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    Default Elon Musk and Mars



    I came across this video of Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla on Stephen Colbert's talk show.

    I am intrigued to say the least.

    I would like those who are familiar with the SSP to clarify what he is hinting at.

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    Question Re: Elon Musk and Mars

    One might assume he is (hopefully) referring (jokingly) about terraforming Mars.
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    Default Re: Elon Musk and Mars

    So,

    we have Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Richard Branson........ all billionaire's building space craft. And the name's of these craft, Blue Origin (all the talk lately of Blue Avians'), Space X's Dragon capsule ( all the talk lately of Wave X and Dragon = Reptilian), and Virgin Galactic's White Knight.

    Is this for the reason's that are publicly stated, to offer trips to the public, or could there be some other motivation in building private craft that can escape the Planet?

    Just sayin'.

    Things that make you go, Hmmmmmmmm?


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    Elon says he named it after 'puff the magic dragon, who lived by the sea'.

    Rocket blast, ie a gigantic puff of smoke...and..Kennedy space launch center, right by the sea.

    But then again, what exactly are we pulling (drawing on) in when we do these things?

    The real question is why are we not publicly pursuing the moon. dig into the moon issue.

    Note that we are always pushing the future away to tomorrow and that there is never any allowance for the future to be happening today. No public space exploration program, no over unity devices and no anti-gravity craft. Yet all three are shown to be extant to some degree, via various channels. In the science department, we're decades deep in explaining the technology, yet public science is in forced and forceful denial, to the point of clandestine prosecution and death for trying to advance the sciences.

    When this finally goes clear, the anger of the public, on how they've been destroyed and altered, in life and genetics and potentials, will be so high, that murdering the perpetrators of this lie will seem too good a treatment, by many a factor.

    When you finally understand how off course you and humanity are, you will wail with the horror of a retarded human coming into dim realization... knowing they've been genetically stunted, turned down and away, and had their future stolen from them, across generations. All in the middle of a horrific mental and physical beating spanning generations. Like a cow coming to understand what they are, what a slaughterhouse is, and what the field they stand in is all about.

    Imagine how happy humanity will be when they figure out that this has been done on purpose, with intent, as a plan and act.
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    As for Elon, I think he's for real.

    I think he's calling them on their bluff, and forcing the space exploration program.

    And they have no choice but to go along with him, as they slowly find ways to retard his advancement, as best they can.

    So, to keep the hands that are 'reaching for it' even in the running, in earth affairs, the extant competitors each receive one single rocket failure. The Russians, Elon, and Lockheed, each receive exactly one rocket failure. Like a subtle shock/touch of an electric fence, to slow them down, as individuals, and as a group.

    Part of it has to do with the moon.

    That we as humans, were apparently told the moon is off limits and it belongs to someone else, someone who has been there a long time, or who has moved in.

    The reality is that the moon, is and will stand, for all time and logic that we can contemplate this subject via, as THE only true and correct place to go, for humanity to expand to, as a first order of business in space exploration. By as many factors of correctness as you can possibly state or add in. Mars is, by any factor, not the place to go. Mars is more difficult by a factor of 10x, minimum.

    That the moon would have, easily, by now (since the late 60's) have permanent self suntanning bases that would have millions of people on them by now. Bases that would have expanded humanity into space, by leaps and bounds.

    Yet..nothing. Publicly speaking and observing...nothing. It stopped..just..like..that.

    So we had to, apparently, being clearly warned off...switch to space stations.... and looking at mars. Only with regard to the public knowing anything of plans and projections that they are allowed to see and touch.


    At the same time..we try to quietly build our skill and technology set as a safety/buffer/capacity zone for humans.... but keep the masses unaware that this alien or other issue is THAT CLOSE to us. To avoid a xenophobia which would grip us in a way that is unimaginable and probably quite threatening to such a close neighbor. One who may have had a strong hand in our origins.

    Think about it.

    Increase the intelligence of a cow or pig to moron level, and they would instantly take up guns, gather together, go on a war rampage and kill all humans in any form, forever. Their rage, justifiably, would be beyond all potential for comprehension. What have we done to the animals of this planet? the horrors we put them through are beyond belief, yet we as individuals, deny such and never truly look at it.

    If humans are in a similar boat, as a cow or pig, in many ways..then..raising them into intelligence does indeed create a serious problem.

    One of those universal rules of a "holographic reality of consciousness as the fundamental in a information field": You get back what you put out.

    Now, if we grow up and outward a bit more correctly, and cease being driven in our linear consciousness 3d time based exploration... by the body's emotional coloring's... and realize that consciousness is deeper and it truly is an avatar system, then the anger dissipates, the drives dissipate, as it is truly meaningless -- in the face of that.

    That the body is a vessel, an organic meat machine that is useful in the context of this space and place. Eating them and breeding them (labour machines as well) and altering the original avatar system in order to do so (moon occupants), is not nice, but not such a horrific affront as it may seem right now, as the awareness would be entirely different. As, the person is not the body, is not the vessel.

    That..those who would indulge in such things are as un-advanced as humans are right now, but with a serious level of animal viciousness that is possessing them. Dimensional beings or otherwise. But, only as tied to this space this 'reality'. Slow the humans down, as the organic meat/labour farm is getting too advanced, too fast... This being due to the blowback effect of an avatar corrupted ---- trying to correct itself.

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    What I'm trying to say, is that one's circle of logic, their circle of contemplation must be big enough to hold all the potential factors, otherwise one drowns in confusion as to the origins of this mess we are in. What I've outlined is just the smallest scrape of the surface of a 'nut to crack', that is the size of a house.

    That's what is behind the statement that 'intelligence cannot be brought down, one must aspire to raise themselves into it'. The body desires to take the easy way out and use it's emotional coloring to get the job done, via simple animal answers and tactics like violence, desire, fear, sex, and so on. To the point that these serve as the norm in manipulation tactics of what is tearing us apart.
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    Default Re: Elon Musk and Mars

    Mmmm so if they drop thermo nuclear weapons over the Earth's poles will it warm the planet up and make Earth habitable .....

    Just changing labels and thinking of the obvious

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    Default Re: Elon Musk and Mars

    heading back to the original poster's SSP thingie, I think this meaning 'Space Studies Program'.

    The idea of nukes are probably to be staged, small nukes, but possibly using asteroids instead as that is less controllable but -has no radioactive aspect.

    Small ones, dropped in, one at a time, with some time period between them to gauge the effect. Which will take time to happen. This is faster than plants or other potentials, but it (Asteroids or nukes) is very risky.

    As this is like cutting a sculpture, you can't put the wood or the rock back on, you can only cut it off.

    He probably did not mention asteroids as the motive force as that is a hot button subject, as the same can be done to the earth, in the same way, at the same time.

    The reality is that the only real choice is to maneuver asteroids, small ones, one at a time, to do the job. nukes and radiation is not the way to go. nukes leave their residue and that problem is worse than the solution they bring to the table. the risk with asteroids is controlling their decent and their results (intensity). Nuking is precise, but the radiation makes it a non choice.

    In the final analysis, I think asteroids would be the choice if the actual attempt is to be made. Asteroids it is by a wide margin.

    Also, a bit of a thing that is now going public. We are finding HUGE amounts of water beneath the earth's surface. Again this recently happened. For the third or so time, another find of gigantic proportions. This means there is more. Much much more. In this one announced find, 10x the amount of water in 'the great lakes'.



    This means the same may and is likely to be true of MARS.

    This means that finding and breaching the underground aquifers of Mars may release far more water and thicken the atmosphere far better than nuking the poles. Slower, but better, by a long shot. Or do both. Asteroids on the poles and find and empty some of the aquifers.

    This is so new, as an idea and probably reality, that the whole mars issue and effort has yet to address this point. (caveat: of course I don't read everything)

    I'm raising the subject, right here, right now (1st post!), and announcing the strong potential, the strong chance of it being a reality. Watch for it's spread into the mainstream.
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