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    It's a shame that an investment banker bites the dust ,.... Macron left his job as an Inspector of Finances for France and took a position at Rothschild & Cie Banque. This was 2008 right at the big crash ..... The U.S. bailed out the big institutions with the citizens tax money ... much went to Europe. When ask in the hearings who got what , the answer was " we don't have to tell you "

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    Hopefully Macron will be shown the exist door, and Marine Le Pen given the chance to govern France.

    viva la France

    Canada is next viva la Canada


    Macron Backs Down, but the New French Revolution is Just Beginning!!!



    Dr. Steve Turley
    Published on Dec 4, 2018
    Here’s why the French uprising may just be getting started!!!


    And from Breitbart:

    Macron Considers State of Emergency After France Experiences Worst Civil Unrest Since 1968
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    President Macron was met with jeers and calls for his resignation by bystanders as he toured the damage along the Champs-Élysée on Sunday morning after his return from G20 in Buenos Aires......

    The populist right-wing leader of the National Rally Marine Le Pen and far-leftist Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the leader of the Unsubmissive France party, have called for Parliament to be dissolved and fresh elections to be held.

    Link: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...zen.yandex.com


    BREAKING ! French Police Remove helmets and stand with the yellow vest demonstators



    Sir Cumference
    Published on Nov 30, 2018
    30th Nov 2018 - French Riot Police remove helmets and stand with the crowd.... meanwhile in Belgium, Yellow vest protestors gather in the street.... its starting to happen
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    French Farmers Sow Grass in Fields to Protest China Buying Up Thousands of Acres of Countryside


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    French farmers lit flares and sowed grass seeds on land bought up by firms from China, complaining locals are being squeezed out of the countryside by foreign investors.

    Around a hundred farmers converged on land near Châtillon-sur-Indre in the Loire valley, where China’s Hongyang consortium has bought more than 2,000 acres of farmland.

    It bought 4,200 acres in the region in 2016, and all told, the Chinese have purchased an estimated €76 billion (£68bn/$88bn) in French land since 2010, including a large number of Bordeaux vineyards — up from 30 châteaux in 2012 to over 160 today, according to The Times.
    “The land is there to provide for farmers’ families and to produce food,” complained Laurent Pinatel, a spokesman for the Small Farmers’ Confederation.
    “The [Chinese] owners have come here to make a profit, to speculate on agriculture while monopolising the land,” Mr Pinatel.
    Left-wing MP Jean-Paul Dufrègne was supportive, commenting:
    “Land prices are being pushed up to three times the market value.”
    He added:
    “The consequence is simple. It makes land unaffordable to young farmers.”
    Dufrègne is pressuring France’s globalist president, Emmanuel Macron, to regulate Chinese land purchases — but his background as a banker at Rothschild & Cie and globalist political views makes him an unlikely champion for such a cause.

    Across the English Channel, the United Kingdom is experiencing a similar phenomenon — although it is more pronounced in urban areas than the countryside.

    Reporting has focused on how the Qatari dictatorship, in particular, has bought up huge swathes of the British capital, with the Daily Mail noting in 2017 that their 24 million square feet of property puts them ahead of the City of London and even Queen Elizabeth II in terms of total real estate.

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    This has not only helped to drive prices in the capital to astronomical heights, but left the British government in a difficult position diplomatically — as the Qatari government is accused of being a major sponsor of radical Islamic terrorism internationally, and has been increasingly isolated by the United States and even Saudi Arabia.

    For those that detest Nationalism, this is the reality of the globalism the elite are pushing. Maybe nationalism is not such a bad deal for the time being.

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    Same phenomenon here, Chinese buying lots of realestate
    and lots of land, driving house pricing up and letting farmers starve. Their revenue is so low that many have to abandon farming and go on welfare while Chinese and other huge corporations are buying the farmlands.

    Chinese will have no problems with imposing their will on us and with letting us starve forbprofits. They will be worst than our elite, and yes, hard to imagine after what we did to third world countries, but it can be worst.
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    Say what you will about the French/France, but unlike the U.S. and many other countries, the French don't sit on their asses when they're getting the shaft from their so-called leaders. They don't complain on the Internet, endlessly theorizing

    They get out in the street and make some noise. And they don't give up!!

    They're courageous, tenacious and absolutely admirable.

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    I remember back in the day in the US when hippies, Vietnam vets, members of SDS, etc. would watch in awe what the French protesters were doing, for inspiration and guidance.
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    Macron gives in, but will it be enough to stop the protests?

    Quote Paris abandons fuel tax hike after sweeping protests – French PM

    The French government says it has dropped the fuel tax hike plan that has sparked massive Yellow Vests protests and eventually got suspended with a half-year moratorium Tuesday – at least for the 2019 budget.

    “The government is ready for dialogue and is showing it because this tax increase has been dropped from the 2019 budget bill,” French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe told the lower house of parliament Wednesday.

    Philippe did not clarify whether Paris might re-introduce the hike in a budget update later in 2019.

    https://www.rt.com/news/445681-franc...hike-protests/
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    Uhhh, yeah..... I wouldn't want to be in Paris right now.

    It looks like things are escalating?

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    I'm proud of them. In America, if we did that, we'd all be dead or in jail, and then dead.
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    Yellow Vests Rise Against Neo-liberal King Macron

    Diana Johnstone Consortium News
    Wed, 05 Dec 2018 00:01 UTC


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    For centuries, the "left" hoped popular movements would lead to changes for the better. Today, many leftists seem terrified of popular movements for change, convinced "populism" must lead to "fascism." But it needn't be so, says Diana Johnstone.
    Every automobile in France is supposed to be equipped with a yellow vest. This is so that in case of accident or breakdown on a highway, the driver can put it on to ensure visibility and avoid getting run over.

    So the idea of wearing your yellow vest to demonstrate against unpopular government measures caught on quickly. The costume was at hand and didn't have to be provided by Soros for some more or less manufactured "color revolution". The symbolism was fitting: in case of socio-economic emergency, show that you don't want to be run over.

    As everybody knows, what set off the protest movement was yet another rise in gasoline taxes. But it was immediately clear that much more was involved. The gasoline tax was the last straw in a long series of measures favoring the rich at the expense of the majority of the population. That is why the movement achieved almost instant popularity and support.

    The Voices of the People
    The Yellow Vests held their first demonstrations on Saturday, November 17, on the Champs-Elysées in Paris. It was totally unlike the usual trade union demonstrations, well organized to march down the boulevard between the Place de la République and the Place de la Bastille, or the other way around, carrying banners and listening to speeches from leaders at the end. The Gilets Jaunes just came, with no organization, no leaders to tell them where to go or to harangue the crowd. They were just there, in the yellow vests, angry and ready to explain their anger to any sympathetic listener.

    Briefly, the message was this:
    we can't make ends meet. The cost of living keeps going up, and our incomes keep going down. We just can't take it any more. The government must stop, think and change course.
    But so far, the reaction of the government was to send police to spray torrents of tear gas on the crowd, apparently to keep the people at a distance from the nearby Presidential residence, the Elysee Palace. President Macron was somewhere else, apparently considering himself above and beyond it all.

    But those who were listening could learn a lot about the state of France today. Especially in the small towns and rural areas, where many protesters came from. Things are much worse than officials and media in Paris have let on.

    There were young women who were working seven days a week and despaired of having enough money to feed and clothe their children.

    People were angry but ready to explain very clearly the economic issues.

    Colette, age 83, doesn't own a car, but explained to whoever would listen that the steep raise of gasoline prices would also hurt people who don't drive, by affecting prices of food and other necessities. She had done the calculations and figured it would cost a retired person 80 euros per month.

    "Macron didn't run on the promise to freeze pensions", recalled a Yellow Vest, but that is what he has done, along with increasing solidarity taxes on pensioners.

    A significant and recurring complaint concerned the matter of health care. France has long had the best public health program in the world, but this is being steadily undermined to meet the primary need of capital: profit. In the past few years, there has been a growing government campaign to encourage, and finally to oblige, people to subscribe to a "mutuelle", that is, a private health insurance, ostensibly to fill "the gaps" not covered by France's universal health coverage. The "gaps" can be the 15% that is not covered for ordinary illnesses (grave illnesses are covered 100%), or for medicines taken off the "covered" list, or for dental work, among other things. The "gaps" to fill keep expanding, along with the cost of subscribing to the mutuelle. In reality, this program, sold to the public as modernizing improvement, is a gradual move toward privatization of health care. It is a sneaky method of opening the whole field of public health to international financial capital investment. This gambit has not fooled ordinary people and is high on the list of complaints by the Gilets Jaunes.

    The degradation of care in the public hospitals is another complaint. There are fewer and fewer hospitals in rural areas, and one must "wait long enough to die" in emergency rooms. Those who can afford it are turning to private hospitals. But most can't. Nurses are overworked and underpaid. When one hears what nurses have to endure, one is reminded that this is indeed a noble profession.

    In all this I was reminded of a young woman we met at a public picnic in southwestern France last summer. She cares for elderly people who live at home alone in rural areas, driving from one to another, to feed them, bathe them, offer a moment of cheerful company and understanding. She loves her vocation, loves helping old people, although it barely allows her to make a living. She will be among those who will have to pay more to get from one patient to the next.

    People pay taxes willingly when they are getting something for it. But not when the things they are used to are being taken away. The tax evaders are the super-rich and the big corporations with their batteries of lawyers and safe havens, or intruders like Amazon and Google, but ordinary French people have been relatively disciplined in paying taxes in return for excellent public services: optimum health care, first class public transport, rapid and efficient postal service, free university education. But all that is under assault from the reign of financial capital, called "neo-liberalism" here. In rural areas, more and more post offices, schools and hospitals are shut down, unprofitable train service is discontinued as "free competition" is introduced following European Union directives - measures which oblige people to drive their cars more than ever. Especially when huge shopping centers drain small towns of their traditional shops.


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    Incoherent Energy Policies
    And the tax announced by the government - an additional 6.6 cents per liter for diesel and an additional 2.9 centers per liter of gasoline - are only the first steps in a series of planned increases over the next years. The measures are supposed to incite people to drive less or even better, to scrap their old vehicles and buy nice new electric cars.

    More and more "governance" is an exercise in social engineering by technocrats who know what is best. This particular exercise goes directly opposite to an earlier government measure of social engineering which used economic incitements to get people to buy cars running on diesel. Now the government has changed its mind. Over half of personal vehicles still run on diesel, although the percentage has been dropping. Now their owners are told to go buy an electric car instead. But people living on the edge simply can't afford the switch.

    Besides, the energy policy is incoherent. In theory, the "green" economy includes shutting down France's many nuclear power plants. Without them, where would the electricity come from to run the electric cars? And nuclear power is "clean", not CO2. So what is going on? People wonder.

    The most promising alternative sources of energy in France are the strong tides along northern coasts. But last July, the Tidal Energies project on the Normandy coast was suddenly dropped because it wasn't profitable - not enough customers. This is symptomatic of what is wrong with the current government. Major new industrial projects are almost never profitable at first, which is why they need government support and subsidies to get going, with a view to the future. Such projects were supported under de Gaulle, raising France to the status of major industrial power, and providing unprecedented prosperity for the population as a whole. But the Macron government is not investing in the future nor doing anything to preserve industries that remain. The key French energy corporation Alstom was sold to General Electric under his watch.

    Indeed, it is perfectly hypocritical to call the French gas tax an "ecotax" since the returns from a genuine ecotax would be invested to develop clean energies - such as tidal power plants. Rather, the benefits are earmarked to balance the budget, that is, to serve the government debt. The Macronian gas tax is just another austerity measure - along with cutting back public services and "selling the family jewels", that is, selling potential money-makers like Alstom, port facilities and the Paris airports.

    The Government Misses the Point
    Initial government responses showed that they weren't listening. They dipped into their pool of clichés to denigrate something they didn't want to bother to understand.

    President Macron's first reaction was to guilt-trip the protesters by invoking the globalists' most powerful argument for imposing unpopular measures: global warming. Whatever small complaints people may have, he indicated, that is nothing compared to the future of the planet.

    This did not impress people who, yes, have heard all about climate change and care as much as anyone for the environment, but who are obliged to retort: "I'm more worried about the end of the month than about the end of the world."

    After the second Yellow Vest Saturday, November 25, which saw more demonstrators and more tear gas, the Minister in charge of the budget, Gérard Darmanin, declared that what had demonstrated on the Champs-Elysée was "la peste brune", the brown plague, meaning fascists. (For those who enjoy excoriating the French as racist, it should be noted that Darmanin is of Algerian working class origins). This remark caused an uproar of indignation that revealed just how great is public sympathy for the movement - over 70% approval by latest polls, even after uncontrolled vandalism. Macron's Minister of the Interior, Christophe Castaner, was obliged to declare that government communication had been badly managed. Of course, that is the familiar technocratic excuse: we are always right, but it is all a matter of our "communication", not of the facts on the ground.

    Maybe I have missed something, but of the many interviews I have listened to, I have not heard one word that would fall into the categories of "far right", much less "fascism" - or even that indicated any particular preference in regard to political parties. These people are wholly concerned with concrete practical issues. Not a whiff of ideology - remarkable in Paris!

    Some people ignorant of French history and eager to exhibit their leftist purism have suggested that the Yellow Vests are dangerously nationalistic because they occasionally wave French flags and sing La Marseillaise. That simply means that they are French. Historically, the French left is patriotic, especially when it is revolting against the aristocrats and the rich or during the Nazi Occupation. ( The exception was the student uprising of May 1968, which was not a revolt of the poor but a revolt in a time of prosperity in favor of greater personal freedom: "it is forbidden to forbid". The May '68 generation has turned out to be the most anti-French generation in history, for reasons that can't be dealt with here. To some extent, the Yellow Vests mark a return of the people after half a century of scorn from the liberal intelligentsia.) It is just a way of saying, We are the people, we do the work, and you must listen to our grievances. To be bad, "nationalism" must be aggressive toward other nations. This movement is not attacking anybody, it is strictly staying home.

    The Weakness of Macron
    The Yellow Vests have made clear to the whole world that Emmanuel Macron was an artificial product sold to the electorate by an extraordinary media campaign.

    Macron was the rabbit magically pulled out of a top hat, sponsored by what must be called the French oligarchy. After catching the eye of established king-maker Jacques Attali, the young Macron was given a stint at the Rothschild bank where he could quickly gain a small fortune, ensuring his class loyalty to his sponsors. Media saturation and the scare campaign against "fascist" Marine LePen (who moreover flubbed her major debate) put Macron in office. He had met his wife when she was teaching his theater class, and now he gets to play President.

    The mission assigned to him by his sponsors was clear. He must carry through more vigorously the "reforms" (austerity measures) already undertaken by previous governments, which had often dawdled at hastening the decline of the social State.

    And beyond that, Macron was supposed to "save Europe". Saving Europe means saving the European Union from the quagmire in which it finds itself.

    This is why cutting expenses and balancing the budget is his obsession. Because that's what he was chosen to do by the oligarchy that sponsored his candidacy. He was chosen by the financial oligarchy above all to save the European Union from threatening disintegration caused by the euro. The treaties establishing the EU and above all the common currency, the euro, have created an imbalance between member states that is unsustainable. The irony is that previous French governments, starting with Mitterrand, are largely responsible for this state of affairs. In a desperate and technically ill-examined effort to keep newly unified Germany from becoming the dominant power in Europe, the French insisted on binding Germany to France by a common currency. Reluctantly, the Germans agreed to the euro - but only on German terms. The result is that Germany has become the unwilling creditor of equally unwilling EU member states, Italy, Spain, Portugal and of course, ruined Greece. The financial gap between Germany and its southern neighbors keeps expanding, which causes ill will on all sides.

    Germany doesn't want to share economic power with states it considers irresponsible spendthrifts. So Macron's mission is to show Germany that France, despite its flagging economy, is "responsible", by squeezing the population in order to pay interest on the debt. Macron's idea is that the politicians in Berlin and the bankers in Frankfurt will be so impressed that they will turn around and say, well done Emmanuel, we are ready to throw our wealth into a common pot for the benefit of all 27 Member States. And that is why Macron will stop at nothing to balance the budget, to make the Germans love him.

    So far, the Macron magic is not working on the Germans, and it's driving his own people into the streets.

    Or are they his own people? Does Macron really care about his run of the mill compatriots who just work for a living? The consensus is that he does not.

    Macron is losing the support both of the people in the streets and the oligarchs who sponsored him. He is not getting the job done.

    Macron's rabbit-out-of-the hat political ascension leaves him with little legitimacy, once the glow of glossy magazine covers wears off. With help from his friends, Macron invented his own party, La République en Marche, which doesn't mean much of anything but suggested action. He peopled his party with individuals from "civil society", often medium entrepreneurs with no political experience, plus a few defectors from either the Socialist or the Republican Parties, to occupy the most important government posts.

    The only well-known recruit from "civil society" was the popular environmental activist, Nicolas Hulot, who was given the post of Minister of Environment, but who abruptly resigned in a radio announcement last August, citing frustration.

    Macron's strongest supporter from the political class was Gérard Collomb, Socialist Mayor of Lyons, who was given the top cabinet post of Minister of Interior, in charge of national police. But shortly after Hulot left, Collomb said he was leaving too, to go back to Lyons. Macron entreated him to stay on, but on October 3, Collomb went ahead and resigned, with a stunning statement referring to "immense problems" facing his successor. In the "difficult neighborhoods" in the suburbs of major cities, he said, the situation is "very much degraded: it's the law of the jungle that rules, drug dealers and radical Islamists have taken the place of the Republic." Such suburbs need to be "reconquered".

    After such a job description, Macron was at a loss to recruit a new Interior Minister. He groped around and came up with a crony he had chosen to head his party, ex-Socialist Christophe Castaner. With a degree in criminology, Castaner's main experience qualifying him to head the national police is his close connection, back in his youth in the 1970s, with a Marseilles Mafioso, apparently due to his penchant for playing poker and drinking whiskey in illegal dens.

    Saturday, November 17, demonstrators were peaceful, but resented the heavy teargas attacks. Saturday November 25, things got a big rougher, and on Saturday December 1st, all hell broke loose. With no leaders and no service d'ordre (militants assigned to protect the demonstrators from attacks, provocations and infiltration), it was inevitable that casseurs (smashers) got into the act and started smashing things, looting shops and setting fires to trash cans, cars and even buildings. Not only in Paris, but all over France: from Marseilles to Brest, from Toulouse to Strasbourg. In the remote town of Puy en Velay, known for its chapel perched on a rock and its traditional lace-making, the Prefecture (national government authority) was set on fire. Tourist arrivals are cancelled and fancy restaurants are empty and department stores fear for their Christmas windows. The economic damages are enormous.

    And yet, support for the Yellow Vests remains high, probably because people are able to distinguish between those grieved citizens and the vandals who love to wreak destruction for its own sake.

    On Monday, there were suddenly fresh riots in the troubled suburbs that Collomb warned about as he retreated to Lyons. This was a new front for the national police, whose representatives let it be known that all this was getting to be much too much for them to cope with. Announcing a state of emergency is not likely to solve anything.

    Macron is a bubble that has burst. The legitimacy of his authority is very much in question. Yet he was elected in 2017 for a five year term, and his party holds a large majority in parliament that makes his destitution almost impossible.

    So what next? Despite having been sidelined by Macron's electoral victory in 2017, politicians of all hews are trying to recuperate the movement - but discreetly, because the Gilets Jaunes have made clear their distrust of all politicians. This is not a movement that seeks to take power. It simply seeks redress of its grievances. The government should have listened in the first place, accepted discussions and compromise. This gets more difficult as time goes on, but nothing is impossible.

    For some two or three hundred years, people one could call "left" hoped that popular movements would lead to changes for the better. Today, many leftists seem terrified of popular movements for change, convinced "populism" must lead to "fascism". This attitude is one of many factors indicating that the changes ahead will not be led by the left as it exists today. Those who fear change will not be there to help make it happen. But change is inevitable and it need not be for the worse.
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    Diana Johnstone is the author of Fools' Crusade: Yugoslavia, NATO, and Western Delusions. Her new book is Queen of Chaos: the Misadventures of Hillary Clinton. The memoirs of Diana Johnstone's father Paul H. Johnstone, From MAD to Madness, was published by Clarity Press, with her commentary. She can be reached at diana.johnstone@wanadoo.fr
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    ... took 'em over 2 centuries to get there 'em "globalists":

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    On the real history behind the french revolution and the french republic (which was later on used as a template for Russia, etc...)

    English speakers would need to use auto-translate... in short Marion Sigaut (a very interesting and courageous french historian) shows that the revolution was organized by freemasons, Jeanseistes, Sabbatteans/Frankists (using the same techniques as those currently being used in Syria) to remove all the barriers to the law of the free market (where a wealthy individual can hoard all the available bread and resell it for profit at the expense of the majority) and how it was never the revolution of the common people (who got massacred by the agents of the revolution when they tried to oppose the impact of the law of the free market on the cost of bread).
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    Rebellion Spreads: Yellow Jackets Plan Action Across Netherlands

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...s-netherlands/


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    La République en marche performs triage in an effort to save the party from the inevitable rise of nationalism.

    END OF MACRON? French MPs Launch NO CONFIDENCE Vote Amid Nationwide Protests!!!



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    Here's why things continue to deteriorate for Emmanuel Macron and the future of the EU!!!



    And from serialbrain2 the relevant part is from 20.40 minutes.

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    Army on the way to Paris? PHOTOS & VIDEOS of French armored vehicles on the move emerge online

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    Photos and videos of armored vehicles allegedly approaching Paris to be deployed during Saturday’s protests have appeared on Twitter. Earlier, the French PM promised military police vehicles at the rallies.

    Even though the government dropped the fuel tax hike after mass protests last week, the Yellow Vests will still march on December 8.

    On Thursday evening, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe promised 8,000 additional officers in Paris and 89,000 nationwide to be deployed during the protests. He also announced that “a dozen armored vehicles” belonging to the French Gendarmerie will be rolling on the streets of the City of Lights.

    Right after Philippe’s statement, people on Twitter started posting unconfirmed photos and videos of vehicles which they claimed were approaching the capital. “The army arrives in Paris,” one person wrote.

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    The French Gendarmerie is a military police force which works under the jurisdiction of both the Interior and Defense Ministries. This type of deployment has not occurred since riots broke out in the Paris suburbs in 2005.

    France is still recovering after violent clashes on December 1 resulted in over 130 people injured and more than 400 arrested. Four people, including an elderly woman, died.

    This Saturday, the Yellow Vests’ slogan is “we stay on our course.” One of the movement’s leaders, Eric Drouet, even promised to reach the Elysee Palace, the official residence of President Emmanuel Macron.

    Some reports in French media even claim that the authorities are worried about a possible coup attempt. There have been calls to attack parliamentarians, government officials, and police.
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    The rebellion spreads: Yellow Vests plan protests across The Netherlands

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    "Yellow Vests" have planned action across The Netherlands to protest against "political correctness" and immigration policies, and to call for the resignation of left-liberal Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

    Inspired by the French Gilets Jaunes, the Dutch Gele Hesjes (Yellow Vests) will be protesting Saturday morning in Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Maastricht, Groningen, and The Hague following similar action last weekend, reports Dutch online newspaper nu.nl.

    Unlike the French Yellow Vests, or Yellow Jackets, whose protest originated in reaction to Paris Climate Accord-inspired green tax hikes on fuel, their Dutch counterparts began their movement over government policies including immigration and healthcare.

    They are also calling for a reduction in excise duties, the lowering of the age at which pensions can be received, and for the Dutch prime minister to step down, Algemeen Dagblad reports.

    While last weekend's protest in Paris was marked by its violence, the ones in Maastricht, Groningen, and The Hague were said to have come off relatively peacefully, with only a few arrests.

    Announcing an expansion of protest action to include Rotterdam and Amsterdam this coming Saturday, movement organiser Jikkenien Deerenberg, 55, said that "everyone is welcome, but no banners, flags, or face coverings/balaclavas."

    Ms Deerenberg said she hopes to lead fellow activists on a march around Stopera, Amsterdam's city hall, singing the song "15 million people" by Dutch songwriting duo Fluitsma & Van Tijn.

    Describing herself as a concerned citizen, Ms Deerenberg told Het Parool she is protesting "against the hardening of society."

    "Freedom of expression is under pressure, we have to be politically correct. It is a struggle," he said.

    "With the demonstration, I want to show that we want a voice. It is not a demonstration derived from anger over petrol prices like in France. We are doing well in the Netherlands.

    "The problem is that we are no longer being heard. A lot is being decided over our heads," the Dutch Yellow Vest added.

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    French President Emmanuel Macron has given in to the initial demands of the Gilets Jaunes (Yellow Vest) movement and permanently cancelled the proposed increase tax on fuel after a negative reaction to a six-month deferment.

    The Elysée Palace confirmed that the fuel tax hike slated for January, which sparked the Yellow Vest movement, would be cancelled entirely on late Wednesday following a massively negative reaction to Prime Minister Édouard Philippe’s proposal to simply defer the tax for another six months, franceinfo reports.

    Clarifying, the palace told franceinfo the increase is not “suspended or deferred,” but “cancelled.”

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    Progressive French president Emmanuel Macron surrendered to Yellow Vest demands on Wednesday night after three weekends of mass protest, scrapping a planned further tax rise in the New Year after mass negative reaction to Prime Minister Édouard Philippe's proposal to defer the tax for six months.

    However, Paris is bracing for further action slated for Saturday, with the Gilets Jaunes' demands having expanded to other issues including education reform, social security reforms, the cost of living, and most recently the UN Migration Compact which Macron has pledged to sign in Marrakesh, Morocco, next week.


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    That long article a few posts above by Diana Johnstone does an excellent job of analyzing and explaining these events for us across the pond.

    The "left" has really changed in the western democracies, as she makes very clear. Nothing like what it was in the 60s and 70s. That part about Germany basically holding all the cards in Europe is ominous, for obvious reasons. If anyone can hold off the globalists, it's the French. They believe in what they've built over centuries. Will it spread widely?? Will it morph into something too violent??

    Edit -- I didn't realize how violent it's already gotten. And to see high school kids on their knees like this is a shock

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    ...

    ... et pourquoi Ça Chauffe?

    France’s Yellow Vests: It’s just 1 protest…which has lasted 8 years

    by Ramin Mazaheri for The Saker Blog
    December 07, 2018

    The most important thing to understand about France’s Yellow Vest movement is that the Mainstream Media wants you to view it as an isolated incident which exists in a vacuum, when we are much better served to look at in a continuum.

    When the Yellow Vests started I was not foolish to say: “So what?”

    After all, the Yellow Vest movement is dwarfed by France’s first major anti-austerity protests in the fall of 2010. When Nicolas Sarkozy backtracked on a promise to raise the retirement age France saw 7 marches in 8 weeks with (conservatively) 1.5 million marchers each time. Over just one week there were three different marches with perhaps 3 million people! The three Yellow Vest marches – and all are on Saturdays, to make it easier for people to attend – only reached 300,000 demonstrators one time. So we’re talking 10 times smaller than in 2010 per protest, and something like 30 times smaller if we compare the two movements overall.

    Unsurprisingly, I have yet to read of this “ancient history” in any of the Anglophone Mainstream Media coverage of the Yellow Vests. It’s “vacuum versus continuum” in terms of journalistic approach.

    I summarise the “continuum” approach in an original saying about journalism (at least I think it’s original): “A journalist without experience is just somebody with a notepad and a pen.”

    Some Mainstream journalist who doesn’t know about 2010 – do they really grasp what the Yellow Vests are about? Because the Yellow Vests were definitely there back in 2010…but they remained in the car (Reflective yellow vests in your car are required by French law: in case you get a flat tire or something, you have the vest to put on for safety from oncoming traffic.).

    So, if we believe the living-in-a-vacuum Mainstream Media then the Yellow Vest protests are finished: President Emmanuel Macron just canceled the diesel tax hikes. The protests are no longer necessary, right?

    Wrong.

    There is no reason why AFP, AP, Reuters and everybody else spent all that time saying “diesel tax, diesel tax, diesel tax” other than: they are either purposely misleading people by viewing the diesel tax in total isolation from previous policies, or they are a bunch of inexperienced newbies, or they just want to be proven right for repeatedly making this absurd diesel tax claim. My point: it’s all bad journalism.

    Second-most important thing to realize about austerity: it has accumulated
    I hear and read stories about the French in 2018 similar to what I used to read about Greece in 2012 – because austerity is cumulative.

    It is not just one tax / measure / policy / reform: it is all of them combined. And we are talking about 8 years’ worth.

    “Ramin, you are usually awfully long-winded. Do you get paid by the word? Even in your funny columns, you could use an editor. Just explain what you mean about this in real-world terms!”

    Fine – hear ya go:
    French inflation, according to my calculations, has increased by 14% since 2008: therefore, people have effectively taken a 14% wage cut in 10 years. This helps explain why “decreased purchasing power” has been the number one concern of the French year after year after year.

    Salaries in France are already low to start with:1,700 euros is the median net salary, which is far lower than Anglo-US-Germanic countries.

    Ok, so you have a lousy salary to start with, which has lost 14% of its value in the last decade. But inflation is not caused by the policy of neoliberal / trickle-down / austerity economics, of course.

    But France does have austerity, so 14% is not the only reduction: we must account for the impact on salaries of 8 years of cuts to social services, because a key plank of austerity is reducing the size of the government. This means YOU foot the bill for many services the government used to totally provide or subsidise.

    So let’s say, conservatively, because it really depends on the size of your family and what their needs are, that this has effectively lowered your yearly salary 5% overall during the Age of Austerity. Your salary is now actually worth about 20% less than in 2008.

    Now let’s add in the new taxes imposed by austerity, because austerity means that the French state taxes workers and not capital, and more than ever. Did you expect that high finance would pay for their failed bets? Ha ha, you are funny – you probably say things like “France is socialist”, too. For example: two years ago they increased my council tax (the annual tax I pay for renting an apartment, so that I avoid things like getting rained on and assault-while-sleeping) by 60%. I don’t know how that’s legal or morally defensible, and I was enraged, but how could I stop them? It went from to €1,285 in 2016 to €2,134 in 2017.

    So let’s say, conservatively, that the increased taxes imposed by austerity have taken just 5% of your salary over the last 10 years: your salary is now down 25% from 2008.

    Of course, losing 25% of your wages in 10 years is no problem IF your wages have increased 25%.

    In 2008 the government claimed the median salary was €1,580 per month for a full-time worker. In 2015, which is this year’s data from the government (why are they so behind schedule, probably because austerity means firing/not replacing government workers), the median salary was €1,692. This means that the median salary has only increased 7%.

    So we can conservatively estimate that the median citizen has lost 18% of their salary in real terms since 2008, all thanks to following austerity economics.

    For people making €1,700 per month in 2018…losing €306 per month is a huge, huge problem. For childless, former Rothschild bankers who married elderly chocolate heiresses/statutory rapists…€306 only means skimping on the wine tonight.

    But wait, it’s worse!

    Not only has austerity taken this huge cut out of your already-meagre salary, they have made it significantly more likely that you will lose your poorly-paying job due to long-standing, near-record unemployment levels in France.

    This pressure exists because another plank of austerity is the reduction of and/or the refusal to spend government money on job-creating infrastructure PLUS the insistence on giving tax breaks to corporations and businessmen WITH zero strings attached (such as the promise of jobs).

    And, the coup de grace, austerity means reduced safety conditions, making firing easier and loosening oversight rules – as a way to encourage hiring – so your poor-paying job is even more disagreeable.

    And who has arrived on the scene immune to these pressures, and thus just oozing life, but “old Mackie” Emmanuel Macron. Well, when the shark bites with his teeth, babe, and the scarlet billows start to spread – Mackie’s got them fancy gloves, so there’s never a trace of red. Never a trace of policy-sweat, either: he controls his brand-new political party, which has an absolute majority in Parliament. France is Macron’s little austerity laboratory, and he doesn’t care about public opinion and nor does he have to.

    So the “real-world terms” in France are: major cuts in take home pay, combined with job insecurity, combined with a mad neoliberal scientist who doesn’t believe he was elected to reflect the popular will but to rule as he technocratically thinks best.

    Can you hear the Mainstream Media shouting to drown me out: “The problem is just the diesel tax, just the diesel tax I tell ya!

    Let’s be real journalists and do the math, and give the context, and recount the history

    [...]

    Full article: http://thesaker.is/frances-yellow-ve...asted-8-years/
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
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    ... et pourquoi Ça Chauffe?

    France’s Yellow Vests: It’s just 1 protest…which has lasted 8 years

    by Ramin Mazaheri for The Saker Blog
    December 07, 2018

    The most important thing to understand about France’s Yellow Vest movement is that the Mainstream Media wants you to view it as an isolated incident which exists in a vacuum, when we are much better served to look at in a continuum.

    When the Yellow Vests started I was not foolish to say: “So what?”

    After all, the Yellow Vest movement is dwarfed by France’s first major anti-austerity protests in the fall of 2010. When Nicolas Sarkozy backtracked on a promise to raise the retirement age France saw 7 marches in 8 weeks with (conservatively) 1.5 million marchers each time. Over just one week there were three different marches with perhaps 3 million people! The three Yellow Vest marches – and all are on Saturdays, to make it easier for people to attend – only reached 300,000 demonstrators one time. So we’re talking 10 times smaller than in 2010 per protest, and something like 30 times smaller if we compare the two movements overall.

    Unsurprisingly, I have yet to read of this “ancient history” in any of the Anglophone Mainstream Media coverage of the Yellow Vests. It’s “vacuum versus continuum” in terms of journalistic approach.

    I summarise the “continuum” approach in an original saying about journalism (at least I think it’s original): “A journalist without experience is just somebody with a notepad and a pen.”

    Some Mainstream journalist who doesn’t know about 2010 – do they really grasp what the Yellow Vests are about? Because the Yellow Vests were definitely there back in 2010…but they remained in the car (Reflective yellow vests in your car are required by French law: in case you get a flat tire or something, you have the vest to put on for safety from oncoming traffic.).

    So, if we believe the living-in-a-vacuum Mainstream Media then the Yellow Vest protests are finished: President Emmanuel Macron just canceled the diesel tax hikes. The protests are no longer necessary, right?

    Wrong.

    There is no reason why AFP, AP, Reuters and everybody else spent all that time saying “diesel tax, diesel tax, diesel tax” other than: they are either purposely misleading people by viewing the diesel tax in total isolation from previous policies, or they are a bunch of inexperienced newbies, or they just want to be proven right for repeatedly making this absurd diesel tax claim. My point: it’s all bad journalism.

    Second-most important thing to realize about austerity: it has accumulated
    I hear and read stories about the French in 2018 similar to what I used to read about Greece in 2012 – because austerity is cumulative.

    It is not just one tax / measure / policy / reform: it is all of them combined. And we are talking about 8 years’ worth.

    “Ramin, you are usually awfully long-winded. Do you get paid by the word? Even in your funny columns, you could use an editor. Just explain what you mean about this in real-world terms!”

    Fine – hear ya go:
    French inflation, according to my calculations, has increased by 14% since 2008: therefore, people have effectively taken a 14% wage cut in 10 years. This helps explain why “decreased purchasing power” has been the number one concern of the French year after year after year.

    Salaries in France are already low to start with:1,700 euros is the median net salary, which is far lower than Anglo-US-Germanic countries.

    Ok, so you have a lousy salary to start with, which has lost 14% of its value in the last decade. But inflation is not caused by the policy of neoliberal / trickle-down / austerity economics, of course.

    But France does have austerity, so 14% is not the only reduction: we must account for the impact on salaries of 8 years of cuts to social services, because a key plank of austerity is reducing the size of the government. This means YOU foot the bill for many services the government used to totally provide or subsidise.

    So let’s say, conservatively, because it really depends on the size of your family and what their needs are, that this has effectively lowered your yearly salary 5% overall during the Age of Austerity. Your salary is now actually worth about 20% less than in 2008.

    Now let’s add in the new taxes imposed by austerity, because austerity means that the French state taxes workers and not capital, and more than ever. Did you expect that high finance would pay for their failed bets? Ha ha, you are funny – you probably say things like “France is socialist”, too. For example: two years ago they increased my council tax (the annual tax I pay for renting an apartment, so that I avoid things like getting rained on and assault-while-sleeping) by 60%. I don’t know how that’s legal or morally defensible, and I was enraged, but how could I stop them? It went from to €1,285 in 2016 to €2,134 in 2017.

    So let’s say, conservatively, that the increased taxes imposed by austerity have taken just 5% of your salary over the last 10 years: your salary is now down 25% from 2008.

    Of course, losing 25% of your wages in 10 years is no problem IF your wages have increased 25%.

    In 2008 the government claimed the median salary was €1,580 per month for a full-time worker. In 2015, which is this year’s data from the government (why are they so behind schedule, probably because austerity means firing/not replacing government workers), the median salary was €1,692. This means that the median salary has only increased 7%.

    So we can conservatively estimate that the median citizen has lost 18% of their salary in real terms since 2008, all thanks to following austerity economics.

    For people making €1,700 per month in 2018…losing €306 per month is a huge, huge problem. For childless, former Rothschild bankers who married elderly chocolate heiresses/statutory rapists…€306 only means skimping on the wine tonight.

    But wait, it’s worse!

    Not only has austerity taken this huge cut out of your already-meagre salary, they have made it significantly more likely that you will lose your poorly-paying job due to long-standing, near-record unemployment levels in France.

    This pressure exists because another plank of austerity is the reduction of and/or the refusal to spend government money on job-creating infrastructure PLUS the insistence on giving tax breaks to corporations and businessmen WITH zero strings attached (such as the promise of jobs).

    And, the coup de grace, austerity means reduced safety conditions, making firing easier and loosening oversight rules – as a way to encourage hiring – so your poor-paying job is even more disagreeable.

    And who has arrived on the scene immune to these pressures, and thus just oozing life, but “old Mackie” Emmanuel Macron. Well, when the shark bites with his teeth, babe, and the scarlet billows start to spread – Mackie’s got them fancy gloves, so there’s never a trace of red. Never a trace of policy-sweat, either: he controls his brand-new political party, which has an absolute majority in Parliament. France is Macron’s little austerity laboratory, and he doesn’t care about public opinion and nor does he have to.

    So the “real-world terms” in France are: major cuts in take home pay, combined with job insecurity, combined with a mad neoliberal scientist who doesn’t believe he was elected to reflect the popular will but to rule as he technocratically thinks best.

    Can you hear the Mainstream Media shouting to drown me out: “The problem is just the diesel tax, just the diesel tax I tell ya!

    Let’s be real journalists and do the math, and give the context, and recount the history

    [...]

    Full article: http://thesaker.is/frances-yellow-ve...asted-8-years/
    Thank you so much for giving us the details of what has happened in France. I feel like the same sort of thing is happening to the working class in the US and they just keep adding taxes, at least they do in Washington state. I don't see any reason why these governments would stop increasing taxation unless the people say "no more". I have no idea what it will take in the US to break the complacency. We are too busy worrying about who said what and what the Kardashians are wearing.

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    And to see high school kids on their knees like this is a shock

    Wow. No kidding. It really WAS a shock. I didn't know what this referred to until I saw the short video... of course.

    Do watch: just 3 mins. We have to be aware of this stuff.

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    Herve,I dion't see any reference on this thread regarding :-

    and this one leads to Hero Marc Graigne :-
    The French cabal have had no shortage of victims, from Diana, & company, to Corrine Gouget, and even Claudie Haigniere
    ( though the latter recovered from her [ Assisted ?] Suicide, being 'rewarded with a monthly salary of around €21 500 ... )

    Problem I see here, whenever I try to engage in conversation, about Corruption such as the € 404 MILLION Christne Lagarde -Tapie case, the French ppl I speak with, just 'shake their heads ' and utter " it's like that... "

    At the top of the 'Food-chain', those 'out-of-Public-sight ', creatures are the ones we must 'Energetically & Financially 'STARVE' off this planet.

    The likes of Soros and others are only the ' Outward Evidence', of the controlling archontic creatures...

    It is the 'Slave System' ,which must be changed...

    The British Apathy is rife too Lord Blackheath, revealed in public the £ 15 TRILLIONS, defrauded from the UK treasury { with complicity of course }

    The French problem is, like all other countries, only the tiny tip of the collossal Pyramid... Iceberg !
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    Default Re: Ça Chauffe! - Turmoil in France

    Quote o we can conservatively estimate that the median citizen has lost 18% of their salary in real terms since 2008, all thanks to following austerity economics.

    For people making €1,700 per month in 2018…losing €306 per month is a huge, huge problem.
    We, North American, are paid on a weekly basis salary while Europeans and mostly French are paid on a monthly basis.

    And the cost of living is much higher in France than in USA or Canada.

    Therefore, 1,700 Euros (about 1,900$ US) per month is very little for a family.
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