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    I assume this is not a thing since it appeared on my papers web site.

    Plant 9, newly discovered, can cause great harm to Earth.
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    Quote Posted by mgray (here)

    Planet 9, newly discovered, can cause great harm to Earth.
    Maybe! But if its orbital period is ~20,000 years, it's not going to be anywhere near here for thousands of years yet.

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    Planet Nine could be found by the end of the YEAR: Dark Energy Survey data is being used to identify the mysterious object 'tugging' on Nasa's Cassini
    US astronomers said in January they may have found a ninth planet
    Now researchers all over the world are trying to track it down
    Gravitational 'tug' on Nasa's Cassini orbiting Saturn is being used
    By luck, the Dark Energy Survey (DES) could also help find the planet
    By ABIGAIL BEALL FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 11:20, 7 April 2016 | UPDATED: 15:32, 7 April 2016


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz45DpYWuRR
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    When I started 'waking up' about 5 years ago, I dived into the 'Cassiopeian Experiment' writings by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, when they still had all the excerpts available on the web. Unfortunately, that is not the case now.

    After MUCH reading, I happened upon two gems, relevant to this thread.

    1) The Sun is 1/2 of a binary system.
    2) "perpendicularity will be restored" (relative to Earth's current tilt of 15 deg.)

    That's about all I have.. but, after reading and watching many items, I STRONGLY believe that this issue is well known amongst the upper 'echelon' of humanity. In fact, in Bill Cooper's presentation at the 1985 MUFON conference, he alludes to the fact that the aliens with whom the military were in contact with, gave them stunning information that they could not believe, but shortly thereafter, the building of D.U.M.B. bases were begun in earnest, and continue to this day.

    I also strongly feel there are other benevolent races who have tried to get us to take a more spiritual approach, as this is the Only means by which a catastrophe may be averted. Please see this recent post for further explanation:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1059283

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    Quote Posted by Kindred (here)

    2) "perpendicularity will be restored" (relative to Earth's current tilt of 15 deg.)
    Just a side note! That would not be a good thing.

    We'd lose all our seasons, and the global ecosystem would be plunged into destructive chaos.


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    Quote Posted by mgray (here)

    Planet 9, newly discovered, can cause great harm to Earth.
    Maybe! But if its orbital period is ~20,000 years, it's not going to be anywhere near here for thousands of years yet.
    What if they are not being honest about where they think it is , after all Cassini has been part of the apparatus helping to work what they have found and it was launched around 19 years ago.

    Granted it does take a while to get in position but It may bring into question the possible true role of Cassini apart from the fantastic pictures it takes.
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    Cassini has been part of the apparatus helping to work what they have found and it was launched around 19 years ago.
    Note that the math seemingly verifying its existence (and probable location) was all computer-calculated, based on observed gravitational anomalies in other objects. The position of other smaller bodies in the Kuiper Belt could only really be explained by the presence of a massive, unknown body also out there somewhere. 'Planet 9' itself hasn't been located or photographed yet. (Or if it has, we've not yet been told about it!)

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Verdilac (here)

    Cassini has been part of the apparatus helping to work what they have found and it was launched around 19 years ago.
    Note that the math seemingly verifying its existence (and probable location) was all computer-calculated, based on observed gravitational anomalies in other objects. The position of other smaller bodies in the Kuiper Belt could only really be explained by the presence of a massive, unknown body also out there somewhere. 'Planet 9' itself hasn't been located or photographed yet. (Or if it has, we've not yet been told about it!)
    I stand corrected, I did actually think that Cassini was part of the apparatus .There may be more to Cassini than we think but you are correct Bill it wasn't my intention to mislead as I cannot find any reference to Cassini in the 1st wave of reports which is now bugging me as I was sure I heard the probe mentioned . I did however read the piece below a few days ago from Universe today that was published on the 6th, then a day or so later on the 8th NASA say the opposite .

    http://www.universetoday.com/128273/...d-planet-nine/

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/sat...tical-planet-9

    It feels a little bit like being kept in the dark to a certain extent as Cassini is mentioned, I would like to know Universe todays source of information and the story behind it as these stories appear then NASA denies them then they vanish.

    Also the same story was apparently mentioned on space.com, different groups have analysed information from the probe going back chronologically and found effects on the probe. Did they publish too soon before NASA sanctioned such a release?

    The guy telling the information ,to his credit he as picked the story on space.com up & mentioned it

    I was quite certain Cassini was employed in the gathering or the information but as said above & in other posts they said it was all done by computer, is there anyone out there that remembers the 1st wave of reports mentioning Cassini or have I crossed my wires ?

    I would like to get to the bottom of this and move forward.
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    Sience Article regarding calculations and the mass. Posted it already here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1058188

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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    The Location of Planet X - R.S. Harrington
    Astronomical Journal (ISSN 0004-6256), vol. 96, Oct. 1988, p. 1476-1478.


    I personally believe this "Planet 9" is the same object mentioned in the link above.....and the reason it is now becoming talked about about so much now is that "they" know it will soon be able to be seen and it can't be hidden and/or covered up any more.

    I also believe the model 'they" are allowing to be released to the public is not accurate, nor is the orbital path accurate, nor is the time frame of its orbit.......since when have "they" ever told us the truth?!?!

    The ancients had no political or greedy reasons to lie about this object as the scumbags do today...."they" know it will be seen soon so they have to come up with a new lie, especially showing that it will never come close to being a threat to Earth, basically saying "yes it's there, all will be fine, go back to sleep folk's".

    Although this is just my opinion, if I am somewhat correct about this, that would mean it is a lot closer than "they" are letting on it is; notice in the model drawing that they are showing it being at about it's farthest distance from Earth?????? Another reason I think it's close.....(the rule of opposites apply when dealing with liars!).

    Great thread by the way!
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    New Evidence of Undiscovered, Mysterious Planet Nine Befuddles Astronomers

    By David on 5 May 2016 GMT

    ‘For the second time this year, world-class astronomers claimed to have proven
    the existence of Planet Nine despite being baffled about the planet’s genesis and
    uncertainty of its present location.

    On Tuesday, astronomers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
    (CfA) presented new research pointing to the existence of an undiscovered ninth
    planet in the Solar System.’

    Read more: New Evidence of Undiscovered, Mysterious Planet Nine Befuddles Astronomers

    http://sputniknews.com/world/2016050...n-harvard.html
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    Planet 9 Explained and Explored with Astronomer Konstantin Batygin



    Published on 27 Jan 2016


    Planet 9 is the biggest astronomical “discovery” of recent memory, and the
    process of calculating its existence is revealed with astronomer Konstantin
    Batygin. When speculation of a large body of mass with an usual orbital
    alignment was detected, astronomers took to computer simulations,
    mathematical equations and a call to the public to discover the small
    gassous giant on the fringes of our solar system. Batygin breaks down this
    hypothesized planet that is estimated to be between 1 to 10 times the mass
    of the Earth, along with the Kuiper Belt, the discovery of Neptune, and why
    Dr. Mike Brown deemed Pluto no longer a planet in this episode of Antidote
    hosted by Michael Parker.

    GUEST BIO:
    Coined the next “physics rock star” by Forbes, Konstantin Batygin immigrated
    to the U.S. from Russia at age 13 and currently works as an Assistant Professor
    of Planetary Sciences at Caltech. Batygin landed on the 2015 Forbes list of 30
    scientists under 30 who are changing the world with an unprecedented record
    of publishing 21 papers as first author. He's discovered planets in other solar
    systems and solved a centuries-old puzzle: yes, it turns out eventually the
    planets in the solar system will careen away from the sun. Batygin also plays
    in a rock band.

    ADD’L LINKS:
    http://web.gps.caltech.edu/~kbatygin/...
    https://www.gps.caltech.edu/content/k...
    http://web.gps.caltech.edu/~kbatygin/...
    www.thelip.tv
    https://www.facebook.com/weareantidote
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuUJ...
    Antidote Playlist on Youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTvQv...
    Antidote Highlights Playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWarG...

    EPISODE BREAKDOWN:
    00:01 Welcoming Konstantin Batygin to Antidote.
    01:19 Planet 9.
    05:45 Locating Planet 9.
    07:09 Naming the planet.
    09:15 Early skepticism, Neptune and planet discovery.
    11:29 Becoming an astronomer.
    14:17 Planet 9’s orbit, the The Kuiper Belt and Sedna.
    18:25 The Kuiper Belt.
    21:35 Dr. Mike Brown, Pluto & gravitational dominance.
    24:13 Working with Dr. Mike Brown.
    25:39 The need for planet X & the planet paths of Neptune & Uranus.
    28:35 Pushback and response from the scientific community.
    30:28 How to find Planet 9 & the Subaru Telescope.
    31:57 Architecting our solar system & Jupiter.
    34:30 Binary systems and companion stars.
    35:32 Spirituality and science.
    37:04 Music & Motorhead.
    38:08 Thank you and goodbye.
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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    Are the majority of people agreeing that something like a planet x is indeed coming in? If we are accepting of this fact when will the PTB announce this fact? Or did they already leak official info? Will the mainstream pick up the story before we can actually see something coming in or will they be complicit with the elites time frame? If it is indeed coming in we should know for sure soon. Just heard too many naysayers to know what is the reality on this but leaning towards something coming.

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    I skimmed the thread. Did anyone post anything about this:



    More articles here: http://yowusa.com/planetx/2012/planetx-2012-03a/1.shtml

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    This is a New and Most Interesting article.

    Now, and much more significant than the explanation for the position of other smaller bodies in the Kuiper Belt, they believe they may have finally solved the puzzle for Solar Obliquity (the six-degree axial tilt of the Sun) which can only be explained in one of two ways – either as a result of an asymmetry that was present during the formation of Solar System, or because of an external source of gravity.
    Elizabeth Bailey, CalTech:
    Quote We simulated the solar system’s motion. Planet 9 forces the solar system to slowly wobble. If Planet 9 is out there, we are in the process of wobbling right now, as we speak! But it happens very slowly, a few degrees tilt per billion years. Meanwhile the sun is not wobbling much, so it looks like the sun is tilted. A range of Planet 9 parameters cause exactly the configuration of the sun that we see today.
    I'm beginning to believe now that all of this news about evidence of a Ninth Planet may be what I refer to as "A Slow Leak" - About something of which has been discovered/confirmed (by modern science) at least as far back as the 70s, and maybe more - of information which has been kept from the public.

    After all this time keeping this information a secret one can only speculate on the reason WHY they would want to disclose it at this time. But I can tell you that they would NEVER-EVER admit to withholding and keeping secret such important information from the public, so therefore that's why it's being released as a 'New Discovery'.

    Whenever people holler for 'Disclosure' for years and years, and (if/when) it ever comes, this is what you can expect: Always from the Present Tense (as a 'New Discovery', etc) and very little to nothing from the Past Tense (that which has been covered up and denied).

    Anyway, please read through the article and also pay particular attention to the graphics (Some you have already seen, but not all).

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    EVIDENCE CONTINUES TO MOUNT FOR NINTH PLANET

    26 OCT 2016



    Ever since its existence was first proposed, the evidence for Planet 9 continues to mount. But of course, said evidence has been entirely indirect, consisting mostly of studies that show how the orbits of Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs) are consistent with a large object crossing their path. However, evidence is also emerging that comes from the center of the Solar System itself.

    This latest line of evidence comes from Caltech, where researchers Elizabeth Bailey, Konstantin Batygin, and Michael E. Brown (the latter of whom were the ones who first proposed Planet 9’s existence) have published a new study linking solar obliquity to the existence of Planet 9. Essentially, they claim that the axial tilt of the Sun (6°) could be due to the gravitational influence a large planet with an extreme orbit.

    To recap, the issue of Planet was first raised in 2014 by astronomers Scott Sheppard and Chadwick Trujillo. Noting the similarities in the orbits of distant Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs), they postulated that a massive object was likely influencing them. This was followed in 2016 by Konstantin Batygin and Michael E. Brown of Caltech suggesting that an undiscovered planet was the culprit.



    Calling this body Planet 9, they speculated that it had a mass 10 times greater than that of Earth, and took 20,000 years to complete a single orbit of our Sun. They also speculated that its orbit was tilted relative to the other planets of our Solar System, and extremely eccentric. And little by little, examinations of other Solar bodies have shown that Planet 9 is likely out there.

    For the sake of their study – “Solar Obliquity Induced by Planet Nine“, which was recently published in the Astrophysical Journal – the research team (led by Bailey) looked to the obliquity of the Sun. As they state in their paper, the six-degree axial tilt of the Sun can only be explained in one of two ways – either as a result of an asymmetry that was present during the formation of Solar System, or because of an external source of gravity.

    To test this hypothesis, Bailey, Batygin and Brown used an analytic model to test how interactions between Planet 9 and the rest of the Solar System would effect their orbits over the course of the last 4.5 billion years. As Elizabeth Bailey, a graduate student at Caltech’s Division of Geological and Planetary Sciences and the lead author on the paper, told Universe Today via email:
    “We simulated the solar system’s motion. Planet 9 forces the solar system to slowly wobble. If Planet 9 is out there, we are in the process of wobbling right now, as we speak! But it happens very slowly, a few degrees tilt per billion years. Meanwhile the sun is not wobbling much, so it looks like the sun is tilted. A range of Planet 9 parameters cause exactly the configuration of the sun that we see today.


    [Click On Photo For Animation]
    In the end, they concluded that the Sun’s obliquity could only be explained by the influence of giant planet with an extreme orbit, one that is consistent with the characteristics attributed to Planet 9. In other words, the existence of Planet 9 offers an explanation for the Sun’s peculiar behavior, something which has remained a mystery until now.
    “Planet Nine was first hypothesized because the orbits of objects in the outer reaches of the solar system are confined in physical space,” said Bailey. “Those orbits would be all over the place unless something is currently stopping them. The only explanation so far is Planet Nine. For over 150 years, people have wondered why the sun is tilted. Personally I’d say that Planet 9 offers the first satisfying explanation. If it exists, it tilted the sun.”
    In addition, the subject of Planet 9 was also raised at the joint 48th meeting of the American Astronomical Society’s Division for Planetary Sciences and 11th European Planetary Science Congress, which took place from Oct 16th to 21st in Pasadena, California. During the course of the meeting, researchers from Arizona University shared the results of their own study, which was published back in August.

    The Arizona research team was led by Renu Malhotra, a Regents’ Professor of Planetary Sciences in the University of Arizona’s Lunar and Planetary Lab. For the sake of their study, titled “Corralling a Distant Planet with Extreme Resonant Kuiper Belt Objects“, they examined the orbital patterns of four extreme Kuiper Belt Objects (KBOs), which have the longest orbital periods of any known objects.



    According to their calculations, the presence of a massive planet – one that would complete an orbit around the Sun every 17,117 years, and at an average distance (semimajor axis) of 665 AU – would explain the orbital pattern of these four objects. These results were consistent with the estimates concerning the orbital period of Planet 9, its orbital path, and it mass.
    “We analyzed the data of these most distant Kuiper Belt objects,” Malhotra said, “and noticed something peculiar, suggesting they were in some kind of resonances with an unseen planet… Our paper provides more specific estimates for the mass and orbit that this planet would have, and, more importantly, constraints on its current position within its orbit.”
    Looks like Planet 9’s days of hiding in the outer Solar System may be numbered!

    Further Reading: arXiv, Caltech, Europlanet
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    You know, if I didn't realize that I was reading a scientific article, I could easily mistake this as an article from Nancy Lieder or Marshall Masters!

    On a more serious note though, when you watch the Animated Graphic which depicts a 'theoretical proposal' of Planet 9's orbit of the sun, you'll see that it only enters the Outer Solar System (beyond Neptune) and never enters the Inner Solar System which probably wouldn't cause a lot of problems. Unless, of course, it decided to throw some very large rocks at us!

    However, there is something of which not many have mentioned (yet) that could possibly be of much greater danger to the Inner Solar System. And that is what it might be bringing with it?

    We all should know by now that any body in space that is of sufficient size and/or mass will invariably have at least one or more satellites orbiting it (moons, planets, etc). If such a satellite or two does exist around this planet 9, and depending upon it's orbit and distance from said Planet, it could be entirely feasible for this satellite to pass through our Inner Solar System. Not a pretty thought, eh?

    It's always been very interesting to me how similar stories are told in Mythology from continent to continent and across many cultures and languages:

    Babylonians – Marduk
    Sumerian – Nibiru
    Aztec – Hercolubus
    Christian Bible – Wormwood
    The Kolbrin Bible – The Destroyer

    Is the BASIS for all these similar Myths about to meet Science?

    p.s. In case anyone missed it, go back and take another (close) look at the last picture (Artist's Impression) in the article. I did not add, or edit in any way, this graphic. It was provided by Robin Dienel of Carnegie Science.

    Is it a joke?

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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    The artist rendition is rather interesting, you are right

    a pink and gold planet
    a golden glow
    a dark cross on it

    add to it that it probably has some moons
    its orbit influences the rocks in Kuipler belt - maybe pulling them in its path
    and its orbit is 20,000 years - they may be off a few thousands, who knows

    and you have Nibiru... finally!!!!
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    I don't understand why they don't have technology capable of detecting everything out there like radar blips on a screen. Surely we don't have to go through all this messing around with detecting perturbations in the orbits of other bodies, in this day and age?

    Fuzzy photos syndrome, I guess.
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    Hi Flash,
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    a dark cross on it
    More specifically: A Dark 'X'.

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    I'm beginning to believe now that all of this news about evidence of a Ninth Planet may be what I refer to as "A Slow Leak" - About something of which has been discovered/confirmed (by modern science) at least as far back as the 70s, and maybe more - of information which has been kept from the public.
    Interesting suggestion ...
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