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    I used to hitchhike a lot in the 90s and one time I had a lift from this ex-navy lorry driver. He had been on the same ship as prince Andrew during the falklands war and said he was an absolute c*nt. Andrew used to act so superior and condescending and frequently areas were made non-accesable to all crew except him and a few select officer buddies of Andrew. I could tell by the passionate way he told the story that there was depth to his bitter experiences with Andrew. I wasn't surprised when details started to emerge of his Epstein connections.
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    I imagine a lot will depend on whether proof is allowed to surface during the trial that the photo of Andrew with his arm around the minor Virginia Guiffre is genuine (and not photoshopped as Andrew has claimed).
    I seem to recall that photo was thoroughly scrutinized by a leading expert who said it was genuine.
    Andrew probably mistakenly thought that, and his claim that he doesn't sweat (also proven to be untrue, I believe), would never come under any real scrutiny.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I imagine a lot will depend on whether proof is allowed to surface during the trial that the photo of Andrew with his arm around the minor Virginia Guiffre is genuine (and not photoshopped as Andrew has claimed).
    I seem to recall that photo was thoroughly scrutinized by a leading expert who said it was genuine.
    Andrew probably mistakenly thought that, and his claim that he doesn't sweat (also proven to be untrue, I believe), would never come under any real scrutiny.
    I think your right. There’s too much juice to squeeze out of this story for him to let this go to trial. My gut says he will pay some huge undisclosed amount and settle it out of court. Although essentially an admission of guilt it would be over with much more quickly than a trial. Then my guess would be that he will keep a low profile and keep to the east wing of some castle for at least five years, maybe more. I’d bet he’s liquidating assets as we type. I feel for the queen, not a great start to her jubilee year…..x…… N

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    Andrew, formerly known as Prince...

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    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    I feel for the queen, not a great start to her jubilee year…..x…… N
    That's a common sentiment, but one I can not really relate too. The world has know about Prince Andrew raping trafficked children for many years now. I am sure Elizabeth and Philip knew about that long, long before, probably since the time he was with Giuffre. They have a security detail on him and they would have been quite aware of what goes on at Little Saint James Island. When they found this out, that would have been the appropriate time to strip him of his titles and move his bed into Windsor Castle's wine cellar.

    The British Empire, like every other empire, is about raping and pillaging. Occupying other nations, removing the wealth from the nations and transferring it back to the elite of Britain, all while reducing the rights of the people of these occupied nations. Part of the mind control that has been used to accomplish this continued brutality is the crown: cultivating tender affection for the king and queen and then declaring that the world is there little oyster. Anyone who would knowingly participate in this action while knowing what is in fact really happening, is, in my opinion, a psychopath.

    The empire may not have the power they once had but it is still apparent that they think the world is their oyster, or now, that young underaged trafficked girls are suitable rape material by the Prince. That the crown has waited until now to distance themselves from Andrew clearly shows that they care deeply about their image but not at all about the welfare of underaged at-risk youth.

    If it is a jubilee year, then I will find much to jubilate in if these unfolding events give the world a better understand of who the people of the Royal Family really are and what their role has been in the denigration of human beings.

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    From now on, he is a certified, bona fide royal family member from Buckingham Palace.
    what I want or what I am.

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    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I imagine a lot will depend on whether proof is allowed to surface during the trial that the photo of Andrew with his arm around the minor Virginia Guiffre is genuine (and not photoshopped as Andrew has claimed).
    I seem to recall that photo was thoroughly scrutinized by a leading expert who said it was genuine.
    Andrew probably mistakenly thought that, and his claim that he doesn't sweat (also proven to be untrue, I believe), would never come under any real scrutiny.
    I think your right. There’s too much juice to squeeze out of this story for him to let this go to trial. My gut says he will pay some huge undisclosed amount and settle it out of court. Although essentially an admission of guilt it would be over with much more quickly than a trial. Then my guess would be that he will keep a low profile and keep to the east wing of some castle for at least five years, maybe more. I’d bet he’s liquidating assets as we type. I feel for the queen, not a great start to her jubilee year…..x…… N
    He's tarnished goods, whatever happens. He's currently being protected somewhat by Mama, but just wait till she dies and Charlie-boy takes the throne. The Queen is hidebound by duty and tradition, but Charles will not be so forgiving. Andrew will be thrown to the wolves by the media, who will not have the same loyalty to Charles as they currently have to the Queen.

    I don't feel sorry for him at all - he's spent his whole life looking down at the peasantry - as the ex-military man above here has confirmed, and countless others will be now be stepping forward to back this up. Nothing backs this opinion of him more than that infamous TV interview when his character was laid bare for the world to see.
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    Quote Posted by lizhekb (here)
    From now on, he is a certified, bona fide royal family member from Buckingham Palace.
    Very true, nonce, son of nonce (& best friend of the UKs most famous peedo), son of nautical nonce.

    Re some of the other remarks, I doubt very much that his mother is alive tbh, masks, "distancing" & a lack of appearances, plus Buckingham palace being closed & the royal emblem being taken down from the gates for ages is all a bit odd.

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    I'm hoping Guiffre will resist the temptation to settle and go for as much exposure of Andrew's crimes as possible.
    After that and after having made the infamous Jimmy Saville a Knight (not to mention Tony Blair), whatever good reputation Queen Lizzie and the Royals still enjoy will be in tatters, at least among the discerning.
    And Andrew really will be sweating!
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    Stipping this mortal man of his titles is meaningless. He belongs in jail along with every other person who preyed on these underage children. The titles, the embarrassment and the shame are meaningless.

    Finding Ghislaine Mawell guilty is comparable to finding the driver of the car that robbed the bank guilty while letting the actual bank robbers off free. They have the documents, the names and even the willing witnesses but these are powerful people and they will escape any form of punishment. Andrew may be the sacrificial lamb and is casually being thrown under the bus but he will not spend one day in jail.

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    No one seems to be saying this, but considering the revelations Dark Journalist has brought to light about the elite looking for Atlantis in the area (aka "the Hot Zone") & the "Temples" on that island, is it not highly likely that these underage girls were used in "Crowley" type sex magick .... ie, it's probably a LOT darker than it appears ?

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    !00% agree that he will not see the inside of a cell any day soon - that's a given, as the elite look after their own kind. However, judging by his character, stripping him of his variable little adornments will be punishment enough for someone like him who bases his own sense of worth on said adornments. This is being used as yet another distraction by the msm - lets throw another, albeit royal, expendable onto the bonfire for the masses to get worked up about. Failing miserably methinks.

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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    !00% agree that he will not see the inside of a cell any day soon - that's a given, as the elite look after their own kind. However, judging by his character, stripping him of his variable little adornments will be punishment enough for someone like him who bases his own sense of worth on said adornments. This is being used as yet another distraction by the msm - lets throw another, albeit royal, expendable onto the bonfire for the masses to get worked up about. Failing miserably methinks.
    I agree with you, he will be livid about having his titles stripped and this is meant as a distraction.


    Those who feel sorry for the poor Queen should remember who and what she is. Those 10 children (in Canada) that disappeared after she and her husband had taken them for an outing should never be forgotten.

    Andrew is just an expendable individual pretty low in the pecking order. Ask Arizona Wilder and others.

    And it wasn't Andrew who was best friends with Jimmy Savile, who now everybody knows about, it was Charles. And it was the Queen who knighted that psychopath. The whole family know and are part of the whole scenario.

    Andrew was just stupid enough to get exposed more or less publicly, so they are just sacrificing him thinking better him than the whole family.
    They will never allow him to go to trial though, even as a witness.

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    Quote Posted by Mari (here)
    !00% agree that he will not see the inside of a cell any day soon - that's a given, as the elite look after their own kind. However, judging by his character, stripping him of his variable little adornments will be punishment enough for someone like him who bases his own sense of worth on said adornments. This is being used as yet another distraction by the msm - lets throw another, albeit royal, expendable onto the bonfire for the masses to get worked up about. Failing miserably methinks.
    I agree with you, he will be livid about having his titles stripped and this is meant as a distraction.


    Those who feel sorry for the poor Queen should remember who and what she is. Those 10 children (in Canada) that disappeared after she and her husband had taken them for an outing should never be forgotten.

    Andrew is just an expendable individual pretty low in the pecking order. Ask Arizona Wilder and others.

    And it wasn't Andrew who was best friends with Jimmy Savile, who now everybody knows about, it was Charles. And it was the Queen who knighted that psychopath. The whole family know and are part of the whole scenario.

    Andrew was just stupid enough to get exposed more or less publicly, so they are just sacrificing him thinking better him than the whole family.
    They will never allow him to go to trial though, even as a witness.
    Yes, I put my money on "window dressing" and doing his duty to be "the scapegoat" with the agreement they protect him from a trail or even having to testify.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Icare (here)
    And it wasn't Andrew who was best friends with Jimmy Savile, who now everybody knows about, it was Charles. And it was the Queen who knighted that psychopath. The whole family know and are part of the whole scenario.
    Yes and the old saying about 'the fish rots from the head down' is as relevant as it ever was.

    Sir Keir Starmer took over the leadership of the UK's Labour Party in April 2020. Here's what he was doing circa 2009.



    He was awarded a knighthood by the Queen in 2014 for 'services to law and criminal justice!!!'

    Here's Charles doing the actual awarding on behalf of his mother.



    In recent news Lord Ahmed was convicted of the attempted rape of a girl and serious sexual assault of a boy.



    He was awarded his title of 'Lord' in 1998 after then Prime Minister Tony Blair recommended it to the Queen for approval.

    Yes, the Queen and this Tony Blair.



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    And now it looks like he will lose his "Duke of York" title as well.

    In theory, no longer being protected by his HRH and losing everything else as well, they might actually throw him under the bus completely now:



    Posted by Richard Willet - Memes and headline comments by David Icke
    Posted on 15 January 2022
    We don’t want him either, says city of York! Calls for Prince Andrew to lose Duke of York title after Queen stripped him of HRH and military ranks

    The Duke of York should lose the title linking him to the Yorkshire city, it was claimed today after the Queen stripped him of his honorary military roles and he gave up his HRH style in a huge fallout from his civil sex case.

    Darryl Smalley, a senior member of City of York Council, has begun a campaign to strip Prince Andrew of his title after a judge in New York threw out the Duke’s motion to dismiss the case two days and ruled it can go to trial.

    Labour MP for York Central Rachael Maskell agreed with Mr Smalley’s idea and said it was ‘untenable for the Duke of York to cling onto his title another day longer’ as she started a Twitter hashtag saying #NotInYorksName.

    Mr Smalley told MailOnline that the cross-party support for the removal of Prince Andrew’s dukedom could result in a motion asking for the removal being passed by the entire City of York Council.

    Meanwhile Security Minister Damian Hinds refused to confirm whether taxpayers would still fund Andrew’s security, saying that police would ‘do what they judge is necessary to protect our country, to protect people in it’.

    Andrew, who was born an HRH, will not use it any official capacity, and has also been stripped of his remaining royal patronages in a decision which represents the 61-year-old’s complete removal from official royal life.

    The dramatic move is also being seen as an attempt to distance the monarchy from Andrew, who was once second in line to the throne as the spare to the heir, in the year of the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee.

    Andrew was made Duke of York on the day of his wedding to Sarah, Duchess of York – July 23, 1986.

    Read More: We don’t want him either, says city of York! Calls for Prince Andrew to lose Duke of York title after Queen stripped him of HRH and military ranks.

    from: https://davidicke.com/2022/01/15/we-...ilitary-ranks/

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    Quote Posted by Icare (here)
    And now it looks like he will lose his "Duke of York" title as well.

    In theory, no longer being protected by his HRH and losing everything else as well, they might actually throw him under the bus completely now:



    Posted by Richard Willet - Memes and headline comments by David Icke
    Posted on 15 January 2022
    We don’t want him either, says city of York! Calls for Prince Andrew to lose Duke of York title after Queen stripped him of HRH and military ranks

    The Duke of York should lose the title linking him to the Yorkshire city, it was claimed today after the Queen stripped him of his honorary military roles and he gave up his HRH style in a huge fallout from his civil sex case.

    Darryl Smalley, a senior member of City of York Council, has begun a campaign to strip Prince Andrew of his title after a judge in New York threw out the Duke’s motion to dismiss the case two days and ruled it can go to trial.

    Labour MP for York Central Rachael Maskell agreed with Mr Smalley’s idea and said it was ‘untenable for the Duke of York to cling onto his title another day longer’ as she started a Twitter hashtag saying #NotInYorksName.

    Mr Smalley told MailOnline that the cross-party support for the removal of Prince Andrew’s dukedom could result in a motion asking for the removal being passed by the entire City of York Council.

    Meanwhile Security Minister Damian Hinds refused to confirm whether taxpayers would still fund Andrew’s security, saying that police would ‘do what they judge is necessary to protect our country, to protect people in it’.

    Andrew, who was born an HRH, will not use it any official capacity, and has also been stripped of his remaining royal patronages in a decision which represents the 61-year-old’s complete removal from official royal life.

    The dramatic move is also being seen as an attempt to distance the monarchy from Andrew, who was once second in line to the throne as the spare to the heir, in the year of the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee.

    Andrew was made Duke of York on the day of his wedding to Sarah, Duchess of York – July 23, 1986.

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    from: https://davidicke.com/2022/01/15/we-...ilitary-ranks/
    Never thought I would see the like. Being mindfull of smoke & mirrors anyway, let's hope Fauci is next to be publicly eviscerated.

    (Mildly less horrific than being burnt at the stake I guess but potentially almost as traumatic).

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    Seems surreal, but true.

    And the story goes on. I just posted a link in the breaking news threat about the Scottish now wanting to strip him of his Earl of Inverness title too.

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    Prince Andrew Will “Disappear From Sight” After Being Stripped of His Royal Titles
    The royal family has gone into damage control after a U.S. judge ruled that a lawsuit filed against Prince Andrew by Virginia Giuffre can move forward.
    BY KATIE NICHOLL
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    "Prince Andrew will “disappear from sight” and will not be present at Queen Elizabeth’s Platinum Jubilee celebrations after being stripped of his military roles and titles on Thursday.

    Sources close to Andrew, who is no longer allowed to use his HRH title in any official capacity, will not be representing the queen in any way during the Platinum Jubilee celebrations, as the royal family goes into damage control in hopes of protecting the queen and ensuring her spring celebrations are not overshadowed by any more controversy.

    News that Andrew is losing his HRH status comes after U.S. district judge Lewis Kaplan ruled that a lawsuit filed by Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre can move forward in court despite Andrew’s hopes to have it dismissed.

    He now faces the greatest gamble of his life and will either attempt to clear his name via a high-profile trial or attempt to reach an out-of-court settlement with Giuffre, which could reportedly cost him millions of dollars.

    Andrew has remained close to the queen ever since he was forced to stand down from royal duties in 2019, following his disastrous Newsnight interview with Emily Maitlis, in which he claimed he could not remember meeting Giuffre and refused to apologize for his friendship with convicted sex criminal Epstein or express any remorse for Epstein’s victims.

    And while Andrew remains a member of the royal family and will be welcome at royal family events and private and non-official occasions, as of 2019 he no longer represents the queen and does not have any kind of working role or official presence within the family.

    According to a source close to the royal family, the queen’s decision to remove Andrew’s titles will not have been an easy one, but is part of the firm’s necessary strategy to erase Andrew from public life in order to protect the reputation of the monarchy.

    “He won’t be at the Jubilee, he is going to disappear from sight,” the source told Vanity Fair. “He knows that he cannot further tarnish the queen’s reputation, and that is very much the view of the family. The way they plan to deal with this is to remove Andrew from official royal life and public view. This has been the queen’s decision, but it is supported by other senior family members.”

    It is understood that Prince Charles and Prince William were consulted ahead of Buckingham Palace’s statement on Thursday and fully support the queen’s decision. “With the queen’s approval and agreement, the Duke of York’s military affiliations and royal patronages have been returned to the queen,” the statement read. “The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.”

    The source added that there was concern among the family for Andrew’s well-being. “He is absolutely devastated and if I was to describe how he is, I would say very shaken. This has come as a huge blow,” the family friend says.

    But it is not just Andrew who is stunned by the judge’s decision. Sources close to the queen say that the prospect of Andrew being tried in a civil case in the United States has been incredibly concerning and stressful for Her Majesty.

    One aide who has worked with the queen explains, “The queen has a great ability to compartmentalize and deal with problems in a considered and pragmatic way, but this is her beloved son and the decision she has made will be a very sad one for her.”

    The possibility of a civil case later this year threatens to overshadow an important year for the royals, as 2022 marks the 70th anniversary of Queen Elizabeth’s reign. During the year, celebrations will be held throughout the United Kingdom, the commonwealth, and around the world to celebrate this highly anticipated and special anniversary. Although he has indicated he wants to clear his name and is prepared to face a jury, he is facing pressure from palace aides to settle, The Telegraph reported. Giuffre’s lawsuit also suggests she may want her day in court, stating, “It is long past the time for him to be held to account.”

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