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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

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    Some posters apparently think Roth has the entire 9-11 problem solved, at least when it comes to the planes and where they went, how the calls were made, and what happened to the passengers. Because they have arrived at this opinion, apparently anyone else who continues to ask questions or have doubts about whether her theory is entirely correct is not SMART. I disagree.

    Rebekkah Roth may have gotten some things right, but I know for a fact that she has gotten at least some details wrong. I won't discuss this in any further detail here, but in some of her earlier interviews after Book 1 she was giving a detail that I happen to know was incorrect. I privately wrote to Roth and informed her of her error, we went back and forth a couple times, and she has now fixed the error (at least in her interview with Bill).
    Why withhold the details? Perhaps the details demonstrate that Rebekah is willing to fix errors, when she learns more.

    I disagree that disagreeing means we (or at least myself) think disagreers are not SMART, just because they disagree. Disagreement might be smart, or it might not be. Reducing disagreement to an ad hominem argument that those who don't agree with the disagreement are doing so just because they unable to abide by, much learn from, discent, is sometimes not a smart way to disagree.
    Just a heads up. That's not my post.

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    Just a heads up. That's not my post.
    Well ... it looked like your post .

    I just fancified the quoting in your post, to show that you were quoting awakeningmom .

    Thanks for catching that.
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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

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    Just a heads up. That's not my post.
    Well ... it looked like your post .

    I just fancified the quoting in your post, to show that you were quoting awakeningmom .

    Thanks for catching that.
    Lol... alllriiiighty then

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    I just feel for the people in the buildings and the firemen and the people of New York that have had this day embedded. And every other poor soul that was emotionally dragged into this dark ritual.

    To some people to even contemplate that it was an inside job is a seriously painful process that would feel non too dissimilar than the starting process of wriggling free from having a dry wedged cock up their asses.

    So all the books and information that ridicule the pathetic story given to us is like... a lube. If the result means everyone can stand up straight again when talking about this subject then I'm all for it regardless of how accurate it is.

    I don't need the liars to tell me the truth and I don't really want to know the whole truth, I just want to know in myself that when an event happens from now on my butt cheeks will be slammed shut.

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    I just feel for the people in the buildings and the firemen and the people of New York that have had this day embedded. And every other poor soul that was emotionally dragged into this dark ritual.

    To some people to even contemplate that it was an inside job is a seriously painful process that would feel non too dissimilar than the starting process of wriggling free from having a dry wedged cock up their asses.

    So all the books and information that ridicule the pathetic story given to us is like... a lube. If the result means everyone can stand up straight again when talking about this subject then I'm all for it regardless of how accurate it is.

    I don't need the liars to tell me the truth and I don't really want to know the whole truth, I just want to know in myself that when an event happens from now on my butt cheeks will be slammed shut.
    BUTT CHEEKS

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    Caravan To Midnight - Episode 369 A Methodical Deception

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7vs-pBZoc#t=10494
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Picking up from last night , there is loads of info basically showing links
    to mossad, Israeli links and finger prints with their neo - con / Zionist
    allies everywhere leading upto and after 9/11 and much more...

    Aprox 344 mins in Rebekah talks about exotic weapons and the towers could
    have be brought down by a dozen or more different methods in combination
    for different aspects of the attack and as back up and making it as hard as
    possible to piece together after the event , she is obviously speculating.


    Anyone looking into 9/11 must look at the geo political picture before and after
    the event to know how pivotal and why the US was taken over that day and
    it was not by any Arab Hijackers or 'cave man' in Afghanistan. But by well
    established organs of US/Israeli origin acting covertly to bring about various
    agendas planned well before September 11th and being carried out ever since,
    .....

    The Day Israel Attacked America the first 'false flag ' ..... USS Liberty

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post986895

    Top New World Order quotes



    Published on 7 Apr 2013
    Just some quotes from very prominent people about the "New World Order". .

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I'm looking at todays headline page and virtually everday there are articles or
    events are linked to the bigger picture/agenda. Israel has been a key ally in the
    middle east for decades and have infiltrated the US everywhere with 'duel nationals'
    and neo - con / Zionist allies . So they were and still are in positions of influence
    and power in the US and other countries.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Iran nuclear talks: Claims Israeli secret service ‘bugged hotels’ during decisive negotiations

    By David Icke on 23rd September 2015 Big Brother, War and Terror

    THE INDEPENDENT....



    Iran nuclear talks: Claims Israeli secret service 'bugged hotels' during decisive negotiations





    Report says Swiss investigators have discovered cyber attackers infiltrated
    surveillance cameras at top hotels in Switzerland and Austria using $50m Trojan
    programme
    Tony Paterson Author Biography...berlin

    Tuesday 22 September 2015

    ‘The Israeli secret service is suspected of being behind a series of mysterious yet
    highly sophisticated cyber-spying attacks on decisive negotiations over Iran’s
    nuclear programme held at luxury hotels across Europe earlier this year, Swiss
    media has reported.

    A Swiss newspaper, Der Tagesanzeiger, said that research carried out by its staff
    had shown that cyber hackers had been able to snoop on all the negotiations
    conducted last spring and summer by Iran, the United States, Germany and the
    UN’s four other veto powers, including Britain.

    The paper said Swiss investigators had discovered that the cyber attackers had
    infiltrated surveillance cameras at top hotels used for the Iran talks in Switzerland
    and Austria using a highly sophisticated $50m (£33m) Trojan programme, which
    had almost certainly been developed by the Israeli secret service.’

    Read more: Iran nuclear talks: Claims Israeli secret service ‘bugged hotels’ during
    decisive negotiations

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10513335.html

    ====================================================
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    In the meantime Israel is annexing more and more of Palestine , while we are
    distracted by Syrian refugees and the Balkanisation of Syria and Iraq.


    Why did UN erase 1,000 years of Palestinian heritage?

    By David Icke on 23rd September 2015 History Rewritten, Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation



    ‘Last year, the UN recognized an area of outstanding archaeological and
    architectural remains, located south of Jerusalem and Bethlehem but lying within
    the current State of Israel, as a world heritage site.

    The documentation lists periods of Hebrew, Persian, Hellenic, Roman, Byzantine,
    early Islamic and Crusader remains as the key points in thousands of years of
    human culture to be found there.

    The recognition stops then – almost a millennium ago. The site, called Beit Guvrin
    in the Israeli documents, is better known to Palestinians as the village of Beit Jibrin,
    whose inhabitants farmed the land, went to the mosque, built schools and clinics,
    ran a regular rural market and left the marks of their presence – both sacred and
    everyday – as an integral part of the site.’

    Read more: Why did UN erase 1,000 years of Palestinian heritage?

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...7010-299185473

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    You cannot look at 9/11 without looking at Israel/Palestine and the Middle East..






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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    Randy Maugans is another experienced host...


    OffPlanetTV - Randy Maugans talks to Rebekah Roth - 17 September 2015



    Published on 18 Sep 2015


    Support Free and Independent Media by purchasing a full HD copy of this show
    on www.ethimarket.com or go to our Network Support Fund at http://www.ethimarket.com/downloads/n...

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    The 2nd part after the midway break starts with Randy giving a
    good brief about other false flag and others events , then they
    carry on for a bit then 1:24 m they get into the Israeli Art student
    / bombers, withinstructions how to get to the picture on the link
    of the ' students' in the 91 story apartment in the tower.

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    Israeli Art Students Inside WTC ~ The B-Thing

    US arrests 200 young Israelis in spying investigation.....
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...stigation.html



    As hard as this might be to believe a group of foreign
    art students NOT U.S. Citizens managed to get temporary
    construction ID for the entire WTC complex. While there,
    they removed a window and extended a wooden balcony
    while their "sponsor" was in the Millenium Hotel taking
    photos, he also hired a helicopter to document the event.

    And only a retired flight attendant sees something fishy?


    NY Times article .....http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/18/ny...qualities.html

    Notice the BB-18 number for those fuse holders?
    http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/el...owr_busbar.pdf


    What kind of ART project could these Israeli's be up to?


    Once a copy of this pass is in hand, one can be
    reproduced, a simple project for an artist.


    DEA report information HERE

    Click http://www.methodicaldeception.com/resource2.html

    More information on art students HERE....http://antiwar.com/rep/DEA_Report_redactedxx.pdf

    NY Times article HERE.....http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...ol_911_125.htm

    More from History Commons HERE....http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...e_911_timeline

    More spying info HERE....http://www.npr.org/templates/transcr...toryId=4785888

    http://www.methodicaldeception.com/resource2.html

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    After this segment aprox 1:46 mins in they discuss 'Trolls and Parasites'....

    aprox 1:50 she mentions Bills interview ......About intel - surveillance

    Samson Option
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option



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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

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    fuse holders...

    kind of steers the listener right away from any 'exotic' technology doesn't it.....?

    I don't suppose the exotic technology that Judy Wood talks about would need fuses...

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    fuse holders...

    kind of steers the listener right away from any 'exotic' technology doesn't it.....?

    I don't suppose the exotic technology that Judy Wood talks about would need fuses...
    The use of fuse holders only steers one away from 'exotic' technologies if one presumes that only one technology was used, to the exclusion of others. That is an incorrect presumption, in my estimation.

    I agree with Rebekah that quite likely a variety of technologies were used, some conventional, some exotic.
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    .

    fuse holders...

    kind of steers the listener right away from any 'exotic' technology doesn't it.....?

    I don't suppose the exotic technology that Judy Wood talks about would need fuses...
    The use of fuse holders only steers one away from 'exotic' technologies if one presumes that only one technology was used, to the exclusion of others. That is an incorrect presumption, in my estimation.

    I agree with Rebekah that quite likely a variety of technologies were used, some conventional, some exotic.

    So many mass murderers ...so many weapons..?

    As you might have noticed, Paul I am very suspicious of RR .... my instincts alerted me and the more I look at what she is saying
    the more I feel my instincts are right - but that's just me, I know most people here think she's the best thing since sliced bread
    (slang expression used in Britain)



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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    Quote fuse holders...

    kind of steers the listener right away from any 'exotic' technology doesn't it.....?
    I don't suppose the exotic technology that Judy Wood talks about would need fuses...

    Rebekah is definitely not steering away from Judy Wood or any of them,
    in one of the last two docs , and I've been listening to a third one I
    posted on Pauls thread. She refers that the twin towers did not 'pancake'
    but disintegrated. Building 7 'pancaked' like the controlled demolition it
    probably was. Rebekahs strength is her new perspective into some of
    the events and connecting new & old dots.

    But to how the building actual came down she refers to most of the
    existing theories as far as I can tell.....

    I know you have seen these vids or similar, Building 7 came down with relatively
    little smoke and dust compared to the towers, granted it was smaller but nearly
    all the debris falls into its footprint. Unlike the towers who's debris was scattered
    over a wide area as dust.....

    WTC 7 - Side by Side Comparison to Controlled Demolition




    Dr Judy Wood explains DUSTIFICATION re NYC WTC on 9/11



    Published on 2 Dec 2012

    Penzance Truth Action presented Dr Judy Wood at The Tyringham Arms nr St Ives,
    Cornwall UK on Nov 13th 2012. Here's part of her presentation.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Where Did The Towers Go?" - Dr Judy Wood in the UK....Sky 200 TV with Theo Chalmers.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Theo-Chalmers.
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    So many mass murderers ...so many weapons..?

    As you might have noticed, Paul I am very suspicious of RR .... my instincts alerted me and the more I look at what she is saying
    the more I feel my instincts are right - but that's just me, I know most people here think she's the best thing since sliced bread
    (slang expression used in Britain)
    I've noticed .

    We have sliced bread (and that 'best thing since sliced bread' expression) over here in the US too. We Yanks borrowed much from the Brits ... and often made it bigger and more bad-ass:
    ... or in some cases, just more corrupt, as with our variant of the Queen's English.

    But you were still wrong, in my view, to state the use of fuses leads one away from exotic technologies. The use of one does not exclude the use of the other as well, and that's likely just what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11 of 2001.
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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    .

    fuse holders...

    kind of steers the listener right away from any 'exotic' technology doesn't it.....?

    I don't suppose the exotic technology that Judy Wood talks about would need fuses...
    The use of fuse holders only steers one away from 'exotic' technologies if one presumes that only one technology was used, to the exclusion of others. That is an incorrect presumption, in my estimation.

    I agree with Rebekah that quite likely a variety of technologies were used, some conventional, some exotic.

    So many mass murderers ...so many weapons..?

    As you might have noticed, Paul I am very suspicious of RR .... my instincts alerted me and the more I look at what she is saying
    the more I feel my instincts are right - but that's just me, I know most people here think she's the best thing since sliced bread
    (slang expression used in Britain)



    .
    I understand where you're coming from, I know I just can't take anything at face value and must keep an open mind, I just make room for more information. RR, has given much time and energy to her research that I am happy and very thankful to have...I like her, a lot too, she's easy to listen to and I enjoy her voice as well.

    Being suspicious isn't going to get anyone far or make you feel good about any of this, but there is nothing wrong with being careful about what you buy. People who fact check everything are priceless to me.

    I'm happy she has put out information that gets people exposed to the truth movement, and what really happened on 9/11, that gets them open to asking their own questions and eventually will lead them to information that we at pa discuss. Which is all good to me!

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    .

    fuse holders...

    kind of steers the listener right away from any 'exotic' technology doesn't it.....?

    I don't suppose the exotic technology that Judy Wood talks about would need fuses...
    The use of fuse holders only steers one away from 'exotic' technologies if one presumes that only one technology was used, to the exclusion of others. That is an incorrect presumption, in my estimation.

    I agree with Rebekah that quite likely a variety of technologies were used, some conventional, some exotic.

    So many mass murderers ...so many weapons..?

    As you might have noticed, Paul I am very suspicious of RR .... my instincts alerted me and the more I look at what she is saying
    the more I feel my instincts are right
    - but that's just me, I know most people here think she's the best thing since sliced bread
    (slang expression used in Britain)



    .
    (my emphasis)

    I agree. Something about her doesn't sit right with me, either. I didn't think so at first, but I do now.

    p.s. I have her first book, and I found it to be utterly unreadable.

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    So many mass murderers ...so many weapons..?

    As you might have noticed, Paul I am very suspicious of RR .... my instincts alerted me and the more I look at what she is saying
    the more I feel my instincts are right - but that's just me, I know most people here think she's the best thing since sliced bread
    (slang expression used in Britain)
    I've noticed .

    We have sliced bread (and that 'best thing since sliced bread' expression) over here in the US too. We Yanks borrowed much from the Brits ... and often made it bigger and more bad-ass:
    ... or in some cases, just more corrupt, as with our variant of the Queen's English.

    But you were still wrong, in my view, to state the use of fuses leads one away from exotic technologies. The use of one does not exclude the use of the other as well, and that's likely just what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11 of 2001.
    Fair enough - we all have opinions and can hypothesise about it all - and IMO that's all RR has...a hypothesis. Heaven knows there's no shortage of opinions and theories. We all like to think we are on the right track -

    Is she a genuine independent researcher...? That's impossible to answer 100% because we have no idea who she is, where she worked, what her motives are -

    The PTB must obviously know who she is (wig and glasses or not.!!) and whether she is one of them or not... it's just Joe Public who doesn't know.

    I think her hypothesis has many weaknesses.... but there you go..we don't all think the same..


    mmmm Wonderbread - I'll have a couple of slices of that for buttered toast

    cheers

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    I tried to do the multi quote thing but it didn't work...

    @Saint Theresa... Suspicion is the name of the game where 9/11 is concerned

    but yes I like to keep an open mind and make my own mind up as well about 'stuff' even if it means going against the tide of opinion sometimes...


    @selkie...I'm not going to buy the book(s)...I like to listen to interviews, preferably with the person on view so I can make my own assessments about whether I feel I trust them or not



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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    So many mass murderers ...so many weapons..?

    As you might have noticed, Paul I am very suspicious of RR .... my instincts alerted me and the more I look at what she is saying
    the more I feel my instincts are right - but that's just me, I know most people here think she's the best thing since sliced bread
    (slang expression used in Britain)
    I've noticed .

    We have sliced bread (and that 'best thing since sliced bread' expression) over here in the US too. We Yanks borrowed much from the Brits ... and often made it bigger and more bad-ass:
    ... or in some cases, just more corrupt, as with our variant of the Queen's English.

    But you were still wrong, in my view, to state the use of fuses leads one away from exotic technologies. The use of one does not exclude the use of the other as well, and that's likely just what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11 of 2001.
    Fair enough - we all have opinions and can hypothesise about it all - and IMO that's all RR has...a hypothesis. Heaven knows there's no shortage of opinions and theories. We all like to think we are on the right track -

    Is she a genuine independent researcher...? That's impossible to answer 100% because we have no idea who she is, where she worked, what her motives are -

    The PTB must obviously know who she is (wig and glasses or not.!!) and whether she is one of them or not... it's just Joe Public who doesn't know.

    I think her hypothesis has many weaknesses.... but there you go..we don't all think the same..


    mmmm Wonderbread - I'll have a couple of slices of that for buttered toast

    cheers

    .
    That's a wig????


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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

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    Default Re: Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015

    Well there you go , I spent ages copying and pasting the bleaden Israeli students post # 208
    above and I was thinking it would make a good vid on its own.....Low and behold it has
    and I just noticed Euromatrix has posted it.

    Know wonder no one is surprised by it , I thought it was really interesting..LOL

    Like Rebekahs vids there is so much info on the forum its hard to keep up with it....

    Although I have posted all the individual links hopefully to the right articles
    that's what was taking the time, as I was listening to the vid as well..(multi tasking )..Yeah !!

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