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22nd November 2010 00:53
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The Great Quotes thread
Misc Quotes
Quotes from Information Clearing House and other sourses
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The Census Motto applies to President Obama, Congress, Supreme Court, Military and ALL Government: We cannot move forward until the COUNTRY looks back at 911. How we got here is MORE important than just blindly going forward. It IS in our collective National Security Interest NOT to let a proven lie stand as an "official record" of that terrible day. Like the warning we now KNOW the White House had before the earlier Pearl Harbor of WWII. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident as a False Flag ops to get the Vietnam War going. Actual PROOF of a "Secret Goverment". We can't wait, and do not NEED to wait, to discover the Brutal Truth of "...a new Pearl Harbor" September 11, 2001 and the Progress for New American Century members. Reality MUST be Truthful to be Useful. Robert Williams Administrator
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We create our own future by our own beliefs, which control our actions. A strong enough belief system, a suffeciently poweful conviction, can make anything happen. This is how we create our consensus reality, including our gods. - DUNE Reverend Mother Ramallo, Sayyadina of the Fremen
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“Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don’t allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas?” - Joseph Stalin
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A lie told often enough becomes the truth: Lenin (1870 - 1924)
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“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)
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We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men: George Orwell
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"A slave is he who cannot speak his thoughts.": Euripides
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"Search for the truth is the noblest occupation of man; its publication is a duty." : Anne Louise Germaine de Stael - (1766-1817) French author
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One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous: Carl Sagan
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Stabilizing the present is assumed to be a form of balance, but inevitably this action turns out to be dangerous. Law and Order are deadly. Trying to control the future serves only to deform it. DUNE Karben Fethr, The Folly of Imperial Politics
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"Crime, once exposed, has no refuge but in audacity." Cornelius Tacitus
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"The first war crime committed in any war of aggression by the aggressors is against the truth" - Michael Parenti
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Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind: George Orwell
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The purpose of argument is to change the nature of truth. - Bene Gesserit Precept
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"We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government.... Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson ... and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business." - William Jennings Bryan, Democratic Convention, 1896
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If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good also. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20 percent. Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the Constitution pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say our Country can issue bonds and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the other helps the People. Thomas Edison 1920s
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"If we do go to war, psychological operations are going to be absolutely a critical, critical part of any campaign that we must get involved in.": General H. Norman Schwarzkopf
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The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them: George Orwell
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"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.": Joseph Goebbels was born in 1897 and died in 1945. Goebbels was Hitler's Minister of Propaganda
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“It is extremely dangerous to exercise the constitutional right of free speech in a country fighting to make democracy safe in the world.....
These are the gentry who are today wrapped up in the American flag, who shout their claim from the housetops that they are the only patriots, and who have their magnifying glasses in hand, scanning the country for evidence of disloyalty, eager to apply the brand of treason to the men who dare to even whisper their opposition to Junker rule in the United Sates. No wonder Sam Johnson declared that "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." He must have had this Wall Street gentry in mind, or at least their prototypes, for in every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the people.....
Every solitary one of these aristocratic conspirators and would-be murderers claims to be an arch-patriot; every one of them insists that the war is being waged to make the world safe for democracy. What humbug! What rot! What false pretense! These autocrats, these tyrants, these red- handed robbers and murderers, the "patriots," while the men who have the courage to stand face to face with them, speak the truth, and fight for their exploited victims-they are the disloyalists and traitors. If this be true, I want to take my place side by side with the traitors in this fight. " Eugene V. Debs - The Canton, Ohio, Anti-War Speech. June 16, 1918
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Swim Against The Current. Even A Dead Fish Can Go With The Flow. Jim Hightower
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"I am not bound to win, but I am bound to be true. I am not bound to succeed, but I am bound to live by the light that I have. I must stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong.": Abraham Lincoln
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"The American people should be made aware of the trend toward monopolization of the great public information vehicles and the concentration of more and more power over public opinion in fewer and fewer hands." -- Spiro Agnew U. S. Vice-President Source: 13 November 1969
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Ambition drove many men to become false; to have one thought locked in the breast, another ready on the tongue: Sallust (86 BC - 34 BC), The War with Catiline
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The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal: Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Advice to Youth
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False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil: Plato, Dialogues, Phaedo - Greek author & philosopher in Athens (427 BC - 347 BC)
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"The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology." : Michael Parenti political scientist, author
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"The modern susceptibility to conformity and obedience to authority indicates that the truth endorsed by authority is likely to be accepted as such by a majority of the people." David Edwards - British columnist - Source: Burning All Illusions, 1996
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"He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man...: Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution."
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"We cannot afford to differ on the question of honesty if we expect our republic permanently to endure. Honesty is not so much a credit as an absolute prerequisite to efficient service to the public. Unless a man is honest, we have no right to keep him in public life; it matters not how brilliant his capacity.": Theodore Roosevelt - (1858-1919) 26th US President
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"If the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded.": Noah Webster - (1758-1843) American patriot and scholar, author of the 1806 edition of the dictionary that bears his name, the first dictionary of American English usage.
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Every single empire in its official discourse has said that it is not like all the others, that its circumstances are special, that it has a mission to enlighten, civilize, bring order and democracy, and that it uses force only as a last resort. And, sadder still, there always is a chorus of willing intellectuals to say calming words about benign or altruistic empires: Edward W. Said - "Orientalism 25 Years Later," Counterpunch.org website, 4 August 2003.
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Sovereignty over any foreign land is insecure.: Lucius Annaeus Seneca : 4 BC-65. Roman philosopher and playwright
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"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." -- Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoi - (1828-1910) Russian writer Source: On Life and Essays on Religion
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"Free inquiry requires that we tolerate diversity of opinion and that we respect the right of individuals to express their beliefs, however unpopular they may be, without social or legal prohibition or fear of success." -- Paul Kurtz "A Secular Humanist Declaration," in On The Barricades, 1989
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"This is, in theory, still a free country, but our politically correct, censorious times are such that many of us tremble to give vent to perfectly acceptable views for fear of condemnation. Freedom of speech is thereby imperiled, big questions go undebated, and great lies become accepted, unequivocally as great truths." -- Simon Heffer : Daily Mail, 7 June 2000
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We allow the most atrocious lies uttered by political and moral prostitutes to go unchallenged. These lies are endlessly recycled in the commercial media until they become ingrained in the public conscience as truth. Worse than burying our heads in the sand, we bury them up our collective ass. How do you like the view?: Charles Sullivan
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Brahmanism: This is the sum of duty: Do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.: Mahabharata 5:1517
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Christianity: All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.: Matthew 7:12
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Islam: No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother what which he desires for himself. Sunnah
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Buddhism: Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.: Udana Varga 5:18
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Judaism: What is hateful to you, do not to your fellowmen. That is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary.: Talmud, Shabbat 31:a
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Confucianism: Surely it is the maxim of loving-kindness: Do not unto others that you would not have them do unto you.: Analects 15:23
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Taoism: Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain, and your neighbor's loss as your own loss.: T'ai Shag Kan Ying P'ien
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Zoroastrianism: That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good: for itself. : Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5
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"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom." -- Fredrich August von Hayek (1899-1992), Nobel Laureate of Economic Sciences 1974
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"Those in power need checks and restraints lest they come to identify the common good for their own tastes and desires, and their continuation in office as essential to the preservation of the nation." -- Justice William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice Source: We, The Judges, 1956
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"The trade of governing has always been monopolized by the most ignorant and the most rascally individuals of mankind." -- Thomas Paine - (1737-1809)
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From Dune:
"Superiority is in the eye of the beholder and invariably involves filtering out details that do not conform to a particular preconceived notion." - Erasmus
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"How will I be remembered by my children? This is the true measure of a man." - Abulurd Harkonnen
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"To keep from dying is not the same as "to live"." - Bene Gesserit Saying
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"Why look for meaning where there is none? Would you follow a path you know leads no where?" - Query of the Mentat School
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"Innovation and daring create heroes. Mindless adherence to outdated rules creates only politicians." - Viscount Hundro Moritani
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"The capacity to learn is a gift; The ability to learn is a skill; The willingness to learn is a choice." - Rebec of Ginaz
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"One uses power by grasping it lightly. To grasp with too much force is to be taken over by power, thus becoming its victim." - Bene Gesserit Axiom
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"The mystery of life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced." - Meditations from Bifrost Eyrie
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"Love is the highest achievement to which any human may aspire. It is an emotion that encompasses the full depth of heart, mind, and soul." - Zensunni Wisdom from the Wandering
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"There exists no way of exchanging information without making judgements." - Bene Gesserit Axiom
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"If you surrender, you have already lost. If you refuse to give up, though, no matter the odds against you, at least you have succeeded in trying." - Duke Paulus Atreides
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"To know what one ought to do is not enough." - Prince Rhombur Vernius
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"Never underestimate the power of the human mind to believe what it wnats to believe, no matter the conflicting evidence." - Caedmon Erb
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"There is no reality---only our own order imposed on everything." - Basic Bene Gesserit Dictum
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"The purpose of argument is to change the nature of truth." - Bene Gesserit Precept
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"The desert is a surgeon cutting away the skin to expose what is underneath." - Fremen Saying
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"Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore." - Mentat Admonition
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"The strictest limits are self-imposed." - Friedre Ginaz
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"The universe is our picture. Only the immature imagine the cosmos to be what they think it is." - Sigan Visee
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"Even innocents carry within them their own guilt in their own way. No one makes it through life without paying, in one fashion or another." - Lady Helena Atreides
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"In adverse circumstances, every creature becomes something else, evolving or devolving. What makes us human is that we know what we once were, and--let us hope--we remember how to change back." - Ambassador Cammar Pilru
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"Hatred is as dangerous an emotion as love. The capacity for either one is the capacity for its opposite." - Cautionary Instructions for the Sisterhood
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"The surest way to keep a secret is to make people believe they already know the answer." - Ancient Fremen Wisdom
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"Can any reasonable man be well disposed toward a government which makes war and carnage the only means of supporting itself?" -- Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) Source: at the US Constitutional Convention
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"We are citizens of the world. The tragedy of our times is that we do not know this." - Woodrow T. Wilson - (American 28th President of the United States 1856-1924)
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"This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are." - Plato - Greek Philosopher - 428 BC-348 BC
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"Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war and until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation, until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, there is war. And until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality, will remain but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, but never attained... now everywhere is war." - - Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia - Popularized by Bob Marley in the song War
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Half a truth is often a great lie: Benjamin Franklin
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"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly...it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.": Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister
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" I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson:
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"There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings." Dorothy Thompson:
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" As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand." Josh Billings:
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"We thought, because we had power, we had wisdom." Stephen Vincent Benét
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"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." Andre Gide
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"Not only is another world possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy:
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"Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all". : Dale Carnegie:
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"Sanity may be madness but the maddest of all is to see life as it is and not as it should be": Don Quixote:
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"Courage, it would seem, is nothing less than the power to overcome danger, misfortune, fear, injustice, while continuing to affirm inwardly that life with all its sorrows is good; that everything is meaningful even if in a sense beyond our understanding; and that there is always tomorrow". Dorothy Thompson:
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"Hope is both the earliest and the most indispensable virtue inherent in the state of being alive. If life is to be sustained hope must remain, even where confidence is wounded, trust impaired". Erik H. Erikson:
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" ... I am a wholly independent newspaperman, standing alone, without organizational or party backing, beholden to no one but my good readers. I am even one up on Benjamin Franklin - I do not accept advertising." -I.F. Stone
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"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. "- Barack Obama, October 27, 2007
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"Ah yes, truth. Funny how everyone is always asking for it but when they get it they don't believe it because it's not the truth they want to hear.": Helena Cassadine
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Without seeking, truth cannot be known at all. It can neither be declared from pulpits, nor set down in articles, nor in any wise prepared and sold in packages ready for use. Truth must be ground for every man by itself out of it such, with such help as he can get, indeed, but not without stern labor of his own: John Ruskin
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The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear: Herbert Sebastien Agar
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Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there, and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of truth: Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi
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"...freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus; and trial by juries impartially selected. These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us, and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation." - Thomas Jefferson
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"The establishment of the writ of habeas corpus ... are perhaps greater securities to liberty and republicanism than any it [the Constitution] contains. ...The practices of arbitrary imprisonments have been, in all ages, the favorite and most formidable instruments of tyranny. Alexander Hamilton
Administrative Note: In light of Obama continuing Bush policy, the illegal and permanent detention without charge, the above quotes are MORE important now then ever. We are slowly becoming a FASCIST POLICE MILITARY STATE.
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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.": Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - (1749-1832)
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"A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Benjamin Franklin - (1706-1790) US Founding Father
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"To educate a man is to unfit him to be a slave.": Frederick Baily (1818-1895), escaped slave, Abolitionist, author, editor of the North Star and later the New National Era
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I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered. Rev. Martin Luther King -
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"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." -- Thomas Jefferson - (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
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"Anyone who tells you that 'It Can't Happen Here' is whistling past the graveyard of history. There is no 'house rule' that bars tyranny coming to America. History is replete with republics whose people grew complacent and descended into imperial butchery and chaos." -- Mike Vanderboegh : (1953- ) Alabama Minuteman
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"Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to think, and this they consider freedom.": Oswald Spengler - (1880-1936) Source: The Decline of the West, 1926
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Ask yourself why totalitarian dictatorships find it necessary to pour money and effort into propaganda for their own helpless, chained, gagged slaves, who have no means of protest or defense. The answer is that even the humblest peasant or the lowest savage would rise in blind rebellion were he to realize that he is being immolated, not to some incomprehensible 'noble purpose', but to plain, naked, human evil.: Ayn Rand
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"I wouldn't call it fascism exactly, but a political system nominally controlled by an irresponsible, dumbed down electorate who are manipulated by dishonest, cynical, controlled mass media that dispense the propaganda of a corrupt political establishment can hardly be described as democracy either." -- Edward Zehr - (1936-2001) Columnist
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"Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them." -- Justice Joseph Story : (1779-1845) US Supreme Court Justice 1833
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"Our modern society is engaged in polishing and decorating the cage in which man is kept imprisoned." - -- Swami Nirmalananda - Source: Enlightened Anarchism
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"A free man is he who does not fear to go to the end of his thought." -- Leon Blum - (1872-1950)
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My eyes have been trained to look for other things. A beautiful person may still be repugnant inside, and a malformed body may contain a pefect heart. What sort of creature are you? - Liet Kynes DUNE
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An elder Cherokee Native American was teaching his grandchildren about life. He said to them, "A fight is going on inside me...It is a terrible fight, and it is between two wolves. One wolf represents fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, pride and superiority. The other wolf stands for joy, peace, love, hope, sharing, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, friendship, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside of you and every other person too."
They thought about it for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied..."The one I feed." Cherokee Teachings
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Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost: Thomas Jefferson
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Think truly, and thy thoughts Shall the world's famine feed. Speak truly, and each word of thine Shall be a fruitful seed. Live truly, and thy life shall be A great and noble creed: Horatius Bonar, D.D.
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Liberty can not be preserved without a general knowledge among the people: John Adams
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What want these outlaws conquerors should have But History's purchased page to call them great?: Lord Byron (George Gordon Noel Byron)
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"Man can find meaning in life, short and perilous as it is, only through devoting himself to society" : Albert Einstein
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"MEN WANTED: FOR HAZARDOUS JOURNEY.
SMALL WAGES, BITTER COLD, LONG MONTHS
OF COMPLETE DARKNESS, CONSTANT DANGER,
SAFE RETURN DOUBTFUL. HONOUR AND
RECOGNITION IN CASE OF SUCCESS."
SIR ERNEST SHACKLETON
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We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." -Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Why We Can't Wait, 1963
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"This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed ... were not, as some assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees.": Rudolf Hoess, the SS commandant at Auschwitz.
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"It has been for some time a generally received opinion, that a military man is not to inquire whether a war be just or unjust; he is to execute his orders. All princes who are disposed to become tyrants must probably approve of this opinion, and be willing to establish it; but is it not a dangerous one, since, on that principle, if the tyrant commands his army to attack and destroy, not only an unoffending neighbor nation, but even his own subjects, the army is bound to obey? A negro slave, in our colonies, being commanded by his master to rob or murder a neighbor, or do any other immoral act, may refuse, and the magistrate will protect him in his refusal. The slavery then of a soldier is worse than that of a negro!" Benjamin Franklinto Benjamin Vaughan, 14 March 1785 (B 11:18-9)
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"It's a mistake to think that poor people get the benefit from the welfare system. It's a total fraud. Most welfare go to the rich of this country: the military-industrial complex, the bankers, the foreign dictators, it's totally out of control." Ron Paul - (1935-) American physician, US Congressman
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"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretense of defending, have enslaved the people." - James Madison, speech at the Constitutional Convention, June 29, 1787
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"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people.
"The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." - James Madison, "Political Observations" April 20, 1795
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"Yes, as through this world I've wandered I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun, and some with a fountain pen."
(Woody Guthrie, "Pretty Boy Floyd")
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