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    I have to say I thought I was alone except for my family in what we experienced until I read this post and I've saw what people have wrote and felt.

    I remember moving back from abroad to come back home and help my mum with my dad, I left everything behind, my business ,my girlfriend at the time, my life indeed in its entirety , I just made decision that my life was on hold from now as soon as I got the news, I remember sleeping in airports to make the earliest possible flight connections to get back home as fast as I could, I thought the condition could be contained and slowed but I was just plain wrong as I didn't fully understand it.

    Its hard to explain to people that have never cared for someone they love with the condition just how it feels.
    One of the things that sticks with me is the inability to switch off, it feels like you are watching out for someone even while you sleep so you cant have a really good deep sleep and disengage, but on the other hand you don't really want to disengage as you don't want anything to happen to them.

    Sometimes its so hard to think of what happened and the way he went as it seemed to happen in stages, like stepping down a flight of stairs, the thing that I found it hard to deal with and still do. Is how fast it happened and how fast he deteriorated , from being able to play 4 musical instruments to what happened just makes me sad and angry at the same time as I saw how it affected him, he explained it as a fog and a head ache that came upon him that made him sensitive to noise or narration, and also a feeling of being locked in and not being able to find the words to express himself, it actually kills me to think that he expressed this in the beginning and then seeing how bad he got and that he was still feeling this to a much greater degree.

    Also when I use to have him in a dream and talk to him then wake up for him not to be with us anymore was so disappointing for a long time, now when he is in a dream I cant bring myself to say much more than a hello as I feel he is gone, I then ask my family in the dream ,how is he here, and they just look at me, its like I'm not quite up to speed with that's happening and they are, its like he's keeping an eye on me, am I alone in having these kinds of dreams if you don't mind me asking.

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    No you are not alone in having these types of dreams. Perhaps you have not fully accepted his death yet. Maybe it is too painful right now to do so. Like a form of denial. It is your way of coping. Everyone grieves differently. It will come with time.

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    Alzheimer's = Diabetes typ "3" - its a basically a high glucose problem.

    The problem with Alzheimer's is the growing amount of amylo-plack in the brain - and in a healthy person it is normally removed by IDE (Insulin-degrading enzyme). IDE have two purposes, to lower insulin levels in blood and remove plack.
    The problem is if you have to much insulin in your blood (= you have to much glucos) The IDE cant do the job removing the plack.

    Check this reserch:
    Insulin-degrading enzyme: a link between Alzheimer's and type 2 diabetes mellitus.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24059320


    And maybe check this video
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    if you want to reverse alzheimers or senile dementia in a person you know there are many things that can be done. here are some:

    - change their diet. remove most carbs and add fats, primarily saturated fats (coconut oil is excellent)
    - expose their entire body to the sun and let them look into the sun in the morning and evening (no glasses, no sunscreen, no "protection")
    - reduce exposure to electric and magnetic fields as much as possible
    - make sure they don't use any form of wireless technology
    - have them do physical exercise and mental exercise regularly and interchangeably
    - clean their elimination channels (colon, kidneys, skin, lungs) - there are many different ways to do this - this is vital
    - make sure they drink lots of pure water
    - optimize their digestion (right food for their metabolic type, no sugar or processed foods)
    - have them take a few drops of iodine (lugol's solution) daily

    if you want to check on the reversal process control their irides. there will probably be a sclerotic ring in the upper part or it will be blurred or there will be radial creases from near the pupil upwards to the top area of the iris. all these are signs of brain degeneration - lack of oxygen in the brain or calcification of blood vessels or accumulation of toxins and metabolic end products that haven't been removed. any of these things can be the cause for mental degeneration and the things in the above list will help to reduce/eliminate them.

    it takes time to reverse this condition. don't expect immediate signs of improvement. the condition developed over decades, it won't be reversed in a week. that doesn't mean these things don't do their job. they do.
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    Default Re: Caring for relatives with Alzheimer's : the modern curse of the elderly

    That's interesting, Truth. I know diets in facilities are not optimal. They have guidelines to follow, with trying to keep everything balanced, and addressing particular dietary needs, but the stuff is still purchased in bulk from food service warehouses. And it's cooked in bulk due to population needs. And dietary staff is understaffed, just like nursing.

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    something else to keep in mind - the physical is the plane of reaction. the causes of brain diseases are mental. it's basically an accumulation of blockages from the mental body "downward" through the astral (emotional) to the physical body.

    what that means is the people who get these diseases remove themselves more and more from the perception of physical reality because of the things that happened in their past which they could not process. each time we can't deal with something a blockage is created. if they're not removed they accumulate, like stones falling into a river that eventually create a dam. these blockages are what creates disease, and with brain diseases you could say that these people don't want to be here anymore because of all the bad stuff they lived through which they still carry around.

    something similar but developed differently is autism. the children practically remove themselves from physical reality, only it happens suddenly, not slowly over decades. it can be due to blockages created in this life or residues from previous incarnations (if they're born that way). in order to heal, the blockages that are responsible for the physical condition need to be removed. since this has to do with resonance (like shaking loose the stones and pebbles that created the dam) the best and easiest means to use is the one that offers the full spectrum of frequencies - the sun.
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    No offense truth, but life ain't that simple. I'm sure in some cases your theory applies, but not across the board.

    Patty was the most joyful, life-loving person I've ever known. Sure she's had bad things happen to her, as we all have, but she definitely didn't choose to check out because it was too much to deal with.

    You know, I'm always suspicious of folks that speak with complete authority on a subject. The longer I live, and learn, and look, and question, the more I've come to realize the most honest answer I can give is, "I don't know". I have thoughts, ideas, suggestions, clues, etc., but "know"? If I'm honest, I realize I don't.

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    Default Re: Caring for relatives with Alzheimer's : the modern curse of the elderly

    I agree with Joe. Truth's theory might apply in some cases, but I don't think it's a blanket explanation. I don't know anyone who doesn't have some baggage from the past. Maybe this life, maybe another life. It doesn't mean that it shuts them down. The genetics of alzheimers and autism are still being figured out. There isn't a one size fits all explanation for them.

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    I believe my grandmother is starting to show signs of dementia. I'm not sure if it's alzheimers or not. She's 95. I plan on spending as much time as I can with her. It pains me to know that she can no longer remember recipes or do things she usually does.

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    You know, I read a line posted by gripreaper on another thread today....."Fear and love cannot share the same space, the same time...", not a new or unfamiliar thought, but one that's important to keep in mind.

    I've been thinking about Patty and alzheimers lately and find that the most pertinent fact of her condition these days is... that she is still a beautiful soul! She lives totally in the now these days, there is no past and no future, only now. And if you can meet here there and join her there, there is still joy and laughter and beauty and love.

    Her ability to understand and interpret her surroundings, when things come at her suddenly, or loudly can frighten her. She can be easily moved to fear. But if she is shown love, and peace, and simple beauty she moves just as quickly to the place of love and beauty. She harbors no anger, resentment or grudges. She walks in beauty, and it feeds my soul, and reminds me of what is important.

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    Quote Posted by Joe Sustaire (here)
    You know, I read a line posted by gripreaper on another thread today....."Fear and love cannot share the same space, the same time...", not a new or unfamiliar thought, but one that's important to keep in mind.

    I've been thinking about Patty and alzheimers lately and find that the most pertinent fact of her condition these days is... that she is still a beautiful soul! She lives totally in the now these days, there is no past and no future, only now. And if you can meet here there and join her there, there is still joy and laughter and beauty and love.

    Her ability to understand and interpret her surroundings, when things come at her suddenly, or loudly can frighten her. She can be easily moved to fear. But if she is shown love, and peace, and simple beauty she moves just as quickly to the place of love and beauty. She harbors no anger, resentment or grudges. She walks in beauty, and it feeds my soul, and reminds me of what is important.
    Joe, that’s beautiful! It’s a timely reminder for us all.

    FYI: Gripreaper’s post on “Let us choose love” found here.

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    No offense truth, but life ain't that simple. I'm sure in some cases your theory applies, but not across the board.

    Patty was the most joyful, life-loving person I've ever known. Sure she's had bad things happen to her, as we all have, but she definitely didn't choose to check out because it was too much to deal with.

    You know, I'm always suspicious of folks that speak with complete authority on a subject. The longer I live, and learn, and look, and question, the more I've come to realize the most honest answer I can give is, "I don't know". I have thoughts, ideas, suggestions, clues, etc., but "know"? If I'm honest, I realize I don't.
    actually creation functions in a very simple manner, by very simple rules, as does the development of souls "downwards" into the physical and back "upwards" out of the physical. the understanding (still not complete but i'm working on it) came to me quite naturally thanks to some help from the sun, among other things.

    we're all on our own path, though, so if you want to see life as more complicated that's fine. i know it isn't and i'm able to explain to myself things like diseases, accidents, deaths, miracles, saints, archons, possession, people who can live without physical food and others. they're all tied together. one of the common denominators are blockages. we all have them, most of them are acted on or circumvented unconsciously - they form our personality (which can appear very kind and loving because of certain blockages), and the more of them one removes the more consciousness expands, understanding grows and healing takes place. the extent to which we create our very own reality is quite impressive. no blockages - no diseases, no food or clothing needed, no fear, no accidents, no death, in fact not even a physical body of any kind is needed unless required for a certain purpose. some people call it christ consciousness. it's actually an unblocked connection to our higher self which, at the highest point, is the creator of all, and even at lower levels is quite powerful, illusion or not.

    btw, a theory that is correct applies in all cases and a wrong theory in none. there's no law that governs only a part of creation unless it's one created by man.
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    Default Re: Caring for relatives with Alzheimer's : the modern curse of the elderly

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    Thank you... but this is not actually pertinent on this thread. Your metaphysical views are [genuinely] most welcome elsewhere. Here, we're sharing the stresses and challenges — and occasional joys! — of caring for loved ones with this terrible condition. Hence the chosen title of the thread. Thanks.


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    Quote Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
    I believe my grandmother is starting to show signs of dementia. I'm not sure if it's alzheimers or not. She's 95. I plan on spending as much time as I can with her. It pains me to know that she can no longer remember recipes or do things she usually does.


    Humble Janitor, I find it sweet and very touching that you appreciate your grandmother the way you do. Please make sure that she knows how you feel, although, I suspect she aready does.

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    Quote Posted by Joe Sustaire (here)
    You know, I read a line posted by gripreaper on another thread today....."Fear and love cannot share the same space, the same time...", not a new or unfamiliar thought, but one that's important to keep in mind.

    I've been thinking about Patty and alzheimers lately and find that the most pertinent fact of her condition these days is... that she is still a beautiful soul! She lives totally in the now these days, there is no past and no future, only now. And if you can meet here there and join her there, there is still joy and laughter and beauty and love.

    Her ability to understand and interpret her surroundings, when things come at her suddenly, or loudly can frighten her. She can be easily moved to fear. But if she is shown love, and peace, and simple beauty she moves just as quickly to the place of love and beauty. She harbors no anger, resentment or grudges. She walks in beauty, and it feeds my soul, and reminds me of what is important.
    Hello, Joe, thank you so much for sharing, by your stories of yourself and Patty, it is evident that you both walk in content and loving feeling, and the energy flowing is well felt from your words and lightly move on forwards, no blockages : )

    Thanks for feeding our soul and reminding us of what is important ~

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    Quote Posted by Joe Sustaire (here)
    You know, I read a line posted by gripreaper on another thread today....."Fear and love cannot share the same space, the same time...", not a new or unfamiliar thought, but one that's important to keep in mind.
    I lost my sister and father 2 days apart in November of 2002. My sister had pancreas cancer and my father had colon cancer and advanced heart disease. I provided a large part of their primary care during the 2 years prior to their deaths.

    I'm not sure someone is ever the same after experiencing something like that. Sometimes I feel so disappointed in myself for not doing things better or in a different way. Sometimes I am kinder to myself and am very proud of myself for stepping up and doing what was called for at the time no matter the cost. Mostly I know that they were beautiful souls and deserved the very best the universe had to offer and I surely fell short of that. But it's okay because I really did do the very best I could.

    There is so much wisdom in the above quote for a caregiver, or even just someone who will be spending time with someone who is in the last phase of this life's journey. “Fear and love cannot share the same space, the same time...” If we are feeling afraid, we can't be feeling (and sharing) love with the friend or family member we are caring for or visiting. I'm surprised to think back and realize how often I felt fear while caring for my family members.

    My husband and his family are struggling through the heartbreak of his mother experiencing the last stages of Alzheimer’s. I am going to share that quote with them and also your posts if you don't mind Joe. You are so right that there is much to be thankful for in the now.

    Much love and strength to all who have shared.

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    I lost my mother a year ago to Alzheimer's or Dementia..... My mother is 93 years old and it kills me because I lost my best friend. When I had problems she was who I confided in. Now I just visit her at my son's house and she talks about her pet kiddy mostly. I'll watch TV with her and we'll watch a show and the next day that same show will be on and she'll say I've never seen this one, not remembering we just watched it the day before. She gets real angry when I tell her she has forgotten something.

    While searching the net I came across a UTube of a man talking about Coconut Oil helping his elderly father. I watched with curiosity. Then I googled Coconut Oil and found more videos of Dr.'s and people saying the same thing. I watched as many as I could find that night. So I went to the store and bought the Oil and took it to my mother. I put it right where she could see it every day and wrote down instructions for her to take 1 level teaspoon a day. I explained to her that it might help her brain better. I said it several times many different ways in hopes that she might remember.

    When I visited her the next week I saw she had been taking the oil. I woke her up and she started talking to me like I haven't heard in a year. She said she was watching the news on the TV and asked me what was going on in the world. I couldn't believe it. I had my mother back! I sat there and talked with her for hours catching her up on all the news. I also told her about her forgetfulness issues I was dealing with. She thanked me for getting her mind back. I told her about some issues I had to deal with and how I handled it with out her advice. She would just say sorry I wasn't there for you, but I seem to be back so call me anytime you need me. She's been doing fine since. She did try to push it and took more that 1 teaspoon and she said don't try that! It will clean you out more than you can imagine. So she's back to just one teaspoon a day ONLY! lol.

    She had one relapse because her cat kept climbing on the desk where it was so she put it in a cupboard so the cat won't get around it. Well then she forgot to take it and when I visited her she was gone again. I pulled it out and told her she had to keep it in her sight to help her remember to take it. I wrote her a note DO NOT PUT IT OUT OF SIGHT, TAKE IT EVERY DAY.

    She hasn't had a relapse since. I hope this helps someone else! It really does work for my mother and it's all natural.

    I started taking it for myself because I have dyslexia. No short term memory. When I read I have trouble remembering what I read. I've had this all my life. Well after a week of taking it, I was tested at work. We test yearly for our jobs. Anyways, for the first time I did not have to reread the questions. I did not have to reread the choices. I knew and understood what I read the first time and knew the answer instantly. I was almost the first person to get 100% on my test. I was talking to a coworker on testing day and he said he was using the oil for a different reason. And for the first time he got 100% on the test also! It worked for both of us and we both had the same problems taking tests. Not remembering clearly. So it not only works for the elderly it also works for dyslexia and reading problems. We were the only ones that I heard of that got 100% on the test.

    FraZZleD

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    Appreciate the connective sharing as have also had a few experiences. In a musical mood today for sharing - please do justice to the lyrics by listening to the powerful contributory voice that sings them:



    Lyrics:
    See the children playing
    Hear the sounds of virgin minds
    Come hear what they're saying
    There's so much to find

    Count how many pages
    Hoped and dreamed with clovers found
    Reaped in different phrases
    One wish going round

    Friend come sit beside me
    Fear me not, for I am you
    Friend come walk beside me
    There's so much to do

    Sing the song so clearly
    Make the words rise up above
    Mean each line sincerely
    Sing an ode to love

    Make your heart a shelter
    For someone who's lost his way
    Make the sun shine brighter
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    Sing the song so clearly
    Make the words rise up above
    Mean each line sincerely
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    I thought I'd pass on a lighter moment with Patty that happened a couple of years ago.

    Her ability to track a conversation and stay focused on what you were talking about, had diminished considerably. Which meant that I had learned to focus my conversation and get to the point rather quickly, or else you would lose her attention. One Sunday Patty and I, along with our son Steve, had a couple of friends over for lunch. We were just enjoying our meal and my buddy Don, was holding forth on some subject or other. Now he is one of those that likes to hear himself talk and is rather long winded, often repeating stories he's told you numerous times before, with no detail left out. We were all being polite and listening to him go on, Patty was eating quietly when all of a sudden she looks up and just goes..... "blah, blah, blah", and goes on back to eating. She really hit the nail on the head and voiced what many of us were thinking. My buddy was a bit more restrained in his story-telling the rest of the day.

    You've got to learn to take the joy when it comes...

    Best to all!

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    Bill - Thank you for this very timely thread. And thank you everyone for all the stories you've shared. This has really meant a lot to me in this time.

    My grandmother passed away four evenings ago. Although she was recently diagnosed as having Alzheimer's disease, she left this world following complications from a minor unrelated procedure. I am thankful that she did not have to suffer from Alzheimer's though. I worried and my mother worried that we would have to watch that sharp look she always had in her eyes fade away. That would be so painful for us as she held onto her intelligence and wittiness even beyond the diagnosis.

    Thank you again Bill and everone for posting to this thread.

    You all will be in my thoughts as I attend the service and reminisce with family.

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