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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    Merge with this thread?
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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    Akasha merge means it will not be seen by new people but only die hards! ... The questions remains: why dailymail decided to bring this out NOW? (I know it is "old news" ... but is it really?)
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    A CONSPIRACY theorist has been found dead in Poland — just days after he texted his mum instructing her to “investigate” should anything happen to him.

    Max Spiers, a 39-year-old father-of-two, was found dead on a sofa in Poland, where he had gone to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs, reports The Sun. He was ruled to have died from natural causes despite no post-mortem examination being carried out on his body.

    But his dark investigations into UFOs and government cover-ups may have made him enemies who wanted him dead, says mother Vanessa Bates, 63. In a chilling text message to his mum just days before his death, Max wrote:

    “Your boy’s in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate.”

    Originally from Canterbury in the UK, Max was a former classmate of Orlando Bloom. He lived in the United States for a few years, but had returned to the city to stay with his mother, before jetting off to Poland.

    Vanessa said: “He was making a name for himself in the world of conspiracy theorists and had been invited to speak at a conference in Poland in July.

    “He was staying with a woman who he had not known for long and she told me how she found him dead on the sofa.

    “But I think Max had been digging in some dark places and I fear that somebody wanted him dead.”

    Max made a career out of investigating UFO sightings and alleged cover-ups. More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment.

    His unexplained death, and its subsequent treatment by the authorities, has left many online followers convinced he was killed by government agents. Conspiracy theorists have long been convinced that UFO chasers who get too close to the truth are “bumped off” by the secret services or so-called men in black.

    On one website, Project Camelot, a blogger wrote: “The entire circumstances are suspicious and I urge everyone to encourage the release of details about what really happened and call for an autopsy.

    Another, Craig Hewlett, added: “If it wasn’t true what he talks about then why would they kill him? Healthy people don’t just get sick and die, they get poisoned.”

    Mum Vanessa, an English teacher, also buys into the theories.

    She said: “Max was a very fit man who was in good health and yet he apparently just died suddenly on a sofa.

    “All I have is a death certificate from the Polish authorities that it was from natural causes, but no post-mortem was done so how can they tell that? They are also refusing to release any paperwork about it to me because, absurdly, I don’t have his written permission.”

    Max was buried in Canterbury cemetery after his mother arranged to have his body flown home a week after his death. A post-mortem examination was carried out by a pathologist in east Kent, but Vanessa says more than two months later she still does not know the result, or whether there will be an inquest.

    She added: “Apparently, he had not suffered any obvious physical injuries but he could have been slowly poisoned, which is why the results of toxicology tests from his post-mortem are so important.

    “He has a brother, Josh, and sister, Becky, who are both devastated, as are his two boys. We all want answers to this and I will continue to fight to get to the truth.” The North East Kent coroner’s office would only confirm the death was at the “very early” stages of investigation.

    This article originally appeared on The Sun and was reproduced with permission (video is on the website in link below)

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...ampaign=buffer
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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    Fit and healthy and only 39.
    And he just dropped down dead ?

    There is a disturbing pattern of UFO investigators dying suddenly
    of bizarre cancers, suicide, road accidents etc.

    Prime facie, UFO researchers should have the same life span and
    suicide rate as other types of researcher: astronomers, genealogists, etc.

    This one line in the above report makes me think he may have been
    killed for reasons of keeping some unknown activity out of the spotlight:

    Quote "More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of
    well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment."
    I presume Spiers wasn't about to expose the selfless charitable work
    of these people.
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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

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    Merge with this thread?
    Good idea - thanks - done.

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    Akasha merge means it will not be seen be new people but only die hards! ... The questions remains: why dailymail decided to bring this out NOW? (I know it is "old news" ... but is it really?)
    I'm glad Akasha noticed that this was old news (July 2016, apparently.)

    I place a higher priority on keeping the substantial amount of material on this forum well organized, than I do on getting clicks on old news, reposted as if it were new.

    Sometimes old threads really do get substantial new views, if they have more substantive activity.
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    It has been mentioned on a main stream radio station here today (17th October 2016) in the UK BBC Radio 4 at about 5.25 pm. An associated mentioned some one tried to kill him with snake venom. He also mention "16" and connection to the British military to control us physically and non physically...take it for what it is worth. The autopsy was performed and was "inconclusive" according to the report on the Radio station. It is interesting that radio 4 even mentioned a story about this kind of thing usually it is quiet about such matters.
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    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    It has been mentioned on a main stream radio station here in the UK BBC Radio 4 at about 5.25 pm....
    Yes quite strange to hear something like this on Radio 4. BBC Radio 4 is the BBCs primary news radio station. The report also mentioned that Max Spiers gave a message to his mother and close friends that if he died to investigate, and he died two days later.

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    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    It has been mentioned on a main stream radio station here in the UK BBC Radio 4 at about 5.25 pm....
    Yes quite strange to hear something like this on Radio 4. BBC Radio 4 is the BBCs primary news radio station. The report also mentioned that Max Spiers gave a message to his mother and close friends that if he died to investigate, and he died two days later.
    The interviewer took it seriously as well, so something is changing somewhere, the ridicule about all this years ago is dissipating

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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    London newspaper (Tabloid Trash) clippings today on the tube/underground which I tore off

    London Standard



    The Metro



    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/co...-a3370686.html


    edited: Bogeyman is correct, The Standard and Metro are both Tabloid Trash
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7365276.html

    Independent even ran the story, this is a mainstream paper also, not a tabloid trash.

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    NEW INFO ABOUT MAX SPIERS see first section of this video report:
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    There is definitely something suspicious and to rub salt in the wound , the Polish
    authorities want £1,000 to extend the closure of his case as she waits for
    the UK autopsy report , she explains in the vid.....


    Vanessa Bates On Why She Believes Her Son, The Researcher Max Spiers, Was Murdered.



    Published on 17 Oct 2016
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    They discuss Max at the beginning of this interview and Alfred says that he heard
    that he was possibly going disclose some info about Hillary Clinton and John
    Podesta e.mail hack .....Then it goes into the secret world of space programmes
    and more.It turns into a very interesting interview connecting dots.


    Alfred Webre On Max Spiers, Exopolitics, Elite Paedophilia, Geo-Engineering & More.



    Published on 17 Oct 2016
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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    And if this case wasn't strange enough...

    Today, a new report on "Mirror" (Not sure if this is news or tabloid site; maybe someone from UK can comment.)

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-n...-bloom-9067330

    "British UFO expert and Orlando Bloom schoolmate found dead in Poland 'sacrificed by Satanists'"


    "UFO expert Max Spiers was sacrificed by satanists who wanted to 'rid him of demons', his girlfriend believes."

    She told the Sun: "He was terrified, he wanted to leave.

    "He said he was trying to get away from them.

    "They were doing very dark black magic and satanic rituals to ‘de-programme’ him and get rid of demons.

    "He said they had given him something that had put him in a
    coma for two days."

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    Quote "UFO expert Max Spiers was sacrificed by satanists who wanted to 'rid him of demons', his girlfriend believes."
    In the interview with Max's mother she says his girlfriend says he was sick bringing
    up a black fluid , just prior to his death and he had a large red mark on his
    forehead. She explains it better.....
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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    Bases 37 Reports on The Death of Max Spiers Compilation



    Published on 18 Oct 2016

    Base 37 with the as it happened updates, as we got information from those in Poland, which is all we have to go on. In cooperation with Project Camelot, that continued lack of actual information from the Warsaw locale, means any firm evaulation is inconclusive. With Four interviews (Actually 5) of Max as his final days came close, is all we have to go on. Refusal to give information has led to conclusions that there is something to hide. It must be made very clear that all the information we have had is what the Poles have chosen to give us.

    This is a re-upload of deleted updates / fast blasts, with one extended update, made for a TV crew covering the case.

    In recent weeks myself was allegedly exposed to toxins of some kind, some claim were designed to kill me, by snake venom. An event on a Dublin plane was, it seems a distraction. Its now clear this is of international concern, being covered by multiple media.

    Max is dead, and the Poles chose to focus on filming him as his health declined, rather than give him urgent medical care which, even they say a Dr stated he required.

    Even if his actual cause (now months later) is "normal", the manner in which this has been handled, Infers Gross irregularity.

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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    The text is worth reproducing here in full:


    UFO Hunter Max Spiers’ Fiancée Reveals What He Was Threatening To Expose Before His Death

    Max Spiers, a healthy thirty-nine-year-old researcher of UFOs and paranormal activity, was visiting the city of Warsaw in Poland last week to give a public talk about details of what some of his investigations had turned up. He was staying with a female acquaintance who he hadn’t known for very long when he was discovered dead. According to the Polish authorities who took temporary custody of the body, he died from ‘natural causes.'

    Black magic group implicated in the murder of a British man

    However, his mother, fiancée, and friends have strongly disputed the ruling by the Polish authorities and are adamant that Spiers was murdered. His friends have pointed out that the day before his dead Spiers was taken ill and was reported to be vomiting some black liquid. This strongly suggests that he could have been poisoned, and his fiancée, Sarah Adams is certain that she knows the reason why.

    Adams have said that her late fiancé was on the precipice of revealing something huge about a black magic group he had uncovered in his investigations into a paranormal phenomenon. This group is alleged to count many illustrious and powerful figures in its number including prominent politicians and celebrities from the world of entertainment. It has been alleged that this occult group is an international organization.

    According to Adams, Spiers had been receiving death threats about his investigation into the group. She said that in his line of work, he often received death threats from those who were threatened by his sleuthing but these seemed to be more serious than those he had received before. Adams said that before his death both she and Spiers were seriously concerned that someone might follow up on these intimidating messages.

    Spiers himself certainly appeared to be concerned about his safety in the hours leading up to his untimely death. The day before he was discovered dead he sent a text message to his mother, Vanessa Spiers, telling her that if anything happened to him that he wanted her to investigate. She too believes that her son was murdered.

    The body has now been repatriated to the United Kingdom where a separate autopsy team from Kent County Council have performed a second post-mortem. The result of this found that the cause of death was ‘inconclusive,' markedly different from what the Polish authorities recorded. Now Spiers’s family and friends are galvanized to find out what happened to their loved one and hopefully bring the perpetrators to justice.

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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    Quote Posted by bogeyman (here)
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7365276.html

    Independent even ran the story, this is a mainstream paper also, not a tabloid trash.
    Just for reference, I'll tell you a story about the Independent.

    Many years ago, I sent them a story I'd put together about a safety risk at Trawsfynydd Nuclear Power Station in North Wales ( there was a crack in the retaining wall of the cooling water lake ).

    A couple of weeks later the Independent had a 2 day story based on a report that their own reporter had written about a trip he'd just made with a container of waste from the plant to Liverpool dock. He emphasised how impressed he was by the professionalism and safety measures he'd witnessed.

    There was not one reference to the issue I'd tipped them off about.

    So, there's a 'yardstick' for you to measure the Independent by.

    The power Station was decommissioned quite soon afterwards, but at no time was the crack ever mentioned.

    "back to topic". errr, I guess.
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    Default Re: Max Spiers found dead, 16 July 2016

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    By Matt Hunter For Mailonline
    Published: 18:18 GMT, 16 October 2016 | Updated: 06:27 GMT, 17 October 2016

    ~wonder why dailymail decided to bring this out NOW? (I know it is "old news" ... but is it really?)
    I'm wondering the same thing, if he was killed mid July, why is mainstream on it now? Can anyone explain this to me please

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