WW3 may be imminent

[greybeard]

Georgia Guidestones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones


Inscriptions

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones[8] in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

Chris

[Sueanne47]

I found Bill's Transcript on the Anglo-Saxon Mission, which was quite long!

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/an...script_en.html

[Sueanne47]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Georgia Guidestones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones


Inscriptions

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones[8] in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

Chris

Be not a cancer on the earth? ...what like them? that's weird they should write it in stone about truth/beauty/love! I dont understand these weirdo's

surely 'maintaining' (looking after) humanity under 500,000,000 means that first they have to 'get' 500,000,000 how is that debunked Chris?

[greybeard]

It was debunked that the guide stones specifically promoted killing people.
By debunked I mean found to be untrue--the statement you used was used before also miss quoting what is on the stones.
The Internet is full of theories but not much fact.

There is no evidence what soever, that I know of, that the stones were commissioned by the Illuminate or anyone with evil intent.

You can read evil intent or take that some well intended, perhaps naive, person was giving advice to future generations.
The fact that so many languages were used is perhaps an indication of advice to the whole world.
There could be an assumption that the guidelines were put there in case there was a near extinction of the human race by any cause natural included--there have been near extinction events before.

Im not saying my thoughts are correct just an alternative way of looking at the stones.

Ch

[Sueanne47]

Did you know about the time capsule underneath it?

On the stone it says:

Time capsule
Placed six foot below this spot
On
To be opened on

Explained here : (with a big stain on the top of the stones)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xYCLWZcRx3g

[greybeard]

Yes I knew about the time capsule Sueanne 47
I watched the video-- nothing new as such just much is implied about the stain on top.

Incidentally Yoko Ono was a supporter of what she saw as a positive message with the stones -ie "An age of reason."

from post no 157.
‘Deep psychic need for an enemy and Putin is filling it’ – The Spectator Deputy Editor

Ch

[Sueanne47]

We saw a battleship out to sea off Norfolk's Walcott beach this evening, we took Milly for a run on the beach. There's a Russian flotilla on its way round here to the med :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yKWThC9DsiY

[Sueanne47]

Getting back to the Time Capsule, there is a very interesting thread about it from abovetopsecret,
there is a theory from georgiaguidestones.com (interesting speculation) :

The 2nd post says :

The Georgia Guidestones are incomplete, new stones are to be added to the site.
That means the sponsors of the stone intend to have a ceremony after the climax event,
that levels the population of the human race to half a billion.

The climax event is going to take place soon,

The climax event is going to involve changes in the fixed heavens.

The new stones shall mark the earth's orientation to the new heavens.

The dates for the new calendar are to be carved in the stone at that time.

Hang on! its going to be a wild ride ;-)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread803280/pg1

Someone suggested a pack of smokes & a bottle of Whiskey buried

[Sueanne47]

Russian trucks moving Nuclear warheads near Tatishevo :

Also Steve says, "Russia also threatening North Korea, if they do not stop their own threats of using a pre-emptive strike of nuclear weapons, Russia said they will invade North Korea and take out everything they have" (!)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JO95CqNY3X8

[Sueanne47]

Clinton's revealing of nuclear launch response time, puts America at risk :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dYBbUE30r54

The Pentagon are furious :

http://libertynews.com/2016/10/penta...during-debate/

[Sueanne47]

Putin issues Ultimatum to US while Turkey crosses Syrian red line :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MxJbkkeNJrk

Civilians trapped in East Aleppo, humanitarian crossings under fire :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0NJ-NrXmGio

[lucidity]

Posted by Hervé (here)
As a matter of "Business as Usual":

‘Limited & proportionate’: Obama vows to continue ‘self-defense’ strikes in Yemen

Published time: 15 Oct, 2016 00:30
Edited time: 15 Oct, 2016 04:51
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A Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) is launched from the guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill. File photo. © U.S. Navy / Reuters

Washington reserves the right to strike targets in Yemen whenever “necessary and appropriate,” President Obama told Congress after the US military carried out its first direct attack in the bloody conflict, using the pretext of self-defense.
TrendsYemen unrest

This week, for the first time since the 18-month-old conflict began, USS Nitze launched Tomahawk cruise missiles at targets in Yemen in retaliation for alleged attacks on the US Navy. The initial Pentagon assessment said that the “self-defense” attack resulted in the destruction of three radar sites, with no indications of civilian casualties.


On Friday US President Barack Obama informed Congress about authorizing the strikes “in response to anti-ship cruise missile launches perpetrated by Houthi insurgents.” In the “War Powers Resolution” letter, Obama stated that US armed forces targeted radar facilities which the US believes had been involved in “the October 9 launches and other recent attacks.”

“These limited and proportionate strikes were conducted to protect our personnel and our ships and will preserve our freedom of navigation in this important maritime passageway,” Obama explained.


[...]


Full article: https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-...-self-defense/

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... that's "First Strikes" under the guise of "Retaliations."

It's good to see that the USA has the courage to stand up to Yemen.

Yemen ! ... just another impoverished bully in the middle east. :-|

[Baby Steps]

https://youtu.be/L3znA-ENsQo

Turkey and Saudi have nukes?

https://youtu.be/qY8BiE4Wd9c

[Sueanne47]

Train load of tanks cross Ukraine :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bvXit0V2XtE

Elements of the Syrian war :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=G-TKsjiEFCE

Steven says the religious countries are being attacked to bring in the one world religion. "The US & Nato are using Turkey to be a part of setting up their NWO.
They are Sunni's BTW, they are a Nato member.

If this is who he is going to use to muster his military power, when it comes time for God to strike Israel...they will use Turkey to do it with. And the leader will be coming right out of the Vatican"

[lucidity]

Posted by Baby Steps (here)
https://youtu.be/L3znA-ENsQo

Turkey and Saudi have nukes?

https://youtu.be/qY8BiE4Wd9c

Turkey is not one of the nations that supposedly has nukes.

A detail that isn't widely reported in MSM is that Turkey
currently has a huge military presence in Syria which is
just north of Allepo.

Russia has basically said, to Turkey, don't go near Allepo
or you'll be viewed as the enemy and subject to bombing.
(So potentially a conflict between Russia and Turkey
-- remember the downing of the Russian plane by Turkey
earlier this year ?)

So my view about Turkey is that this might be propaganda
(part of the ongoing information war)
Or .. it might conceivably be true. With the different sets of disunited
psychos running the USA military... pentagon, CIA, NWO/cabal ...
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if someone's handed Turkey some nukes
to play with.... viz.. one of the USA factions or Israel.

However, when Saudi Arabia wanted to nuke Yemen last summer,
nobody gave the Saudi's nukes. Instead, Israel nuked Yemen on
Saudi's behalf. Would that same pattern be repeated with Turkey ?
Or would Israel somehow 'sneak' nukes into the hands of the Turks ?

We don't know.. But.. if this story is true, and given the recent tensions
between Russia and Turkey, and the proximity of the Turkish divisions
to Allepo... yeah.. it's possible. And maybe we'll soon be hearing
about Russia vs Turkey military engagements... and then what ? Nukes ?

TPTB would love to embroil Russia in a larger proxy war in Syria.
So this scenario is conceivable.


As for Saudi Arabia... they dont 'officially' have nukes.
But... last year there was the story that some 'deal' or 'understanding'
existed between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia .. to the effect, Pakistan
would supply nukes to Saudia Arabia. So the possibility exists
that that agreement has now been honoured.

So it's possible that one or both of Turkey and Saudi Arabia have nukes.


But... if you hear reports of nukes exploding in Syria... start thinking about
moving into a nice cottage in Bill Ryan's neighbourhood. Because that's when
the potential for the sh!t hitting the fan goes up exponentially.... IMHO.

[Sueanne47]

Turkey is part of the Nato Nuclear Weapon sharing agreement, so is Belgium, Germany, Italy & the Netherlands. Saudi Arabia *may* have nukes from Pakistan, and Israel has them.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factshee...ponswhohaswhat

[ozmirage]

Instead of WWIII, a collapse of socialism would prove catastrophic.

After the collapse of socialism, where there is no public charity, no retirement pensions, and one’s family will be the only means of support when one is old and infirm, imagine the consequences of THAT!

[Sueanne47]

Why are Putin's Russian Satan Nukes pointed at the US :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=at7z_3C_J5o

[Cara]

Here is an alternative view about the "imminence" of WWIII.



From http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...itarism210.htm, which in turn sources it from http://anonhq.com/

The world is being fooled into believing by the United States of America and Russia, as well as the fear mongering media, that the two countries are ready to destroy humanity with World War III.

However, here are a few questions you must ask - or facts you must ponder over - before you believe the threat of WWIII is real…

How Do You Know WWIII is on the Horizon?
Because of the way facts have been misreported.

Consider these stories:

China Orders Citizens to Prepare for War:
It is no secret that China considers the United States as the force behind the Philippines' move to take the South China Sea to the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which ultimately ruled that China's claim in the South China Sea is invalid and unlawful.

However, since China deployed warships and submarines close to the disputed area and even conducted extensive live ammunition drills, the mainstream media twisted Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan's words to convey that he called for citizens to prepare for a "people's war at sea" to defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Russia Orders Citizens to Prepare for Nuclear War:
After the United States severed diplomatic ties with Russia over Syria following the collapse of a cease-fire agreement, Russian authorities conducted a massive civil defense drill involving 40 million people.

The mainstream media was quick to term the exercise - held annually since 2012 on October 4, which is Civil Defense Day in Russia (in fact, it involved over 60 million people in 2013) - as the country's way of preparing its citizens for a possible nuclear war with the United States.

The so-called responsible media further tried to create panic by claiming that the country had already built underground shelters to protect over 12 million people in Moscow, in case there is an attack from the United States (well, Russia is not the only country who has underground shelters to protect its citizens during natural or man-made disasters).

America Admits WWIII is Around the Corner:
According to the mainstream media, since the United States is losing the proxy war with Russia in Syria, it aims to overthrow the Syrian government that has the Russian backing.

Since Russia deployed its nuclear-capable Iskander missiles at Kaliningrad, which borders Estonia, Poland and Lithuania (NATO members), it was reported that the United States tested two dummy nuclear bombs in the Nevada desert to show its military might.

The world went berserk after it was reported that Pentagon finally confessed that WWIII was inevitable and that it will be extremely lethal and fast.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE

Is the Threat of WWIII Real?

Highly unlikely. Because friendly nations do not go to war over ego - or non-issues.

Consider these facts:
1. Interconnected Economies:

China is United States' largest goods trading partner with $598 billion in total goods trade during 2015.
Goods exports totaled $116 billion; goods imports totaled $482 billion. Chinese companies are expected to invest $20 billion to $30 billion in the United States in 2016, compared with $15 billion in 2015 and $11.9 billion in 2014.
Despite the Ukraine/Crimea related sanctions, the bilateral America-Russia trade turnover in 2014 amounted to $29.2 billion, which is 7.2% higher in comparison with 2013.
Russian exports to America was $18.5 billion, while American exports to Russia was $10.7 billion.

2. Partners in Space:

The government of United States cannot go on a full-scale war with Russia because its astronauts are depended on Russian Soyuz flights to reach the International Space Station.
The Pentagon will need to buy up to 18 more Russian-built RD-180 engines to power rockets carrying U.S. military satellites into space until at least 2022.
Though NASA is banned from engaging in bilateral agreements and coordination with China regarding space, it is in the interests of U.S. national security to engage in space cooperation with China.

3. Connecting People:

Beijing is on course to build a massive 8000-mile high-speed train line connecting China, Russia, Canada, and the United States via a 125-mile underwater tunnel for at least $2 trillion.
The entire trip is expected to take two days, with the train traveling at an average of 220 miles per hour.
On its part, Russia is planning the world's greatest superhighway connecting the country's eastern border with the American state of Alaska, crossing a narrow stretch of the Bering Sea that separates Asia and North America.

Even if WWIII Happens, What Would They Get?

Syria? South China Sea?

Absolutely nothing, because there is nothing to fight for.

Nations fight for supremacy, to snatch each others prized possessions, or claim their rights on an oil-rich nation. America and Russia are already superpowers. China is an economic powerhouse. So there is no fight for supremacy.

Altercations over South China Sea have no power to snowball into a full-fledged war.

As far as Syria is concerned, if the Cuban missile crisis, the Kosovo War, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Crimea, Palestine, and even Cold War could not incite WWIII, do you really believe Syria can?

If India and Pakistan - two nuclear powers with all the reasons to go on war with each other - can avoid a conflict with global implications, why can't America, Russia, and China?

Then Why are They Hinting at WWIII?

To fool us. To deflect from real issues they are accountable for.

The United States has failed to,

• honor its commitment to lift anti-Iran sanctions
• ensure freedom of trade
• encourage scientific, technological, and business ties between Iran and Western countries

NATO countries have failed to meet defense spending promises.

As of 2016, the United States spends more than $600 billion annually to fund its military forces and Overseas Contingency Operations, which is about 40% of the world's military expenditures.

According to the 2015 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, Russia's authoritarian government,

• restricts citizens' right to choose their leadership in free and fair elections
• selectively prosecutes racial, ethnic, religious, and sexual minorities and migrant workers
• deny [sic] due process to defendants in politically motivated cases
• fails to protect human rights

For more than a decade, Russia has been attempting to diversify, innovate and modernize its economy, but has failed disastrously; calls to develop long-neglected sectors of the economy continue unheeded.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=f3glzaq3Tkw

Do You Think the "At-War" Countries Can Afford the Real Cost of Mutually Assured Destruction?

The First World War killed over 38 million people and cost about $186 billion in direct costs and $151 billion in indirect costs.

The Second World War killed over 60 million people and cost $341 billion to the U.S. and $192 billion to the Soviet Union alone, in 1945. The U.S. has killed more than 20 million people in 37 "victim nations" since World War II.

Russia is not at war with anyone. America is.

However,

• Does the country really need direct confrontation with Russia to unleash new terror?
• And, is Russia really ready for WWIII?

A Reddit user writes:

Putin is in no respect prepared for a conventional war. His country could not afford it, is not adequately equipped to conduct it, and it would backfire spectacularly.
This inward-facing propaganda is intended to stoke panic and fear within his own population, very much in keeping with how Putin has conducted himself so far.

Corruption, censorship, national debt, police atrocities, 9/11 conspiracy theories, US presidential elections, and the petrodollar are a few of the numerous issues the two countries want to shift your focus from and make you believe that WWIII is imminent because of tensions in Syria and at the South China Sea.

https://youtu.be/MLwIErQYYf4

Why WWIII will Almost Certainly Never Happen

The Week observes:

The possibility of complete annihilation provides a huge disincentive to launching and expanding total wars.

Sure, accidents could happen, but the possibility is incredibly remote. More importantly, nobody in power wants to be the cause of Armageddon.

The level of economic adaptation - even for large countries like Russia and the United States with lots of land and natural resources - required to adapt to a world war would be crushing, and huge numbers of business and livelihoods would be wiped out.

It is clear at least that the incentives for world war are far lower than they were in previous decades, and the disincentives are growing.

This could very well be called Cold War II, but that won't serve America's or Russia's purpose.

The bullies are just fooling around.

• How do disaster preparedness drills suppose to mean WWIII?
• How do only Syria and South China Sea become bone of contentions and not Kashmir, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Colombia, ISIS or North Korea?

Don't close your eyes and think tensions are not there. Instead, open your eyes and see why they are there. Stop this fear mongering.

Don't let a few countries decide your future, at least not through war...

Sources

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...to-kaliningrad
http://anonhq.com/russia-defense-sys...army-attacked/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...omic-relations
http://www.russia-direct.org/analysi...ssia-relations
http://www.businessinsider.in/RANKED...w/51930374.cms

[lucidity]

Posted by ozmirage (here)
Instead of WWIII, a collapse of socialism would prove catastrophic.

After the collapse of socialism, where there is no public charity, no retirement pensions, and one’s family will be the only means of support when one is old and infirm, imagine the consequences of THAT!

Haven't we had news already that Pension funds have been raided
following the banking crisis.

Maybe we're already in that situation.. even without WW3.