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    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
    Yes.

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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    Okay, thanks. I had supposed, at first, that your attempt to make me retract my statements/leave the thread was based on a personal dislike. Now it's clear that it's my interpretation of the incident that you object to. In other words, you think it necessary to speak on behalf of those forum members who disagree with my point of view, and to protect them from my thinking. Staggering.

    So, on with the 'discussion'. Time for some more food for thought. Here's an interview, done by Anna North, with an expert in education, especially of the form enjoyed by privileged rich children, in which he explains what he finds wrong with the behaviour of the Covington students:

    "The smirking silence with which Sandmann confronted elder Nathan Phillips was actually incredibly telling, according to Adam Howard, an education professor at Colby College and the author of "Learning Privilege: Lessons of Power and Identity in Affluent Schooling". Sandmann’s expression clearly “communicates that I’m better than you, that I don’t even have enough respect for you to even say anything to communicate,” Howard told me.

    The student’s behavior was the embodiment of privilege, Howard said, and nothing that came after the initial viral video changes that.

    I reached out to Howard, who previously wrote for Vox about the culture of elite private schools, to ask how that culture might help us understand the March for Life video and its aftermath. In a phone interview, which has been condensed and edited, he said that the video and the reactions to it expose not just the problem of privilege in America but our inability as a society to reckon with that problem.

    Anna North

    What did you see when you saw the March for Life video for the first time?

    Adam Howard

    When you saw the young man’s face looking at the elder, and just the smirk, and then having a whole group around him of his fellow classmates, all boys, doing the various things they were doing — chanting, doing tomahawk things, racist behaviors — this is what privilege looks like. This is what he has learned not only from his schooling but also from other sources of education, which include family and the larger national context.

    What he’s learned is this contempt toward others, this kind of privileged white male gaze that communicates, “I’m better than you, I don’t even have enough respect for you to even say anything to communicate, but I will communicate everything I need to through my body language.” That overconfidence, and that sense of entitlement, all of it was being performed in that moment.

    As I was reading the articles, the ways in which people were trying to make sense of that initially, none of the conversation really focused on privilege and that these were a group of privileged boys from a privileged institution.

    Anna North

    What was your reaction when you saw additional videos released after the initial viral video, and the conversation around those subsequent videos?
    Adam Howard

    Even in the other videos, [Sandmann] was still looking stone-faced, smirking. That privileged white male gaze that every minority is very familiar with — when that gaze is upon you as a minority, you know what it communicates, and it communicates that “you’re inferior to me, I have a particular kind of perception of myself that places me above you.” That performance was also being reinforced by all his classmates kind of cheering him on.

    Silence plays an incredibly important part in that performance, because as soon as the boy says something, then we can confront him, we can dissect it, we can challenge it, and so part of it was that he wasn’t even giving anything over to be challenged in any way.
    We don’t know what he was exactly thinking at that moment, because he didn’t communicate anything verbally. That’s how privilege works — it’s constantly performed and embodied in particular ways where it’s hard to challenge it.

    Anna North

    It sounds like you’re saying we can see privilege at play in this video regardless of Sandmann’s statement or the longer video that was released later. Is that right?

    Adam Howard

    Yes. And therefore, it would be useful for us to begin to ask the questions of, how do young people learn those lessons that allow them to be okay with showing such contempt toward others who are different from themselves? Do they learn that through their education? Do they learn that through their religion? Do they learn that through their family? [Do they learn that through] the national context, and what’s going on in our country and what’s going on in the larger world?
    I would argue that all of those things are teaching them incredibly important lessons, and we need to be more mindful and intentional about the kinds of lessons we want to teach young people.

    Anna North

    Earlier in our conversation, you mentioned that the video reminded you of something that happened at your institution. Can you talk about that incident?

    Adam Howard

    Several years ago, we had this incident on campus, and it sent shock waves throughout our small, elite liberal arts college. It involved members of a male sports team. Shortly after this incident, I was asked, along with another faculty colleague, to lead and facilitate this community conversation.

    Several hundred people attended, and it was a three-hour event, and it was emotionally charged — people crying, and raised voices every once in a while. It was very obvious that a lot of people were affected by this in pretty profound ways.
    What was interesting is that the first two rows of this gathering space were all teammates of the guys who were involved in this incident, and they sat there and didn’t say a word for the entire three-hour period. They had that smirk on their faces, their arms crossed, and even though they didn’t say anything, their contempt for what was going on, everything they were communicating without saying a word — it completely overshadowed everything that we were trying to do.
    We were trying to heal our community, and we weren’t fully able to. It was so destructive; it was so disruptive. Anytime you challenge privilege, there’s going to be attempts to disrupt those efforts.

    Anna North

    How should the fact that Covington Catholic is an all-boys’ school factor into our understanding of this incident?

    Adam Howard

    When I research all-boys’ schools, the headmasters and others will claim that it allows students to express themselves freely, and that they’re more involved in the arts and in creative endeavors and that they’re not negatively impacted by having girls present and the peer pressure that goes along with that. I think that’s a bunch of crap.

    I think it instead reinforces very toxic ways of thinking about what it means to be a boy and what it means to be a man. The fact that you don’t have women there often limits the opportunities for you to develop healthy, productive relationships across gender.

    Often you have this kind of mob mentality that forms, because elite schools, part of what they do is teach their students to always prove that they’re the best. So what ends up happening is that it’s always a contest of who’s the best man. A lot of that is connected to sexual conquest, proving certain things that just aren’t very healthy ways of thinking about what it means to be a man.

    Anna North

    What can we learn as a society from this whole incident — the first video, but also the longer video and the reactions to all of it?

    Adam Howard

    What’s problematic from this larger incident, if you take [it] from the moment this goes viral to now, is that we easily dismiss things that need to be discussed. People are trying to find holes in the original narrative, and as soon as they find those holes, then that gives us permission to not discuss what we need to be discussing.

    Part of that is, what are privileged, white, young men learning about themselves, not just through their education and their family but through what’s going on at the national level? How they are making sense of themselves, others, and the world around them, and then how are they acting on that? Those are the types of conversations that we need to be [having], and I don’t know how we get there. It requires us to actually be willing to get past, “This narrative is flawed, therefore there’s nothing to be discussed here,” to, “What can we learn from this?”

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    I still see only a howling horde of kids, Tomahawk-chopping and roaring with laughter at a Native American, one smirking young man in the center. I see the same display of unearned, unexamined, vaguely menacing privilege that I did on Saturday.

    In the days since the incident on the National Mall, the revelation which is supposed to have changed everything is that Nathan Phillips approached the group of kids, and not the other way around. Who approached whom is only relevant if one 64-year-old man with a single drum is more menacing than a gang of teenage boys. The kids are still cackling at an elder, still mocking him with war whoops. The behavior, in its most generous interpretation, is dishonorable.

    The smirk of privilege, framed by MAGA hats and mocking laughter, is all that’s there, despite what the kid in the picture—via the public relations firm his family had the means to retain—says. It is unmistakable, which is why the image was shared as widely as it was. It would not have gone viral if it didn’t resonate, if we hadn’t seen this particular strain of American smirk as long as we’ve had photography.

    We’ve seen it on the faces of the white people intimidating black patrons at the Woolworth’s lunch counter, in the pictures of freshly-integrated high schools in Little Rock. We’ve seen it in our own personal histories, if we have ever been that terrifying combination of young and different in any way. We saw that smirk with our eyes, but we felt it in our stomachs.

    Nathan Phillips, a veteran in the indigenous rights movement, was that man in the middle.

    In an interview Saturday, Phillips, 64, said he felt threatened by the teens and that they swarmed around him as he and other activists were wrapping up the march and preparing to leave.

    Phillips, who was singing the American Indian Movement song that serves as a ceremony to send the spirits home, said he noticed tensions beginning to escalate when the teens and other apparent participants from the nearby March for Life rally began taunting the dispersing indigenous crowd.

    Phillips said a few people in the March for Life crowd began to chant, “Build that wall, build that wall,” though such chants are not audible on video.

    “It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

    Phillips kept drumming and singing, thinking about his wife, Shoshana, who died of bone marrow cancer nearly four years ago, and the various threats that face indigenous communities around the world, he said.
    “I felt like the spirit was talking through me,” Phillips said.


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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
    Yes.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    Okay, thanks. I had supposed, at first, that your attempt to make me retract my statements/leave the thread was based on a personal dislike. Now it's clear that it's my interpretation of the incident that you object to. In other words, you think it necessary to speak on behalf of those forum members who disagree with my point of view, and to protect them from my thinking. Staggering.
    Brian
    You know there's multiple angles and the full video out there where you can clearly see that (fake) "Vietnam veteran" Nathan Philips walked into the group of kids (very rudely) and when Sandman didn't move he just banged his drum right in the kids face... it was ultra passive aggressive and apparently **** this guy is known for doing.


    Your now spreading known lies and falsehoods (at least in the post I quoted part of, ridiculous easily disproven lies...); I would hope you would self edit, if not... then yes, someone needs to bring the truth into the conversation.
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    5G: Harmful effects of a new technology
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    5G: Harmful effects of a new technology

    by Jon Rappoport Feb 21, 2019

    * See “5G Radiation Dangers—11 Reasons To Be Concerned,” by Lloyd Burrell (twitter), at electricsense.com. Well worth a read.

    * Of course, read Patrick Wood’s (twitter) instant classic, Technocracy Rising, which explains the hidden agenda of Globalism in the 21st century. Patrick’s blog is here.
    “Along with the 5G there is another thing coming — Internet of Things. If you look at it…the radiation level is going to increase tremendously and yet the industry is very excited about it… they project 5G/IoT business to be a $7 trillion business.”
    — Prof. Girish Kumar, Professor at Electrical Engineering Department at IIT Bombay
    5G, the latest and greatest method of faster wireless transmission, is coming on with a storm.

    Governments are promoting it as if the future of humanity depends on it. It MUST BE implemented.

    When governments and corporations see technological daylight up the road—and big money—they run toward it joined at the hip. Consequences be damned.

    And now, 5G.

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    I want 5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. It is far more powerful, faster, and smarter than the current standard. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind. There is no reason that we should be lagging behind on.........

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    ....something that is so obviously the future. I want the United States to win through competition, not by blocking out currently more advanced technologies. We must always be the leader in everything we do, especially when it comes to the very exciting world of technology!

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    A few of the many corporations involved include Samsung, Intel, Qualcomm, Nokia, Huawei, Ericsson, ZTE. This is a global operation, and many governments are backing the push.

    And the consumer gets what? The ability to watch the reruns of Law&Order he’s already watching? His current TV reception isn’t good enough? The appliances in his home will all be connected to Internet and talk to each other and spy on him and record his energy use, in conjunction with smart meters, for the Greater Good.

    Somehow, you really need your toaster connected to the Internet? You want that? You can’t get along without that?

    UNDOUBTEDLY, A KEY PART OF THE 5G PROGRAM IS, EVENTUALLY, MASSIVE NUMBERS OF DRIVERLESS CARS ON ROADS ALL OVER THE WORLD. This is the plan. Cars are connected and talk to each other. Humans play no role in this. The Technocratic Internet of Things decides how, at any given moment, to regulate traffic flows. Humans learn to be passive.

    AND WITH THE INTERNET OF THINGS, THE TECHNOCRATIC ELITE WILL BE ABLE TO INSTALL ENERGY-USE QUOTAS AND CEILINGS FOR EVERY PERSON AND EXERT TOP-DOWN CONTROL ON THE PLANET.
    “Mr. Jones, this is the voice of your house speaking. You have reached the assigned limit of your energy use for the month. Try to get along without energy until next month’s allotment comes online…”
    At electricsense.com (5/12/17), we learn about the purported “upside” of 5G:
    “5G and IoT [Internet of Things] promises to connect us in our homes, schools, workplaces, cities, parks and open spaces to over a trillion objects around the world. It promises cars that drive themselves, washing machines that order their own washing powder and softener plus of course super fast downloads and streaming.”

    “According to Fortune.com 5G will support at least 100 billion devices and will be 10 to 100 times faster than current 4G technology. (4G was already about 10 times faster than 3G).”

    “It’ll bring download speed up to 10 Gigabits per second. This would let us have an entire building of people send each other data in close to no time, thus improving productivity.”
    Now, electricsense.com takes us into the disaster of 5G:
    “5G will utilize smaller cell stations (and the technology of beamforming) that’ll scramble/unscramble and redirect packets of data on a no-interference path back to us. This could mean wireless antennas on every lamp post, utility pole, home and business throughout entire neighborhoods, towns and cities.”

    “Thousands of studies link low-level wireless radio frequency radiation exposures to a long list of adverse biological effects, including:
    • DNA single and double strand breaks
    • oxidative damage
    • disruption of cell metabolism
    • increased blood brain barrier permeability
    • melatonin reduction
    • disruption to brain glucose metabolism
    • generation of stress proteins”
    “Given that 5G is set to utilize frequencies above and below existing frequency bands 5G sits in the middle of all this. But the tendency (it varies from country to country) is for 5G to utilize the higher frequency bands. Which brings its own particular concerns…”

    “The biggest concern is how these new wavelengths will affect the skin. The human body has between two million to four million sweat ducts. Dr. Ben-Ishai of Hebrew University, Israel explains that our sweat ducts act like ‘an array of helical antennas when exposed to these wavelengths,’ meaning that we become more conductive. A recent New York study which experimented with 60GHz waves stated that ‘the analyses of penetration depth show that more than 90% of the transmitted power is absorbed in the epidermis and dermis layer’.”

    “The effects of MMWs [millimeter waves] as studied by Dr. Yael Stein of Hebrew University is said to also cause humans physical pain as our nociceptors flare up in recognition of the wave as a damaging stimuli. So we’re looking at possibilities of many skin diseases and cancer as well as physical pain to our skin.”

    “A 1994 study found that low level millimeter microwave radiation produced lens opacity in rats, which is linked to the production of cataracts.”

    “An experiment conducted by the Medical Research Institute of Kanazawa Medical University found that 60GHz ‘millimeter-wave antennas can cause thermal injuries of varying types of levels. The thermal effects induced by millimeterwaves can apparently penetrate below the surface of the eye’.”

    “A 1992 Russian study found that frequencies in the range 53-78GHz (that which 5G proposes to use) impacted the heart rate variability (an indicator of stress) in rats. Another Russian study on frogs whose skin was exposed to MMWs found heart rate changes (arrhythmias).”

    “5G will use pulsed millimeter waves to carry information. But as Dr. Joel Moskowitz points out, most 5G studies are misleading because they do not pulse the waves. This is important because research on microwaves already tells us how pulsed waves have more profound biological effects on our body compared to non-pulsed waves. Previous studies, for instance, show how pulse rates of the frequencies led to gene toxicity and DNA strand breaks.”
    This is just a sampling of 5G’s disastrous effects. There is much more.
    “AT&T have announced the availability of their 5G Evolution in Austin, Texas. 5G Evolution allows Samsung S8 and S8 + users access to faster speeds. This is part of AT&T’s plan to lay the 5G foundation while the standards are being finalized. This is expected to happen in late 2018. AT&T has eyes on 19 other metropolitan areas such as Chicago, Los Angeles, Boston, Atlanta, San Francisco and so on. Indianapolis is up next on their 5G trail due to arrive in the summer [2018].”
    It’s full steam ahead for 5G on planet Earth.

    Profits, top-down control, new technology—why bother with extensive health studies?

    Once the effects on the population take hold, doctors will make diagnoses of DISEASES that seem to have nothing to do with 5G. They’ll call it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or a variety of blood disorders, they’ll look for THE VIRUS, and they’ll develop new drugs


    Jon Rappoport

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    Studies!? What studies!? Who needs studies for something which has been decreed harmless... you know... like Glyphosate...
    Each breath a gift...
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    You know there's multiple angles and the full video out there where you can clearly see that (fake) "Vietnam veteran" Nathan Philips walked into the group of kids (very rudely) and when Sandman didn't move he just banged his drum right in the kids face... it was ultra passive aggressive and apparently **** this guy is known for doing.
    I don't think it's just passive aggressive to have someone walk up to you and start beating a drum in your face and loudly yelling all the vowels in the alphabet. That's an act of physical aggression, period.

    If someone get that close up into my face, with a drum or not, my instant reaction would be to back up and make space for a physical confrontation. These high school boys were too young and awkward to know how to respond, so they just stood around smiling stupidly and making jokes. That's what's really sick about the left picking on kids and then trying to make them out to be the freak shows here. Chief AWOL Refrigerator Repairman would never have been able to get in a bunch of adults' faces like that without getting some serious pushback, and that's exactly why you'll only see cowards like him bully kids that are smaller than he is.


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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
    Yes.

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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    You could have bolded the word "white" because I guarantee you (from experience on other threads) that he's using that as a pejorative, too.

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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
    Yes.

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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    Okay, thanks. I had supposed, at first, that your attempt to make me retract my statements/leave the thread was based on a personal dislike. Now it's clear that it's my interpretation of the incident that you object to. In other words, you think it necessary to speak on behalf of those forum members who disagree with my point of view, and to protect them from my thinking. Staggering.
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    You know there's multiple angles and the full video out there where you can clearly see that (fake) "Vietnam veteran" Nathan Philips walked into the group of kids (very rudely) and when Sandman didn't move he just banged his drum right in the kids face... it was ultra passive aggressive and apparently **** this guy is known for doing.


    Your now spreading known lies and falsehoods (at least in the post I quoted part of, ridiculous easily disproven lies...); I would hope you would self edit, if not... then yes, someone needs to bring the truth into the conversation.
    Actually, if you read my analysis, it's based on the video.The video is not lying. It's a video of the actions of the people involved. So, no, I'm not perpetrating any lies.

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    It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    I have usually been skeptical of various theories put forth that we are living in multiple, parallel, universes, timelines, dimensions or such.

    After reading some of the comments on this thread, I am not quite so skeptical.

    In other words, a bit less cryptically, what I saw in the videos of that event, with the drumming Native American walking up and into the face of the Catholic high school student is not reconcilable with what I take your post, and some other earlier posts on this thread, to be saying.

    If I had been that student, and of the age that he is now, and that happened to me, I can imagine that I might have a rather stupid, forced, grin on my face, covering up an inner thought of "Wtf is he (the drumming Indian) doing?"

    The situation that those Catholic students found themselves in, first with the prolonged and provocative insults from the "black muslims", and then with the drumming Indian getting in their face, was rather rude towards those students. I am impressed that that student had the discipline to just stand there, with a strained smile on his face, avoiding any responding motion, as that could have, likely would have, been (mis)construed as a threatening motion.

    So the Lying Lame Stream Media had no recourse but to try to stir up outrage over a brief, unmoving, strained smile.

    A million murdered in wars in the Middle East, arms, body parts, women, children, and drugs trafficed around the world, millions if not billions harmed by toxins in our food, water, air, meds, and surrounds, world leaders assassinated, false provocations staged for false wars, ... and that media hides those stories. But a high school student flashes a brief, strained smile after having been put in a most awkward situation with the rest of his class for the previous hour, and the story leads the evening news.

    ... what is this world coming to?
    Well, I have to differ with you when you describe his facial expression as a "smile". As posted by me in another part of this thread, it's actually an expression of disrespect, a "smirk". Here are some definitions of such an expression. I think most of us can agree that Sandmann's look fits these descriptions and therefore his intent.

    Smirk Definitions

    A smirk is a smile evoking insolence, scorn, or offensive smugness, falling into the category of what Desmond Morris described as Deformed-compliment Signals.[1]

    The specific meaning of a mocking or unpleasant, malicious smile or grin develops in Early Modern English, but until the 18th century, it could still be used in the generic sense " to smile".[4]

    Historical examples

    George Puttenham in the 16th century described what he called “a mock with a scornful countenance as in some smiling sort looking aside”.[5]

    "A constant smirk upon the face, and a whiffling activity of the body, are strong indications of futility," the Earl of Chesterfield once wrote in a letter to his son.[6]

    German-born psychiatrist Fritz Perls considered the most difficult patients to be the clever know-it-alls, recognisable by what he called “a specific kind of smile, a kind of smirk, a smirk that says, 'Oh, you're an idiot! I know better. I can outwit you and control you'”.[7]

    The general feel you get from this expression is of condescending superiority. "Cut the bull$%^& and give me a break..". It's very disheartening and degrading gesture to say the least - use this expression in an argument and it automatically becomes personal.

    A smirk is specific kind of smile, one that suggests self-satisfaction, smugness, or even pleasure at someone else's unhappiness or misfortune.

    Smirk can function as either a noun or a verb: "Wipe that smirk off your face. Don't smirk at me, buddy: you're gonna get yours next!" A smirk implies you think you're better than the person you're smirking at. Ever heard of the term "service with a smile"? Yeah, well, there's a reason it's not "service with a smirk."

    1. The definition of a smirk is a conceited or arrogant smile or facial expression.
    An example of a smirk is the conceited smile you might get after you have just defeated an opponent.

    verb
    1. To smirk is to make a conceited and arrogant facial expression or to smile in an arrogant way.

    When you give an arrogant smile after defeating your opponent, this is an example of a smirk.

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    It's NOT about hating the MAGA hats. It's about calling out the young man wearing it for his provocative behaviour. It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    It's odd to me that even after the MSM narrative on this fell apart, and defamation lawsuits have already been launched, with retractions being made left and right, you still somehow think that standing still and smiling is "provocative behavior" that makes the lying professional victim artist a real victim.

    As usual, feelings count more than facts.

    Dear "Voice ... "

    I’d like to explain what I find wrong with the media coverage of the “standoff”. It’s not that the media were wrong in what they showed. Where they erred was in not showing any of the original confrontations between the Covington students and the group of black protesters who had been hurling abuse at the white students only a few minutes before the video started. Maybe they could have found video on someone’s cel phone regarding this disturbing verbal assault, and showed it along with the video footage that they based their story on. But they did not, for whatever reason. If they had, the media would have supplied some inkling of the thinking of the Covington students i.e. that they had been insulted and intimidated by a hostile group. As such, I think that their disrespectful and provocative reactions to the native elders would have been given an understandable context, and could be seen for what it was: disdainful payback to an inferior group that would not fight back. The man banging the drum was an easy target for their intimidation, and by confronting him they could salvage some of their pride.

    As for the claim that the drummer had approached the group of boys and was standing in front of, that part may have been true, if the direction of the boys’ path had been on the other side of Phillips, the drummer. But that does not appear to be the case.

    What is evident, however, is that the celebrated (at least by the Covington crowd) boy who is seen having a showdown with the native drummer is there by choice. He was not suddenly surprised by the approach of the drummer, nor was his path blocked, except directly to his front, where the drummer was standing. Sandmann took up the position in front of the drummer, after having walked some distance through the crowd in order to face the man. There are wide spaces to his left and right, and, initially at least, two to three body widths of space behind him. He had plenty of wide open options for movement. If anything, it was he who was blocking the path of the Phillips.

    Here’s a link to the “entire” video, as later posted:

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    In it, it’s easy to see that Sandmann first appears 9 seconds in, standing far back from the front, on the steps. In order to get in front of Phillips, he would have had to walk 5 or 6 steps through the crowd. As the video begins, the crowd is already mocking the native presence with pseudo chants, crying out, and performing the insulting “tomahawk chop”. The kids are clearly trying to intimidate the native protesters; during a pan across them, one of the students has his head shoved from behind by one of his classmates, in an effort to force contact between the boy and the drummer. During a pan back to the left, at 25 seconds, Sandmann is still visible on the steps in his original spot. The panning continues back to the right, and when it pans left again, Sandmann can now be seen in his chosen spot, at the 41 second mark. This is a full 15 seconds and 5 paces from his original location in the video. The drummer, on the other hand, has stopped moving forward, and has been rooted to the spot when Sandmann approaches him.

    Sandmann’s maneuvering into place in front of the drummer was calculated to be in the best place possible for demonstrating to his buddies that he was a “big man”. As for demonstrating his feelings to the native protesters, it was his rarely broken smirk that told the tale.

    So, to sum up, the media erred in not telling the whole tale. What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker. The media commentary that ensued may have been excessive, but that will be very hard to prove in a court of law. All one has to do is watch the video.

    Namaste,

    Brian
    Why don't you provide the videos of the disturbing behavior of these boys? I suppose you were next to being a saint when you were that age?

    Namaste,
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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    It's NOT about hating the MAGA hats. It's about calling out the young man wearing it for his provocative behaviour. It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    It's odd to me that even after the MSM narrative on this fell apart, and defamation lawsuits have already been launched, with retractions being made left and right, you still somehow think that standing still and smiling is "provocative behavior" that makes the lying professional victim artist a real victim.

    As usual, feelings count more than facts.

    Dear "Voice ... "

    I’d like to explain what I find wrong with the media coverage of the “standoff”. It’s not that the media were wrong in what they showed. Where they erred was in not showing any of the original confrontations between the Covington students and the group of black protesters who had been hurling abuse at the white students only a few minutes before the video started. Maybe they could have found video on someone’s cel phone regarding this disturbing verbal assault, and showed it along with the video footage that they based their story on. But they did not, for whatever reason. If they had, the media would have supplied some inkling of the thinking of the Covington students i.e. that they had been insulted and intimidated by a hostile group. As such, I think that their disrespectful and provocative reactions to the native elders would have been given an understandable context, and could be seen for what it was: disdainful payback to an inferior group that would not fight back. The man banging the drum was an easy target for their intimidation, and by confronting him they could salvage some of their pride.

    As for the claim that the drummer had approached the group of boys and was standing in front of, that part may have been true, if the direction of the boys’ path had been on the other side of Phillips, the drummer. But that does not appear to be the case.

    What is evident, however, is that the celebrated (at least by the Covington crowd) boy who is seen having a showdown with the native drummer is there by choice. He was not suddenly surprised by the approach of the drummer, nor was his path blocked, except directly to his front, where the drummer was standing. Sandmann took up the position in front of the drummer, after having walked some distance through the crowd in order to face the man. There are wide spaces to his left and right, and, initially at least, two to three body widths of space behind him. He had plenty of wide open options for movement. If anything, it was he who was blocking the path of the Phillips.

    Here’s a link to the “entire” video, as later posted:

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    In it, it’s easy to see that Sandmann first appears 9 seconds in, standing far back from the front, on the steps. In order to get in front of Phillips, he would have had to walk 5 or 6 steps through the crowd. As the video begins, the crowd is already mocking the native presence with pseudo chants, crying out, and performing the insulting “tomahawk chop”. The kids are clearly trying to intimidate the native protesters; during a pan across them, one of the students has his head shoved from behind by one of his classmates, in an effort to force contact between the boy and the drummer. During a pan back to the left, at 25 seconds, Sandmann is still visible on the steps in his original spot. The panning continues back to the right, and when it pans left again, Sandmann can now be seen in his chosen spot, at the 41 second mark. This is a full 15 seconds and 5 paces from his original location in the video. The drummer, on the other hand, has stopped moving forward, and has been rooted to the spot when Sandmann approaches him.

    Sandmann’s maneuvering into place in front of the drummer was calculated to be in the best place possible for demonstrating to his buddies that he was a “big man”. As for demonstrating his feelings to the native protesters, it was his rarely broken smirk that told the tale.

    So, to sum up, the media erred in not telling the whole tale. What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker. The media commentary that ensued may have been excessive, but that will be very hard to prove in a court of law. All one has to do is watch the video.

    Namaste,

    Brian
    Why don't you provide the videos of the disturbing behavior of these boys? I suppose you were next to being a saint when you were that age?

    Namaste,
    Pam
    It's pretty clear to me that you have not read or understood what I have written. Why would I post disturbing video of the boys? I just did.

    At issue is the behaviour of Sandmann. I am objecting to the interpretation of his facial expression as being a benign smile when it was actually a smirk. The problem with the smirk is outlined here:

    Here's an interview, done by Anna North, with an expert in education, especially of the form enjoyed by privileged rich children, in which he explains what he finds wrong with the behaviour of the Covington students:

    "The smirking silence with which Sandmann confronted elder Nathan Phillips was actually incredibly telling, according to Adam Howard, an education professor at Colby College and the author of "Learning Privilege: Lessons of Power and Identity in Affluent Schooling". Sandmann’s expression clearly “communicates that I’m better than you, that I don’t even have enough respect for you to even say anything to communicate,” Howard told me.

    The student’s behavior was the embodiment of privilege, Howard said, and nothing that came after the initial viral video changes that.

    I reached out to Howard, who previously wrote for Vox about the culture of elite private schools, to ask how that culture might help us understand the March for Life video and its aftermath. In a phone interview, which has been condensed and edited, he said that the video and the reactions to it expose not just the problem of privilege in America but our inability as a society to reckon with that problem.

    Anna North

    What did you see when you saw the March for Life video for the first time?

    Adam Howard

    When you saw the young man’s face looking at the elder, and just the smirk, and then having a whole group around him of his fellow classmates, all boys, doing the various things they were doing — chanting, doing tomahawk things, racist behaviors — this is what privilege looks like. This is what he has learned not only from his schooling but also from other sources of education, which include family and the larger national context.

    What he’s learned is this contempt toward others, this kind of privileged white male gaze that communicates, “I’m better than you, I don’t even have enough respect for you to even say anything to communicate, but I will communicate everything I need to through my body language.” That overconfidence, and that sense of entitlement, all of it was being performed in that moment.

    As I was reading the articles, the ways in which people were trying to make sense of that initially, none of the conversation really focused on privilege and that these were a group of privileged boys from a privileged institution.

    Anna North

    What was your reaction when you saw additional videos released after the initial viral video, and the conversation around those subsequent videos?
    Adam Howard

    Even in the other videos, [Sandmann] was still looking stone-faced, smirking. That privileged white male gaze that every minority is very familiar with — when that gaze is upon you as a minority, you know what it communicates, and it communicates that “you’re inferior to me, I have a particular kind of perception of myself that places me above you.” That performance was also being reinforced by all his classmates kind of cheering him on.

    Silence plays an incredibly important part in that performance, because as soon as the boy says something, then we can confront him, we can dissect it, we can challenge it, and so part of it was that he wasn’t even giving anything over to be challenged in any way.
    We don’t know what he was exactly thinking at that moment, because he didn’t communicate anything verbally. That’s how privilege works — it’s constantly performed and embodied in particular ways where it’s hard to challenge it.

    Anna North

    It sounds like you’re saying we can see privilege at play in this video regardless of Sandmann’s statement or the longer video that was released later. Is that right?

    Adam Howard

    Yes. And therefore, it would be useful for us to begin to ask the questions of, how do young people learn those lessons that allow them to be okay with showing such contempt toward others who are different from themselves? Do they learn that through their education? Do they learn that through their religion? Do they learn that through their family? [Do they learn that through] the national context, and what’s going on in our country and what’s going on in the larger world?
    I would argue that all of those things are teaching them incredibly important lessons, and we need to be more mindful and intentional about the kinds of lessons we want to teach young people.

    Anna North

    Earlier in our conversation, you mentioned that the video reminded you of something that happened at your institution. Can you talk about that incident?

    Adam Howard

    Several years ago, we had this incident on campus, and it sent shock waves throughout our small, elite liberal arts college. It involved members of a male sports team. Shortly after this incident, I was asked, along with another faculty colleague, to lead and facilitate this community conversation.

    Several hundred people attended, and it was a three-hour event, and it was emotionally charged — people crying, and raised voices every once in a while. It was very obvious that a lot of people were affected by this in pretty profound ways.
    What was interesting is that the first two rows of this gathering space were all teammates of the guys who were involved in this incident, and they sat there and didn’t say a word for the entire three-hour period. They had that smirk on their faces, their arms crossed, and even though they didn’t say anything, their contempt for what was going on, everything they were communicating without saying a word — it completely overshadowed everything that we were trying to do.
    We were trying to heal our community, and we weren’t fully able to. It was so destructive; it was so disruptive. Anytime you challenge privilege, there’s going to be attempts to disrupt those efforts.

    Anna North

    How should the fact that Covington Catholic is an all-boys’ school factor into our understanding of this incident?

    Adam Howard

    When I research all-boys’ schools, the headmasters and others will claim that it allows students to express themselves freely, and that they’re more involved in the arts and in creative endeavors and that they’re not negatively impacted by having girls present and the peer pressure that goes along with that. I think that’s a bunch of crap.

    I think it instead reinforces very toxic ways of thinking about what it means to be a boy and what it means to be a man. The fact that you don’t have women there often limits the opportunities for you to develop healthy, productive relationships across gender.

    Often you have this kind of mob mentality that forms, because elite schools, part of what they do is teach their students to always prove that they’re the best. So what ends up happening is that it’s always a contest of who’s the best man. A lot of that is connected to sexual conquest, proving certain things that just aren’t very healthy ways of thinking about what it means to be a man.

    Anna North

    What can we learn as a society from this whole incident — the first video, but also the longer video and the reactions to all of it?

    Adam Howard

    What’s problematic from this larger incident, if you take [it] from the moment this goes viral to now, is that we easily dismiss things that need to be discussed. People are trying to find holes in the original narrative, and as soon as they find those holes, then that gives us permission to not discuss what we need to be discussing.

    Part of that is, what are privileged, white, young men learning about themselves, not just through their education and their family but through what’s going on at the national level? How they are making sense of themselves, others, and the world around them, and then how are they acting on that? Those are the types of conversations that we need to be [having], and I don’t know how we get there. It requires us to actually be willing to get past, “This narrative is flawed, therefore there’s nothing to be discussed here,” to, “What can we learn from this?”

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    I still see only a howling horde of kids, Tomahawk-chopping and roaring with laughter at a Native American, one smirking young man in the center. I see the same display of unearned, unexamined, vaguely menacing privilege that I did on Saturday.

    In the days since the incident on the National Mall, the revelation which is supposed to have changed everything is that Nathan Phillips approached the group of kids, and not the other way around. Who approached whom is only relevant if one 64-year-old man with a single drum is more menacing than a gang of teenage boys. The kids are still cackling at an elder, still mocking him with war whoops. The behavior, in its most generous interpretation, is dishonorable.

    The smirk of privilege, framed by MAGA hats and mocking laughter, is all that’s there, despite what the kid in the picture—via the public relations firm his family had the means to retain—says. It is unmistakable, which is why the image was shared as widely as it was. It would not have gone viral if it didn’t resonate, if we hadn’t seen this particular strain of American smirk as long as we’ve had photography.


    We’ve seen it on the faces of the white people intimidating black patrons at the Woolworth’s lunch counter, in the pictures of freshly-integrated high schools in Little Rock. We’ve seen it in our own personal histories, if we have ever been that terrifying combination of young and different in any way. We saw that smirk with our eyes, but we felt it in our stomachs.
    A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest—a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

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    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?
    An example of what ... some of your uses of complimentary or pejorative adjectives ?
    Yes.

    B.
    Okay, thanks. I had supposed, at first, that your attempt to make me retract my statements/leave the thread was based on a personal dislike. Now it's clear that it's my interpretation of the incident that you object to. In other words, you think it necessary to speak on behalf of those forum members who disagree with my point of view, and to protect them from my thinking. Staggering.

    Brian
    ??? I never saw anything that suggested that you retract anything, or any suggestions that you exit the thread? Did I miss something? This comment from you was quite surprising for me, so I scrolled back to find those suggestions, and I never saw them..

    (If it did happen, I apologize for not finding them, but if didn't, I think it fair that I say what I say below... )

    He may have noted that he disagreed with your interpretation of the information, But I NEVER saw him ask you to rewrite anything, or leave the thread at all.. And by suggesting as much, that's not fair to Paul OR Avalon. You're suggesting that an ADMIN is CENSORING CONTENT.. That's A BIG ACCUSATION...

    And for those just reading the last few posts, I wanted to make sure other knew it just wasn't true so far as I could tell..


    As far as the MAGA hat debate.. Here is my opinions on the matter....

    I believe that we are spending too much time focusing on "speculation" as to what was going through the mind of that one young man. And assuming we know what he was thinking...(Remember, the reporters who originally reported the story, did so from THEIR point of view as well, that doesn't necessarily mean it's from the PROPER perspective.. Hence the disagreements.... ) And as such, debating that.. It can be reduced to one of two things, either he was inappropriate or not. And regardless of THAT outcome, we have the ability to change it in NO WAY WHATSOEVER...So essentially pondering it, serves no useful purpose.

    UNLESS you are a reporter, a journalist, etc.. Then a debate about how it was presented would serve a valuable purpose...

    The media efforts to "Divide and conquer", distract and otherwise mislead the population to focus on things that make no real effect overall is WORKING in this way.. We have people spending a great deal of time debating a child's intention in a video that we cannot go back and change in any way. In my eyes, I see it as a distraction from REAL issues.. And as such won't participate in the debate..

    I wouldn't give such a video that much of my effort. It cannot be changed, if this boy feels privileged over that native gentleman, there is nothing I will be able to say or do to change his opinions. Perhaps some more energy trying to help people come together for a change, would be a better use of my energy. I do not KNOW this boy so I couldn't try to alter his views in any way so I focus my energy on those I can ...

    Again, this is just the way I see things.. You're more than welcome to debate such things... Enjoy the thread.. I will go find one that better suits my interests..
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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    As you likely know by now, some of us disagree with the view you present, through your particular choice of complimentary or pejorative adjectives.
    I disagree with this dude so much I put him on ignore.

    I find his language and views so disrespectful they put me on the offensive, and then I would find myself getting a vacation for reacting in a manner that I felt was totally even when considering the post I was responding to.

    I find the ignore option to be the best choice for me when dealing with folks practicing extreme left politics, because what I consider a normal response to these folks has been considered by the mods here vacation and ban worthy.

    As such I reached the conclusion that if I wanted to stick around these parts I had best start ignoring these folks, and the best method for doing this seems to be just using the ignore feature so I don't even see their posts.

    Apparently ignorance is bliss when dealing with the left on this forum.

    Oh, and just for sh!ts and giggles here is Dr. John Coleman's explanation of how the elite will destroy the United States, he wrote this back in 1993.



    I hate watching older videos. Probably because most of the time I feel as if anything older than a couple of years can't in any way tell me something I don't already know, this is silly I admit but it goes through my head and probably quite a few others. I was thinking this when I began watching this video and I'm glad I stayed the course and watched the whole video. This video is from 93 and is a presentation based on Coleman's 1992 book.


    Dr. John Coleman is what I had always hoped Jordan Maxwell would be. Jordan making too many personal interpretations out of too little data in my opinion. Coleman by contrast is an astute scholar who spent his life researching in the oldest libraries of the world. Coleman is not vague, Coleman names actual families and tells you their direct relationship to the groups controlling the world. The information seems so prophetic.




    Dr. John Coleman states that the "committee of 300" are a group of super rich individuals whose family made their money by being the share holders of the "East India Trading Company" back in the 1700's. This company made incredible amounts of money by dumping opium on China.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqx1YgIBMw

    The information below is from Coleman's 1992 book "BEYOND THE CONSPIRACY, THE COMMITTEE of 300".




    21 Goals of the Illuminati and The Committee of 300
    By Dr. John Coleman.(Written ca. 1993)
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/johnc...nati.shtml#top
    21 Goals of the Illuminati and The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman (ca. 1993)

    F rom: Conspirators' Hierachy: The Story of The Committee of 300
    1. To establish a One World Government/New World Order with a unified church and monetary system under their direction. The One World Government began to set up its church in the 1920:s and 30:s, for they realized the need for a religious belief inherent in mankind must have an outlet and, therefore, set up a "church" body to channel that belief in the direction they desired.
    2. To bring about the utter destruction of all national identity and national pride, which was a primary consideration if the concept of a One World Government was to work.
    3. To engineer and bring about the destruction of religion, and more especially, the Christian Religion, with the one exception, their own creation, as mentioned above.
    4. To establish the ability to control of each and every person through means of mind control and what Zbignew Brzezinski called techonotronics, which would create human-like robots and a system of terror which would make Felix Dzerzinhski's Red Terror look like children at play.
    5. To bring about the end to all industrialization and to end the production of nuclear generated electric power in what they call "the post-industrial zero-growth society". Excepted are the computer- and service industries. US industries that remain will be exported to countries such as Mexico where abundant slave labor is available. As we saw in 1993, this has become a fact through the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement, known as NAFTA. Unemployables in the US, in the wake of industrial destruction, will either become opium-heroin and/or cocaine addicts, or become statistics in the elimination of the "excess population" process we know of today as Global 2000.
    6. To encourage, and eventually legalize the use of drugs and make pornography an "art-form", which will be widely accepted and, eventually, become quite commonplace.
    7. To bring about depopulation of large cities according to the trial run carried out by the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia. It is interesting to note that Pol Pot's genocidal plans were drawn up in the US by one of the Club of Rome's research foundations, and overseen by Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official. It is also interesting that the committee is currently seeking to reinstate the Pol Pot butchers in Cambodia.
    8. To suppress all scientific development except for those deemed beneficial by the Illuminati. Especially targeted is nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Particularly hated are the fusion experiments currently being scorned and ridiculed by the Illuminati and its jackals of the press. Development of the fusion torch would blow the Illuminati's conception of "limited natural resources" right out of the window. A fusion torch, properly used, could create unlimited and as yet untapped natural resources, even from the most ordinary substances. Fusion torch uses are legion, and would benefit mankind in a manner which, as yet, is not even remotely comprehended by the public.
    9. To cause. by means of A) limited wars in the advanced countries, B) by means of starvation and diseases in the Third World countries, the death of three billion people by the year 2050, people they call "useless eaters". The Committee of 300 (Illuminati) commissioned Cyrus Vance to write a paper on this subject of how to bring about such genocide. The paper was produced under the title "Global 2000 Report" and was accepted and approved for action by former President James Earl Carter, and Edwin Muskie, then Secretary of States, for and on behalf of the US Government. Under the terms of the Global 2000 Report, the population of the US is to be reduced by 100 million by the year of 2050.
    10. To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment. As jobs dwindle due to the post industrial zero growth policies introduced by the Club of Rome, the report envisages demoralized and discouraged workers resorting to alcohol and drugs. The youth of the land will be encouraged by means of rock music and drugs to rebel against the status quo, thus undermining and eventually destroying the family unit. In this regard, the Committee commissioned Tavistock Institute to prepare a blueprint as to how this could be achieved. Tavistock directed Stanford Research to undertake the work under the direction of Professor Willis Harmon. This work later became known as the "Aquarian Conspiracy".
    11. To keep people everywhere from deciding their own destinies by means of one created crisis after another and then "managing" such crises. This will confuse and demoralize the population to the extent where faced with too many choices, apathy on a massive scale will result. In the case of the US, an agency for Crisis Management is already in place. It is called the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), whose existence I first enclosed in 1980.
    12. To introduce new cults and continue to boost those already functioning which include rock music gangsters such as the Rolling Stones (a gangster group much favored by European Black Nobility), and all of the Tavistock-created rock groups which began with the Beatles.
    13. To continue to build up the cult of Christian Fundamentalism begun by the British East India Company's servant Darby, which will be misused to strengthen the Zionist State of Israel by identifying with the Jews through the myth of "God's chosen people", and by donating very substantial amounts of money to what they mistakenly believe is a religious cause in the furtherance of Christianity.
    14. To press for the spread of religious cults such as the Moslem Brotherhood, Moslem Fundamentalism, the Sikhs, and to carry out mind control experiments of the Jim Jones and "Son of Sam" type. It is worth noting that the late Khomeini was a creation of British Military Intelligence Div. 6, MI6. This detailed work spelled out the step-by-step process which the US Government implemented to put Khomeini in power.
    15. To export "religious liberation" ideas around the world so as to undermine all existing religions, but more especially the Christian religion. This began with the "Jesuit Liberation Theology", that brought an end to the Somoza Family rule in Nicaragua, and which today is destroying El Salvador, now 25 years into a "civil war". Costa Rica and Honduras are also embroiled in revolutionary activities, instigated by the Jesuits. One very active entity engaged in the so-called liberation theology, is the Communist-oriented Mary Knoll Mission. This accounts for the extensive media attention to the murder of four of Mary Knoll's so-called nuns in El Salvador a few years ago. The four nuns were Communist subversive agents and their activities were widely documented by the Government of El Salvador. The US press and the new media refused to give any space or coverage to the mass of documentation possessed by the Salvadorian Government, which proved what the Mary Knoll Mission nuns were doing in the country. Mary Knoll is in service in many countries, and placed a leading role in bringing Communism to Rhodesia, Moçambique, Angola and South Africa.
    16. To cause a total collapse of the world's economies and engender total political chaos.
    17. To take control of all foreign and domestic policies of the US.
    18. To give the fullest support to supranational institutions such as the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank of International Settlements, the World Court and, as far as possible, make local institutions less effective, by gradually phasing them out or bringing them under the mantle of the UN.
    19. To penetrate and subvert all governments, and work from within them to destroy the sovereign integrity of the nations represented by them.
    20. To organize a world-wide terrorist apparatus [Al-queda, ISIS, ISIL, etc.] and to negotiate with terrorists whenever terrorist activities take place. It will be recalled that it was Bettino Craxi, who persuaded the Italian and US Governments to negotiate with the Red Brigades kidnapers of Prime Minister Moro and General Dozier. As an aside, Dozier was placed under strict orders not to talk what happened to him. Should he ever break that silence, he will no doubt be made "a horrible example of", in the manner in which Henry Kissinger dealt with Aldo Moro, Ali Bhutto and General Zia ul Haq.
    21. To take control of education in America with the intent and purpose of utterly and completely destroying it. By 1993, the full force effect of this policy is becoming apparent, and will be even more destructive as primary and secondary schools begin to teach "Outcome Based Education" (OBE).




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    https://www.rt.com/usa/452810-wapo-o...ngton-lawsuit/

    RT reporting on the recent retraction published by WaPo in reference to the false reporting in the Covington kids' case. I am sure a retraction will simply cause Fellow Aspirant to double down on his position, again.

    FWIW, when I look at that grinning kid, I see a teen who is scared sh!tless. If you think a MAGA hat is a hate symbol on par with the burning cross or a swastika, then it's no surprise that his nervous smile would turn into a sneer in your mind's eye....

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
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    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
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    It's NOT about hating the MAGA hats. It's about calling out the young man wearing it for his provocative behaviour. It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    It's odd to me that even after the MSM narrative on this fell apart, and defamation lawsuits have already been launched, with retractions being made left and right, you still somehow think that standing still and smiling is "provocative behavior" that makes the lying professional victim artist a real victim.

    As usual, feelings count more than facts.

    Dear "Voice ... "

    I’d like to explain what I find wrong with the media coverage of the “standoff”. It’s not that the media were wrong in what they showed. Where they erred was in not showing any of the original confrontations between the Covington students and the group of black protesters who had been hurling abuse at the white students only a few minutes before the video started. Maybe they could have found video on someone’s cel phone regarding this disturbing verbal assault, and showed it along with the video footage that they based their story on. But they did not, for whatever reason. If they had, the media would have supplied some inkling of the thinking of the Covington students i.e. that they had been insulted and intimidated by a hostile group. As such, I think that their disrespectful and provocative reactions to the native elders would have been given an understandable context, and could be seen for what it was: disdainful payback to an inferior group that would not fight back. The man banging the drum was an easy target for their intimidation, and by confronting him they could salvage some of their pride.

    As for the claim that the drummer had approached the group of boys and was standing in front of, that part may have been true, if the direction of the boys’ path had been on the other side of Phillips, the drummer. But that does not appear to be the case.

    What is evident, however, is that the celebrated (at least by the Covington crowd) boy who is seen having a showdown with the native drummer is there by choice. He was not suddenly surprised by the approach of the drummer, nor was his path blocked, except directly to his front, where the drummer was standing. Sandmann took up the position in front of the drummer, after having walked some distance through the crowd in order to face the man. There are wide spaces to his left and right, and, initially at least, two to three body widths of space behind him. He had plenty of wide open options for movement. If anything, it was he who was blocking the path of the Phillips.

    Here’s a link to the “entire” video, as later posted:

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    In it, it’s easy to see that Sandmann first appears 9 seconds in, standing far back from the front, on the steps. In order to get in front of Phillips, he would have had to walk 5 or 6 steps through the crowd. As the video begins, the crowd is already mocking the native presence with pseudo chants, crying out, and performing the insulting “tomahawk chop”. The kids are clearly trying to intimidate the native protesters; during a pan across them, one of the students has his head shoved from behind by one of his classmates, in an effort to force contact between the boy and the drummer. During a pan back to the left, at 25 seconds, Sandmann is still visible on the steps in his original spot. The panning continues back to the right, and when it pans left again, Sandmann can now be seen in his chosen spot, at the 41 second mark. This is a full 15 seconds and 5 paces from his original location in the video. The drummer, on the other hand, has stopped moving forward, and has been rooted to the spot when Sandmann approaches him.

    Sandmann’s maneuvering into place in front of the drummer was calculated to be in the best place possible for demonstrating to his buddies that he was a “big man”. As for demonstrating his feelings to the native protesters, it was his rarely broken smirk that told the tale.

    So, to sum up, the media erred in not telling the whole tale. What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker. The media commentary that ensued may have been excessive, but that will be very hard to prove in a court of law. All one has to do is watch the video.

    Namaste,

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    Why don't you provide the videos of the disturbing behavior of these boys? I suppose you were next to being a saint when you were that age?

    Namaste,
    Pam
    It's pretty clear to me that you have not read or understood what I have written. Why would I post disturbing video of the boys? I just did.

    At issue is the behaviour of Sandmann. I am objecting to the interpretation of his facial expression as being a benign smile when it was actually a smirk. The problem with the smirk is outlined here:

    Here's an interview, done by Anna North, with an expert in education, especially of the form enjoyed by privileged rich children, in which he explains what he finds wrong with the behaviour of the Covington students:

    "The smirking silence with which Sandmann confronted elder Nathan Phillips was actually incredibly telling, according to Adam Howard, an education professor at Colby College and the author of "Learning Privilege: Lessons of Power and Identity in Affluent Schooling". Sandmann’s expression clearly “communicates that I’m better than you, that I don’t even have enough respect for you to even say anything to communicate,” Howard told me.

    The student’s behavior was the embodiment of privilege, Howard said, and nothing that came after the initial viral video changes that.

    I reached out to Howard, who previously wrote for Vox about the culture of elite private schools, to ask how that culture might help us understand the March for Life video and its aftermath. In a phone interview, which has been condensed and edited, he said that the video and the reactions to it expose not just the problem of privilege in America but our inability as a society to reckon with that problem.

    Anna North

    What did you see when you saw the March for Life video for the first time?

    Adam Howard

    When you saw the young man’s face looking at the elder, and just the smirk, and then having a whole group around him of his fellow classmates, all boys, doing the various things they were doing — chanting, doing tomahawk things, racist behaviors — this is what privilege looks like. This is what he has learned not only from his schooling but also from other sources of education, which include family and the larger national context.

    What he’s learned is this contempt toward others, this kind of privileged white male gaze that communicates, “I’m better than you, I don’t even have enough respect for you to even say anything to communicate, but I will communicate everything I need to through my body language.” That overconfidence, and that sense of entitlement, all of it was being performed in that moment.

    As I was reading the articles, the ways in which people were trying to make sense of that initially, none of the conversation really focused on privilege and that these were a group of privileged boys from a privileged institution.

    Anna North

    What was your reaction when you saw additional videos released after the initial viral video, and the conversation around those subsequent videos?
    Adam Howard

    Even in the other videos, [Sandmann] was still looking stone-faced, smirking. That privileged white male gaze that every minority is very familiar with — when that gaze is upon you as a minority, you know what it communicates, and it communicates that “you’re inferior to me, I have a particular kind of perception of myself that places me above you.” That performance was also being reinforced by all his classmates kind of cheering him on.

    Silence plays an incredibly important part in that performance, because as soon as the boy says something, then we can confront him, we can dissect it, we can challenge it, and so part of it was that he wasn’t even giving anything over to be challenged in any way.
    We don’t know what he was exactly thinking at that moment, because he didn’t communicate anything verbally. That’s how privilege works — it’s constantly performed and embodied in particular ways where it’s hard to challenge it.

    Anna North

    It sounds like you’re saying we can see privilege at play in this video regardless of Sandmann’s statement or the longer video that was released later. Is that right?

    Adam Howard

    Yes. And therefore, it would be useful for us to begin to ask the questions of, how do young people learn those lessons that allow them to be okay with showing such contempt toward others who are different from themselves? Do they learn that through their education? Do they learn that through their religion? Do they learn that through their family? [Do they learn that through] the national context, and what’s going on in our country and what’s going on in the larger world?
    I would argue that all of those things are teaching them incredibly important lessons, and we need to be more mindful and intentional about the kinds of lessons we want to teach young people.

    Anna North

    Earlier in our conversation, you mentioned that the video reminded you of something that happened at your institution. Can you talk about that incident?

    Adam Howard

    Several years ago, we had this incident on campus, and it sent shock waves throughout our small, elite liberal arts college. It involved members of a male sports team. Shortly after this incident, I was asked, along with another faculty colleague, to lead and facilitate this community conversation.

    Several hundred people attended, and it was a three-hour event, and it was emotionally charged — people crying, and raised voices every once in a while. It was very obvious that a lot of people were affected by this in pretty profound ways.
    What was interesting is that the first two rows of this gathering space were all teammates of the guys who were involved in this incident, and they sat there and didn’t say a word for the entire three-hour period. They had that smirk on their faces, their arms crossed, and even though they didn’t say anything, their contempt for what was going on, everything they were communicating without saying a word — it completely overshadowed everything that we were trying to do.
    We were trying to heal our community, and we weren’t fully able to. It was so destructive; it was so disruptive. Anytime you challenge privilege, there’s going to be attempts to disrupt those efforts.

    Anna North

    How should the fact that Covington Catholic is an all-boys’ school factor into our understanding of this incident?

    Adam Howard

    When I research all-boys’ schools, the headmasters and others will claim that it allows students to express themselves freely, and that they’re more involved in the arts and in creative endeavors and that they’re not negatively impacted by having girls present and the peer pressure that goes along with that. I think that’s a bunch of crap.

    I think it instead reinforces very toxic ways of thinking about what it means to be a boy and what it means to be a man. The fact that you don’t have women there often limits the opportunities for you to develop healthy, productive relationships across gender.

    Often you have this kind of mob mentality that forms, because elite schools, part of what they do is teach their students to always prove that they’re the best. So what ends up happening is that it’s always a contest of who’s the best man. A lot of that is connected to sexual conquest, proving certain things that just aren’t very healthy ways of thinking about what it means to be a man.

    Anna North

    What can we learn as a society from this whole incident — the first video, but also the longer video and the reactions to all of it?

    Adam Howard

    What’s problematic from this larger incident, if you take [it] from the moment this goes viral to now, is that we easily dismiss things that need to be discussed. People are trying to find holes in the original narrative, and as soon as they find those holes, then that gives us permission to not discuss what we need to be discussing.

    Part of that is, what are privileged, white, young men learning about themselves, not just through their education and their family but through what’s going on at the national level? How they are making sense of themselves, others, and the world around them, and then how are they acting on that? Those are the types of conversations that we need to be [having], and I don’t know how we get there. It requires us to actually be willing to get past, “This narrative is flawed, therefore there’s nothing to be discussed here,” to, “What can we learn from this?”

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    I still see only a howling horde of kids, Tomahawk-chopping and roaring with laughter at a Native American, one smirking young man in the center. I see the same display of unearned, unexamined, vaguely menacing privilege that I did on Saturday.

    In the days since the incident on the National Mall, the revelation which is supposed to have changed everything is that Nathan Phillips approached the group of kids, and not the other way around. Who approached whom is only relevant if one 64-year-old man with a single drum is more menacing than a gang of teenage boys. The kids are still cackling at an elder, still mocking him with war whoops. The behavior, in its most generous interpretation, is dishonorable.

    The smirk of privilege, framed by MAGA hats and mocking laughter, is all that’s there, despite what the kid in the picture—via the public relations firm his family had the means to retain—says. It is unmistakable, which is why the image was shared as widely as it was. It would not have gone viral if it didn’t resonate, if we hadn’t seen this particular strain of American smirk as long as we’ve had photography.


    We’ve seen it on the faces of the white people intimidating black patrons at the Woolworth’s lunch counter, in the pictures of freshly-integrated high schools in Little Rock. We’ve seen it in our own personal histories, if we have ever been that terrifying combination of young and different in any way. We saw that smirk with our eyes, but we felt it in our stomachs.

    So, really what do you expect of a teenager? He is with his friends and someone is in his face beating a frigging drum. Someone else is recording it. He's a kid, he has to save face for his peers. I would have done the same thing at his age. I would want to look like the whole thing didn't bother me..I find it kind of pathetic that adults now have to turn on kids with their virtue signalling, PC bunk "The smirk of white privilege", you have got to be kidding me
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    Hey, time out! Fellow Aspirant, could you provide a link to the video that supports your point of view? I found after watching all of the videos, the one that seems to have hoodwinked me was the one edited to make it appear that the kid WAS smirking, when he may have been putting on a brave face or been slightly embarrassed.

    When I watched the longer videos that provided more context, my opinion changed.

    imho, those who wear MAGA hats may as well be advertising the fact that they support a mobbed up neo-con whitehouse. But..they obviously don't see it that way.

    So maybe we should just agree to disagree on this one, with respect. You are one of my favorite members here. I really value your opinion 99% of the time!

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    Six weeks after the original event, the Washington Post issues a correction to its original reporting of this Covington event: WaPo issues correction to Covington kids story – 6 weeks & 1 lawsuit later:

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    WaPo issues correction to Covington kids story – 6 weeks & 1 lawsuit later

    by Reuters / Madalyn McGarvey, Published time: 2 Mar, 2019 00:43

    The Washington Post has corrected its erroneous coverage of the confrontation between the boys from Covington Catholic and the activist Nathan Phillips at the Lincoln Memorial, two months after publishing the misleading story.

    Admitting that "subsequent reporting, a student's statement and additional video" either contradicted or didn't support the initial story, the belated editors' note acknowledges the Covington boys did not taunt, provoke, or stand in the way of Phillips. It also removed a tweet quoting Phillips' claim that they did exactly that, in which the paper falsely refers to the Native American protester as a Vietnam veteran.
    The Post has issued an Editor's Note about updates to its initial coverage of the Jan. 18 incident at the Lincoln Memorial: https://t.co/rhzKZ1715K

    We've also deleted this Jan. 19 tweet in light of later developments. For more, see the Editor's Note. pic.twitter.com/O7qCSnBMPO
    — The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) March 1, 2019
    The Post's correction follows a $250 million defamation lawsuit filed by Nick Sandmann, the 16-year-old protagonist of the viral video that inspired the original story. Like most other mainstream media outlets, the Post framed Sandmann and his classmates as instigators and Phillips as a victim, focusing on the boys' "white privilege" and apparent political affiliation without attempting to fact-check the content of the video or contact the people involved.

    Sandmann, his classmates, and their families were doxxed and received death threats as the story spread across social media.

    After the full-length video of the confrontation was widely circulated, exonerating Sandmann and his classmates, a few of the celebrities and media figures who had demanded the boys' heads on Twitter apologized. Most didn't, and Sandmann's lawyer Lin Wood said the lawsuit against the Post is "only the beginning," reportedly sending warning letters to the New York Times, CNN, the Guardian, NPR, and such boldface names as Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Elizabeth Warren and Joy Reid, advising them not to destroy any "evidence" relating to the case.

    The Post's apparent discomfort pleased many on Twitter.
    I could live off the nourishment this tweet provides.
    — Jessica Fletcher (@heckyessica) March 1, 2019

    At this point yall should just hire @MichaelAvenatti; he will only lose you 200k and his dignity
    — Rex Wilkinson (@TheChinchilla) March 1, 2019

    That $250 million lawsuit from Nick Sandmann is scaring the s**t out of the Washington Post https://t.co/XQGKhklFae
    — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) March 1, 2019

    Though some thought it wasn't enough.
    It would have been a lot easier to say, "We made a mistake. We ran with a story without knowing all of the facts. We're sorry." We get it. You're human. You wanted a scoop. All this double speak just makes you look like you don't want to own up to it.
    — MartyinDE (@MartyinDE) March 1, 2019

    Except it wasn’t a mistake. They threw away even the smallest journalist standards because they hated a child’s politics. They should be run out of business.
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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    As you likely know by now, some of us disagree with the view you present, through your particular choice of complimentary or pejorative adjectives.
    I disagree with this dude so much I put him on ignore.
    If I wasn't supposed to moderating this forum, I might well do the same (ignore).

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