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    Default Make Your Full-Size Car Get 200 MPG

    Check out this info. If the videos don't work, do YouTube searches on the titles.

    http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?p=1310

    "Running Your Car on Gas Vapor - Stop Getting Screwed at The Pump"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IkmPK6ikc

    This white vapor comes from separating the Atoms in gasoline.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_95v-Ap5esI

    the truth about gas and vapor part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKEQLBg6a8

    the truth about gas and vapor part 2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMDCT67xBM

    https://www.google.es/webhp?sourceid...+vaporized+gas
    https://www.google.es/webhp?sourceid...ed+gas+youtube

    http://electrifyingtimes.com/gasolinevapor.html
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    RUNNING ON VAPOR
    By Bruce Meland,
    Editor and Publisher of Electrifying Times

    It is an often a misconception that most vehicles burn gasoline vapors in their internal combustion engines. The fact of the matter is, gasoline powered vehicles burn finely divided particles or droplets that are sprayed from the carburetor or fuel injectors, into the engine cylinders.

    This is a very wasteful process of converting gasoline or diesel to energy. Maybe 20-30 % efficiency at most. It has been known and demonstrated for 60 or more years that burning gasoline vapors will give easily 5 times the mpg and near zero emissions. Actually if the vapors are heated to the necessary temperature of 450 degrees F, the gasoline vapors are actually fractionalized by catalytic cracking and converted to smaller light molecular hydrocarbons, methane and methanol. In my travels around the world I have been in contact with some very informed inventors, relatives or associates of inventors who have known of many high mileage low emission vapor carburetors. I am sure many of you have heard of the Pogue, Covey, and Fish high mileage carburetors.
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    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2011/0...ue-carburetor/
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    Updated on Monday, May 24, 2010 in Technical Innovations
    the 200-mpg carburetor
    Pogue Carburetor
    Don Garlits, a drag racing legend, poses Aug. 2, 2002, with a 125-miles-per-gallon Pogue Carburetor at Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing, Ocala, Florida.”
    photo by Bruce Ackerman, Star Banner, 2002
    In Dec. 12, 1936 Canadian Automotive Magazine states that the standard carburetor gets about 25 mpg at only 9% efficiency. Therefore the Pogue carburetor is 72% efficient overall at 200 mpg.
    “A carburetor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of gas caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its Canadian inventor Charles Nelson Pogue in the 1930s. But the carburetor was never produced in enough volume, and mysteriously, Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry. Ever since, suspicion has lingered that oil companies colluded to bury Pogue’s invention.”
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    http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/04/...line_vapo.html
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    There is a website and a CD that have 604 carburetor patents that have been assigned to various companies and never developed. There were 53 inventors who wouldn't sell out. Each of them had fatal "accidents" two to three weeks after refusing to sell their patent(s). I knew four of these inventors personally. The website is http://www.fuelvapors.com/ .


    http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...s/?page_id=941
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    In 1982; in Denver, Col.; I designed and built an ugly but functional vapor carb. for my 1967 Dodge Coronet. It used exhaust heat to assist in the vaporizing of the gasoline- which was sprayed into the heat exchanger at the bottom of the device- and the vapor rose through a maze of approx. 25 feet folded back and forth on itself at which it exited into a 2 1/2? ID hose (radiator hose) which I ran to an adapter on top of my existing carb which I used to start the 318 cubic inch engine. I achieved 87 miles per gallon. The machine shop that I had help me make the contraption told me that they had helped an earlier inventor with a very NICE carb. to adapt it to his auto – with approximately similar results. (Mine only ran me about 500 total w/all the junk you have to assemble to get it to work.) They warned me not to make it too public, because the other inventor got the notice of some oil people from Texas who came up and gave him an offer to assume his invention. He refused. His home and workshop burned down 2 days later! He moved to parts unknown. I just thought you might find it interesting to hear from someone who has done this before. My point in the whole thing was; “If I could achieve 80+ mpg with a total of 500 invested- on a ’67 Dodge Coronet 318 V8; what could Chrysler do with the millions they have to invest?”

    “In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.” The Pogue Carb went into production and was sold openly. [317 were sold?] In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock immediately. His invention caused such shock waves through the stock market, that the US and Canadian governments both stepped in and [successfully] applied pressure to stifle him.

    “he saw Mr. Pogue in the midst of a bunch of oil company big wigs. He named the wigs, but I forget the names. They were heads of Texaco, Shell, Esso, etc. Some of them had red faces, and Mr. Pogue looked like a trapped rabbit.”

    Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry.

    [ see photo of Don Garlits with Pogue carb. on "Super Carburetors Hist." page ]
    see Charles Pogue Carb.

    Ron Brandt is the inventor of the perm-mag motor.

    When he was a young man, he invented a 90-mpg carburetor. He was paid a visit by a man from Standard Oil, another man, and two men wearing US Marshal uniforms. They told him that if he ever made another carburetor, they would kill him, his wife, and two young children. He was quickly persuaded that his life wasn’t worth a “damn” carburetor. He happened to think to memorize the badge numbers of the two US Marshals and so had an attorney in Washington, DC check with the US Marshal’s office. They had no record of the two badge numbers.

    Tom Ogle, a 24 year old mechanic drove 200 miles in a 1970 351 ci. Ford on 2 gallons of gas. Other mechanics and engineers checked for hidden tanks, none were found. Reporters and a camera crew went with him 100 miles out and back; 200 miles 2 gallons. He claimed from the beginning that he did not know exactly how the system worked, just that it did and he proved it time and again. He had hoped other engineers would help to explain what he was doing. I have seen three different news articles on him and reprinted here for your understanding. One states he turned down $ 25 million from backers that would keep it off the market. He had a hard time getting backers that had integrity. Everybody wanted controlling interest and he knew it was going on the back shelf. Tom resisted and tried to get it on the market. Later he was shot and survived, only four months later he did die of an overdose of darvon and alcohol with no suicide note. Nobody explained what became of his idea. A patent was issued Dec. 11, 1979 # 4,177,779. Four months after his death.
    see Tom Ogle Carb.
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    Start watching this at the 2:00 time mark.

    Diesels, Gaswagons & Zyklon-B Part 3 of 6
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ct05io8F9A

    If a gas engine will run on smoke, its running on gas fumes doesn't seem that improbable. I think engineers could work out all the bugs.
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    If this turns out to be true, the word should be spread far and wide.
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    Default Re: Make Your Full-Size Car Get 200 MPG

    Hello Cosmored:
    Thanks for the information! Yes you can make your car run 200 mpg. Here is some more information to add to your thread.
    chancy

    John Weston Link:
    http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...s/?page_id=968

    GasHole (2009) is a documentary regarding Shell Oil writing a book and also finding out how many mpg (miles per gallon ) 1 (one) gallon of gas will let a vehicle travel.
    Enjoy
    http://watchdocumentary.org/watch/ga...4af5b6c2e.html

    Book written by Shell that was talked about in GasHole (2009
    http://www.rexresearch.com/auto2/blackmoreconomy.pdf

    Fuel Economy of the gasoline engine
    http://download.springer.com/static/...580a4ea603e1b3


    Secrets of the 200 mpg carburetor
    http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/upl...00mpg-carb.pdf

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    I'm guessing the big, powerful oil companies don't want to see these
    technologies become widespread.

    So who is fcuking the planet ?

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    Default Re: Make Your Full-Size Car Get 200 MPG

    15 years ago (just for fun) me and my friend run an engine on vapor, when its carb broke down. We used the vacuum created by the engine to vaporize the fuel no need for heating. Its pretty much like this.

    http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...s/?page_id=968

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    Thanks for the feedback everybody.

    I did find something wrong with the documentary though.
    http://watchdocumentary.org/watch/ga...4af5b6c2e.html

    At the 1:21:53 time mark a guy says he worked on the Apollo program and he believes the moon missions were real. The proof that the moon misions were faked in a studio has been on the internet for about ten years or more now.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487

    I suppose a lot of people working on the program were fooled too so it's possible there were no bad intentions.

    When was that documentary made?

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    Quote Posted by lucidity (here)
    I'm guessing the big, powerful oil companies don't want to see these
    technologies become widespread.

    So who is fcuking the planet ?
    No, they aren't real technologies so the oil companies don't care. Do the engines still produce the same amount of heat? if so, well Gasoline only has "so much" energy in it.. you can't exceed that ICE engines are inefficient because they turn a lot of energy into heat.

    All fuel is "atomized" as best as possible by the fuel injectors (carb engines try to do the same, just less efficiently) there are ways to get a little bit more efficent, but there's no way I'm going from 9MPG to 200MPG, the energy just isn't there in an ICE setup burning just gasoline.



    Quote Posted by Cosmored (here)
    The proof that the moon misions were faked in a studio has been on the internet for about ten years or more now.
    some evidence exists that there may have been staged moon photos & possibly video, it's certainly not proof that the moon landings were faked.

    critical thinking is still important.
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    "but there's no way I'm going from 9MPG to 200MPG, the energy just isn't there in an ICE setup burning just gasoline."

    from a mechanics perspective I think its possible. this becomes obvious when you put a minute amount of gasoline in a couple of small plastic bags then fill it with air. light the first one immediately and the other one let the gasoline evaporate and mix thoroughly with the air. the first one will burn with red flame the other will produce a soft thud but compressed inside the cylinder this mixture will create an explosion and pressure that can be converted into useful work not just heat to disseminate. To cut short if one wants to increase efficiency considerably fuel must be vaporize and thoroughly mix with oxygen molecules in the air before feeding into the ICE. Vacuum will help vaporize fuel. installing a longer intake manifold with some mixing contraption inside will also help.
    present ICE's burn fuel and it can be converted to explode fuel by simply doing away with the carbs and replace with vaporizers. IMO
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    For not so long time ago: "There is no way you can convert carbon dioxide directly into ethanol", but look here:


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    The link to the video Gas Hole doesn't work any more so here's a fresh one.

    GAS HOLE - (Full Documentary)
    https://www.facebook.com/TechAnarchi...5598235517625/


    I started this thread a long time ago but they've fixed it so that I can't log in.
    https://www.thedieselgarage.com/thre...00-mpg.148969/

    I'd like to post that video there and bump the thread. Does anyone feel like registering there and doing so?

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    The last video in post #1 doesn't work any more either. Here's something that explains the same thing.

    Video Diesels, Gas Wagons & Zyklon B
    https://ia800905.us.archive.org/13/i...F3OQfBeIIU.mp4
    https://ia800905.us.archive.org/30/i...eO3b_P1Q_g.mp4


    If a gas motor can run on wood smoke, it can run on gas vapor.

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