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    Just started reading this thread, so excuse me if this has already been discussed, but...
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    It was from someone who was ASKING to be interviewed, who had been recommended for the Nobel Prize in Physics, had worked with Majestic on antigravity, and knew all about the Moon Bases. He said that Project Horizon was fully operational.

    I wrote back to him immediately, but he, too, never replied, We'd missed him. He'd been willing to go on video.

    My guess was that his e-mail to us had been intercepted and he'd been ordered not to talk. One has to act fast.

    These people do exist, and the programs do exist. But they are NOT allowed to talk.
    Recommended for the Noble Prize in Physics according to the sender. How do we know he was who he claimed to be?
    Another guess could be that the person was a fraud and decided not to play anymore. One should not jump to conclusions. These things are too important for that.

    Ps. I myself am not very familiar with all this secret space program stuff, if someone would like to PM me some good starting points to this topic that would be much appreciated.
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    This is the exact problem that I was attempting to convey when I wrote This Post in the Anomalies in The Ruiner's material thread.

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    Just started reading this thread, so excuse me if this has already been discussed, but...
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    It was from someone who was ASKING to be interviewed, who had been recommended for the Nobel Prize in Physics, had worked with Majestic on antigravity, and knew all about the Moon Bases. He said that Project Horizon was fully operational.

    I wrote back to him immediately, but he, too, never replied, We'd missed him. He'd been willing to go on video.
    Recommended for the Noble Prize in Physics according to the sender. How do we know he was who he claimed to be?
    Another guess could be that the person was a fraud and decided not to play anymore. One should not jump to conclusions. These things are too important for that.
    "One should not jump to conclusions" is correct, but it works both ways.

    Quote Posted by Harley (here)
    With the ever-increasing number of these bogus stories and whistleblowers, people are becoming more and more suspicious (as they should be). But because so many are beginning to get so accustomed to these instances of bogus stories and whistleblowers, they have now began to immediately attack the whistleblower practically as soon as their story/info has been released.

    Once again, I believe this is by design and that there are instigators to kick it off each time it occurs.
    Since this witness did not reply to Bill, one should not jump to conclusions because there simply is no information to do so.

    Bill did offer one valid possibility for him not replying:
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    My guess was that his e-mail to us had been intercepted and he'd been ordered not to talk. One has to act fast.

    These people do exist, and the programs do exist. But they are NOT allowed to talk.
    In a case such as this one, had the witness contacted Bill, Bill would have vetted him suitably before publishing any interview.

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    Default Re: A new Mars witness, never published (and a real one this time)

    Does he have any proof, that you know of Bill?


    Can I ask, do you have a series of 'litmus test's' that you apply to any potential whistle blower, or is it more a case of cross-referencing what is being relayed against other sources?

    I am trying for a second time for a possible answer to the above questions.


    Many thanks.



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    Listening to this vid filled in some of the gaps for me about possible back
    engineering and developing craft for the secret space programme . If true would
    mean wecould have flown to Mars and beyond decades ago. As an alternate to '
    jump rooms'.

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    Edit update of timed out material in this #... 9/8/2017

    Mark McCandlish: "Corporations Have Back-Engineered ET Technology To Control The World"
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rol-The-World-


    A.R.V. and the Mark McCandlish Story the free energy Fluxliner UFO Space Craft



    ====================================================

    Zero Point - The Story of Mark McCandlish and the free energy Fluxliner UFO Space Craft

    Edit 9/8/2017...original vid timed out.

    Published on 30 Jul 2015
    Military-aeronautical Illustrator Mark McCandlish was riding the wave of success
    making images of classified projects for the military-industrial complex. Then he
    made a drawing of a top secret project that he wasn't supposed to know
    about. And big trouble ensued. For those who want a story of intrigue, secrets,
    and technology. Detailed information on the history, physics and technological
    mechanisms regarding faster-than-light travel, antigravity, and zero-point
    energy is also covered in detail.

    James Allen was killed for making this documentary and getting too close to the truth.

    The truth is Free Energy is very real and UFOs are very real.
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    I believe that anything which requires such deviance and cover-up secrecy for so long, cannot possibly be in the best interest of the human race or even of those being used and hoodwinked working at the bases. Eventually, it suggests that when the project has acquired its goals, those fools who allowed themselves to be used will all be murdered. That includes us.

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    I did see an article about this the other day , and I just saw it on Davids
    'Headline page ' so worth a post I think ?? If its genuine it does not
    look like a rock to me.....
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    ‘UFO Drone’ Found on Mars is Proof of Ancient Civilization on Red Planet – Claim

    By David Icke on 8th November 2015



    Published on 1 Nov 2015


    The anomaly which appears to be the result of intelligent design was photographed
    by the rover as it surveyed the area around rock nest at Gale Crater.

    In my opinion this object is an extraterrestrial drone possibly built by the indigenous
    Martian populace or perhaps it was deployed by an off world alien species who were
    exploring the martian surface.

    This object was found a few years back, but i will be re-visiting some old discoveries
    and shedding new light on what they could actually be.

    Drone footage is from the movie Oblivion.

    Raw Image: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-imag...
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    At 6:36 in this video, there's a fascinating clip of Bill Hamilton talking about this whistleblower, which must have been well over 10 years ago. (I would LOVE to find the original presentation, in which he clearly says more.)


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    Thanks Bill. So who are the "advanced civilizations" that one whistle blower talks of? Do you know Bill? (Apart from the indigenous population that look like ancient Egyptians).
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    Thanks Bill. So who are the "advanced civilizations" that one whistle blower talks of? Do you know Bill? (Apart from the indigenous population that look like ancient Egyptians).
    That's Dr Bill Deagle (not 'Bob Deagle' as the video text says) talking with Kerry Cassidy and myself back in 2008.
    No, he never clarified (or never knew) what the "advanced civilizations" were that he was told about. I assume these were friendly ETs from other star systems. I got to know 'Dr Bill' quite well, and I'm convinced all his testimony was reliable.

    But, of course, it cannot be proved, and has to be placed in the very large pile labeled 'secondhand reports, supposition and conjecture'. But some of that really is quite consistent, and from multiple independent sources, too.

    My own conclusions are
    1. Hypotheses
    2. Estimated probabilities
    3. Subject to fine-tuning and amendment.

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    Quote Posted by findingneo (here)
    Thanks Bill. So who are the "advanced civilizations" that one whistle blower talks of? Do you know Bill? (Apart from the indigenous population that look like ancient Egyptians).
    That's Dr Bill Deagle (not 'Bob Deagle' as the video text says) talking with Kerry Cassidy and myself back in 2008.
    No, he never clarified (or never knew) what the "advanced civilizations" were that he was told about. I assume these were friendly ETs from other star systems. I got to know 'Dr Bill' quite well, and I'm convinced all his testimony was reliable.

    But, of course, it cannot be proved, and has to be placed in the very large pile labeled 'secondhand reports, supposition and conjecture'. But some of that really is quite consistent, and from multiple independent sources, too.

    My own conclusions are
    1. Hypotheses
    2. Estimated probabilities
    3. Subject to fine-tuning and amendment.
    Yes.. I was quite shocked at the end when he said the 'Martians' look like Ancient Egyptians. Maybe they are the same ones I saw in a vision I had. The ones I saw look like Native Americans. Not the most talkative either. This makes me want to look at Ancient Native Americans more. I've seen some insane things, but you know, time to find some actual evidence (referring to myself)

    In saying that, I have seen small amounts of evidence to suggest there were ancient structures on the east coast of the US. I didn't get far enough to feel like I wanted to share the information.



    http://world-pyramids.com/en/world-p...l#.WYvRmIiGO70







    Quote Of all ancient civilizations in North America, human hands have built no greater earthwork than the Monks Mound near East St. Louis, IL. The Mound Builders statesmanship, ambitious projects and workforce make them of the most important cultures of World history. Monks Mound is situated about a mile from the Mississippi River, just north of East St. Louis, Illinois, in central United States.

    The expertise of the ancient engineers that built the mound is shown through a complex layering of materials to build it. Inspection of the construction sequence of Monks Mound reveals that the final size and shape was part of a highly developed plan. All carefully layered stages of construction proceeded quickly as shown by a complete absence of erosion or layers of vegetation found between layers.

    The mound has dimensions of 92 feet in height, 951 feet (290 meters) long and 836 feet (255 meters) wide. Monks Mound base covers about 14.4 acres and has a volume of about 21,551,623 cubic feet (610274 cubic meters) and consists of more than 2.16 billion pounds of non-local soil types.

    Other construction materials used in the mound include limestone slabs, bald cypress and red cedar posts. Use of the limestone slabs in mound construction is important as a chronological marker indicating late Archaic construction (3000 - 1000 BC).

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    Wow! Just listened again to the Bill Deagle interviews from 2008. Anyone who has not done that can take advantage to learn about The Larger Picture of what we are involved in! Totally amazing!! We change things with our ...not with our weapons!

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    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
    In saying that, I have seen small amounts of evidence to suggest there were ancient structures on the east coast of the US.
    Many pyramidal, being-made structures on the floor of the oceans, in the jungles yet to be discovered, Mars, Moon, Saturn (Titan) and Pluto.

    Artifacts.

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    Referring back to my post #1, it has to be possible that this is the same physicist mentioned in Linda Howe's livestream of 15 July, 2020, who she heard indirectly had been to Mars 6 times in the 1970s and 80s. Start at 46:58.


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    Quote Posted by mpennery (here)
    Hi. Excellent discussion. Bill wrote, "No-one knows everything. Their superiors make absolutely sure of that."
    Well, if some "superior" is deciding who down the line doesn't know everything, somebody, somewhere does indeed know everything...or a quite a bit more.

    Who's deciding who is allowed to know what?

    Matt
    I am guessing the governments decide who knows what, along with the intelligence agencies, but the real knowledge, and who gets to learn real truths? In my opinion, is decided by the et themselves willing to share it with that particular person...

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    wow denise, what made you go into this thread? it is quite fascinating. im sitting here saying to myself, man i know there is sooo much more that i dont know. i know nothing. dont even know what i dont know.

    well i can only think that there has to be a main head like a bilderberg, type consortium that controls all governments all over the world.
    so the rest is a show

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    I really enjoyed listening to Linda Moulton Howe’s video above in post #73. Mars information, her insider contacts information, remote veiwing linked with her past reasearch. Mars came up quite a few times throughout this episode.


    It’s a great listen while your doing cooking or cleaning if your short on time, and in my opinion, well worth the time.


    Other than the Mars information aspect, Linda touches on remote viewing, past lives, ET’s, life and how we fit into the bigger picture, our future and truth and knowledge being kept from humanity, and much more.


    As usual, Linda presents her personal experience, research and knowledge with inteagrity, humbleness and love.

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    ... We change things with our ...not with our weapons!
    Someone said to me "Love is the only answer" as I was driving alone in my car.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    wow denise, what made you go into this thread? it is quite fascinating. im sitting here saying to myself, man i know there is sooo much more that i dont know. i know nothing. dont even know what i dont know.

    well i can only think that there has to be a main head like a bilderberg, type consortium that controls all governments all over the world.
    so the rest is a show
    Hi Doug!

    To answer this question, I had some contacts... I just saw it resurface (The thread).. and saw I had missed your question.. I apologize for replying so late...

    I believe, much like Bill, that there are many truths out there, easy to find if you look hard enough... Some there for the taking, if you truly ask for them with a pure heart, and loss of ego, willing to accept what truths are revealed to you.

    Like you, the more I believe I know, honestly, it only shows me what little I truly do know. And perhaps that is a gift, in and of itself... As there will always be something new to find in this lifetime!

    I just refuse to believe, that with all of this precious life on this world alone, that this is it, and there is no more to be found anywhere.... As I would guess is your thoughts about the matter as well..

    What a wonderful world. Something for everyone... And to possibly learn that another that has been to Mars was possibly considering coming forward? Well that is HUGE.. So here I am, and I do hope that they do eventually come forward, if they're still with us...

    While I am here...


    I do have a question for Bill, if he sees this post. Bill, Have you ever had an in depth conversation with Bob Brown about the subject? I ask, because of all the people I have ever met in the field personally, he got choked up when speaking about the subject with me, as if his heart truly missed those that came before trying to reveal truth, and he knew some things that he truly wanted others to know.

    The man loses money hosting conventions for us, and he truly seems to care that we learn the truth. Which makes me believe he knows some of it, and recognizes the importance of doing what he does, even if it comes at a loss to him personally.
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    I do have a question for Bill, if he sees this post. Bill, Have you ever had an in depth conversation with Bob Brown about the subject? I ask, because of all the people I have ever met in the field personally, he got choked up when speaking about the subject with me, as if his heart truly missed those that came before trying to reveal truth, and he knew some things that he truly wanted others to know.

    The man loses money hosting conventions for us, and he truly seems to care that we learn the truth. Which makes me believe he knows some of it, and recognizes the importance of doing what he does, even if it comes at a loss to him personally.
    Yes, I know for a fact that Bob Brown knows stuff he can't speak about publicly. I might guess with some confidence, but I don't know for sure what it might be.

    Back in 2006, at the first Laughin UFO conference I attended, a hotel room was booked, apparently filled with monitors (and/or projection screens) and equipment. A select few (not me!) were invited for "viewings" of sensitive, classified information.

    Ron Garner was one of those invited, and another (if I remember right, but this was 15 years ago!) was Rick Doty. I was told this by someone else who was invited, whose name I cannot remember. The hint I was given was that the material was connected with Roswell, possibly copied but authentic original film.

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    Thank You Bill..

    Rick does speak of gatherings, in which those "in the know", share intel at these functions. And I firmly believe, that while kind of silly in how he shared it? That Ron Garner did have his finger on some of the pulse of truth... I am saddened in that when I had the opportunity to begin to investigate such things, Most of those that had truthful information were no longer speaking and sharing.

    More recently I have wondered why we avoid the obvious... For example, the possibility that indeed these "Others" aren't at all living on other planets, or the Moons, (At least entirely)... and they live right here among us. These are so many accounts of such things throughout time... Seeing beings, tall people, very blonde people, such as yourself Bill.. As well as highly advanced people, right here on Earth.

    Evidence of destruction we could barely imagine, yet it's there... And here on Earth.

    And perhaps the Egyptians were not wiped out entirely, but fled... As their lands flooded. Did a meteor do this? Or an ancient war?

    And the structures found here, rival those that people hail as "Incredible" when found in other locations. Yet we have seemed to lose fascination with them.

    I believe the truth to be they're both here and in those other places... And would that be ground shaking information if we learned this in mass? That perhaps there is some truth in old lore, that there are beings that live underground, that sometimes come up and help out when a cataclysm happens, as happened to them.

    I do not believe we started the "Underground bases" by accident, but more than likely found some old defunct ones, and began to investigate them, as many things in the past seemed to be buried. Including advanced technologies that made no sense to those finding them. Yet we skip over these facts when looking for truth, as we look to the sky for the answers.

    It would make sense that there would be those keeping an eye on who shows up to these events. And what they reveal. Ron Garner said and did a few things that lined up perfectly with things I was told and shown, while having my own contacts... I don't claim to have all the answers, but if you watch the same videos enough, you can begin to learn some things you may have missed upon initial examination...

    I have watched Mirage Men many times.. And Rick's interview with Steven Greer as well. over and over. And it struck me, it isn't what he says that I needed to pay attention to, but rather what he didn't... For example, when referring to Paul Bennowitz, he made a curious statement that while dealing with him, he was a little concerned that while showing him one thing, that perhaps he found another. And that he himself had to be briefed upon what he found.

    This indicates that Paul brought something to Rick's attention, that even Rick wasn't aware of. Right here on Earth. And I do not think it was another training exercise.

    I suppose that my questions have been answered for myself.. That indeed our solar system is not only populated, but thriving. Do I believe we are on Mars? Absolutely... Can I prove it? No.. But I believe that in time, we will know. The questions then become, can we all get along?

    I am not going to lie, I would love more people to come forward and share what they know.. I once had a random conversation with a childhood friend after years of no communication. And they suggested that we shared an island with some et.. And he suggested this as if it was an open secret... And I believed him entirely.
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