Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed?

[observer]

Posted by Agape (here)
I'm sure they have super sensitive recording equipment installed in the tunnel and if they ever achieved breakthrough to another dimension they could see , perhaps , clear picture of the other reality .

Posted by ghostrider (here)
there is even more tiny particles they have yet to discover , Cern is just a tool to get there ... no doubt they will use it for weapons and other purposes ... the danger is humanity is not spiritually advanced enough to handle greater power , look what they did with nuclear technology ...

Thanks Agape for pointing-out that this experiment into insanity is scheduled to reboot in the near future.

As for the part of ghostrider's quote that I highlighted, above, this sounds to me more of the same old mantra: "....just go back to sleep, everything will be O.K. at the Bright New Dawn".

The point of the OP is to look into what is actually being developed at CERN.

It is my personal hypothesis this technology is a mirror image of what caused the mass extinction of the Human Species in great antiquity. This Mass extinction is documented in mythological records from around the globe. There is no doubt something other than a mythological God caused this event to occur.

Is that which we shall all agree to call, "The Break-Away Civilization", on the cusp of "Playing God", yet again???

Is the Human Race ready for this???

Is there anything the Mass of Humanity can do to stop it???

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...weapon_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time

... Calvin tells them that they are from earth, a “shadowed planet” and that they are here trying to fight the Black Thing

planet turns out to be controlled by an evil disembodied brain with powerful telepathic abilities, which the inhabitants of Camazotz call "IT"

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

IBM's conscious involvement—directly and through its subsidiaries—in the Holocaust

Only after Jews were identified -- a massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately -- could they be targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no computer existed.

But IBM's Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company's custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith systems, Hitler was able to automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor.

IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by one, anticipating the Reich's needs. They did not merely sell the machines and walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed.

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/s...berg-and-bohr/

“It was from September 1941 that we saw an open road ahead of us, leading to the atomic bomb.”

– Werner Heisenberg

http://home.web.cern.ch/about/comput...computing-grid

[ghostrider]

it is very dangerous to explore the building blocks of life without really knowing what your doing , who know what could happen if they have an accident at the facility ... a meteor impact , an earthquake , sinkhole , magnetic storm from the sun , or a terrorist attack , or a thunderstorm roll in while they are online ... some technology can't just be turned off as they found with the WTC ...

[observer]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...weapon_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time

Thanks for the links, WTC, I took the liberty to appropriate one of them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke) and added it to my comment #13

[observer]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
it is very dangerous to explore the building blocks of life without really knowing what your doing , who know what could happen if they have an accident at the facility ... a meteor impact , an earthquake , sinkhole , magnetic storm from the sun , or a terrorist attack , or a thunderstorm roll in while they are online ... some technology can't just be turned off as they found with the WTC ...

I agree with you completely to this regard, ghost, when looking at the situation through this filter.

We are not talking about "reasonable" scientific investigation, however. This project is a run-away freight train headed down a path to ultimate destruction. What reasonable scientific investigation would ever consider such a path? We are dealing with out-of-control-psychopaths - this is the only plausible explanation.

Look at who is funding this project. Follow the money, it always leads to the kingpin.

So, I ask again, is the Mass of Humanity ready for this?

[observer]

....observer wanders-off into this desolate landscape looking for conclusive links to the "Follow The Money" Theme....

[Agape]

...and how much did all their corporative lies costed already , how many human lives ..

all you can hear these days is ''how much it costs' , time and money to allow the truth surface , to investigate , research what we have , yes , there'll be more poured to countless empty attempts to fix one technical gadget no matter its calibre while it's 'on course' and the reality of physics and events between this world and another remain abandoned . Vis the other thread ..

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post904283

the amount of conspiracies seems to be enormous but if one asks the same people to evaluate real time data , they claim no time and money , and perhaps 'no expertise' and moreover no 'beliefs' as if beliefs were all they're having .

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U-NHJffUIIo

The Purusha Suktam - said to be one of the core cosmological hymns of the Vedas ,

http://www.greenmesg.org/mantras_slo...sha_suktam.php

with the 'ultimate order' of Universe being hidden in the verses

with multi-leveled meaning to them .


The sutra explains not only the ;right order' of creation but also how at the pinnacle of the process the priests ( read , todays 'scientists' ) offered the truth ( of physical reality ) to the sacrificial fire ( the power of transformative capacity of energy ) and thus .. as result of the correctly performed sacrifice obtained 'immortality' .

Yajnyena Yajnyam-Ayajanta Devaas-Taani Dharmaanni Prathamaanya[i-A]asan |
Te Ha Naakam Mahimaanah Sa-Canta Yatra Puurve Saadhyaah Santi Devaah ||16||

This way the ancient seers pointed out to the existence of such transformative energy of the highest order that can ultimately reverse natural decay of elements and make the seemingly impossibly to happen .. restart of creative resonance ...

All depending of course , on the correct understanding of the order ... physical laws .


The truth have been kept so well hidden that it needs to be rediscovered ... each time I suppose . Before they come to that threshold and either they burry it again or ..

what survives is the memory , collective memory and the warning .

[gripreaper]

Posted by observer (here)
....observer wanders-off into this desolate landscape looking for conclusive links to the "Follow The Money" Theme....

Ha, the quintessential rabbit hole with no bottom, eh?

Well, let's have a little fun with this, some of it what we know, and most of it abject speculation! Pre-911. the day before actually, Rumsfeld announces to Congress that they can't account for 2.3 trillion for the current fiscal year, and then... KABOOM! Whoopsie daisy, the evidence is tragically lost on 9-11, and therefore cannot be audited. Who could have imagined that the very next day, some rogue terrorists would fly planes into buildings! No one ever imagined that before, right? What a coincidence!

But that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to rogue financing, accounting shenanigans, and covert economies. You can't just go up to a bankster and say, hey buddy, we need about 8 to 10 trillion a year to fund our secret space program, and we will need to funnel quite a bit of this into the global surface economies so that we can get the slaves to build stuff for us, and we need to do this unnoticed. You can't just put up your stellar craft you use to fly to Mars, as collateral, and balance the books. There really are no books.

Yet, having studied how negotiable instruments work and how they are granted and how they enter commerce, I have some idea. For example, if you want a house, you "grant" a negotiable instrument to the bank via your signature, which gives it life, and that promissory note becomes a draft which is deposited into an account as a credit, where it becomes money, and the opposite side of the ledger needs to show a liability against that credit in order for the books to balance. This new money is set up with usury, a maturity date, and is tracked via CUSIP# Federal Reserve databases, until it's eventual expiration and retirement.

So, if you want to generate trillions out of thin air, the ability for the surface economy to absorb these dollars is limited, so you must extract them from the surface economy as well, and retire them, while robbing the surface economy of it's resources to fund your operations. It's quite elaborate, yet the "balance" on the surface ledger, or the "offset" as it is often called, is a derivatives bubble that is ten times the gross GDP of the entire planet. This gives you some idea of the massiveness of this gargantuan underground hole of money disappearing, and what we are left with on the surface, nothing but hot air in a derivatives bubble.

But, that is still not enough. One must extract from this economy, through drugs, the courts and prison system, and through all manner of wars, imperialistic confiscation of resources, and debt, in order to indenture an entire planet to build your covert "Breakaway" agenda.

I would estimate that the dollar amounts are in excess of 10 trillion a year, for a total in excess of 10 quadrillion. Kind of hard to absorb all of that or to hide it, which is why some of the ancient families who's heritage spans thousands of years, are not happy with the rape and pillage by these alien interlopers.

How we deal with it, in my humble opinion, is to load them up in their spaceships, exile them from ever returning to earth, have a global debt jubilee, release the free energy technology, get rid of all the institutions and lies holding the current paradigm in place, and start over in a new age of sovereignty.

Pretty radical, I know, but redressing the emperor in new clothes and parading him out into the square with the idea that he is all brand new, wont fly this time, I hope.

[observer]

Posted by observer (here)
....observer wanders-off into this desolate landscape looking for conclusive links to the "Follow The Money" Theme....

Thanks once again, grip, for chiming-in.

I wrote that comment #26 with the hope in my heart someone, with your financial acumen, would come forward and offer some explanation to an extremely complex issue - that of the Trail of Money.

What I know about the International Banking Network - excluding the footprint of these reptile priest-cult bankers into antiquity - would begin with those international bankers who financed the Third Reich.

• After the Nazis raped Europe of unimaginable wealth, and around the fall of Hitler, Martin Bormann spirited a good portion of this booty away, most likely to a diversity of locations.
• When Prince Bernhard, a known Nazi Operative, convened the first Bilderberg Group meeting he did it to pawn-off the Nazi booty to the international bankers at Bormann's direction. The Bilderberg Group is membered exclusively by agents of the International Banking Network. Currently, all the members are under the spell of the hyperdimensional Reptoids in charge.(#)
• As that Nazi wealth strengthened the power of specific international banking networks, those banks continued their centuries-long agenda to intensify their control of economies, politics, media, militaries, etc. to the conclusion grip has outlined in his comment #28.
• In the end, the bankers got just what they paid for.
• It is this occult trail of finance that has been used to fund this Break-Away Civilization we are investigating, here.

The combination of both these explanations is a "nut shell" synopsis of the Trail of Money.

(#) Dare I mention the Reptoids

[heyokah]

Time to this thread, as it con-CERN-s us all.

Posted by gripreaper (here)

How we deal with it, in my humble opinion, is to load them up in their spaceships, exile them from ever returning to earth, have a global debt jubilee, release the free energy technology, get rid of all the institutions and lies holding the current paradigm in place, and start over in a new age of sovereignty.

No problem, I could do that.

[heyokah]

Being a pragmatic woman, I will give some background info about CERN and LHC, for the members that haven't given themselves the time to get into this.

The Large Hadron Collider is the largest and most complex scientific instrument ever built and the highest energy particle accelerator in the world.
The accelerator is located 100 m underground and runs through both French and Swiss territory. ( 27km circumference)

This video gives a good impression about how the LHC works.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQNpucos9wc

- In 1952, eleven European countries came together to form the European Council for Nuclear Research (Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire in French, which gave it the acronym CERN).
Two years later in 1954 it was renamed the European Organization for Nuclear Research, which would've given it the French name of Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire or the acronym OERN). Nobody liked "OERN", so the acronym CERN stuck.

- The World Wide Web was started by CERN employees Sir Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau before this whole LHC business got started.

- The Large Hadron Collider is nearly 40 years in the making/repairing and costs the member countries of CERN and other participating countries an estimated €4.6 billion (about US$ 6.4 billion).
Extra things like detectors, computing capacity, and extra 'warranty' cost an extra €1.43 billion.
It's estimated that the yearly energy cost of running the LHC is €19 million.

- To prepare for the deluge of data, CERN built the Worldwide LHC Computing Grid - sort of a super-fast, private Internet connecting some 80,000 computers to analyze the data

- After the shutdown in February 2013, the LHC will be operating at much higher beam energy when it restarts in April 2015.

So far, the LHC has run at 8 TeV (tera electron Volts). That’s the “E” (Energy). During this next run, the “E” will be 13 TeV.

If CERN was able to uncover the elusive Higgs boson in 2012 with only half the energy its Large Hadron Collider is capable of, why does it need so much more energy for its next set of experiments?

[Operator]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
I admit to being puzzled to how CERN managed to convince EU governments to supply large sums of money from organizations which probably employ people without any basic physics knowledge, and the science would have gone right over their heads, yet they still paid up. It must have been one hell of a Powerpoint presentation!

While we on the subject of CERN, didn't Simon Parkes say last year that some alien group had to build an even bigger one by 2015? That's next year!

This seems an odd thing for Simon to say as it's not something you could hide the construction of in Europe. As the the first one took about five years to build, it would take at least that long to build a bigger one. Has it been started yet? Does anyone know anyone who is involved with its construction? Have they managed to smuggle in the atomic-powered tunnelling machines? Even if they have, where are the lorry loads of construction materials and technical equipment? Where is the evidence?

Nick

Good point ...
I thought I'd read something about a new collider in Japan but can't find it anymore.

However, my search revealed something else that I didn't know before.

Just type in "new collider 2015" in Google and you will find dozens of article like the one below.

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the largest and most powerful particle accelerator in the world, has started to get ready for its second three-year run. Cool down of the vast machine has already begun in preparation for research to resume early in 2015 following a long technical stop to prepare the machine for running at almost double the energy of run 1. The last LHC magnet interconnection was closed on 18 June 2014 and one sector of 1/8 of the machine has already been cooled to operating temperature. The accelerator chain that supplies the LHC’s particle beams is currently starting up, with beam in the Proton Synchrotron accelerator last Wednesday for the first time since 2012.
---

More at: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/update...start-schedule


The Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its second three-year run (Image: CERN)

[heyokah]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
I admit to being puzzled to how CERN managed to convince EU governments to supply large sums of money from organizations which probably employ people without any basic physics knowledge, and the science would have gone right over their heads, yet they still paid up. It must have been one hell of a Powerpoint presentation!

While we on the subject of CERN, didn't Simon Parkes say last year that some alien group had to build an even bigger one by 2015? That's next year!

This seems an odd thing for Simon to say as it's not something you could hide the construction of in Europe. As the the first one took about five years to build, it would take at least that long to build a bigger one. Has it been started yet? Does anyone know anyone who is involved with its construction? Have they managed to smuggle in the atomic-powered tunnelling machines? Even if they have, where are the lorry loads of construction materials and technical equipment? Where is the evidence?

Nick

Good point ...
I thought I'd read something about a new collider in Japan but can't find it anymore.

However, my search revealed something else that I didn't know before.

Just type in "new collider 2015" in Google and you will find dozens of article like the one below.

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the largest and most powerful particle accelerator in the world, has started to get ready for its second three-year run. Cool down of the vast machine has already begun in preparation for research to resume early in 2015 following a long technical stop to prepare the machine for running at almost double the energy of run 1. The last LHC magnet interconnection was closed on 18 June 2014 and one sector of 1/8 of the machine has already been cooled to operating temperature. The accelerator chain that supplies the LHC’s particle beams is currently starting up, with beam in the Proton Synchrotron accelerator last Wednesday for the first time since 2012.
---

More at: http://home.web.cern.ch/about/update...start-schedule


The Large Hadron Collider is being prepared for its second three-year run (Image: CERN)

Have a look at this article.

"Some of the world's greatest minds have collided in Vancouver and agreed to build a new US$7.78-billion particle collider that will help answer some of the universe's deepest secrets."

Japan is mentioned.

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/physi...#ixzz3Ju5vQw3Z

UPDATE

And here's even more about Japan.

....the International Linear Collider (a large collider that is currently being built in Japan and is expected to pick up where the LHC left off),

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/t...dron-collider/

[Operator]

Posted by observer (here)
---

---

Yep, the 666 makes it sinister to say the least.

I never thought that much about the Shiva character but the way it is portrayed above stimulates all kind of thoughts:

- a character stepping through a star gate
- the outer circle looks like a sun or ... star
- the multiple arms remind of the 'spokes' in Nostradamus' drawings

Add that to other provoking thoughts about the sun (star):
- the sun is electrical in nature not nuclear
- the corona is hotter than the surface
- The sun has no body, it's just a corona
(that's mind boggling because then what creates its mass?)

A big wow for me if this all would be true !

[Operator]

Posted by heyokah (here)
---
And here's even more about Japan.

(a large collider that is currently being built in Japan and is expected to pick up where the LHC left off),

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/t...dron-collider/

Somebody mentioned Atlantis in this thread ... isn't there a prophecy/prediction that Japan will sink in the sea too?

[observer]

Why don't we all make believe we are a group of geniuses, convened in a think-tank, hired by the Global Elite Bankers, and run a War Game Scenario on what we believe is happening here.

For an example:

Why does the Mass of Humanity need all these LHCs, and VLHCs?
What possible purpose could punching all those holes into the fabric of the Space/Time Continuum serve?
And, most importantly, Cui Bono - to whose benefit?

Best answer wins a shot at grabbing the golden ring....

[heyokah]

Posted by observer (here)
Why don't we all make believe we are a group of geniuses, convened in a think-tank, hired by the Global Elite Bankers, and run a War Game Scenario on what we believe is happening here.

For an example:

Why does the Mass of Humanity need all these LHCs, and VLHCs?
What possible purpose could punching all those holes into the fabric of the Space/Time Continuum serve?
And, most importantly, Cui Bono - to whose benefit?

Best answer wins a shot at grabbing the golden ring....

OK, let's call our group WWBHH (What We Believe is Happening Here), just as creative as those scientists with their VLHC.
As was said in the link I gave:

What clever name did scientists come up with for this new collider? The Very Large Hadron Collider (VLHC). Let the wittiness of that name wash over you.

[genevieve]

Here's a different slant on CERN from Andrew Bartzis, the Galactic Historian.

In this 8-minute recording he states, among other things:

- It's a dimensional teleport system to import a belief system that has an AI behind it and is linked to the dreaming mind of another planet.

- It's meant to make you believe that reality functions differently.

- It broadcasts belief systems around the galaxy and is a tool for domination and control on Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJsD...y6oZU17BdyPXsP


I've been listening to his broadcasts for 8 months and find him and his info fascinating, but sometimes, as in the case of this info about CERN, I can barely wrap my mind around it and would be glad for any help in understanding what he's saying. Anyone?


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

While you are discussing Japan, please read about "Stein's Gate" --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steins;Gate

Steins;Gate takes place in the Akihabara district of Tokyo. On July 28, 2010, Rintarō Okabe and his friend Mayuri Shiina head towards the Radio Kaikan building for a conference, where Rintarō finds a girl named Kurisu Makise lying in a pool of blood.[35] As Rintarō sends a text message about the incident to his friend, Itaru "Daru" Hashida, he experiences a strange phenomenon and the people around him disappear, with no-one else noticing anything had changed.[36] After later running into Kurisu, who is strangely alive and well, and discovering the message he had sent to Itaru had arrived a week before he sent it,[37][38] Rintarō soon deduces that the 'Mobile Microwave' he and his friends had been developing is, in fact, a time machine capable of sending text messages to the past.[16][39] He and his friends soon learn that SERN, an organization that has been researching time travel for some time, has actually succeeded in sending humans into the past although they seem to have all resulted in the test subjects' deaths. Rintarō begins experimenting with "D-Mails" (Dメール D mēru?, short for DeLorean mail), which begin to cause major differences in the timeline. Kurisu also manages to create a device to send a person's memories through the microwave, allowing that person to effectively leap into the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Rift

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echthroi

A personification of the forces of impersonalization and nihilism,[2] they exist in both the macrocosmic and microcosmic level, counteracted principally by what L'Engle refers to as "Naming"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_and_Reality

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

http://www.icr.org/meaning-in-life/

Humans in particular seek a "reason to exist" and for the most part find it difficult to accept that we are simply here to consume the earth's resources and die.

[Harley]

Hi Folks,

Just to add a little more food for thought to this thread:

Because of a few of the theories commented upon here, there is an article I posted four years ago which seemed to go largely unnoticed at the time but may be of a little more interest now in this thread.


US To Strap Anti-Matter, Anti-Universe Detector To ISS

Excerpts (Highlights are mine):

* ISS Searches For Dark Matter, Anti-Universe

* The Alpha Magnetics Spectrometer will be taken aboard the last US space shuttle flight to the ISS in February

* THE US Air Force has taken delivery of a $2 billion antimatter detector destined to catch the last scheduled space shuttle flight in February 2011.

* The Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer would be docked to the International Space Station to collect evidence of antimatter, dark matter and other phenomena over the next 20 years.

* The AMS detector will complement CERN's Large Hadron Collider

* Antimatter, which the device was primarily designed to find, is sometimes referred to as the evil twin of ordinary matter and scientists believe the Big Bang created both in equal amounts - meaning that, in theory, there should be an identical universe to ours out there made entirely of antimatter.

* The Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer, which took about 15 years to build and was part-funded by the US Department of Energy, will be one of two payloads carried to the space station on Endeavour STS-134, NASA's last shuttle mission scheduled for February 26, 2011.


And now, let's go from really big to really small:

The World’s Most Advanced Particle Accelerator Is Just 12 Inches Long And Sits On A Lab Bench In The US

EXTREMETECH
November 6, 2014



“Go big or go home” might be the unofficial motto of the United States — but in the case of the world’s newest and most advanced particle accelerator, that’s certainly not the case. The new plasma wakefield accelerator, constructed at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory in California, is just 12 inches long — or about 90,000 times smaller than CERN’s 17-mile-long Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland.

As you probably know, particle accelerators are usually very large. It’s not that we want to spend billions of dollars boring out a 17-mile tunnel deep underground (or even longer, in the case of some new accelerators that are being considered at the moment). It’s not like we choose to spend billions more creating a vacuum tube in that tunnel, wrapping it in superconducting electromagnets, and cryogenically freezing the whole thing. It’s just that, until now, that was the only way we knew how to reliably accelerate protons and electrons to close to the speed of light.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=epQnJiJWjdg

According to SLAC, there’s another method of particle acceleration that’s much more efficient, and can thus be used to build massive accelerators that are orders of magnitude more powerful — or alternatively, much smaller, lab-sized accelerators. The technology is called plasma wakefield acceleration — and, despite how awesomely complex it sounds, it’s actually fairly self-explanatory.

Basically, instead of a big vacuum tube, you have a container filled with plasma — usually a super-heated, very diluted gas (such as hydrogen). Then, y pulsing a laser, you can create a bunch of ionized electrons that travel through the plasma — and then you pulse the laser again to produce another bunch, which gathers energy from the wake of the first bunch… and so on, until you have a powerful particle accelerator. [Research paper: doi:10.1038/nature13882]