Posted by AutumnW
(here)
Posted by Bill Ryan
(here)
(But that would
still be best for the country. Those wounds can be healed in time. But a Biden presidency — or a Harris-Clinton one — would be deathly fatal to the US as we know it.)
Posted by Ken
(here)
With the utmost respect, Bill, the problem with you doing this is that there are quite a few forum members who hold an opposing viewpoint. They feel that Trump has been devastating for the US in a number of ways and that the continuation of a Trump presidency would be deathly fatal to the US as we know it.
Posted by TargeT
(here)
This is an open debate, facts have been offered and there is a very clear conclusion; when this post started it was needed as we "didn't know".
we have 4 years of DATA that backs up Bill's conclusion (not opinion).
This statement alone should be easily and clearly backed up by data:
They feel that Trump has been devastating for the US in a number of ways
That is the point of this thread.
I haven't seen anything to back up that statement other than putting the emphasis on "feel"; and that's ok but it's not tracking reality very closely currently.
no one is cowed into silence, they are asked for the reasons behind particular stances, this is the place for those reasons; un backed statements are not overly helpful.
aka: build your case
Posted by AutumnW
(here)
Bill,
Anti racist? The forum is full of anti-racists? I perused the forum for less than 5 minutes after replying to some posts. This is what pops up on a thread written by Ernie Nemeth.
It is the white races that are under siege, the majority, and we had better ready ourselves for the onslaught. And although it is the medical tyranny being rolled out in the country right now, making it seem as though it is not about race, watch who ends up in those interment camps, and who doesn't.
That's for starters. I could go down the rest of your list, I am sure and note all of the contradictions.
Posted by TargeT
(here)
So you are saying that Ernie's very real observation mean's he's racist?
That is a fact based observation, please tell us how it is incorrect and where you see the "racism" in it?
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This isn't addressed to me but I will respond anyway. People are cowed into silence or have left in disgust. Able, intelligent and emotionally intelligent people. This "make your case," is beyond belief.
There are so many examples it is mind boggling. YOu, Target, who years ago stated there was no racism in the U.S. and then went on to insist other posters 'prove' that there is.
Trump's words and actions during the race riots, for one, betray his intent. He is a hard authoritarian. He trumpets at rallies, repeatedly that he has all the cops on his side.
Who does that? Seriously, what politician in their right mind would make a statement like that if they aren't trying to drive home the point that they have police backing, "so don't step out of line?" That's one example and it means something. It is 'felt' by those hearing it. And their 'feelings' are legitimate.
How do you think prey animals survive in the wild? Does a gazelle see a lion approaching and then proceed to work out logically whether they are in danger or not?
There is thinking, and then there is over thinking. Over thinkers are generally those whose emotions are not synchronized with their logic.
It takes both and there is an interplay between them that produces a symphony of appropriate reactions. Without the feeling part, you are basically wandering the musical landscape of life with a freaking kazoo.