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    There does seem to be evidence that they have a large archive of Giant Skeletons. In the Indiana Jones movie it shows the Ark of the Covenant being crated and carted away. Did they know something and put it subliminally in the movie?
    because those who own and control the Smithsonian are invested in maintaining the illusions we have been brought up to believe. To perpetuate these kind of secrets they look at the big picture, they start organizations with the sole purpose of seeing to their various interests, and clearly their interests are multifaceted and global. It is much the same for all the major university research departments.
    It's amusing that skeptics of these subjects, such as false flags will tell us we are paranoid, that it simply can't be done; that to organize something so large too many organizations would have to be involved to make such an undertaking feasible, but that is exactly the case. It is doable, and it has been done, by following certain steps and keeping their eye on the big picture.
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    It seems to be 'a well known fact' that the Smithsonian has hidden these skeletons.

    1) Is there any evidence that they were ever discovered, if so when and where?
    2) Is there any evidence that the Smithsonian ever had them?
    3) Is there any evidence that they are now hidden or have been disposed of?

    As seekers of truth, I suspect we should regard any newspaper reports with suspicion, but they may be a start.

    I expect it's a subject that Skepoid.com or Snopes.com could get their teeth into...

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan

    If one joins all the many dots, there's only one answer that seems to check all the boxes... and that's that the history of the human race is regarded a matter of national security.

    The fear factor MUST be immense, but for the life of me, I really can't place my finger on any one thing that could be? This again, reminds me of the point Richard Thieme so eloquently slammed home:


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    read the book "The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America; The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up" by Richard J. Dewhurst- it's a real eye-opener-

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    Didn't Smithonian hide all that high tech gizmos that this fellow found in some remote caves in the Grand Canyon?? Mmmm...

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    more proof of hiding...


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    The PTW have created a fictional human history compatible with their fictional western religions. They must hide any and all counter-evidence that might blow these fictions apart. It is only in the recent years since the advent of the Internet that their efforts are starting to fail. So this effort to hide history is not in the interest of national security but rather in the interest of elitist security.

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    Someone asked earlier about fact finding. I'm not sure any answer given will satisfy? It's like showing ufo proof, a ufo could land on the White House Lawn and some people still wouldn't believe.
    Probably the best method is looking at the weight of evidence and history does help provide some knowledge of giants. Mt Shasta in Cali has Indian legends of little people and giants. The Apache creation myth includes giants and owl - like creatures as does the Navajo. There are accounts of 7-8 foot skeletons found in the Ohio valley. Some believe the Anasazi structures were strong fortresses to keep out giants and one of their famous petroglyph show a giants depiction of six fingers and toes. Not to omit the famous passages in the Bible of giants. Perhaps the hiding of history by the Smithsonian is for the PTB to show how much more they are illuminated over the regular people?

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    ...because "evolution" as promoted in "freemason" controlled universities is a political agenda...
    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time
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    posted something here that turned out not to be true, deleted it
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    Default Re: Why is the Smithsonian hiding history?

    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    It seems to be 'a well known fact' that the Smithsonian has hidden these skeletons.

    1) Is there any evidence that they were ever discovered, if so when and where?
    2) Is there any evidence that the Smithsonian ever had them?
    3) Is there any evidence that they are now hidden or have been disposed of?

    As seekers of truth, I suspect we should regard any newspaper reports with suspicion, but they may be a start.

    I expect it's a subject that Skepoid.com or Snopes.com could get their teeth into...


    There's a lot of press reports, clippings etc., of giant skeletons in the video lizfrench posted over in Mound-Builders-and-Giants-in-the-Americas
    A lot of the reports are from decades and decades ago, so perhaps less reason to be suspicious?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It's a very good question — and one that doesn't at first appear to make any sense. What could be wrong with letting us know our true history??

    If one joins all the many dots, there's only one answer that seems to check all the boxes... and that's that the history of the human race is regarded a matter of national security.

    Taking a few steps on from that, that implies that the Smithsonian (and others) know that if all these historical truths were revealed, it'd be only a matter of time before the scientific community had to confirm that alien visitation (and hybridization, and everything that implies) is all a reality. And then that blows the lid wide open on everything that's happening in present time.

    I absolutely agree.
    This is pretty much what Lloyd Pye states, and he pretty much expands that to include the science of archeology as we know it.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6D...71A2CF99CD508B

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    Default Re: Why is the Smithsonian hiding history?

    Referencing another thread, the video posted HERE mentions numerous cases of items shipped to the Smithsonian never to be heard of again. (Starts around the 40m mark)

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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    read the book "The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America; The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up" by Richard J. Dewhurst- it's a real eye-opener-

    Larry
    Went looking for this as a .pdf without success, but..

    Quote The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up (Repaired eBook*)
    By Richard J. Dewhurst

    Format: PDF

    Publication Date: December 17, 2013

    This book could be previously viewed on-line at http://www.scribd.com/embeds/1781047...hsnry07xk0qkhs The owner has since deleted that book from Scribd.


    A study of the substantial evidence for a former race of giants in North America and its 150-year suppression by the Smithsonian Institution

    • Shows how thousands of giant skeletons have been found, particularly in the Mississippi Valley, as well as the ruins of the giants’ cities

    • Explores 400 years of giant finds, including newspaper articles, first person accounts, state historical records, and illustrated field reports

    • Reveals the Stonehenge-era megalithic burial complex on Catalina Island with over 4,000 giant skeletons, including kings more than 9 feet tall

    • Includes more than 100 rare photographs and illustrations of the lost evidence

    Drawing on 400 years of newspaper articles and photos, first person accounts, state historical records, and illustrated field reports, Richard J. Dewhurst reveals not only that North America was once ruled by an advanced race of giants but also that the Smithsonian has been actively suppressing the physical evidence for nearly 150 years. He shows how thousands of giant skeletons have been unearthed at Mound Builder sites across the continent, only to disappear from the historical record. He examines other concealed giant discoveries, such as the giant mummies found in Spirit Cave, Nevada, wrapped in fine textiles and dating to 8000 BCE; the hundreds of red-haired bog mummies found at sinkhole “cenotes” on the west coast of Florida and dating to 7500 BCE; and the ruins of the giants’ cities with populations in excess of 100,000 in Arizona, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Louisiana.

    Dewhurst shows how this suppression began shortly after the Civil War and transformed into an outright cover-up in 1879 when Major John Wesley Powell was appointed Smithsonian director, launching a strict pro-evolution, pro-Manifest Destiny agenda. He also reveals the 1920s’ discovery on Catalina Island of a megalithic burial complex with 6,000 years of continuous burials and over 4,000 skeletons, including a succession of kings and queens, some more than 9 feet tall--the evidence for which is hidden in the restricted-access evidence rooms at the Smithsonian.

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Here is one of these psy-ops:Smithsonian Admits Destroying Giant Human Skeletons – Fiction!
    Seems no one has noticed your post Hervé.

    My first question in this sort of case is always did whatever was supposed to be covered up ever really happen, and if it did can we see some sort of evidence (no matter how flimsy) please? So much just gets repeated as a 'well-known fact' without that basic questin even being asked.

    From the link you gave for those who have not clicked on it yet:

    Quote So, while conspiracy theories about the skeletons of giants in the U.S. have persisted for hundreds of years, nobody has actually found one. And the eRumor’s claim that the Smithsonian has plotted to keep it that way is false.
    Now someone will no doubt post the photographic 'evidence'.

    PS: There seem to be a lot of "thank yous" for those photos. Everyone does realise they are hoaxes...
    I don't think anyone missed Hervé's post, does evidence for one hoax automatically mean all other reports are hoaxes also?

    As for thanking the post containing hoaxed photo's, it didn't occur to you that the 'thanks' are probably for bringing the hoaxes to our attention. Again does it mean every picture/story is automatically a hoax?

    There is no surer way to muddy the waters than to create a few hoaxes which are then used as a source of proof (ironically) to rubbish all stories.

    You ask for evidence, (no matter how flimsy), so are you looking at the links people are providing?

    http://projectavalon.net/Jonathan_Gr...iants_2006.pdf Originally posted by Bill Ryan HERE

    If you signed up to Academia.edu you could read https://www.academia.edu/4693378/A_T...can_Prehistory ~originally posted by jerry HERE

    Did you see THIS POST that contained a picture of a bone that has been in the vaults of of the medical school at WITS University, Johannesburg since the early 1960s.

    What about the oral histories of North American Indians that frequently state there were a people living in the lands before they got there?

    Do none of these constitute flimsy evidence, or were you not really looking?

    Truth of Fiction.com are similar to Skeptoid.com and Snopes.com, in that they are completely UNreliable as a source of fact. Rather like using Wikipedia as a source when investigating any slightly contentious subject.

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    Default Re: Why is the Smithsonian hiding history?

    In norse mythology it states that Asgard was build by giants (see chapter THE GIANT BUILDER in link below) and some other mythologic close encounters with giants.
    In the days of giants; a book of Norse tales
    by Brown, Abbie Farwell
    Published 1902
    https://archive.org/details/cu31924012566133

    Something else:
    Reading the above post gave me an idea. I visited Baalbeck in 2009 out of curiosity. That site just blew my mind. One cant imagine that this area was build by prmitive humans, there is just no way. Look at this little fellow here:

    official estimation 1000 Tons, some not so official estimate 1150. Its about 4 meters(12 feet) wide.
    here are 3 of these in a wall



    Up at the platform wich is enormous i took some photos of an outer wall from up on the platform, like a protection wall on old medevil castles. This wall is also about 4meters (12 feet) thick and 6 meters (18 feet) high.
    I wanna see humans with wood- and coppartools and as much ropes as they wish for lift these beauties high up upon the wall

    heres a hole wall of these stones
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    here u can see my shadow for size comparison on the ground between the protectionwall and the wall of the platform

    I was amusing myself by imagining that they build this wall to protect themselves from an attack by people riding dinosaurs. But maybe they protected themselves from giants and such. There is also the possibilty that giants were involves in the construction.
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    I was amusing myself by imagining that they build this wall to protect themselves from an attack by people riding dinosaurs. But maybe they protected themselves from giants and such. There is also the possibilty that giants were involves in the construction. But the ancient technology approach makes slightly more sense, i think.

    The mythology from the beduins that have resided in the area of Baalbek state that giants built these monuments.


    I believe Zacharia Sitchin was of the opinion that this was a rocket platform, used for spacecraft lift off. I always thought that sounded reasonable.




    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Here is one of these psy-ops:Smithsonian Admits Destroying Giant Human Skeletons – Fiction!
    Seems no one has noticed your post Hervé.

    My first question in this sort of case is always did whatever was supposed to be covered up ever really happen, and if it did can we see some sort of evidence (no matter how flimsy) please? So much just gets repeated as a 'well-known fact' without that basic questin even being asked.

    From the link you gave for those who have not clicked on it yet:

    Quote So, while conspiracy theories about the skeletons of giants in the U.S. have persisted for hundreds of years, nobody has actually found one. And the eRumor’s claim that the Smithsonian has plotted to keep it that way is false.
    Now someone will no doubt post the photographic 'evidence'.

    PS: There seem to be a lot of "thank yous" for those photos. Everyone does realise they are hoaxes...
    I don't think anyone missed Hervé's post, does evidence for one hoax automatically mean all other reports are hoaxes also?

    As for thanking the post containing hoaxed photo's, it didn't occur to you that the 'thanks' are probably for bringing the hoaxes to our attention. Again does it mean every picture/story is automatically a hoax?

    There is no surer way to muddy the waters than to create a few hoaxes which are then used as a source of proof (ironically) to rubbish all stories.

    You ask for evidence, (no matter how flimsy), so are you looking at the links people are providing?

    http://projectavalon.net/Jonathan_Gr...iants_2006.pdf Originally posted by Bill Ryan HERE

    If you signed up to Academia.edu you could read https://www.academia.edu/4693378/A_T...can_Prehistory ~originally posted by jerry HERE

    Did you see THIS POST that contained a picture of a bone that has been in the vaults of of the medical school at WITS University, Johannesburg since the early 1960s.

    What about the oral histories of North American Indians that frequently state there were a people living in the lands before they got there?

    Do none of these constitute flimsy evidence, or were you not really looking?

    Truth of Fiction.com are similar to Skeptoid.com and Snopes.com, in that they are completely UNreliable as a source of fact. Rather like using Wikipedia as a source when investigating any slightly contentious subject.

    Wow Ewan!
    Well said. I'm impressed! Thank you for that.
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    In the Avalon Library (as of yesterday): Richard Dewhurst's book THE ANCIENT GIANTS WHO RULED AMERICA (pdf), together with his two hour Coast to Coast show on 3 Feb 2014. Also discussed on the other thread: Mound Builders and Giants in the Americas
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Here is one of these psy-ops:Smithsonian Admits Destroying Giant Human Skeletons – Fiction!
    You know something, I was thinking the same thing with the moon landing = fake claim. A psy-op, they drop a bomb like that and just watch the fur fly!!!
    Am I wrong?! I really don't have a lot invested either way. Ever since David Rockefeller admitted his part of the NWO, all bets are off, everything gets questioned!!!

    10yrs ago I bought this book, loved it, perhaps I need a refresher?!
    http://www.amazon.com/Societies-Psyc...hael+a+hoffman

    Anyways, since collectively I've observed, these folks are going out of their way to suppress the biblical account, even subverting the churches with 501-c3 contracts....it ties their arms behind their backs and they teach awful stuff that is simply not true, which one would have to do to turn so many against it. In addition to keeping giants in the cellar and suppressing news stories and much much much more.

    What do all these efforts do to people? It has us looking elsewhere for answers and we leave ourselves wide open to all kinds of speculation, and possibly spiritual possession in some cases.

    Anyways, that institution has to employ illuminati to control the ruse! But we are still finding out the truth in spite of efforts to obfuscate and obliterate the truth!!! Hooray for us I say.

    eh?

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Here is one of these psy-ops:Smithsonian Admits Destroying Giant Human Skeletons – Fiction!
    Seems no one has noticed your post Hervé.

    My first question in this sort of case is always did whatever was supposed to be covered up ever really happen, and if it did can we see some sort of evidence (no matter how flimsy) please? So much just gets repeated as a 'well-known fact' without that basic questin even being asked.

    From the link you gave for those who have not clicked on it yet:

    Quote So, while conspiracy theories about the skeletons of giants in the U.S. have persisted for hundreds of years, nobody has actually found one. And the eRumor’s claim that the Smithsonian has plotted to keep it that way is false.
    Now someone will no doubt post the photographic 'evidence'.

    Actually, I'll start the ball rolling with these, but there are plenty more:





    PS: There seem to be a lot of "thank yous" for those photos. Everyone does realise they are hoaxes...
    Well perhaps these are or there are hoaxes, but likely just another psy-op to keep us wondering?!

    They cannot ALL be hoaxes, you need to read Giants who ruled america...there are simply too many finds and bonified newspaper articles to be all hoaxes.
    The truth has to be, they were always real. And there will always exist; liars, obfuscators and jokesters, just to keep us guessing. At least those of us who have not put the pieces together, that is!

    http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Giants...+ruled+america


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