.

    How silly of me.
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    Watched the documentary on 911 tonight and brought back all the same feelings of that day. I was in my truck looking at a job when I heard it on the radio that morning that some plane hit the world trade center. I told my buddy what stupid pilot could hit a building like that. Then the second one got hit. I like many of America didn't sleep the entire week. Kept watching the tv all night long hoping someone was alive.i remember calling the ironworkers in New York to put my name on a volunteer list to help cut up steel since I own a welding shop. I was ready to go from here in michigan.its a day all of us will never forget.god bless them all.

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    I was driving a tractor up and down a large field on September 11th 2001 trying to make sense of the only news I could catch on radio 5 live through the one only working speaker in the cab. I had no idea how bad it was until later. When I heard a tower had fallen I thought they meant some kind of radio tower on top !. I was only half listening because I had my head full of what I was doing.

    My girlfriend was running VHS tapes recording continuously from the telly. She recorded many tapes for a few days. Later I got to watch it all and take it all in.

    About 5 years later I returned to the tapes and digitised them as best I could at the time. I could do a better job now but that's not possible. I was experimenting with a video editing program called Sony Vegas and had a go at putting together an edited mix of the important bits as I judged them to be at the time.

    This little video is the result. It's not great quality but it's got some important and telling bits in it. If I was doing it now, I'd make the background music/audio track a bit quieter.


    September 11th 2001 - NEWSMIX

    https://rumble.com/v3gqpjq-september...1-newsmix.html


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    I realize all this is not new, but I am happy the X-verse has folks sharing these today




    Has this video been debunked?

    https://twitter.com/AwakenedOutlaw/s...115536449?s=20




    https://twitter.com/goddeketal/statu...370876991?s=20



    text

    Dr. Simon Goddek

    @goddeketal
    Shortly after AA77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon, the FBI confiscated all surveillance videos. In the video obtained through a lawsuit by
    @JudicialWatch
    , you can see that no plane crashed into the Pentagon, but rather a missile.

    The questions that arise for me are as follows:
    ▪️What did the US government know, and why did they bomb the Pentagon?
    ▪️What happened to AA77, especially to the people on board?
    ▪️How can people still believe the official version?


    The US elite doesn’t hesitate to harm millions of people (see Covid); why would they hesitate to kill a few thousand countrymen for “the greater good”?





    https://twitter.com/TPV_John/status/...797717993?s=20



    text


    The Patriot Voice
    @TPV_John
    A little known & often over looked FACT about what took place leading up to 9/11 is that for the prior 4 years, a group of “artists” who called themselves “E-TEAM & GELATIN (demo wiring team)” were given unfettered access to the twin towers.

    Construction access to bring WHATEVER materials in & out of the complex…7 DAYS A WEEK.


    You will NEVER hear about this in the “official 9/11 story”

    You can see them surrounded by boxes of BB-18.

    EXPLOSIVES & FUSES.

    https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@sadc...-10cc64c1ca4a3

    /////////////////

    https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status...062438095?s=20




    https://twitter.com/KAGdrogo/status/...186213316?s=20




    https://twitter.com/TaraBull808/stat...022638214?s=20




    https://twitter.com/TPV_John/status/...498726732?s=20



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    The Patriot Voice
    @TPV_John
    Here’s a story for ya…

    LUCKY Larry Silverstein, who OWNED the World Trade Center complex just happened to MISS the attacks on 9/11…

    Larry had breakfast EVERY morning at “Top Of The World” a restaurant on the very top floor of the South Tower. That morning however, Larry was SO LUCKY to miss his breakfast because he had an “appointment” that his wife was nagging him about.

    After the attack Larry made $4.55 BILLION from his insurance payout.

    LUCKY Larry must be the MOST LUCKY SOB TO EVER LIVE.

    ///////////////////////

    update: This was a big reveal - CNN reporter saw no evidence of plane while fire men were still working to put out the Pentagon fires.

    https://twitter.com/DrC_IET17/status...936633567?s=20

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    https://twitter.com/DrC_IET17/status...790989785?s=20




    https://twitter.com/chrismartenson/s...373071615?s=20




    https://twitter.com/iluminatibot/sta...384303800?s=20




    The Israeli spys that were arrested

    https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/statu...508287815?s=20

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    Quote Posted by Flowerpunkchip (here)
    At the very least, they allowed it to happen.
    LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) theory:
    You'd have to believe that Bin Laden and company gained access into Building 7 and placed all the many, many explosive charges required to take that building down at free-fall acceleration speed. The CIA had offices in the building, as did the SEC, and Judy Ruliani had a "hardened, command bunker" in the building. A mighty secure building for a gaggle of desert bedouins to infiltrate down to the steel columns, to place all the explosive charges needed to drop that building into its own footprint in 7 seconds. Professional demolitions experts have stated it would take a team of demolitions professionals weeks to do. The "dancing Israelis" and the Israeli "art students" in the Twin Towers shows me that the Mossad was involved (maybe even did the whole thing - that would be well within the M. O. of the CIA to hire thugs to do their 'wet work.')

    You'd also have to believe that Bin Laden and his merry men coincided the attack with a secret US military operation that removed most of the fighter jets from the area, and believe that these Muslim hijackers also somehow got the US Air Force to turn off NORAD for an hour and a half.

    You'd have to believe that steel and concrete skyscrapers could be standing intact one moment, and fall down at or near free-fall acceleration speed in ten seconds, from kerosene fire, and yet your backyard propane grill doesn't melt steel while it burns at a much hotter temperature.

    You'd have to believe that the kerosene fire somehow got so hot that it twisted gigantic, thick, steel beams and columns into pretzels, and even fused concrete and steel together.

    You'd have to believe that for the first time, ever, a plane crashed into the ground and was swallowed up in the ground. (Shankesville)

    You'd have to believe that a jumbo jet could do a 270 degree corkscrew maneuver like a fighter pilot in a fighter jet, at a near-ground airspeed that physics says is impossible for a jumbo jet, and then the jet floated inexplicably above the lawn and hit the Pentagon (leaving no "wing prints") where it just so happened that the Pentagon's missing 2.3 trillion dollars was being investigated.


    ...and that's just off the top of my head.


    LIHOP falls apart as a theory as the evidence is examined.


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    Bodies from the towers fell onto the Marriott aka 3WTC. At the time there was a meeting of The National Association for Business Economics (NABE). That anagrams to BANE which was a villain in Batman or BEAN that may refer to bean counters or accountants. How unusual that they were having their annual conference in the hotel on that day.

    The towers are claimed to be symbolizing Orion's belt.





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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by Flowerpunkchip (here)
    At the very least, they allowed it to happen.
    LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) theory:
    You'd have to believe that Bin Laden and company gained access into Building 7 and placed all the many, many explosive charges required to take that building down at free-fall acceleration speed. The CIA had offices in the building, as did the SEC, and Judy Ruliani had a "hardened, command bunker" in the building. A mighty secure building for a gaggle of desert bedouins to infiltrate down to the steel columns, to place all the explosive charges needed to drop that building into its own footprint in 7 seconds. Professional demolitions experts have stated it would take a team of demolitions professionals weeks to do. The "dancing Israelis" and the Israeli "art students" in the Twin Towers shows me that the Mossad was involved (maybe even did the whole thing - that would be well within the M. O. of the CIA to hire thugs to do their 'wet work.')

    You'd also have to believe that Bin Laden and his merry men coincided the attack with a secret US military operation that removed most of the fighter jets from the area, and believe that these Muslim hijackers also somehow got the US Air Force to turn off NORAD for an hour and a half.

    You'd have to believe that steel and concrete skyscrapers could be standing intact one moment, and fall down at or near free-fall acceleration speed in ten seconds, from kerosene fire, and yet your backyard propane grill doesn't melt steel while it burns at a much hotter temperature.

    You'd have to believe that the kerosene fire somehow got so hot that it twisted gigantic, thick, steel beams and columns into pretzels, and even fused concrete and steel together.

    You'd have to believe that for the first time, ever, a plane crashed into the ground and was swallowed up in the ground. (Shankesville)

    You'd have to believe that a jumbo jet could do a 270 degree corkscrew maneuver like a fighter pilot in a fighter jet, at a near-ground airspeed that physics says is impossible for a jumbo jet, and then the jet floated inexplicably above the lawn and hit the Pentagon (leaving no "wing prints") where it just so happened that the Pentagon's missing 2.3 trillion dollars was being investigated.


    ...and that's just off the top of my head.


    LIHOP falls apart as a theory as the evidence is examined.
    MIHOP is much closer to the mark than LIHOP… But even MIHOP is incomplete. The evidence of guilt has largely been destroyed and, I dare say, those actually responsible will never be brought to justice.

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://twitter.com/DrC_IET17/status...790989785?s=20

    These are both wrong and have been debunked. The first one, when the plane appears to fly behind a building, is addressed and disproven here at 11.50 is this vid from Rich Planet.

    And the "no plane" one is just a fake. The plane has been removed from the video.

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    ^Thanks for clarifying and I apologize for posting misinformation - I even thought I might be doing so but was moving along too fast to verify - again thanks for the correction!

    I will do better.
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://twitter.com/DrC_IET17/status...790989785?s=20

    These are both wrong and have been debunked. The first one, when the plane appears to fly behind a building, is addressed and disproven here at 11.50 is this vid from Rich Planet.

    And the "no plane" one is just a fake. The plane has been removed from the video.

    Attachment 51798
    Yet again Mark ,I find myself disagreeing with your proclamations of fact 🙄
    But I read this tweet from Whitney Webb talking sense , so I'll let it lie ,this time 🙃

    Among other things, today is the day of the year where almost all the people who don't believe the official 9/11 narrative argue w each other over relatively minute details and about who is more right instead of finding the common ground needed to pursue proper accountability

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    ...and that's just off the top of my head.
    One to add off the top of my head: a genuine Boeing 757, or Boeing 767, cannot fly at 400mph+ at sea level. Attempting to do so, in such dense air, would result in structural failure of the aircraft. Period. It would be ripped apart.

    Which means whatever hit the World Trade Centre (and Pentagon) travelling at these reported speeds, were not normal Boeing aircraft, so therefore not UA175, AA11, or AA77. What these planes really were is up for debate. My "guess" > pimped up, military grade lookalikes, powerful enough to fly at sea-level velocities and robust enough to inflict the damage they did, and while packed quite possibly with explosives.
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    https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1701098239930606036?s=20

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    My father-in-law (now deceased) was a United Airlines captain. He ended his long career with United by taking the longest routes in the biggest jets. Just before his retirement in 1990, along with my ex-wife and family members, I got a tour of a jumbo jet cockpit. If I remember correctly, it was a Boeing 767, but might have been a 747 (he flew both, and the 757 as well.) The 'dashboard' and ceiling of the cockpit looked like something out of a bad sci-fy movie set, with a ridiculous amount of gauges, switches, knobs, and screens. We were all stunned at how anyone could manage to know which switch to flip, and which gauge to check, and which monitor to watch, to fly the jet. But the most stunning revelation to me was being told about the ability to take off and land automatically. He told us that he could input ORD (Chicago's O'Hare airport, where we were) as the starting point, and could type-in, say, SFO (San Francisco), and the jet could take off from Chicago and land in San Francisco automatically. He expressed that he didn't really like doing it - he would much rather just fly the jet manually - but was required by United to use the autopilot feature periodically. Again, that was 1990, eleven years before 9/11.

    In looking up some info to make this post (for example, I pulled up his obituary to pinpoint the retirement year), I ran across this statement, on flightdeckfriend.com
    "Can a plane take-off automatically?

    No. Commercial passenger jets are not able to take-off automatically. Currently, no commercial aircraft has an auto take-off capability.

    To dispel the myth; the vast majority of commercial aircraft (including all Boeing’s and Airbus’) have no automatic take-off capability. All take-offs must be completed manually by the pilots with the autopilot usually engaged at around 1,000 ft above the ground."
    It is possible that I misunderstood what my father-in-law had said, and it does make sense to me that the pilot would need to manually control backing up from a terminal and maneuvering around the tarmac and other jets to get to the runway safely, but my father-in-law had clearly said that the jet not only could take off automatically, but he gave the 3-letter airport-to-airport example. He did not say that autopilot was engaged after a manual take-off.

    I include this because there are still people that don't believe that commercial jets used on 9/11/2001 could be remote-controlled. Yes, they could. ("Autoland" isn't disputed, but according to that article noted above, auto-takeoff is.)

    Fast forward to shortly after 9/11/2001, when my father-in-law saw the hole in the Pentagon, and, obviously stunned, said aloud, "That wasn't a 757. I don't know what that was, but it wasn't a 757." He later recanted, having been brainwashed into NOT believing his own eyes, but here was an experienced Air Force and commercial pilot who had flown 757's, and he instantly knew that was not what hit the Pentagon.

    This may not be adding much to the discussion, but it is my testimony of a United Airlines captain's words.


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