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    In Phenomenon: The Lost Archives -- Tunguska, the Russian Roswell, viewers investigate the destruction of 200 square miles of Siberian forest just prior to the Russian Revolution in 1908. Was it, in fact, the impact of an asteroid that caused the explosion? Or was it the crash site of a UFO?

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    Hosted by Dean Stockwell and dated 1997.

    Two very good papers saying that it was 'normal' Cosmic Body of 'abnormal proportions' in recent history.

    First one in 2001 which is simply good speculation. The 2007 paper though is about as thorough as anything I've read on this issue.

    First the Wikipedia link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

    The 2001 paper published in Astronomy. &. Astrophysics:

    http://www-th.bo.infn.it/tunguska/aah2886.pdf

    The 2007 paper:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...07.00742.x/pdf

    I had normally assigned different speculations until I had read both of these, and they pretty much (esp the 2007 paper) settle the issue for me.

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    I watched episode six of Dark Matters earlier and one of the items was about
    Nicola Tessala and speculated it may have been one of his experiments that
    caused the Tunguska explosion. I thought i would have a look for an update.
    I first came across this on a Arthur C Clarke item in his Mysterious World series
    30 odd years ago. He speculates that the earth was hit by a meteor stream
    known as Beta Tourids. See 2nd vid...



    This video goes thru some of the plausible and more fancifull theories.




    Uploaded on 18 Oct 2011


    The Tunguska event, or Tunguska blast or Tunguska explosion, was an enormously powerful explosion that occurred near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia, at about 7:14 a.m. KRAT (0:14 UT) on June 30 [O.S. June 17, 1908.
    The explosion is believed to have been caused by the air burst of a large meteoroid or comet fragment at an altitude of 5--10 kilometres (3--6 mi) above the Earth's surface. Different studies have yielded varying estimates of the object's size, with general agreement that it was a few tens of metres across.
    The number of scholarly publications on the problem of the Tunguska explosion since 1908 may be estimated at about 1,000 (mainly in Russian). Many scientists have participated in Tunguska studies, the best-known of them being Leonid Kulik, Yevgeny Krinov, Kirill Florensky, Nikolai Vladimirovich Vasiliev and Wilhelm Fast.
    Although the meteoroid or comet burst in the air rather than hitting the surface, this event is still referred to as an impact. Estimates of the energy of the blast range from 5 to as high as 30 megatons of TNT (21--130 PJ), with 10--15 megatons of TNT (42--63 PJ) the most likely—roughly equal to the United States' Castle Bravo thermonuclear bomb tested on March 1, 1954, about 1,000 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, and about one-third the power of the Tsar Bomba, the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated. The explosion knocked over an estimated 80 million trees covering 2,150 square kilometres (830 sq mi). It is estimated that the shock wave from the blast would have measured 5.0 on the Richter scale. An explosion of this magnitude is capable of destroying a large metropolitan area. This possibility has helped to spark discussion of asteroid deflection strategies.
    The Tunguska event is the largest impact event over land in Earth's recent history. Impacts of similar size over remote ocean areas would most likely have gone unnoticed before the advent of global satellite monitoring in the 1960s and 1970s.


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    Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World: The Great Siberian Explosion (1980)




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    http://worldmysteries.tv/ Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World (Ep. 7) - This episode deals with a certainty: The cataclysmic Tunguska explosion of June 30, 1908. No one questions the fact that it occurred. Still to this day there is uncertainty as to the true nature of the incident and its possible implications concerning the expectations should such an event again take place. The subject is deeply discussed, reviewing all available information -- and Clarke addresses the significance of the theories presented.
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    In Phenomenon: The Lost Archives -- Tunguska, the Russian Roswell, viewers investigate the destruction of 200 square miles of Siberian forest just prior to the Russian Revolution in 1908. Was it, in fact, the impact of an asteroid that caused the explosion? Or was it the crash site of a UFO?
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    ...These are the days that so many ..wonders, this along distance call, the way the camera show us in slow motion, the way they...
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Da5uu...feature=fvwrel
    Nikola Tesla - Sahrana

    Autentični video sahrane velikog naučnika i vizionara.

    Look at the near Ones

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    Perspective from Within

    Nikola Tesla - Tunguska Invazija (Kompletan video u jednom delu) Ruski/Srpski



    https://youtube.com/watch?v=T2uoU...B60799&index=3


    May digging through the denial Veil lead to light


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    At 7:17 AM on the morning of June 30, 1908, a mysterious explosion occurred in the skies over Siberia. Because of the remote location, the Russian Revolution, and Civil War, an expedition did not reach Tunguska until 1927. Initial reports said that it was a meteorite because a celestial phenomenon like the northern lights or aurora borealis could be seen as far south as London. Apparently it was possible to read the newspaper outside at midnight, in London. At the time, it was difficult to reach this remote part of Siberia.

    Sky-glow and shining clouds: drawing from a photograph taken in Russia on the night of 30 June - 1 July, 1908:




    A photograph with an exposure time of 20 seconds taken at 10.5 p.m., July 1, 1908 by George Embrey of Gloucester.







    It wasn’t until 1927 that Leonid Kulik led the first Soviet research expedition to investigate the Tunguska event. He made a initial trip to the region, interviewed local witnesses and explored the region where the trees had been felled. He became convinced that they were all turned with their roots to the center. He did not find any meteorite fragments, and he did not find a meteorite crater.In the fall of 1927, a preliminary report by Kulik was published in various national and international newspapers. As a result, the event of 1908 became known as the “Tunguska Event.”

    Kulik formulated one of the first hypotheses to explain both the reports and lack of evidence on the ground: he suggested that an extraterrestrial solid exploded in the atmosphere, causing the observed explosion and devastation. That solid’s fragments then became buried in the swampy ground, which was too soft to preserve the typical morphology of an impact crater.

    Over the years, scientists and others concocted fabulous explanations for the Tunguska explosion. Some were pretty wild such as the encounter of Earth with an Alien spacecraft, or a mini-black-hole, or a particle of antimatter.


    Many theories have been proposed for the cause of the explosion. One theory is that Tesla's experiments with wireless transmission may have inadvertently caused the explosion. Just before the explosion, Nikola Tesla tested his particle beam or ''peace ray'' which was supposed to hit the North Pole..... it missed.





    However, the most compelling explanation for the Tunguska event remains the impact of a natural extraterrestrial object. This idea is supported by the reports describing a fireball descending on the tundra, sedimentary features, like the presence of nanodiamonds, magnetic and silicate spherules in sediments and the mapped distribution and direction of the fallen trees, which point away from the explosion site.


    Here:

    http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/f...00605.000.html






    Interesting summer reading that I made last week:


    RUBTSOV, V. (2009): The Tunguska Mystery

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    The plejaren gave details about this event ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Bardan
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    The plejaren gave details about this event ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Bardan
    It is my belief that contactees with extraterrestrials exist on planet Earth. I think these are contactees with different levels of contact, various abilities and who are also in contact with diverse civilizations positive and negative as well. Pleiadians claim that other contactees having some kind of contact with extraterrestrials are all liars. He is believed to be absolutely ''the only' genuine contactee with extraterrestrials on earth''
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    Quote Posted by Gaia (here)
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    The plejaren gave details about this event ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Bardan
    It is my belief that contactees with extraterrestrials exist on planet Earth. I think these are contactees with different levels of contact, various abilities and who are also in contact with diverse civilizations positive and negative as well. Pleiadians claim that other contactees having some kind of contact with extraterrestrials are all liars. He is believed to be absolutely ''the only' genuine contactee with extraterrestrials on earth''
    he is the only person having face to face contact with the PLEJAREN federation ... anyone else claiming contact , let them produce what he produces , over 100 witnesses , 1,200 daytime clear photos , sound recordings , metal samples , hand prints , landing tracks ( that are still there since 1975 ) prophetic information that is specific -date time , person , place ... over 72 years of face to face talking, and the last four years every sunday Ejana comes and they work on the book of names ... other races other people okay but , with the plejarens it's only Edward ... Billy and the Plejaren created the term pleadians to openly expose hoaxers ... there are no pleadians , they are called the plejaren ... it would be like us being called Earthians , people that know us know we are called Earthlings ...
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    Tunguska Event was only one event a fire ball comet which blew up in the atmosphere what happens when they are hundreds of them even thousands of them world wide



    The Cosmic Winter

    Victor Clube


    Great book truly does the Earth go though huge warms of huge comets . Do these end civilisation causing huge nuclear explosion causing nuclear winter to last decades . Great read coving all the great civilisation that suddenly just stopped without warming scorched earth how can you prepare for a end of days or our you just lucky famine and ice .okay so imagine a comets levelling Europe what would be the effects . how often where are there why are they there has it happened before .



    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WIoi6FEsdj0




    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CT3XJVP-MAA


    We are we heading into a another period of huge comets again ancients lived in huge fear of comets we live currently in a quiet period yet any time I look up I see more and more comets and there are getting bigger and more dangerous . in 1908 a huge Cataracts of Fire hit Siberia (Tunguska) exploded in a huge fire ball lit up the sky the local speak of a second sun brighter than normal sun rain of fire .

    Ancients speak of them hitting the earth in dozens of locations levelling nations and then nuclear winter with massive civil unrest with invasions of huge people and entire regions unpopulated roman Britain as a example was destroyed by one of these also comes great plagues when these things come .

    During five days in late June 1975, a swarm of boulders the size of motor cars struck the moon at a speed of 67,000 miles per hour. On 30 June 1908 an object crashed on Siberia with the force of a large hydrogen bomb. The moon was also struck on 25 June 1178 struck, this time by a missile whose energy was ten times that of the combined nuclear arsenals of the world. Why late June? What is the nature of such events? And what threat do they pose to mankind? The authors aim to reveal the answers in this book. They argue that rains of fire visit the earth from time to time, destroying civilizations and plunging mankind into Dark Ages. They uncover a lost tradition of celestial catastrophe, and underpin these claims with foundations based on the latest discoveries in space. They produce a risk assessment which reveals that civilization could well come to an abrupt end, destroyed by a rain of fire followed by an icy, cosmic winter

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    if my read sources are correct (and I think it was Dr. Joseph Farrell- but I could be wrong; if so, please correct me) the Tunguska event might have been caused by one of Nikola Tesla's Wardencliff experiments that just simply missed its goal/went wrong and landed at the wrong place at the wrong time (obviously not all of Tesla's experiments could have succeeded at first try as with all scientists; practice makes perfect)-

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    it was a comet which blew up in the atmosphere this is not the first time this has happened there have been world wide thousands of comets which have hit the earth at the same time it is called in history as

    rain of fire in which the sky rained fire

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    The Law of One info in regards to the Tunguska Event: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php...guska#Tunguska
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    The explosion caused large amounts of damage.


    The cause of the Tunguska event of 1908 remains a mystery today, even though one of the prevailing theories — that a meteorite had scored the Earth and displaced thousands of trees in Siberia near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River and created a crater that became Lake Cheko — has now been debunked, because theories, by their very construct, can be tested and sometimes found wanting. The Tunguska event’s cause is still a mystery, though, because that particular question remains unanswered. But one thing it was not caused by, Russian scientists are now claiming, was a meteor with a meteorite impactor.

    Sputnik International reported this week that Russian scientists from Krasnoyarsk and Novosibirsk visited in 2016 the area believed to be, according to one theory, an impact crater for the Tunguska event meteorite — Lake Cheko. The lake, according to some, had not existed prior to 1908, but the scientists were working on the supposition that, given that the area had been poorly mapped prior to the 20th century, accounts could be wrong concerning the age of the lake. In short, it might have existed prior to the Tunguska event itself.

    So the team took core samples of the bottom sediments of Lake Cheko with which to get a more accurate assessment of just how old the lake at the middle of the Tunguska event mystery might be. This would be done through geochemical and biochemical analyses.

    They took the core samples, which were pulled from the deepest trench in Lake Cheko, to the Institute of Geology and Mineralogy, Siberian Branch of The Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS). The RAS conducted a radioscopic analysis of the samples and found that, despite the commonly held belief that Lake Cheko was barely over a century old, it was almost three times as old.

    From the press release at The Russian Geographical Society:

    "The study showed that the deepest sample is about 280 years old, which means that the lake is probably even older, because the researchers did not manage to obtain samples from the very bottom. Nevertheless, this proves that Lake Cheko is much older than the Tunguska event and is not an impact crater of a supposed Tunguska meteorite impact.


    So, if not an impact crater, what caused the enormous amount of destruction in the region in 1908? Because, as BBC News reported back in July, the massive explosion that rent the air that day knocked people off their feet and produced enough heat for people to feel it on their faces, according to accounts. Charred reindeer were counted in the hundreds. Photos of area show burned and knocked over, seeming like so many matchsticks, branchless trees in the thousands.

    One eyewitness by the name of Vanara was knocked from his chair at a trading post 40 miles from the estimated epicenter of the blast, according to a 2008 event article at the NASA website. Moments later he felt as if his shirt was on fire. In fact, he said the sky looked as if it were on fire.


    Exactly what it was and what exactly happened during the Tunguska event in 1908 is unclear,
    but Russian scientists are now convinced that Lake Cheko was not formed by a meteorite
    impact at the time of the event.


    Suddenly in the north sky… the sky was split in two, and high above the forest the whole northern part of the sky appeared covered with fire… At that moment there was a bang in the sky and a mighty crash… The crash was followed by a noise like stones falling from the sky, or of guns firing. The earth trembled.


    People like Don Yeomans, manager of the Near-Earth Object Office at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the time the article was published, have no problem believing that the Tunguska event was caused by a meteoroid. He noted that there are several theories about the exact details of the event itself, but everyone seems to agree that a “large space rock, about 120 feet across, entered the atmosphere of Siberia and then detonated in the sky.”

    But if that is true, how is it that such a “large space rock” did not impact the Earth?

    In February 2013, a large space rock, about half the size of the theorized Tunguska meteoroid, entered Russian airspace again, this time over the Chelyabinsk Oblast. Technically known as a “superbolide,” it detonated in the sky with the energy equivalent of roughly 33 Hiroshima bombs. (Tunguska was flattened by an energy output of roughly 185 Hiroshima bombs.) It damaged hundreds of buildings in 10 major cities and sent over a thousand people to hospital.

    In “Chelyabinsk Airburst, Damage Assessment, Meteorite Recovery and Characterization,” which was published in Science in 2013, the scientists noted that the composition of the Chelyabinsk meteorites recovered were chondritic, 10 percent of their composition being that of iron. The report even acknowledged that no meteorite evidence had been recovered at the Tunguska site.

    Of course, this does not mean that there are no meteorites from the event, just that none have as yet been discovered. And yet, it is unclear if there will ever be any, because a superbolide the size of the Tunguska event meteoroid need not have been composed of materials that would have ever made it to ground, all evidence of its existence disintegrating as it detonated in the air.

    According to Denis Rogozin, senior research worker at Krasnoyarsk Research Center Siberian Branch of The RAS, the results of the Lake Cheka study will be published on July 17, which is the anniversary of the Tunguska event.



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    , the plejaren ETs told Mr. Meier the event was caused by a group of people from a system of three planets called the peoples Union of Bardan... the story goes , the rule is no contact with earth humans because they didnt want religion passed on to other worlds... a group in one ship with a crew of a little over 3,000 , landed because their ship had technical problems, they mixed with earth humans and caught a disease , the crew became sick , and no help coming , they fashioned a bomb , lifted the ship as high as they could and let it fall back to earth where it exploded on impact ...thats their version ,who really knows for sure ...
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    Somewhere I read that it was actually Tesla who caused the event while testing some of his theories.

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    I don't think this was the result of some military or man made experiments or similar. So for instance I don't believe Nikola Tesla had anything to do with this. But because of the location being so incredibly remote and far away from the civilization and because of no human casualties, this indicates that the impact location on the ground could have been the result of some intelligent decision for that impact location. Since the indications are that it is an unnatural or still unknown natural phenomenon relative to our understanding of the nature on earth, this makes it more likely in my opinion that whatever that was causing this explosion was the result of some foreign/external force, either with or without intelligent influence.

    Although a comet/asteroid is maybe the most likely cause, due to the lack of evidence of the explosion being the cause of a comet/asteroid it could have been something entirely different. It could for instance have been an intervention by some higher intelligence directing some incoming strike away from some metropolitan area to this area. Since no evidence has been found indicating this would have been the result of some UFO crash, it might not be that. Since the impact was quite close to the north pole that is too cold for tons of rain (falling rain is said to be the source of the electrostatic build up that causes lightning), then the theory that it would be some lightning or other natural electrical phenomenon is also not that likely.
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    1908 Eye-witness described the different trajectories of the object...

    This is Svetlana Polonov. who was eight years old then.

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    See p.150 of this PDF:

    https://projectavalon.net/The_Tungus...Meteorite).pdf

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