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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Trump paved the way for the plandemic in 2019 -- he was in on it:

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...public-health/

    That Executive Order may have, in hindsight, paved the way but I don't think for a minute that Trump was in on the Fake Pandemic and all that has come with it... he was heavily into creating jobs and boosting the economy mainly and I think that EO was probably put on his desk by someone who was in on it - (September 19 2019 - just before the whole 'thing' broke and a MAJOR strategic move was made by the Globalists / Deep State) Trump got (reluctantly?) embroiled in the whole pandemic / vaccine debacle - and it has cost him in terms of reputation and support in some quarters... but I think the bulk of his followers understand that he's not perfect and is doing his best under the circumstances...
    Thanks for this jaybee.
    Trump is far and away the best president in the last hundred years or so.
    The plandemic sucks but it was coming anyway and using it to dethrone Trump altered their timeline and that in and of itself may have been a boon even if that's tough to see now.

    Besides, hanging out with Trump fans means you are in good company.
    Try hanging out with Trump haters.
    Yeah go on try it, they are efn nut jobs.

    You wanna live through what's coming?
    You want ten Trump fans by your side or some green haired pronoun occupied triggered safe spacers?

    Think about it.
    Trump people are good people.

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    Under Trump, US LAWS ALL SECRETLY CHANGED TO ENABLE MASS GENOCIDE

    “President Trump’s September 19th executive order coalesced all these federal agencies and gave them the power – whatever people think of him – that’s what that executive order did…this is a worldwide RICO-like operation.”

    US LAWS ALL SECRETLY CHANGED TO ENABLE MASS GENOCIDE
    June 19, 2022
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/us-...mass-genocide/

    "Since early 2020, we’ve all been tearing our hair out, wondering how the PSYOP and information operation known as the COVID-19 Pandemic and vaccine rollout has been pulled-off on a global scale.

    A picture is emerging of a government-run domestic bioterrorism program of chemical and biological weapons, funded by taxpayers, authorized by Congress and US presidents and administered through the Department of Health and human Services, the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control, the National Institutes of Health, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice.

    Now, Dr Jane Ruby says, “I believe we finally know how all of these horrific things are happening without any oversight and without any government body officials stopping the death and destruction from these bioweapon shots.”

    Dr Jane is talking about the work of legal analyst and super sleuth, Katherine Watt who discovered the slow kill of American laws and the US Constitution that is legalizing tyranny, genetic damage, and the takeover of America under the guise of public health.

    Watt started looking at the legal architecture that supported the COVID pandemic hoax and how it fit with the highly-coordinated pandemic story told by governments, worldwide and how it relates to the World Health Organization’s International Health Regulations of 2005.

    Dr Jane says, “And what she found is, in my opinion, stunning. She said, and I quote, ‘A whole lot of things that once were federal and state crimes and civil rights violations have been legalized by Congress, through legislative statutory revisions to the United States Code, they were signed by multiple US presidents and implemented at the administrative, regulatory level by the Department of Health and Human Services. This was all done through the Code of Federal Regulations.’

    “Essentially, what I believe she’s saying is, our government, slowly and deceptively changed our laws to enable the various federal agencies to commit domestic bioterrorism here, in the US and crimes on humanity, worldwide.”

    The stealth, incremental dismantling of the protections of our rights throughout the 20th century is something about which I and others have been commenting for years.

    For example, the passage in 2013 of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act repealed the propaganda ban in the original 1948 Smith-Mundt Act, and enabled the relentless Fake News sabotage of the Trump presidency and the media juggernaut of the COVID hoax and vaxxine rollout.

    Biotech analyst and former Pfizer employee, Karen Kingston has pointed out how informed consent was waived in Section 3024 of President Obama’s 2016 21st Century Cures Act.

    Watt has gone way further in her Substack post, American Domestic Bioterrorism Program: Building the case to prosecute members of Congress, presidents, HHS secretaries and federal judges for treason under 18 USC 2381:

    Most of the worst laws have been passed since 2000 — just before 9/11 and the US Department of Defense false flag anthrax attacks.

    They are listed below, with links to the full text of each law, and a short summary of what I understand about how each one fits into the overall scheme.

    The basic goal of the architects, which has been achieved, was to set up legal conditions in which all governing power in the United States could be automatically transferred from the citizens and the three Constitutional branches into the two hands of the Health and Human Services Secretary, effective at the moment the HHS Secretary himself declared a public health emergency, legally transforming free citizens into enslaved subjects.

    That happened on Jan. 31, 2020, in effect as of Jan. 27, 2020 through the present day.

    In other words: Congress and US Presidents legalized and funded the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. government and the American people, through a massive domestic bioterrorism program relabeled as a public health program, conducted by the HHS Secretary on behalf of the World Health Organization and its financial backers.

    Watt continues in a separate post:

    FDA is not pulling the EUA products from the market or stopping the ‘vaccination’ campaign because Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra and FDA Commissioner Robert Califf are running the US government’s bioterrorism program jointly with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Department of Justice Attorney General Merrick Garland, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorkas, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel, and World Health Organization Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

    Dr Jane notes, “President Trump’s September 19th executive order coalesced all these federal agencies and gave them the power – whatever people think of him – that’s what that executive order did…this is a worldwide RICO-like operation.”

    The remedies for this horrific situation include repealing each and every law Watt cites among those systematically enacted in her blog to deprive us of our God-given rights and sovereignty.

    Tore Maras has suggested retroactively impeaching Obama, to delete all of his legislation, including the “Affordable” Care Act and all of its bio surveillance language.

    Watts has even discussed a temporary secession of states, in order for them to shield themselves from the tyranny of these genocidal, treasonous Globalist laws."

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    Quote U.S. Laws All Secretly Changed To Enable Mass Genocide

    On today’s Dr. Jane Ruby Show, Dr. Jane talks to legal analyst and super sleuth, Katherine Watt who discovered the slow kill of American laws and the U.S. Constitution and how it is legalizing tyranny, genetic damage, and takeover of America under the guise of public health and Team Enigma’s Sasha Latypova returns with more startling findings from Judicial Watch’s FOIA on Moderna, revealing how the DOD is using Fauci’s created company to execute an American Domestic Bioterrorism Program. Don’t miss the 3rd segment where Dr. Jane shows you how a new term, “Medical Countermeasures” was created to shield all criminals from accountability. It’s not just in your imagination!
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    The Emperor has no clothes. When will the MAGA crowd see that the GOP in general and Trump in particular do not have your best interests at heart? Watch the hearings, their own words on video, in phone calls and texts messages show the truth.

    Roe Vs Wade was overturned today because 5 out of 9 Justices on the court, who were put there by GOP administrations, lied at their hearings claiming that roe v wade was a precedent that could not or would not be overturned.

    Abortions are healthcare. There are many reasons for an abortion and I support all of those reasons, but even if you don't, remember that, the treatment for an ectopic pregnancy, a septic uterus, or a miscarriage that your body won’t release is abortion. If you can’t get those abortions, you die. You. Die.

    Justice Thomas came out today and said they are looking at banning contraception. If you think that is unlikely, may I remind you that starting in 2016 when people said the left was overreacting to the GOP overturning Roe v Wade by stacking the court and here we are.
    Griswold - Contraception
    Lawrence - Same-sex relationships
    Obergefell - Marriage equality
    These past decisions are being opened up again.

    Is this the future you want? The progress of the past 50 years is evaporating.

    It does not end at abortion. Republicans will not stop until they have stripped away every freedom they can’t load with bullets.

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    Here's that video re Roe vs Wade

    Quote Posted by Bruno (here)

    The Emperor has no clothes. When will the MAGA crowd see that the GOP in general and Trump in particular do not have your best interests at heart? Watch the hearings, their own words on video, in phone calls and texts messages show the truth.

    Roe Vs Wade was overturned today because 5 out of 9 Justices on the court, who were put there by GOP administrations, lied at their hearings claiming that roe v wade was a precedent that could not or would not be overturned.

    Abortions are healthcare. There are many reasons for an abortion and I support all of those reasons, but even if you don't, remember that, the treatment for an ectopic pregnancy, a septic uterus, or a miscarriage that your body won’t release is abortion. If you can’t get those abortions, you die. You. Die.

    Justice Thomas came out today and said they are looking at banning contraception. If you think that is unlikely, may I remind you that starting in 2016 when people said the left was overreacting to the GOP overturning Roe v Wade by stacking the court and here we are.
    Griswold - Contraception
    Lawrence - Same-sex relationships
    Obergefell - Marriage equality
    These past decisions are being opened up again.

    Is this the future you want? The progress of the past 50 years is evaporating.

    It does not end at abortion. Republicans will not stop until they have stripped away every freedom they can’t load with bullets.
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    Did Trump Nearly Pardon Julian Assange?
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    "Julian Assange is in a legal battle against extradition to the US where he could face a 175 year prison sentence. His wife and former Lawyer, Stella Assange chats to Russell about his situation and to highlight the human chain demonstration on Saturday, October 8th."

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    Did Trump Nearly Pardon Julian Assange?
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    "Julian Assange is in a legal battle against extradition to the US where he could face a 175 year prison sentence. His wife and former Lawyer, Stella Assange chats to Russell about his situation and to highlight the human chain demonstration on Saturday, October 8th."

    A lot of people hold this against Trump.
    But,,,
    Assange isn't being held in the US.
    Brittany is a stronger held globalist center than the USA in my opinion.
    People assume trump could have arranged for Assange to be released but I'm off the opinion this was far from a slam dunk.

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    Trump reveals why he didn’t pardon Snowden or Assange
    22 Dec, 2021
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    https://www.rt.com/usa/544005-donald...owden-pardons/

    (It seems it was a political decision on Trump's part. He probably would not have succeeded in getting Assange pardoned, but he might have helped had he chosen to.)

    "Former President Donald Trump has said he was “very close to going the other way” on issuing a pardon for Julian Assange or Edward Snowden before he left the White House, ultimately deciding not to grant clemency to either.


    During an interview with the Daily Wire’s Candace Owens this week, Trump was asked why he failed to issue pardons to WikiLeaks co-founder Assange and National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower Snowden, which activists had been pushing for in the president’s final months in office.



    Why is the EU backing Navalny, but ignoring Assange?READ MORE: Why is the EU backing Navalny, but ignoring Assange?
    “You have two sides of it,” Trump said. He described their separate situations as, respectively, a “sort of a spy deal going on” and “somebody that’s exposing real corruption,” but without indicating which description applied to which person, concluding only that he felt “a little bit more strongly about one than the other.”

    Media reports earlier this year indicated Trump had been convinced by aides that an Assange or a Snowden pardon would upset Senate Republicans, who were gearing up to vote in his impeachment trial at the time. He also appeared to negatively reference Assange and “spying” at one point, though he did not elaborate.

    “There [were] some spying things, and there [were] some bad things released that really set us back and really hurt us with what they did,” he said, according to the Daily Wire. It was alleged during the opening stages of Assange’s extradition hearing in London last year that the journalist had been offered a pardon in exchange for spinning the origin of hacked Democratic emails sent during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    The White House denied the claim and said the president “barely” knew the Republican congressman through which the deal had allegedly been offered. The congressman, in turn, said he had made the proposal on his own initiative and the White House had not endorsed it.

    Trump said he had ultimately decided to let the issue be handled in the courtroom. “I guess the courts are actually doing that,” he said.

    Assange is currently being held in a UK prison, from where it was recently ruled he can be extradited to the US to stand trial on espionage charges for having published documents related to alleged US war crimes during the Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns. He faces up to 175 years in prison if convicted. His mental and physical health has deteriorated during his 20 months of incarceration, and he recently suffered a stroke.

    Snowden, who has remained a fugitive from the US since whistleblowing on the NSA for unconstitutional spying on the American public in 2013, seemed a more likely candidate for a presidential pardon. The former president said last year he was “looking” at Snowden’s case, noting that many felt he had “not been treated fairly.” This about-face surprised many commentators, given that Trump had previously referred to the former NSA contractor as a “spy who should be executed.”
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    Trump reveals why he didn’t pardon Snowden or Assange
    I love how no one cares to look into the depth of this situation....

    Why are these two whistleblowers both ENTIRELY against a single agency? (snowden= anti nsa, Assange= anti cia) why isn't it obvious that these were intel agencies fighting each other? (especially given the timing) WTF... how dumb have we gotten that we cannot recognize simple patterns?


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    Trump reveals why he didn’t pardon Snowden or Assange
    I love how no one cares to look into the depth of this situation....

    Why are these two whistleblowers both ENTIRELY against a single agency? (snowden= anti nsa, Assange= anti cia) why isn't it obvious that these were intel agencies fighting each other? (especially given the timing) WTF... how dumb have we gotten that we cannot recognize simple patterns?


    lazy thinking is addictive, do not fall for it.
    Maybe because those were their lines of work, their specialties? You don’t hear many whistleblowers testifying outside of their professional niche.

    I have not (and don’t intend to) digested the “timing”, and I don’t get what is “obvious” to you. I have no doubt that the top agencies fight amongst themselves, but do you think that these guys were either willing sacrifices on behalf of opposite powers or that they were dupes/pawns?

    The OP’s (People say) quote has no here button, so please what #post was that?

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    Maybe because those were their lines of work, their specialties? You don’t hear many whistleblowers testifying outside of their professional niche.
    I really feel like your super proving my point right now, since Snowden worked for the CIA first, then for the NSA........ and assange's releases (anti CIA) were VASTLY before.... Also, there is a rumor that I might spend a lot of time in buildings owned by one of those collection of letters.

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    I have not (and don’t intend to) digested the “timing”, and I don’t get what is “obvious” to you. I have no doubt that the top agencies fight amongst themselves, but do you think that these guys were either willing sacrifices on behalf of opposite powers or that they were dupes/pawns?
    I mean, it's only obvious because I'm so frequently involved in it....

    and do I think people can be "flipped" can be leveraged into doing things that seem insane? well yeah, I've been apart of situations like that for over 20 years.

    humint doesn't make sense, but if you know anything about phycological profiling it starts to be stupid obvious (now imagine that paired with a tracking device that you willing carry and sleep next to... our job was so easy).
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    Ha! If I had anything to hide, I might be starting to feel a little studied here. Is the NSA tight with the NRO, and is the CIA tight with CSIS? Asking for a friend. ~8O

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    Maybe because those were their lines of work, their specialties? You don’t hear many whistleblowers testifying outside of their professional niche.
    I really feel like your super proving my point right now, since Snowden worked for the CIA first, then for the NSA........ and assange's releases (anti CIA) were VASTLY before.... Also, there is a rumor that I might spend a lot of time in buildings owned by one of those collection of letters.

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    I have not (and don’t intend to) digested the “timing”, and I don’t get what is “obvious” to you. I have no doubt that the top agencies fight amongst themselves, but do you think that these guys were either willing sacrifices on behalf of opposite powers or that they were dupes/pawns?
    I mean, it's only obvious because I'm so frequently involved in it....

    and do I think people can be "flipped" can be leveraged into doing things that seem insane? well yeah, I've been apart of situations like that for over 20 years.

    humint doesn't make sense, but if you know anything about phycological profiling it starts to be stupid obvious (now imagine that paired with a tracking device that you willing carry and sleep next to... our job was so easy).

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    Ha! If I had anything to hide, I might be starting to feel a little studied here. Is the NSA tight with the NRO, and is the CIA tight with CSIS? Asking for a friend. ~8O
    well, I've brushed fire close enough already tonight, so I'll just say "huh"?

    But I'll offer one thing (which I have done many times here)... when assets are limited, targets are; quantified... (aka, some **** is just not worth it; aka.... us )
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    Dr. Joseph Farrell has been researching the corruption in the FBI & CIA for some time here: https://gizadeathstar.com/
    ...and on Dark Journalist's shows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...ark+journalist
    Also see the thread starting here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1463172

    No lazy thinking there...

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    Trump reveals why he didn’t pardon Snowden or Assange
    I love how no one cares to look into the depth of this situation....

    Why are these two whistleblowers both ENTIRELY against a single agency? (snowden= anti nsa, Assange= anti cia) why isn't it obvious that these were intel agencies fighting each other? (especially given the timing) WTF... how dumb have we gotten that we cannot recognize simple patterns?


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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Dr. Joseph Farrell has been researching the corruption in the FBI & CIA for some time here: https://gizadeathstar.com/
    ...and on Dark Journalist's shows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...ark+journalist
    Also see the thread starting here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1463172

    No lazy thinking there...
    it is not ubiquitous, I agree. I do not know how I can add more than I have. we live in the eddies of (often) self proclaimed powers.
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    Trump reveals why he didn’t pardon Snowden or Assange
    I love how no one cares to look into the depth of this situation....

    Why are these two whistleblowers both ENTIRELY against a single agency? (snowden= anti nsa, Assange= anti cia) why isn't it obvious that these were intel agencies fighting each other? (especially given the timing) WTF... how dumb have we gotten that we cannot recognize simple patterns?


    lazy thinking is addictive, do not fall for it.
    If you follow the Q movement, its clearly laid out. Snowden is CIA and was trying to infiltrate and sabotage the NSA.

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    Trump reveals why he didn’t pardon Snowden or Assange
    I love how no one cares to look into the depth of this situation....

    Why are these two whistleblowers both ENTIRELY against a single agency? (snowden= anti nsa, Assange= anti cia) why isn't it obvious that these were intel agencies fighting each other? (especially given the timing) WTF... how dumb have we gotten that we cannot recognize simple patterns?


    lazy thinking is addictive, do not fall for it.
    If you follow the Q movement, its clearly laid out. Snowden is CIA and was trying to infiltrate and sabotage the NSA.
    Snowden = anti NSA

    assange = anti CIA....

    IMO the timing make's it an obvious intelligence war
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
    Where are you?

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    I agree Target. When one digs enough, the theory is backed up well. What Q Group clarified, is that the CIA is the Cabal's machine, the NSA not so much. Q group is a branch with the highest level clearance from what I could find (its a real group). The US Military has been revamped and seems to be working with the NSA vs the CIA and the Cabal. Allies surprisingly are emerging worldwide. Anons one time asked Trump to repeat the phrase tip top or tippy top to prove he was listening. He did just that, I saw it. What else is interesting, is he said that again standing next to Scott Morrison, while complimenting him during the US-Australian alliance dinner. Scott Morrison's wife was also given an infinity bracelet, which was strange I thought.

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    Trump caught in his own web of contradictions. The man who "tells it like it is" gets entangled in his own double speak. Is he pro-choice or pro-life? This subject may be his Achillies heel in his upcoming election campaign.


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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Perhaps you think it normal for a man to say such things. I'm a man and have never heard any other man say such a thing. I'm retired Air Force, and I can attest that I have heard many misogynist things said about women, but never, "I just grab them by the privates parts.
    Well, I am also a man; I played football, wrestled and joined the military strait out of highschool; to this day I know people that talk in that "mannor", I just don't hang out with those people.

    Phones are passed around with pictures of females and the question is posed "smash or pass" and these are (as far as I can tell) loving fathers and dedicated husbands.


    I think that is a completely seperate topic however, and a complex one (how sex and sexuality is treated in western society, or even how different it is from region to region, California vs South Carolina for example).


    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    See partial transcript below:

    Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

    Bush: Whatever you want.

    Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.


    Just because Trump says such things doesn't mean consent is given to such treatment, especially a woman who doesn't have a relationship with him.
    And if you simply work with the facts available, that does not sound like sexual assault to me.

    But I don't pick up and run with every rumor I hear, or at least try my best not to.


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    "This one point is a great example of why you don't understand how he got elected, and I don't understand how you don't understand "


    Seems to me that you are the confused one, or such a Trumpist that you can overlook such criminal behavior in order to justify your ongoing support.

    Do a little research...it's all there for us to see.

    I agree that's a disturbing list; but not at all what I was referring to. Your taking a historical contextual look with a lot of unsubstantiated testimony (and as of yet, not a single conviction?) which you are taking for granted as "true"; I will not do that.

    If you come to my island you can find rumors that I "rescue horses, starve them so I can get good "before" and "after" photos, and then fatten them back up to say I rescued them.

    I've been accused more times than I can count that I steal horses.

    Being a SUPER MINOR public figure has garnished me AND my family a small list like the above (no sexual harassment stuff, but a **** LOAD of people attempting character assassination due to what ever motivation). And that's not a position most people will ever be in during their life spans.

    Do you know what it's like to constantly run into people that know you, know your life, know your wife, your kids, your pets.. and you have no clue who they are? What happens when that obsession slips to the dark side?

    I can't imagine what true "celebrityhood" is like after my small taste of it... it's got to be pretty ****ty.

    Sexual harassment is a problem and it does happen a lot, so are false rape claims and false sexual harassment claims; I've seen a good amount of both, enough that I need some sort of evidence.
    Target,

    Quick question for you? Now that Trump was found liable for sexual abuse in the Jean Carroll case, or do you still need more evidence 🤔

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    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Perhaps you think it normal for a man to say such things. I'm a man and have never heard any other man say such a thing. I'm retired Air Force, and I can attest that I have heard many misogynist things said about women, but never, "I just grab them by the privates parts.
    Well, I am also a man; I played football, wrestled and joined the military strait out of highschool; to this day I know people that talk in that "mannor", I just don't hang out with those people.

    Phones are passed around with pictures of females and the question is posed "smash or pass" and these are (as far as I can tell) loving fathers and dedicated husbands.


    I think that is a completely seperate topic however, and a complex one (how sex and sexuality is treated in western society, or even how different it is from region to region, California vs South Carolina for example).


    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    See partial transcript below:

    Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

    Bush: Whatever you want.

    Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.


    Just because Trump says such things doesn't mean consent is given to such treatment, especially a woman who doesn't have a relationship with him.
    And if you simply work with the facts available, that does not sound like sexual assault to me.

    But I don't pick up and run with every rumor I hear, or at least try my best not to.


    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)

    "This one point is a great example of why you don't understand how he got elected, and I don't understand how you don't understand "


    Seems to me that you are the confused one, or such a Trumpist that you can overlook such criminal behavior in order to justify your ongoing support.

    Do a little research...it's all there for us to see.

    I agree that's a disturbing list; but not at all what I was referring to. Your taking a historical contextual look with a lot of unsubstantiated testimony (and as of yet, not a single conviction?) which you are taking for granted as "true"; I will not do that.

    If you come to my island you can find rumors that I "rescue horses, starve them so I can get good "before" and "after" photos, and then fatten them back up to say I rescued them.

    I've been accused more times than I can count that I steal horses.

    Being a SUPER MINOR public figure has garnished me AND my family a small list like the above (no sexual harassment stuff, but a **** LOAD of people attempting character assassination due to what ever motivation). And that's not a position most people will ever be in during their life spans.

    Do you know what it's like to constantly run into people that know you, know your life, know your wife, your kids, your pets.. and you have no clue who they are? What happens when that obsession slips to the dark side?

    I can't imagine what true "celebrityhood" is like after my small taste of it... it's got to be pretty ****ty.

    Sexual harassment is a problem and it does happen a lot, so are false rape claims and false sexual harassment claims; I've seen a good amount of both, enough that I need some sort of evidence.
    Target,

    Quick question for you? Now that Trump was found liable for sexual abuse in the Jean Carroll case, or do you still need more evidence 🤔
    Such naivity.
    With Epstien and his travel log,
    Mkultra whistle blowers telling us about child trafficking and the elite, wikileaks confirming pedophile satanic elite practice, Anthony Weiners laptop with the actual pictures of Hillary performing said actions, hunter Bidens lap top and now Joe Biden himself so addicted to his weirdo pedo behavior that he can't stop inappropriately grabbing at and sniffing children.
    If he'll do that in front of cameras????

    Reality is indeed ugly.
    But you go ahead and trouble yourself over some locker room hypothetical banter from 30 years ago.

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