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    Default Re: The Tunguska Event

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    Default Re: The Tunguska Event

    Hannes Alfven, a Swedish professor of Plasma Physics back in the sixties, had maintained that this meteor was a very small object composed almost entirely of anti-matter.

    In his book Worlds-Antiworlds, the Tungusta event is cited as a prime candidate supporting his and many others' claims that anti-matter can and indeed does exist in large quantities in nearby objects, as well as there being entire solar systems composed of anti-matter.

    It seems to be a plausible explanation, given the evidence as it stands today with the cosmological model of contemporary science under siege from all directions.

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    This video analysis of the chebyalinsk meteor shows anomalies that appear to be a projectile shooting through the meteor just before the explosion, supporting the ufo intervention theory:



    Mod note from Bill:

    Interesting, but now debunked. It was an artifact on the car's windscreen.
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    For what it's worth:

    ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA, Video #37; May 18th, 2011:
    "Question: - Robben asks, 'What really happens about the explosive event in Tunguska, Siberia year 1908? Natural phenomenon? Alien intervention stopping some sort of galactic objects from destroying the Earth? -
    Answer by Andromedan scientist, Mythi: 'Robben, the explosion in this area in 1908 was caused by a small meteorite composed of antimatter natural, coming from the outer region of the galaxy. They are very rare because they neutralize any matter they encounter on their route, but this little meteorite got in tangentially over Europe, where almost all neutralizing in your atmosphere, that's left of him was neutralized so touched the ground in this region, uninhabited by luck.'
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    Anti-matter can exist in the same area as normal matter, as explained by Professor Alfvens. What happens is that a region of rarified matter and anti-matter create opposing plasmas that separate and isolate each polarity without total annihilation. Remember that plasma is a magnetic field supported by free electrons in a sort of cloud, but with special properties. Plasmas are negatively charged.

    But, that leaves the other polarity without a construct to relay the resulting positive charge. Anti-matter plasma could be that transport mechanism that completes the galactic circuit.

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    I did a quick search on the topic of anti-matter and found very little on the subject. Some references to it but no dedicated thread. I find this curious. We throw about the most audacious suppositions about time lines, aliens, exotic technology, mind control, etc. But on the one sure oddball in all of science there is no word.

    For that reason I think it best if I just add the little I know from my own personal data banks. Sorry, no collaboration will be offered.

    There is a thing called asymmetric parity, which describes the experimentally deduced fact that the creation of matter is favored over the creation of anti-matter.

    Everywhere in open space, elemental particles are created continuously and spontaneously. Of these, anti-particles are created as well as regular particles. The most abundant of the spontaneously created particles is the electron, and then the positron (the positive electron). Because more matter is created than anti-matter, there is small surplus of electrons that do not get destroyed when particle meets anti-particle. This says science constitutes the entirety of our cosmos, the bit of leftover electrons are the building blocks of everything we see in the universe.

    No where is there an explanation for the favoritism the universe bestows on regular particles. And this is the reason many scientists once proposed that parity might be preserved on the universal scale and that in our neck of the woods matter prevailed, while in other regions, anti-matter prevails. Experiments on Earth are not universal, a terrible assumption still adhered to today.

    There is a reason this topic is not bandied about at all anymore. And it has nothing at all to do with experimental conclusions, which in this case are tenuous at best. Much like the Big Bang Theory of modern cosmologists, or dark matter proponents, or string theory, or even the touted theories on the composition of stars are but working models with only the wispiest facts to support them, in truth. In these areas science is merely speculation.

    The asymmetric parity of matter is very probably the smoking gun in esoteric energy generation like the zero-point field. It is a solid place to start answering the strange properties involved in cold fusion, brown's gas, Rossi's e-cat and many others. Maybe even the Keshe foundation could use a bit of hard science to prop up their claims - and to begin truly understanding the nature of these exotic technologies.

    Carmody's, A question of Lithium, goes much further than I ever could. But I believe even his ideas revolve around this parity condition or comes about due to these two-dimensional vortices he speaks of.

    I feel this an important part of the Electric Universe as well because it explains the return connection - the connection that completes the universal circuit.

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    Lightbulb Re: The Tunguska Event

    • What Happened in Tunguska in 1908? New Study May Have An Answer
    • Signs of a Tunguska Like Event, but in Chile and 12000 Years Ago:

    Most explosive 'meteor impact' on record - known as the Tunguska event - may have been caused by an iron asteroid that entered the Earth's atmosphere and then bounced back into space

    • Wild theory suggests mysterious 1908 event was caused by robust iron matter
    • Russian scientists dispute theories the huge asteroid was made of ice or rock
    • Tunguska event lit up the sky and burnt 80 million trees over 830 square miles
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    I'll add another, very different, explanation for the Tunguska event. From the Symbolism Decoded blog, which looks at world events via decoding news stories of the time and matching up with news from other sectors. In this case, the crucial change in the oil industry that governed the next 60 years of powering the world:

    https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.co...omets/#Tungusk

    Quote Not long before Tunguska In 1901 a man from London negotiated oil concessions with Qajar of Persia. Exclusive rights for oil for 60 years in a vast tract of territory including most of Iran. He had just found the largest supply of oil the world just one month before Tunguska.

    05/26/1908 British struck IRAN OIL -APOC Created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company
    06/30/1908 Tunguska Event

    Thus one month before Tunguska the pyramid realized they hit the biggest mother-lode of oil EVER & unlike in Russia, in Persia/Iran they newly had 100% exclusive rights for 60 years.

    They needed plants and fast, so they moved their entire network of oil industry plants from Siberia to Iran to build the biggest refinery ever made (and remained biggest for 50 years) Plants likely brought what oil was in transport at the time, dumped it into a forest, and lit it on fire before leaving. Hence the scorched earth.

    In local time Tunguska happened on the 17th of June at exactly 07:17 Note the mention if it sparsely populated i.e. a good place to do something shady. 17/Q comms then and now denote a secret activity never to be spoken bluntly about.

    In 1911 – Rothschilds stopped lending to Russia- possibly because of having less vested interests in the territory.

    Note how in X-files the Tunguska event is specifically connected to black oil contamination. Symbolism gives away the history.

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    An interesting new article:
    Divers to Explore Possible Crater of Siberia’s Famous Tunguska Meteor



    A quartet of geophysicists and hydrobiologists has obtained a permit to dive beyond the 30-metre mark of Lake Cheko in Siberia. Their research, slated to begin in late February, will focus on the cataclysmic Tunguska event. It will be the deepest expedition ever conducted at the site.

    Using lakebed samples, the team aims to answer a century-old question posed by the leader of the first Tunguska research expedition, mineralogist Leonid Kulik. His question was this: If a meteorite caused the explosion, where is the epicenter of its crater and the extraterrestrial matter from it?

    Lake Cheko in Siberia, Russia, close to the epicenter of the Tunguska event.

    The Tunguska event and conflicting research

    In July 1908, a meteoroid measuring 50-60 metres in diameter plunged through the atmosphere above the Siberian taiga, catalyzing the 12-megaton Tunguska explosion. Experts estimate that the blast decimated some 80 million trees and dispatched at least three human beings. It is Earth’s largest impact event on record, but scientists have yet to locate its crater.

    Some believe the blast was caused by a mid-air explosion. Others think it was caused by hard impact. In 2012, an Italian research team found evidence that pointed to a small 500m crater in Lake Cheko as the point of impact. The study was hotly contested because that crater is located some eight kilometres from the Tunguska event’s supposed epicenter.

    The Italian group collected seismic measurements of the crater’s bottom, which showed about 100 years’ worth of accumulated sediment. And Lake Cheko’s bed — which is shaped like a crater — was deeper than is typical for the region. Dense stony substrate beneath the sediment was likely the remains of the exploded meteoroid, they concluded.

    In 2017, a Russian team contested those findings. Core samples drawn by the Russians seemed to indicate that the lake bed was nearly 200 years older than the Tunguska event. Geologically young, but not young enough to be the epicenter.
    The epicenter of the Tunguska event, c.1908.

    Tunguska research expedition, 2022

    Lake Cheko bottoms out at 54m and resides in the Tungussky Nature Reserve, a rural stretch in central Siberia’s Krasnoyarsk region. This winter expedition will start a cycle of long-term research there.

    “The team of researchers aim to study how thick the lake bottom’s sediments are, and take primary samples,” reserve inspector Evgenia Karnoukhova told The Siberian Times. “The data they’ll gather will be analyzed and passed on to geologists. We are not speaking about the search for any celestial body at this stage.”

    Collapsed trees close to the epicenter of the Tunguska event. Explorer Leonid Kulik, leader of the first scientific expedition to the site, took the photo.

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    I always believed a high altitude explosion caused that, which explains why no crater has ever been found. What I'm surprised they're not doing is taking an army of metal detectorists up there to sweep the region. There's likely millions of dollars of meteorite fragments scattered all over, just waiting to be found.
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    Siberian Times: Was this “emerald” brought to the Earth 108 years ago by the Tunguzska event?

    Thousands of kilometers away, in the Far East Krasnoyarsk region large piece of emerald like piece of space glass junk crashed to the house at the same time.

    I’ve seen photos and documentary on the web years ago pertaining to findings on an island on lakes, somewhere in Karelia where debris of the Tunguzska crash seem to contain symbols, strange letters and some were composed of exotic materials and nano materials.
    The research was carried by private group of ufologists though they confessed that government and military units visited the place number of times in past and were aware of the findings some resembling historical artifacts .

    There are several islands in that region that hosted Neolithic and older cultures in that area but the debris of the Tunguzska crash may have been scattered over large area so who knows though they have carried spectral analysis and other forms of material analysis to the debris origin and they seem to contain high levels of radioactive isotopes and were synchronous with Tunguzska.

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    Default Re: The Tunguska Event

    Arcturian108 (Ruth Rendely) was kind enough to bring this to my attention yesterday — and very interesting it is too. See the last (third) page of the document.

    https://documents2.theblackvault.com.../C05517745.pdf
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    Interesting, a meteor theory now takes a distant second place.

    Don't know if this is reasonable to assume, but, any race significantly advanced to find a way here would have sorted out tech teething problems long ago. (Think exploding rocket engines).
    That sort of mishap would have been left behind in a distant past. Whatever tech is used (definitely not rockets) it would have to be pretty stable, highly unlikely to cause a crash or complete destruction of a craft.

    So, highly speculative - two sets of visitors, one attacked/destroyed the other? One question answered, many more arise.
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    Default Re: The Tunguska Event

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Interesting, a meteor theory now takes a distant second place.

    Don't know if this is reasonable to assume, but, any race significantly advanced to find a way here would have sorted out tech teething problems long ago. (Think exploding rocket engines).
    That sort of mishap would have been left behind in a distant past. Whatever tech is used 9definitely not rockets) it would have to be pretty stable, highly unlikely to cause a crash or complete destruction of a craft.

    So, highly speculative - two sets of visitors, one attacked/destroyed the other? One question answered, many more arise.
    Similarly, the Roswell ordeal... these entities were intelligent enough to make it here from wherever (or whenever), but were outdone by our simple RADAR?? Come on. Even if we had hidden technology back then (advanced weapons), the same applies: space farers bested by the dunces resident here? Sure.
    Anything is possible with the proper training.

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    Forgive me if it's already been mentioned but the Farsight Institute did remote viewing on the "Tunguska Complexity":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmeOgRRbi8

    I actually paid to download the video! (Still have it.)

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    Could it be that there were two intelligent crafts involved, and given that not all extraterrestrial races are benign, maybe the 'craft' being annihilated was a threat to us and was taken out by the good guys before it could cause massive devastation to us in some way?
    Just guessing.

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