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    WOW…ok, so I found the following post on another forum today. It's definitely worth sharing!

    Let me say that if this is true and not some "audio de-synchronization" then it's a real WTH moment!

    1. Who is behind this advance technology and why?
    2. Why would Darryl Anka (the Channeler of Bashar) not divulge this? Deception seems undeniable.
    3. What about Bashar’s message are they trying to use against us, etc?




    “This was recorded for certain before 1999, it sounds like at least a couple. Maybe 1996.

    If your headphones are good enough, you may actually be able to verify the proof at 1:25 through the Youtube link alone.

    YOU CANNOT CONFIRM WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY WITH THE AUDIO LEVELS OF THE VIDEO ABOVE. You NEED to download it using http://www.keepvid.com as an .mp4 at 480p and play it back using VLC player using headphones. You will have to listen very closely to hear what we intend to hear, but after you notice it ONCE, you will notice it throughout the whole thing. So just accomplish it once.

    Here's the extremely shocking thing that I have discovered: It seems that this channeler, who has become VERY renown for channeling Bashar (supposedly a benevolent, super-evolved extraterrestrial intelligence) is being fed these so-called 'transmissions' by a white male HUMAN voice that is relaying the information to him in realtime. These are most evident at the following timestamps, although it is happening throughout the entirety of the responses. Again, you will need to run it through VLC player to hear. And you will need headphones:

    0:54 - this is insanely blatant. You can hear that after he says "after we translate the phrase" the channeler momentarily stops as you can hear a voice in the background say "isolated, limited terrorist..." to which the channeler follows suit right away.

    1:06 - after the channeler finishes saying "America", the voice in the background goes on saying "primarily.." to which the channeler follows suit.

    1:17 - At the exact moment which the person finishes asking the question "do you know when it is likely to occur?" you can immediately hear the white male voice in the background speak first even before Bashar speaks. This is very important since it is a case of the background voice speaking first before the channeler begins speaking at all, which is the clearest (and first) case of this happening in the video. Effectively eliminating the possibility of any audio de-synchronization, which was already completely absurd to begin with since the questioner has no such effect over his voice and the background voice is clearly nothing like the channeler's...

    1:25 - THIS IS THE CLEAREST, MOST UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE IN THIS ENTIRE VIDEO.
    After the channeler finishes saying "2001", the white male voice in the background goes on to very clearly say, "MOST LIKELY, in or around" HOWEVER, the channeler does not say this right away, instead he says "MOST LIKELY, either" (he probably says "either" because he did not clearly hear what the other male voice said, signalling for a repeat, or he was biding for more time just in case the message he was receiving from the background voice would be a little lengthy so he'd have time to relay it clearly) and THEN after a repeat by the background voice saying "in or around" a second time, the channeler continues with "in or around". This undeniably proves that there are two different people involved in this transmission and that Bashar is not an extraterrestrial channeler but a complete deceiver and government pawn. I have just proved this for certain.

    1:39 - After channeler finishes saying "because nothing is." You immediately hear the background voice chime in with "But there are other..."

    1:45 - "That may allow"

    It's all perfectly clear, my friends...

    AGAIN, this is all happening throughout all the responses given in the video, however these timestamps are the most evident.

    This is all truly eye-opening. If you have been trying to figure out for some time now what the deal is with extraterrestrials and the so-called ruling elite, analyzing this will move you a step in the right direction.

    Bashar is a government pawn not in direct contact with any extraterrestrial intelligence for that matter, but merely a total slave being used to prepare the world for something. What that something is is up to you to recognize when it arrives. The implications of everything I have revealed in this thread are very real. This accomplishes a great deal of things.”

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    It could also be echo-feedback from the (bad) recording (quite common when two microphones are used ie one from Darryl and another from the questioner). I've attended a live Bashar Seminar and we were sitting in the front row almost close enough to reach out and touch him. IMO, he's the real deal and given this is such a poor recording, I don't really think anything useful can be gained from jumping to conclusions. (apart from the information). As there are hundreds of recordings available and at least one book downloadable from here I think you're making very premature (& incorrect) judgements from just one example.

    "Reading a single page from a 500 page book does not an expert make" - ME

    EDIT: And if you listen to the information, he quite correctly predicted 9-11 - there are several other sessions he did on this...
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    The first voice is the same as Bashar's and he says it EXACTLY the same as Bashar does. This is an audio anomaly, not some government operation.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    It could also be echo-feedback from the (bad) recording (quite common when two microphones are used ie one from Darryl and another from the questioner). I've attended a live Bashar Seminar and we were sitting in the front row almost close enough to reach out and touch him. IMO, he's the real deal and given this is such a poor recording, I don't really think anything useful can be gained from jumping to conclusions. (apart from the information). As there are hundreds of recordings available and at least one book downloadable from here I think you're making very premature (& incorrect) judgements from just one example.

    "Reading a single page from a 500 page book does not an expert make" - ME

    EDIT: And if you listen to the information, he quite correctly predicted 9-11 - there are several other sessions he did on this...
    you would not hear a back information given to Bashar from a live presentation when you are sitting near him, The piece would be in his ear and you would not be aware of it. There is a few example of this already, moslty with religious gurus in America.

    However, if Bashar is being fed the answers, then where does the one feeding the answers taking them from. The speech have to be quite well prepared, but.. the live answers have to be as fast in the background as they would be from Bashar. So the mystery remains, who is channelling Bashar, truly in the front stage or back stage?

    Here a debunker, James Randi, who debunks a psychic using an ear piece to get info and transmit it as if it were his own, making 4 millions$ a year with his fraudulent methods.

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    BASHAR - Blueprint for Change - A Message from Our Future (PDF)
    By Darryl Anka, transcribed by Luana Ewing

    241 pages, 990 kb - text only

    Quote This 'future voice' provides one of the clearest in-depth insights yet on how we create our experiences on this physical plane of existence, and how we can change these experiences for the better. It offers some simple working tools for achieving higher levels of love, joy and fulfillment. For anyone who desires to enhance their understanding of life, and discover how they can evolve in ways they desire, I highly recommend this book.
    - Mark Jones, former Editor, Free Spirit Magazine, Los Angeles, CA

    ===

    [ Mod-edit:
    Link to this book was removed, due to Copyright Infringement notice. Paul, 6 Feb 2017. ]
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    Well he must have been wearing invisible earphones, flash!
    Like I said, listen to the information (or read the book) - I'm not here to debate for those who argue without doing their "due research".

    It wasn't a pre-prepared speech - it was a live question and answer session as most of his live sessions are - and we met him directly afterwards. I think anyone would have noticed if he was wearing earplugs.

    Darryl has been doing this since the 80's and NO-ONE has proven him to be a fraud yet.
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    i know he has been there since the 90's and to tell the truth, I like him. But.... this does not stop me from wondering if it may be possible that there is fraud, it has to be discussed if any substantative information is found.

    I would very much like some of our specialist in studio taping and stage show could come up with an answer from the back voice in the recording. Could it be a technical itch, or is it fraud?

    Second: even if there is some back stage person feeding in Bashar, how can they come with those answers as fast as they do to answer the public. The mystery still remain even with an ear piece feeding Darryl.

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    Well he must have been wearing invisible earphones, flash!
    Like I said, listen to the information (or read the book) - I'm not here to debate for those who argue without doing their "due research".

    Darryl has been doing this since the 90's and NO-ONE has proven him to be a fraud yet.
    OH' it would be better to have a direct link to the book, weird things happens when i follow the link to the other Avalon thread you have given (the page cannot be found)
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    Works fine for me. Stop being so lazy - go to the thread - you'll find it

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    Quote Posted by Rachel (here)
    The first voice is the same as Bashar's and he says it EXACTLY the same as Bashar does. This is an audio anomaly, not some government operation.
    1. But why does he speak AFTERWARDS? If it was an audio anamoly wouldn't he speak first and then the anamoly occur (repeat) afterwards? But it's reverse...

    Can anyone provide examples of such an anamoly?

    2. If the voices follow the same tone and meter does that mean he couldn't mimic such?

    3. Doesn't have to be earpieces...could just as well be advance implant or remote tech.

    4. If we're dealing with advance groups, Alien, AI or otherwise, then they could easily provide spontaneous responses. I can do this myself to varying degrees just by observing life closely and having lived long enough to see how things interrelate, etc. And using his or a human sounding voice can also be deliberate.

    5. I tend to like the guy and his messages too...but there are also unsettling elements about him as well.
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    Quote Posted by Rachel (here)
    The first voice is the same as Bashar's and he says it EXACTLY the same as Bashar does. This is an audio anomaly, not some government operation.
    1. But why does he speak AFTERWARDS? If it was an audio anamoly wouldn't he speak first and then the anamoly occur (repeat) afterwards? But it's reverse...

    Can anyone provide examples of such an anamoly?

    2. If the voices follow the same tone and meter does that mean he couldn't mimic such?

    3. Doesn't have to be earpieces...could just as well be advance implant or remote tech.

    4. I tend to like the guy and his messages too...but there are also unsettling elements about him as well.
    No idea bro, all I know is they're both his voice. I have a good ear for voices, good enough that listening to it is proof for me, however, I understand it can only be offered as anecedotal evidence for others.
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    It seems to me OMG that you're completely missing the point (and the above posts). We're not here to spoon feed you. Do some research - we've done ours. You CANNOT absorb information by mental osmosis. Read the book. Listen to MANY more of his audios before you create a thread that belongs on BEFORE IT'S NEWS
    (... and perhaps stop looking for a "conspiracy" where there isn't one?)
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    OMG, I just now did a quick search on reverse echo;



    That doesn't prove Darryl isn't being fed the words but it does show the effect can be created.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    It seems to me OMG that you're completely missing the point (and the above posts). We're not here to spoon feed you. Do some research - we've done ours. You CANNOT absorb information by mental osmosis. Read the book. Listen to MANY more of his audios before you create a thread that belongs on BEFORE IT'S NEWS
    (... and perhaps stop looking for a "conspiracy" where there isn't one?)
    Cheers
    You're a rude one lol... How's that been working out for you?

    Not exactly sure what you're talking about with me "missing the point" and "spoon feeding"...

    FYI: I've listened to countless videos of Bashar. And I'm not interested in reading another book right now. I have too many books on my plate as is.

    I'm open...I'd be happy to see ANY examples of an audio/video recording where the speakers voice echo proceeded his own. Particularly in the same period as that which is in question. That would be a good start to defuse any ridiculous "conspiracy".


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    I think OMG is right to question Bashar. I don't align with his information because he makes predictions far into the future. The situation is too dynamic for one single timeline to manifest. For this reason, I do not pay much attention to his videos.

    http://creationislove.com/planetary-...16-and-beyond/

    On the other hand, I don't see the point in dedicating much time to debunking him, when his audience is relatively tiny. Best make energetic progress doing something positive.
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    We Elves are cheeky perhaps OMG and for the record (as a tough - ex Uni lecturer, it's worked out just fine, thank you

    Sound anomalies - well I'd ask an audio technician about that

    OK, you don't have enough time to read his book. Fine (then you're missing a lot about what "Bashar" is all about). Honestly? I don't care if it's "Bashar" talking or coming from Darryl himself (or some mysterious hidden stooge talking to him via earplugs). The information imparted is what's really important, which is entirely up to the individual as to how they interpret it.

    Some channels are complete frauds. No argument from me on that. And I've been studying this "stuff" for 50 years. Whatever Bashar is (or isn't), what he's got to say is worth listening to... IMO.

    And that's all I'm really prepared to say about it.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    it would be better to have a direct link to the book, weird things happens when i follow the link to the other Avalon thread you have given (the page cannot be found)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Works fine for me. Stop being so lazy - go to the thread - you'll find it
    BASHAR - Blueprint for Change - A Message from Our Future (PDF)

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    Nothing wrong with being skeptical btw;



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    I think it's more than fair to say that after listening to as many videos of Bashar over the years that it would be a misaligned presumption to assume that I'm missing his message.

    P.s. And I've invested over 50 years myself...for what that's worth...

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    Thank you OMG for this heads up. It's interesting that although i enjoyed listening to Bashar and Abraham Hicks that i always FELT afterwards cold and flat like the words never lifted my spirit. I enjoyed the visual and aural spectacle but my spirit was never nourished which funnily why I haven't gravitated towards these type of videos. And you dear OMG are a Godsend. Cheers old boy/girl.

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    Bashar I am not a fan but I allow other to like or dislike him

    For me personal his message is you have to create the conditions to get what you what ie allow it in and do positive things and your dream will come it that the gist of his message

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