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    At 44, Elon Musk is a star. A guru, even, for some. Forbes estimated his fortune at $ 13 billion dollars. The founder of Tesla Motors and PayPal dream of a future where we will travel via tunnels in ultrafast capsules and where we recharge our electric car in minutes. With SpaceX , another company he founded , he imagines to be the origin of the colonization of Mars. Musk wants to detonate a bomb on Mars to make it habitable planet.

    Invited on the set of Late Show Stephen Colbert last September, Elon Musk has proposed bombing Mars with thermonuclear weapons to warm the planet. The alternative, he said, could be to export CO2 from Earth to Mars.

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    Default Re: Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, Engineer or Illusionist ?

    It is quite odd the Musk has had nothing but success, and done so in completely different industries, software, finance, and automotive. Both Zip2 and Paypal started with very little capital and became worth mega millions in a short time.

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    Default Re: Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, Engineer or Illusionist ?

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    It is quite odd the Musk has had nothing but success, and done so in completely different industries, software, finance, and automotive. Both Zip2 and Paypal started with very little capital and became worth mega millions in a short time.
    It's strange, scary, and fascinating at the same time. Armstrong once said that the first Moon landing was a giant leap for mankind. Musk is taking a massive leap in the same direction, so I don't know why Armstrong was opposed to it.

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    Default Re: Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, Engineer or Illusionist ?

    Engineer or illuminist perhaps?
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    I don't think that Elon is directly involved in any of this, as a active participant.

    I think he is being both interfered with... and supported, by various groups.
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    the electric car is too "gimmicky" - why he needs to have it so overpriced to be able to provide the onsite pickup and removal of the vehicle if it breaks down... because of superior service? or just to hide the real flaws of it? and it succeeds because of the manipulation of huge government grant money being funded into it, without which it couldn't survive, since it doesn't make a profit without it... the real genius is the corporate welfare program he created for himself... and his space x has produced nothing yet... every rocket has exploded on decent...

    zip 2 and paypal wwer brilliant timing, no doubt about it... but at that time anything internet related was a 100 times over valued, people were selling air companies for millions of dollars... talk about blasting off and escaping earth's gravity... now he can "play" for the rest of his life... just too awesome to contemplate sometimes...
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    Landing a rocket, is not a simple task. To say that his rockets have all exploded in decent... is really, quite off, to say the least. Such a simple claim or statement is not even a tenth of the story.

    Every one of his cargo(s) required to return has done so.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Heavy_launches

    His landing of the rocket boost main body, is like trying to land a space shuttle booster rocket after it has been used to send the shuttle into space.

    He's trying to land them on a pinpoint, and standing up. Which is a very difficult task, as you can see.
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    yes, point well taken, and that is what I was specifically referring to, what he is hanging his hat on (i.e.the accomplishment of this achievement) ...nonetheless that is the task he has set for himself... and he has the money to burn, both metaphorically and literally... and who knows what is going on behind the scenes?... I don't think it is just an entrepreneur burning through a lot of cash... there's politics to this thing... who knows how deep he is in... reminds me of the Howard Hughes era, pushing the limits of air flight technology at the time... I think there was heavy government involvement in the background of some of those projects... given the nature of the final products being manufactured, the target clients and the amount of funds involved...
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    Default Re: Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, Engineer or Illusionist ?

    is Elon Musk real deal more than Tom DeLonge but keep quite? assume Tom Delonge is real about the stuff that he talked about and coming out with technology but can't see it happening, i think Elon Musk is real deal but stay quite about secrecy and have access to these personnel high rank officers whom work or deal with spacecraft(UFO)/secret space programs.

    over the years Elon talking about and "working on" futuristic technologies including space travel to mars...i think Elon working with those people behind the scene on accomplish these technology but matter of time when release it.

    heard about Tom DeLonge came about with his company but i find we already have it with Elon and staying quite following the trend, for instance Hyperloop which many of you have heard secret space program have something like Hyperloop able to travel from European to Australia within hours. When Elon came out with Hyperloop and i wasn't shock at all but when gonna happen.

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    sigma6....loved your analogy to the Howard Hughes era! So true! See why I like you mind?!

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    Default Re: Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, Engineer or Illusionist ?

    I don't trust him.


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    Default Re: Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, Engineer or Illusionist ?

    It's my opinion that Elon Musk was in the right place at the right time when he started out. For PayPal, He joined with a few others, who saw a need for an online way to pay for items. And they decided to take a nice cut when people used their service. While more than most banks would charge? It streamlined sales for many, and they offered purchase insurance as well. They saw issues and fixed them, making it seemless for the end user.. People ate that up! Really the main issue was finding someone who could write the code for such systems, once finding issues, that was all they needed to do...

    When it comes to the other ventures, Musk used his gains to invest in ideas with others that have the same ideas, or goals. I am assuming he is absolutely not a rocket scientist, but he has surrounded himself with many who are, and as such, presents his business from the perspective of one who is very aware of how things work. His mind does function in a very analytical way..

    After taking the ASVAB tests myself, and scoring in the upper 98% for engineering. I can tell you that it is based upon how your brain works, how it functions.. How it processes information, NOT in what you know about one thing, or how to build it... I myself was offered an engineering job with the Air Force because of the way my mind worked.

    So he probably does have an engineering mind, without having the education behind it to be an engineer himself. His mind is able to see how things have to happen, to make the end result one of success, and he uses that for his business model and his technology. And he learns the specifics along the way, from those trained in each field. At this point he probably knows more about engineering things than most engineers, as he gets the most advanced information from all specialists, then puts that all together, while most stay in one field for a lifetime.

    With the Tesla vehicles? I am under the impression he did not start that from scratch, but rather took over a failing project, and then named it Tesla. Thereby turning it into a success. Add to that the host of other things he does such as home battery packs, and he has quite the portfolio of things that he offers to others, all very high end items, that require big spending... He doesn't nickel and dime to gain wealth. He hits the big boys...

    Starlink, while not being sold to the public as a money making venture thus far, certainly was not created and donated to the public. I am sure the military industrial complex has been funding that since the beginning. He states it is to connect the world, and for those in underdeveloped areas, when the truth is probably more like the government couldn't do that, and use the same reasoning towards the public so they had him do it.. A "Humanitarian effort" was then hailed as the reason for it. And it became a "Gift" rather than what it truly is, full surveillance for the planet....

    Add to that Neural Lace and his advanced AI development, as it all plays hand in hand, and the man is brilliant as a businessman. All he needs to do to be successful, is to hire the best engineers who truly want to make a difference instead of running in circles as they have been doing for decades. Essentially he used his intelligence to corral talent that was being underutilized... And he has done just that. I would think many Nasa inspired engineers moved over to Space X when offered that opportunity. And now, Elon speaks, as if he himself is building these rockets... Because he understands what they're doing.

    It is by placing himself in the company of engineers that Elon has learned so much about these things. As he is responsible for troubleshooting. To do that, he needs to know what the issues are, and put the right person on the job.

    I strongly believe that Elon has already implanted his neural net into himself... As he also recognizes that AI in the future could be a danger without human empathy. And with that added into the picture, he essentially becomes as knowledgeable, or possibly more knowledgeable than his best scientists.

    Elon has the benefit now, of the use of his technology. He can feed any situation into that technology, and calculate the chances of success. I doubt the man will ever go broke as a result now. Elon is not a "Poser", he is not an illusionist.. At this point, I think we are seeing what the new "Motivated human" can do when embracing the "top of the line" in said technology... I do think he walks a fine line with the powers that be however.

    Really Elon? All of your efforts and you are offering more batteries? How about free energy? C'Mon man, be brave with your new found stature in our society...

    I do find it sad that Elon is "going with the program..." I suppose he does it, because he has to... Or we wouldn't even get what he is doing now.

    I've met someone who worked at Space X with Elon... For some reason unspoken, they were disenchanted as well. And they did indicate that Elon is fully aware of what is truly being used, that we are not privy to... (Apparently so was this young man, who left Space X, to work "Elsewhere").. Where does one go from Space X? I have my suspicions...

    When watching Elon in an interview about high technology, listen to how he speaks now, in comparison to how he spoke years ago, before "Tesla" was a thing... He will stop and start to speak words, as if his mind is being bombarded with information, and he is trying to "buy time" to sort out what information he is able to actually share. Neural Interfacing is a big thing these days.. Many pilots are using it to fly their high end aircraft... Or "Craft"... Using the same technology the drones are wired with... Remote neural engagement that works at the speed of thought... With the speed of computer aided technology.

    Imagine we could think as fast as a computer, and instantly instruct the technology to react by mere thought alone... Because that's where we are now. And you bet Elon has said toys, and is using them...

    So he is the "Real Deal"... But how he got his start, and some projects, in my opinion were no accident.
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    Thanks, Denise, I watched very briefly the beginning of a video of him and was struck by how inarticulate he was, he seemed to not be able to get his thoughts together to form a sentence. It was shocking, actually, knowing how accomplished the man is.
    Reading your take on his mind being bombarded with info makes total sense to me. How he uses this neural interfacing, and god knows what else, is mind boggling to think about.
    I agree with Matthew, I don't trust him.

    Note to add: I wasn't aware he is autistic, if that is the case.
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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    When watching Elon in an interview about high technology, listen to how he speaks now, in comparison to how he spoke years ago, before "Tesla" was a thing... He will stop and start to speak words, as if his mind is being bombarded with information, and he is trying to "buy time" to sort out what information he is able to actually share.
    That's a fairly common thing with autistic people. The mind works and processes information far faster than the mouth is able to articule that information into speech. Good speakers are really able to allow thoughts and words to flow into speech effortlessly. For autists it's not so easy, of course it depends on the case and topic.

    When it comes to Elon, I think his intentions are good, but he doesn't really get the full picture. Intent is what truly matters and he still might be more STO. It's a shame though if it's true that he doesn't treat his workers so well. Autistic people don't generally have a problem with empathy, in fact I would argue it's the opposite. The only problem lies with social interaction and communicating with others. Of course I haven't tuned into his mind our soul literally so I can't say for sure how he is. I could do that, but I'm just relying on my gut feeling now.
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    I’m just guessing that he has already implanted a type of neural interface although it seems more likely than not at this point given the long list of dangers developing AI “unchecked”, at this point, could actually develop… (If it hasn’t already)

    The man I met that worked for Space X seemed more disenchanted with the technology being developed rather than with Elon himself, and when prodded about the subject he nodded that indeed there was more advanced technology that is being used, and perhaps he left to work in that arena, as he felt that working for Soace X was more a “ Front” company, and his efforts would go nowhere on a mass scale should he stay there.

    I wasn’t aware that Elon was autistic? Interesting!!!
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    Bots are not the big problem on twitter, it's a non-problem that Elon wants to 'solve'. Smells wrong, I don't trust him.


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    He appears to have chosen his words carefully to differentiate this from identification.

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    Its gone from smelling funny to sounds like a robot himself now. Echoing one of the comments lets hope he does 'authenticating' with a select all traffic lights not a biometric q-code stored in your brain ...exaggerated for humour... Hoping for something unobtrusive.



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    Mrs Anchor read a theory that Elon Musk is a reincarnation of Edison looking for redemption for all the crap he dealt out to Nikola Tesla.

    A lot of what is seen now is orchestrated theater, and my take is that Elon Musk is indirectly involved in that to the degree that it serves his purposes as well.

    For example: this latest move with twitter has been a good way for people to see the lefts true colors.

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    A history lesson on Musk...

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    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/c3CyJT8vMUE5
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    Quote Posted by alh02 (here)
    ...

    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EQZFjGjd7IiP


    That video disappeared but its back again

    edit update: Its a good find, well worth a watch imvho
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