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    The Truth Will Set You Free [Robert Adams / Enlightenment]

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    Alan Watts - Just Trust the Universe

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    The Unbelievable Life Of Nisargadatta Maharaj. Dec 9, 2022
    Nisargadatta was born Maruti Shivrampant Kambli in 1897 in the Maharashtra district of India.

    However, when his father died in 1915, Nisargadatta moved the family to Bombay where with his brother he opened a string of eight small goods shops selling mainly beedis or leaf-rolled cigarettes.
    In 1923 he married and in the years that followed he and his wife had three daughters and a son.

    In 1933, Nisargadatta’s life would change forever.

    It was in that year that Nisargadatta met his guru, Siddharameshwar Maharaj.

    Siddharameshwar Maharaj was a guru in the lineage of the Inchegeri Sampradaya, also known as, Nimbargi Sampradaya.

    This lineage of teachers came from Maharashtra and were inspired by a number of great spiritual teachers, including the great mystic poet Kabir.

    The Inchegeri Sampradaya was unique in that it offered spiritual practice to people from all walks of life, including women, and people of all religions.

    Those who came for the teachings did not even have to be practising Hindus.

    It was particularly popular with householders - those with the responsibilities of work and family.

    In fact, the gurus of this lineage were known for travelling from home to home to make themselves available to householders, rather than the householder having to make time to visit the guru.

    Many years later, Nisargadatta would say of his lineage, The Inchegeri Sampradaya--

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    Thanks gini
    I listen to Nasargadatta read by David Carse regularly.
    He tells it as it is
    Chris

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    Wishing everyone a wonderful time and a great 2023
    Love Chris
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    Chris, thank you for the good wishes, sending peace, love and joy back to you and all the members

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    "Let's get straight to the point - there is nothing that you can do to get into the moment with any form of consistency. There is no prescription. There is no breathing method. There is no meditation. There is no mindfulness. There is nothing in the world that exists, ever, anywhere, on any part of the planet that a human being can employ as some form of a doing, or prescription, or a trick, or a technique, or a hack, or a method, no matter how holy or how spiritual or how lauded it may be. It is not possible. This is another example of society leading people astray, and also quite frankly another example of people SEEKING to be led astray."
    "Be a Light to Yourself" ~ J. Krishnamurti

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    Clear Water
    Its all levels of understanding -- till there is the realization that there is no me, no individual to bring anything about.
    Ramesh was fond of repeating
    Events happen
    Deeds are done
    But there is no individual doer there of.
    One has to be ready to hear this.
    Intellectually, I get that there is no one home.
    Perception has not got there yet.

    Thanks for your contribution, Clear Water.
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    Ah, perhaps of interest to those who follow this thread, also from the above video's transcript is the following :

    Quote ... so the moment has nothing to do with any sort of doing in order to get there, buddhist monks are not in the moment, zen disciples are not in the moment, they're too busy following their own cultural beliefs and rituals to get into the moment. The person who does a prescription or is looking for a way to get into the moment doesn't see the contradiction in that the contradiction that is inherent in that is that a person cannot get into the moment because the moment only exists when the person disappears. There cannot be two so how can you bring yourself into the moment when the very act of you bringing a you with you prevents the moment
    Now, I would just like to illustrate with a couple of Dogen quotes how Buddhist and Zen monks are NOT "too busy" elsewhere eh ?

    Quote “To study the buddha way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by myriad things. When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away. No trace of realization remains, and this no-trace continues endlessly”
    Quote “Learn the backward step that turns your light inward to illuminate your self. Body and mind of themselves will drop away, and your original face will be manifest.”
    Thus, I'd say, it seems there actually is agreement that the "person" disappears or drops away eh ?

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    The moment you take up a position
    Know that you are identifying with an illusion,
    Thats a quote from ACIM to the best of my memory

    Nothing is real, nothing to go on about Miss quote from the Beatles Strawberry Fields forever.
    Seemingly the flaw is our perception.
    There is no Subject or Object
    All is appearances in one consciousness, no separation.
    Only the complete understanding is-- no time no space for separate happenings.

    Good to see a discussion happening here.
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    Oh, now, I imagine that for readers of this thread the following YT video (17 Dec 2022) will probably induce many broad smiles eh ?

    Quote The BIG Paradigm Shift of Non-duality : The big difference between enlightenment and 'what is'. In one version we want what the guru's having . . . . in the other version, there's no-one having anything because there is no-one!


    Disclaimer I : For enjoyment purposes only !!!

    Disclaimer II : Don't watch if "seeking" is irrelevant in your life !!!



    #WhoAreYou
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    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    RE: The ego is not a mistake


    A restatement of the above:

    Quote It takes a Wabi heart, to recognize a Sabi beauty.
    - Omar Itani






    Quote There are those, of course, who do not share my perceptions, it's true. When I say that all my women are dazzling beauties, they object. The nose of this one is too large; the hips of another, they are too wide; perhaps the breasts of a third, they are too small. But I see these women for how they truly are... glorious, radiant, spectacular, and perfect, because, I am not limited by my eyesight.

    JOHNNY DEPP - Don Juan DeMarco
    (Once you believe, signs are everywhere)
    Knock Knock

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    Hi greybeard, nice to meet you. "How to transcend the ego " do we know exactly what the ego is, it could be many things. I struggle with this concept ; so for me a good starting point is this :
    To try to live every waking moment in a state of Reverence. How do we do that ? I suppose the same way a young child would look at the world, with awe and wonder. In an adult, if one can sustain this for any lenght of time, this will inevitably lead to Reverence. This is enough for God/ Source.
    ...... just a starting point yeh ?

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    Dear Applesprig
    Sorry for delay in responding.
    I dont post very often.
    One definition of Ego is Edge God Out
    Its a separation device when in reality we are not separate from The Divine.
    All attempts to transcend are futile.
    Mind stuff
    Be still and know that I AM GOD Jesus said.
    Thats it --- dont respond to thoughts -- dont Annalise.
    Just be quiet, without trying.
    Thoughts come and go
    Let go let God
    By God I mean the divine energy that flows through all, is all.

    One definition of ego is
    IDENTIFICATION WITH THE STORY OF ME.
    You are not the story.
    Love Chris
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    Hi Greybeard, thanks for that, yes it's that simple but also difficult to sustain. I like what you write.

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    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    To the unidentified, any identity is a story.
    (The idea of a so-called, unidentified, suggests identity. It can be but that it-self is a story.)

    Story begins and ends with a story. Never beginning, never ending story.
    Turtles, as an analogy, to story/ identity…. It’s story all the way down. An advantage point that (also) allows turtles all the way up.

    How high is high?
    How low is low?
    Knock Knock

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Dear Applesprig
    Sorry for delay in responding.
    I dont post very often.
    One definition of Ego is Edge God Out
    Its a separation device when in reality we are not separate from The Divine.
    All attempts to transcend are futile.
    Mind stuff
    Be still and know that I AM GOD Jesus said.
    Thats it --- dont respond to thoughts -- dont Annalise.
    Just be quiet, without trying.
    Thoughts come and go
    Let go let God
    By God I mean the divine energy that flows through all, is all.

    One definition of ego is
    IDENTIFICATION WITH THE STORY OF ME.
    You are not the story.
    Love Chris
    Hi, greybeard. I love the way you make things simple and clear. Thanks to your contributions on this forum, concepts have also become more clear to me.
    This is my second expression of gratitude today to you.
    Concerning ACIM, 2 times I have come across an information that the book is a CIA project but when I read it just so resonates with me...I cannot see the deception in it...the critique of it could be a psyop itself...all in all ACIM could and is in fact a very unique peace of work!

    Sending you all love
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Dear Applesprig
    Sorry for delay in responding.
    I dont post very often.
    One definition of Ego is Edge God Out
    Its a separation device when in reality we are not separate from The Divine.
    All attempts to transcend are futile.
    Mind stuff
    Be still and know that I AM GOD Jesus said.
    Thats it --- dont respond to thoughts -- dont Annalise.
    Just be quiet, without trying.
    Thoughts come and go
    Let go let God
    By God I mean the divine energy that flows through all, is all.

    One definition of ego is
    IDENTIFICATION WITH THE STORY OF ME.
    You are not the story.
    Love Chris
    A good way to teach kids what ego means or how it works, at first, and in a very basic small scale is this

    Place a few rocks on the floor, like in the entrance of the home, let them be there for a few days and people must skip over them going in and out without touching them
    Ask the kid (or person) what do they think of these rocks, are they useful? Or are they wasting space and causing issues with people coming into/out of the house?
    Ask them to do something about the rocks. Most people will move them away or throw them out. But other people will leave them there and just accept that they exist there and the world works in a certain way, the rocks live there on the entrance of the house and is not anyone's place to change their environment

    That's how ego is teached, if you moved the rocks, you consider yourself more important than the environment around you, and you changed it to suit your own needs, or even carelessly because you just became lazy about having to step carefully over those rocks

    In Japan temples, there's a first step entering the building, made out of wood, you are always supposed to not step on it. It's 'ridiculous' in most people's views, but it's there specifically so that you don't step on it
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