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    People remember it being a reddish colour!

    But now it is a Greenish colour?

    I cannot comment but maybe some people here remember it being a reddish colour????
    Wow. My immediate reaction was I'd thought it was reddish, too. But on second thoughts, I might have been thinking of cerise (which definitely IS reddish ). The names are somewhat similar.

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    Mandela Effect | Possible "real world" residue of the old Ford logo?




    Show's a real world ford logo of the style that I know in this time line. But also as suggested if the ford logo is a neater copy of Henry Ford's signature than it is incorrect because he never had the pig's tail on the F.

    I recall the Ford logo without the 'pigs tail' which incidentally looks like a Q.

    I am getting more of these Mandela effects over time. Maps look to change subtle and not so subtle. The Moonraker scene quoted earlier in the thread is something I remember very well and the girl definitely had braces, that was the entire gag.

    In my head I have 2012/13 as a critical point. Things seemed very different after that.

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    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    Thanks for your thoughts here Jake

    To start with I do not agree that all meomories are flexible, not strong memories at least.
    The way I look at memories are like stamps in your mind to let you go further.(from one point to the next).

    If you mean memories are flexible as what did I do 10 years ago on a boring Monday, I have no idea.

    Things in life that are mindboggeling, they are memories that are important.
    They don't happen often, in my case I have had 4. Most people have had none.

    I remember asking my mom, who is very religios about the lion laying down with the lamb. Wich was of my knowledge from her as a little child.

    She said, no ! There was allways the wolf llaying down with the lamb. (WTF!)

    The day after I went to office as usual. Asked a friend about SnowWhite "mirror mirror on the wall" and thanks God he replyed that was what he was remembering too. That is Not "MAGIC mirror on the wall".

    But as you know it's now "magic" mirror on the wall.

    Check my previous post about the James Bond film disappering braces, wich is my nr 1 proof of the Mandela Effect.
    I've discussed a few times already the "magic mirror/mirror mirror" one. This is the settling argument for me: (preety cool song and band btw)


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    Some people remember Franklin Delano Roosevelt's middle name being Delanor. I recall it as Delanor.
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    Quote Franklin D. Roosevelt was a very historically important figure and served as America's 32nd president. His name is often shortened to FDR, but what does the D stand for?... Most people, me included, remember his full name being Franklin Delanor Roosevelt, but in reality it has apparently always been Franklin Delano Roosevelt. What do you remember?
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    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    Mandela Effect | Possible "real world" residue of the old Ford logo?




    Show's a real world ford logo of the style that I know in this time line. But also as suggested if the ford logo is a neater copy of Henry Ford's signature than it is incorrect because he never had the pig's tail on the F.

    I recall the Ford logo without the 'pigs tail' which incidentally looks like a Q.

    I am getting more of these Mandela effects over time. Maps look to change subtle and not so subtle. The Moonraker scene quoted earlier in the thread is something I remember very well and the girl definitely had braces, that was the entire gag.

    In my head I have 2012/13 as a critical point. Things seemed very different after that.
    One of the things that I find very interesting is that there are a percentage (I have no idea how much) of people that are affected. Why and how did this happen to a specific group/type of people? We all share the same ones - the Ford logo, Moonraker, the Lion and the Lamb, etc. My immediate family all share the same memories - at least those old enough to recall certain ones.

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    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    Some people remember Franklin Delano Roosevelt's middle name being Delanor. I recall it as Delanor.
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    Quote Franklin D. Roosevelt was a very historically important figure and served as America's 32nd president. His name is often shortened to FDR, but what does the D stand for?... Most people, me included, remember his full name being Franklin Delanor Roosevelt, but in reality it has apparently always been Franklin Delano Roosevelt. What do you remember?
    Occurrences of Delano on PA: Link
    Occurrences of Delanor on PA: Zero
    Well, my suspicion on this one is that people have jumbled up Franklin, and his wife Eleanor Roosevelt, when recalling his middle name.
    I clearly remember his name being Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and his wife being Eleanor.
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    Can anyone cast light on this? I experienced what seemed like a glitch a few weeks ago. Back story. Was returning from a fishing trip to a regular haunt in the countryside away from everyone, to get some peace.

    In the car on the return journey, there is a series of 5 roundabouts about half a mile apart. As I approached roundabout two I was in the outside lane and a VW car was behind me.

    I went over the roundabout and was half way down the road, about parallel where my sister lives 100 metres to the right of the dualled carriageway (and also the same street of my grandparents when they were alive).

    Then I got this super weird instant sensation that I had been 'reset' to travel down that stretch of road again and sure enough I did it TWICE and checking my rear view it was a DIFFERENT car behind, a Toyota I think, still travelling in the outside lane.

    Overall impression was slightly disorientating as I was expecting to reach the NEXT roundabout in the chain and suddenly was aware I was travelling on the same stretch of road again.

    The remarkable thing was that the change-over seemed to happen at the location with closest resonance to other members of my family.

    Hope that makes sense. I have never experienced that sensation before.

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    Quote Posted by jimbobule (here)
    Can anyone cast light on this? I experienced what seemed like a glitch a few weeks ago. Back story. Was returning from a fishing trip to a regular haunt in the countryside away from everyone, to get some peace.
    Welcome to the forum!

    And do see this most interesting thread:

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    Now you mention it, had a weird feeling that week (first week of August 2021)! It felt over long, like we'd had an extra day. I sometimes feel time glitches. I don't know if it is timeline shifts natural or deliberate, or a side effect of time travel.

    Mandela Effect.... The James Bond movie where Jaws meets the girl with no braces on her teeth and they smile and their smiles don't match anymore, so it is less funny now?

    I remember her wearing Braces and that being the point of the humour. Her silver teeth matched his. I have checked my own copy of the movie, and the braces are gone!
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    The James Bond movie where Jaws meets the girl with no braces on her teeth and they smile and their smiles don't match anymore, so it is less funny now?

    I remember her wearing Braces and that being the point of the humour. Her silver teeth matched his. I have checked my own copy of the movie, and the braces are gone!
    Moonraker, Yes. This was the critical tipping point for me personally that caused me to be 100% certain that something highly strange had happened.

    It was an old movie (1979), but I'd downloaded and watched it relatively recently, just before the Mandela Effect reports started flooding in. And Dolly (the girl featured) absolutely had braces. It was a cute, funny little connection with 'Jaws' that everyone remembered.

    And I wasn't remembering it dimly from back in 1979. It was just about a year or so earlier, no more than that.

    I'd had the movie archived on a disk that was sitting in a drawer totally unconnected to the net. When the reports that Dolly had lost her braces started being posted, I immediately dug it out to check my own copy again. And sure enough, it had changed.

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    And sure enough, it had changed.
    In the very beginning I too was convinced that something had changed - that she had originally been wearing braces. But now a much more prosaic explanation seems more likely (far more likely).



    When the content creator's daughter who had never seen Moonraker before is asked at the end, "did Jaws's girlfriend have braces on her teeth?’" She doesn't respond with "No" as you would expect from someone who never saw the film in 1979 or at any time since, making her immune to the Mandela Effect. Instead she replies, "I think so, but not sure."

    What could possibly give rise to her uncertainty? What suggested to her that Dolly may have been wearing braces?

    I agree with the video, and strongly suspect that perception, on a sub-conscious level, is being subtly reinforced by misleading observational cues, leading one to believe in something that simply isn't there.

    When we later hear the statement that Dolly was wearing braces (a very logical assumption), our minds default to that mental image. We form the juxtaposition with Jaws and automatically agree with it. False memories can be very persuasive when the power of suggestion is strong. In the case of Jaws's super-sized braces, it isn't surprising this myth endures like it does.

    Our beliefs are further strengthened by Memory Conformity, described as, "a situation in which one person's report of a memory influences another person's report of that same experience".

    Human perception is extremely easy to fool (as we so VERY well know).
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Moonraker, Yes. This was the critical tipping point for me personally that caused me to be 100% certain that something highly strange had happened.

    It was an old movie (1979), but I'd downloaded and watched it relatively recently, just before the Mandela Effect reports started flooding in. And Dolly (the girl featured) absolutely had braces. It was a cute, funny little connection with 'Jaws' that everyone remembered.

    And I wasn't remembering it dimly from back in 1979. It was just about a year or so earlier, no more than that.

    I'd had the movie archived on a disk that was sitting in a drawer totally unconnected to the net. When the reports that Dolly had lost her braces started being posted, I immediately dug it out to check my own copy again. And sure enough, it had changed.
    She did have braces .... or as I recall she did and it was the whole point of the scene.

    There was a digital graphics, image guy that made a web page about it but that short page, with very large gif images (at the time) disappeared ....
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    Default Re: The Mandela Effect: What does it mean??

    Also, there was an advertisement in Europe (can not remember which country) where the guy who played jaws in the movie goes into a bank and the teller smiles at him and she is wearing braces. (this was pointed out for those people who say that she never had braces)

    @Star Mariner - she did have braces. Without the braces now, the scene doesn't really make any sense.

    For those of us who experienced the changes, we know the changes occurred. If you are one of the people that didn't experience the changes, there is no way to convince you because you did not experience the changes.

    For me. one of the perplexing things is why only some of us and not everyone?

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    "And I wasn't remembering it dimly from back in 1979. It was just about a year or so earlier, no more than that."

    posted by Bill Ryan



    Same for me...I watch James Bond movies here und there...one night watched all movies where the sets where make by Ken Adam (Berliner).

    That was after visiting his permanent exposition in Berlin, were he donate all blueprints (all movies with Sean Connery and 2 or 3 with Roger Moore) and..." DR. Strangelove how I learn to love the Bomb " or something like that...

    Watching "Moonraker" hit me hard...for the same Braces reason (???)


    We live now in another timeline...hopefully the best one for us...



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    Default Re: The Mandela Effect: What does it mean??

    She absolutely had braces. No question.

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    The James Bond movie where Jaws meets the girl with no braces on her teeth and they smile and their smiles don't match anymore, so it is less funny now?

    I remember her wearing Braces and that being the point of the humour. Her silver teeth matched his. I have checked my own copy of the movie, and the braces are gone!
    Moonraker, Yes. This was the critical tipping point for me personally that caused me to be 100% certain that something highly strange had happened.

    It was an old movie (1979), but I'd downloaded and watched it relatively recently, just before the Mandela Effect reports started flooding in. And Dolly (the girl featured) absolutely had braces. It was a cute, funny little connection with 'Jaws' that everyone remembered.

    And I wasn't remembering it dimly from back in 1979. It was just about a year or so earlier, no more than that.

    I'd had the movie archived on a disk that was sitting in a drawer totally unconnected to the net. When the reports that Dolly had lost her braces started being posted, I immediately dug it out to check my own copy again. And sure enough, it had changed.
    I did not realise, but this is a thing on the internet. Bill, does your disk copy of Moonraker show Dolly having braces (which I remember from when I watched the movie back in the day)? Can you take a screenshot of Dolly with braces?

    Seems really weird that so many people remember her with braces. I don't think that many people watched that Finnish advert.

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    I have to agree with others here that I 100% remember that Dolly had pigtails & BRACES. It was the whole point of the scenes in Moonraker...Jaws & Mini Jaws.

    I remember this Bond film so vividly because I was so scared of Jaws as a child, but this film stopped that fear, as I completely saw jaws differently for his love of Dolly.
    When a kid is scared for some reason, and they're no longer afraid (in my case, due to this film for me), they remember it, heck I remember my relieve at 'Jaws' being human, and in love with this braces wearing woman. She had braces, and jaws became a good guy from his love for her.

    The weird thing is if you look at the current scenes of Dolly without braces, she is overly expressing her smile...just as if she is trying to 'show off' her teeth.
    Why would you smile so wide...so hard, unless there was a point.
    What I remember is the point was to display those gnashers with the braces on them!
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    Quote Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
    Bill, does your disk copy of Moonraker show Dolly having braces (which I remember from when I watched the movie back in the day)? Can you take a screenshot of Dolly with braces?
    No, my archived offline copy didn't show Dolly with braces. That was the whole interesting point. It had changed, while untouched and all on its own in my drawer.

    It hadn't been somehow digitally altered remotely. All of reality had changed regarding that tiny detail, including all the history of the detail anywhere.

    But memories were NOT so altered, because memories don't exist entirely in the 4D space-time universe. It's only the physical world that changed, leaving people's memories as they always were.
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    ...

    ... well... SOMETHING was altered... if not the recorded media, then it was the perception of first viewing that got manipulated. That would be a wholesale mind control op... a sort of enforced collective hypnotic pareidolia!

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