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    The Deep State Chaos Op
    Review from Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge of the last DJ interview with C.A. Fitts
    9/28/20
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/dar...tate-chaos-op/
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    (Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1380484)

    "Catherine Austin Fitts joins Dark Journalist to discuss the CoronaHoax Flu d'État - and she says some unexpected things, here:

    In this non-subscriber Part 1 episode, Fitts isn't totally anti-Trump. She notes his impressive physical and mental stamina, for having survived the siege of the past 4 years but she pulls no punches in her criticisms and in some very incendiary insinuations against him:

    "I'm not going to give him a pass on COVID-19. He basically bankrupted hundreds of thousands of legitimate businesses and is allowing the private equity guys to make a fortune taking over that market share.

    "I mean, it's pretty simple. Over here, you got Main Street. You shut them down and you say they're 'non-essential' and then you give zero percent cost of capital to these big guys, who go in and take all the market. It's the ultimate in economic warfare. He just destroyed Main Street.

    "That was him. People say, 'Oh no, it's the governors, the state governors." No. It's not the state governors. If you had told the truth about all of this, it would have shut it down, right away, number one. But number two, if the CDC has the power to stop evictions nationwide, they have the power to stop these shutdowns. There was no scientific basis for them.

    "Trump has to take responsibility for not stopping the riots. He has to take responsibility for shutting down and destroying Main Street. He just bankrupted millions of legitimate people who supported him."

    Fitts also seems to suggest that Trump may be in on the riots on some level, as well as members of the Pentagon.

    That the riots are so incredibly illegal, breaking many laws, that they could be legally shut down in a matter 24 hours, this suggests to her that Trump supports the riots on some level and she wonders aloud if they're being financed by FASB 56 (Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board Statement 56), which Trump approved in 2018 and which authorizes the Government’s use of secret accounting books on a permanent basis, so that the US Treasury can be looted endlessly to finance Black Budget projects into perpetuity.

    She says here, "NSA is tracking them all. The Fed and Treasury, FinCEN know where all the money is, so they know where the money's coming from and the Department of Justice can shut them down.

    "So, you have total intelligence about who they are, where they're coming and who's financing them, and they're breaking the law and Department of Justice can shut it down in 24 hours.

    "I mean, I know what the Department of Justice could do to me, right? I had a business. I was a fine, upstanding citizen in Washington and I know what was done to me. So don't tell me they can't shut this down. They can shut this down like that. And if they're not doing it, there's a reason...

    "Those aren't street revolts. That's an operation, right? So, let's call what it is. It's a multi-layered op. It's an op and somebody's financing the op...

    "Way back in the beginning, during Minneapolis, Trump said, 'I'm going to send in' - I forget, it was the National Guard or the Army or whatever - and the and the DoD went ballistic. And I'll tell you how they behaved. They behaved like people who had negotiated contracts with private firms for all of this and you had a Scope of Work and you had priced it on a very tight Scope of Work and that Scope of Work did not include doing this in the face of soldiers with guns trying to stop them. That would have blown the price, like a hundred times and called for a different army.

    "It looked exactly like a big contracting Scope of Work mess...I've said, 'Okay, they're on both sides.' They negotiated with the team to go in and do this. They don't want to send in a team to stop the team, they just are paying to go in and do this. I mean, that's my question. Are these riots being financed with FASB 56 money?"

    Fitts suggests an incredibly underhanded agenda behind allowing the rioters to continue tearing the country down and it's because the US is effectively bankrupt. However, "You still have obligations. You have military pensions, you have Social Security, you have all these healthcare obligations, so you've pulled the assets out but you haven't gotten rid of the liabilities.

    "Well, how do you get rid of the liabilities? If you have a civil war and people demand that their states secede from the nation, you can say, 'Well, the people didn't want the vehicle anymore, so they they would rather walk away. They chose to secede rather than get Social Security.'

    "You need a war to get the people to self-destruct their own covenant. In other words, they are owed trillions of dollars in healthcare, trillions of dollars in retirement obligations, trillions of dollars in many different regulatory obligations and now, what you want to do is you want to slither out of them without admitting that you stole all the money.

    "Your job is not just to slither out of Social Security and FDIC insurance and all these other obligations, your job is to make sure you can keep the $21 trillion. And if you destroy the mechanism, then they have no vehicle to ever get the $21 trillion back. If you bankrupt the country now...I would argue you can put that $21 trillion back on the plate and claw it or assets back in a bankruptcy to help pay for those obligations, to keep your promise...

    "You need the mechanism to be destroyed and you need the people to destroy the mechanism. Remember, you're trying to get the younger generation to support you destroying their family wealth and the money they stand to inherit.

    "I just had a back and forth with a wonderful young man on my subscriber you know the forum on our website, where he was saying he wants to secede from the nation and, who cares about the obligations to all those Boomers who betrayed him and sold him down the river?

    "And I said, 'Wait a minute. Let's get the state of play correct. You had this group steal all the money. Those greedy Boomers were sitting there, paying for your college, taking care of their grandparents, doing philanthropy, keeping the civic life in their community going and they got snookered. They put all that money in the pension fund that these guys then stole, so you know they're not your enemy it's a little bit like the Harry Potter game, you know, make the insiders out to be Wizards and your stupid parents out to be Muggles.

    "Who cares about the Muggles? Let's ditch them! Not realizing you're not ditching them, you're ditching the inheritance they were going to leave you, right? If you look at the inter-generational politics and the sexual and racial politics of a lot of these games, it's amazing but it's all designed to divide and conquer.""
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    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/adi-donald...185335323.html

    Adiós, Donald Trump. I won’t forgive or forget what you did to my Miami | Opinion
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    Miami HeraldNovember 7, 2020
    Adiós, Donald Trump. I won’t forgive or forget what you did to my Miami | OpinionAdiós, Donald Trump. I won’t forgive or forget what you did to my Miami | Opinion

    Adiós, President Donald Trump.

    You came to Miami and used our love of homelands lost, our wounds as exiles to manipulate our people into thinking you’d be a messiah for the Americas when you were only thinking about your interests all along. You and only you, first and foremost.

    You divided family, neighbors, friends, colleagues.

    I’ll never forget that the last time I saw a coworker with whom I shared good times and good work. His look of disgust, then avoidance of me. He didn’t like my columns exposing your racism and anti-immigrant agenda.

    He died, and that’s how you left things between us.

    He, dazzled by your promises of a free Cuba and your Make America Great Again charade. Me, chronicling the damage done to the soul of a city that uplifted, not rejected, immigrants until you came along, demanded acquiescence, and the spineless Republican leadership complied.

    Always the campaigner and never the leader the nation needed, you turned toxic campaign lines into toxic policies that separated families, ripping children from their parents’ arms. Your nasty, soul-crushing rhetoric had people in this town who came as children and who know the suffering justifying you. They should have known better.

    No matter the issues, no matter the politics, I had never felt ashamed of my community — until you came along, appealed to the worst in us and stunk up Miami-Dade with fumes of racist, homophobic, classist evil.

    I am still broken inside from seeing and hearing my people turned into wholesale liars and fascists, echoing you and your white-supremacist dog whistles. They not only hurt Miami, they also put in jeopardy the cause of a free Cuba. You lose advocates and allies when you act like you want to replace communism with fascism.

    I may forgive (though never forget) the walking wounded in Miami-Dade who fell for your falsehoods, but I won’t forgive you, the Chusma-in-Chief, who elevated the vulgar to presidential heights.

    Joe Biden will be the healing voice this community and America need.

    Good riddance to you — no thanks to battleground Florida in which your surrogates resurrected its dormant Jim Crow ways in a pitiful attempt to disenfranchise Blacks and Latinos, part of a social-engineering experiment you and your advisors concocted to halt the browning of America.

    Hello, President Joe Biden. Hello Vice President Kamala Harris, history-maker, the first woman to hold that office in a country that, at least in its politics, is more machista than Latin America.

    Thank you, Pennsylvania, cradle of the Declaration of Independence.

    In Florida, Democrat Joe Biden couldn’t shake the lies you and the GOP told. The disinformation campaign you ran calling Democrats radical socialists and communists ran deep and dark, and Biden lost the state.

    In Florida, Biden couldn’t shake Trump’s lie that Democrats are radical socialists | Opinion

    Thankfully, the rest of the nation didn’t need Florida to send you packing to your former “Winter White House,” Mar-a-Lago.
    Disciples remain

    But, ugh, to have you as a full time Florida resident now.

    What a curse: more of you.

    You’ll be happy in this state, solidly in Republican control now thanks to you. No doubt, your faithful soldiers, led by your disciple Gov. Ron DeSantis, will continue singing your praises and spinning the undemocratic falsehood that the election was stolen from you ‘til kingdom come.

    They will continue using their alliance with you to uplift themselves, making bad political trouble when what they should be doing is helping heal the country, our state, our neighborhoods.

    But I hope you’ll tire of us. I hope your change of address to South Florida was only for show and motivated by our accessible and expedient (in most cases) vote-by-mail system, the one you continue to degrade with lies.

    Why don’t you stay away locked up in your gaudy Trump Tower?

    Or claim asylum in Russia? Anywhere but here will do.

    We’ve got a lot of mending to do here.

    Despite your brief reign, Trumpism will remain alive and well in Miami-Dade, I know.

    Here we often talk about how when the Castros’ evil dictatorship finally dies out in Cuba, the country will need not only physical, but also psychological and societal, reconstruction.

    The same applies to us. We have a similar arduous task ahead in our cities and our nation. We need a soul makeover, we need political surgery to retake healthy debate on issues, not engage in fear-mongering and red-baiting.

    You were the caudillo we fled, no savior of Cuba or Venezuela or Nicaragua, and you almost destroyed the best of the United States, its democratic checks and balances, in four endlessly long years.

    Trump isn’t our savior from socialism, Florida Latinos. He’s the ‘caudillo’ we fled | Opinion

    Unfortunately, Trumpism will linger the way Castroism does in Cuba and Chavismo in Venezuela. That’s the legacy of dictatorships, authoritarianism and populism.

    For now, all we can do is celebrate that your re-election campaign is dead, grateful for the good sense of other battleground states in the nation.

    “I’d been waiting to fly my flag until it had the correct meaning again!” texted my friend Ileana Oroza, a retired Cuban-American journalist and educator, with a photograph of Old Glory flying in the wind from her balcony in Miami Beach.

    I choked up when she sent it, this symbol of democracy and decency prevailing in our country.

    Adiós, Donald Trump. Good riddance to your brief, dishonest and hateful reign.

    You were the caudillo we fled, no savior of Cuba or Venezuela or Nicaragua, and you almost destroyed the best of the United States, its democratic checks and balances, in four endlessly long years.

    Trump isn’t our savior from socialism, Florida Latinos. He’s the ‘caudillo’ we fled | Opinion

    Unfortunately, Trumpism will linger the way Castroism does in Cuba and Chavismo in Venezuela. That’s the legacy of dictatorships, authoritarianism and populism.

    For now, all we can do is celebrate that your re-election campaign is dead, grateful for the good sense of other battleground states in the nation.

    “I’d been waiting to fly my flag until it had the correct meaning again!” texted my friend Ileana Oroza, a retired Cuban-American journalist and educator, with a photograph of Old Glory flying in the wind from her balcony in Miami Beach.

    I choked up when she sent it, this symbol of democracy and decency prevailing in our country.

    Adiós, Donald Trump. Good riddance to your brief, dishonest and hateful reign.

    There's nothing else to say or comment on...............

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    delete it all.
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    Yeah, these people really hate DJT, so obvious....

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    Again the media steps in to try to foment division.
    Watch for it.
    Sadly, I suspect that they will NOT stop.

    Out of curiosity, whether we were pro-Trump or anti-Trump, can we agree that the media has been purposely creating anger and fear?
    Can we continue to examine everything to guard against divisive propaganda?

    (Below is a link from 2013 about the author of the OP article, Fabiola Santiago.)
    Fabiola Santiago just may be the Miami Herald's most fraudulent columnist
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Again the media steps in to try to foment division.
    Watch for it.
    Sadly, I suspect that they will NOT stop.

    Out of curiosity, whether we were pro-Trump or anti-Trump, can we agree that the media has been purposely creating anger and fear?
    Can we continue to examine everything to guard against divisive propaganda?
    ..
    I have studied a bit of communication and media research and history while doing master’s degree and indeed, media lives from fear. It just has been found a long time ago, during WW2 if I remember right, that negative information that generates fear spreads much better. In the days of digital advertising (which I know alot about btw) the one who has most visitors prevails. And you get visitors by generating shocking news, which often contain the element of fear.
    Ps. I use Avalon with mobile -> sorry about the typos

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    You know a lot about digital advertising. No doubt knowing Finland for having worked there. All creative energy of a whole generation of programmers goes in this technology. All manipulators. The digitization is the greatest threat to our civilization says Paul Roberts. I despise these hidden programmers who destroy democracy and now even elections. I can only say this bluntly, sorry.

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    At least 90% of the corporate media is owned by a handful of globalist corporations and the CIA is in full control over it. From day to day you can watch a talking point and even a word or a phrase be repeated on your local news all the way up to the national networks. We first learned about how the CIA controls the media in the "Church Hearings" where "Operation Mockingbird" was first exposed. They have carefully crafted a false reality for nearly a century. Before the CIA the ruling elites had a less sophisticated means of spreading propaganda. And now with social media censorship combined with holywood filth and the CIA media shills they have created a virtual reality to trap your mind so that you sell out yourself, your family, and your country to a sinister globalist agenda. Every nation in the transatlantic system has fallen victim to the very same program. Since Trump took office we have been hit with a nonstop assault of the worst propaganda from literally every direction. From movies to TV shows, late night comedians, university professors, media mockingbird shills, on down, they have hit us with everything they have to maintain control. And the weakest of mind and heart are the ones that fall for it while the rest of us see it all for exactly what it is.

    They will stage terrorist attacks, stage coups of world leaders, rig elections, release genetically engineered viruses, corrupt our institutions of learning, shut down or buy out our independent media sources, strip us of our means and right to personal defense, divide our families and friends, harass and intimidate us, corrupt our minds and hearts, and finally censor and arrest us for our universal right to free expression and personal liberty. And it doesn't matter which country you are in because the system is active in every nation under the transatlantic umbrella.

    From my experience you can't waste your time on the weak minded even if you convince them that they are wrong because you will never get them to stand up for themselves and our collective community. You have to find like minds and hearts and educate and empower them to force the change that is necessary to stop this disgusting evil death cult. The future that they have for us is not our future. And don't ever lay down, give in, and accept it. Ignore those who say, "you can't do anything about it", because they are only speaking about their self. They never had it in them to begin with and they likely never will in this life and possibly the next. Don't let the darkness envelope you because our future is bright but only if we look within ourselves for what we need to turn this around. A fractional 1% of evil people and their hordes of deluded minions cannot stop a unified majority.
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    "Joe Biden will be the healing voice this community and America need."

    How can anybody seriously believe this?

    A. Joe Biden, I mean Joe Biden the healing voice of anything?

    B. It was up to the writer to heal his relationship with his colleague.

    C. Same goes for the individuals making up the community.

    Come on, stop looking for messiahs to heal everything for us. We have to become the change we are looking for. If we can't change our own hearts, Joe Biden certainly can't!

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    Quote Posted by IChingUChing (here)
    "Joe Biden will be the healing voice this community and America need."

    How can anybody seriously believe this?

    A. Joe Biden, I mean Joe Biden the healing voice of anything?

    B. It was up to the writer to heal his relationship with his colleague.

    C. Same goes for the individuals making up the community.

    Come on, stop looking for messiahs to heal everything for us. We have to become the change we are looking for. If we can't change our own hearts, Joe Biden certainly can't!
    These people are suffering from a CIA induced case of Stockholm Syndrome. They now see their abuser as their source of comfort while they turn against those who are trying to help them.
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    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    You know a lot about digital advertising. No doubt knowing Finland for having worked there. All creative energy of a whole generation of programmers goes in this technology. All manipulators. The digitization is the greatest threat to our civilization says Paul Roberts. I despise these hidden programmers who destroy democracy and now even elections. I can only say this bluntly, sorry.
    Yes. But tbh, media and advertising have had the same power already for decades. Digital advertising just provides the tools for bigger client pool. Before you had to have huge budgets to spread the message with TV and print... I dont think there is undo, the best is to learn the tricks and use them to advance preferred agenda. Sad but that is the reality.
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    Pompous and tedious.
    Liberal use of terms "racist", "fascist", "white-supremacist" but no understanding of what these terms actually mean.
    Yawn. Anyone reading this is on a hiding to nothing.
    Trump a white-supremacist? Seriously??

    If you're going to write about Trump's undoubted shortcomings, at least do so in a manner that isn't insulting to the intelligence.
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    Quote Posted by Arak (here)
    Yes. But tbh, media and advertising have had the same power already for decades. Digital advertising just provides the tools for bigger client pool. Before you had to have huge budgets to spread the message with TV and print... I dont think there is undo, the best is to learn the tricks and use them to advance preferred agenda. Sad but that is the reality.
    Although I don't fully understand it, the Smith-Mundt Act which safeguarded against propaganda was ammended and then passed in 2013 by Obama.
    Maybe someone with more knowledge about this could explain what exactly happened with that, but blatant media twisting and lying sure seemed to accelerate after that! Before, although there has always been right or left leaning media, false info still appeared to be illegal.

    "The SMA established that via the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), Voice of America (VOA), and Radio Free Europe (RFE), the U.S. State Department and Office of Public Affairs were authorized to disseminate propaganda to foreign publics, but were strictly prohibited from releasing that same propaganda in America for public consumption. Put simply, our government was permitted to lie to people in other countries, but not to us here at home.

    This prohibition was lifted in 2012, when the SMMA was signed into law by President Obama, allowing the same propaganda disseminated by our government to foreign publics, to now be released in the U.S. for the very first time."
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    Also, subliminal advertising use to have regulations, but not anymore. With the advances in technology the majority of people are very susceptible to all kinds of manipulation.

    People need to be made aware of what they are faced with on a daily basis. It is tough to break through once a person is buried under.

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    I can't say I understand why it was deleted. I've seen equally negative posts (many) about Biden and Harris.
    It was not a comment based on data, negative posts about the Bidens are data based.

    This is a large difference.
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    Right. Okay. Thanks for that.
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    Sorry, not humiliated at all. A vile hateful man does not deserve my respect and I stand by my words.

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    Sorry, not humiliated at all. A vile hateful man does not deserve my respect and I stand by my words.
    Do you have anything to show as examples of this conclusion you have come to or are you satisfied that it is how you feel?
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    Quote Posted by Ken (here)
    I can't say I understand why it was deleted. I've seen equally negative posts (many) about Biden and Harris.
    It was not a comment based on data, negative posts about the bidens are data based.

    This is a large difference.



    All the data I need are to listen to the filth that comes out of trump’s mouth, and watch his actions. He is a proven pathological liar and his words are hateful. I don’t need more data than that. There are 4 years worth of videos and tweets that show all who care to listen and read what kind of a hateful man he is.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Tinman, thanks for quoting your post immediately above. That will help readers to see why it was deleted.

    Tinman is talking about a much reviled public figure, not a fellow forum member. Is the forum now "cleansing" itself using a strange 'higher ground' principle? You would be wise, Mr. Ryan, to curb your own enthusiasm.

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