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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

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    1. Looking at my post and what you posted here I see that you omitted something... "according to a sheriff's news release". With the "news release" being a link to the article in question. The fact that you left this off in your reply to me I find curious. Was that intentional? Now I'm questioning your character and integrity as a moderator. Having your integrity questioned is not a good thing, huh?

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    Then you should have quoted the portion of the article relevant to your comment from the OP, not quoting my reply to onawah. Etc...

    I asked you for a clarification of your post, that's all that was needed. Instead, you are now exhibiting trolling characteristics.
    You did not address why you omitted the link in your response to me. That link is what I was referring to. How about some clarification there?

    Perhaps I should of quoted the portion of the article, but I didn't. I have no problem with you seeking clarification, I agree the post was ambiguous to a degree, but to ask the question as you did, I found insulting. Primarily because of the subject matter. I have told you this and explained why, three times now and you have yet to apologize for the misunderstanding.

    You accuse me of trolling? I feel that the way you asked for clarification, seemed like trolling to me.

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Easy now. This forum is not about escalation. Your posts have all included escalation and push-back. This is probably not the sort of thing to be doing here.....
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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    This is good news, surely, but I don't see how it can be regarded as being a really significant development with regard to fighting child exploitation.

    First, the important number is the one about how many children were rescued: 28.

    This "Operation" occurs on an annual schedule, and this was the third time for it. So, presumably, the authorities have been working on this for a full year.

    Second, this involved over 30 different agencies that dragged their nets over the whole of California, a state occupied by 38.8 million people (about the same as live in the whole of Canada). To have had this many agencies at work for so long, amongst so many humans, and to have rescued a grand total of 28 kids ... ? Hardly, to me, a number to crow about - certainly no justification for bally-hooing the collapse, world wide, of the curse of child porn rings. I might be encouraged if 28 kids had been rescued in Hollywood, but the whole of California? Come on. This reminds me of the observation about how : "the mountain laboured - and brought forth a mouse".

    It's a good start, but hardly exemplary. They'll have to do far better than this for me to see any hope for change.

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Easy now. This forum is not about escalation. Your posts have all included escalation and push-back. This is probably not the sort of thing to be doing here.....
    I have followed Project Camelot for years as a lurker and became a member here at Avalon a couple years ago, but perhaps this is not the place for me. When a moderator asks me to clarify if I meant it was loathsome and revolting that children and others were freed from a sex trafficking ring.

    I will quote him here:

    "What exactly is loathsome and revolting: that "30 federal, state and local law enforcement agencies and task forces, including the Los Angeles Regional Human Trafficking Task Force, participated in the third annual "Operation Reclaim and Rebuild" enforcement operation..." conducted the investigations leading to 474 arrests and the rescue and release of dozens of slaves? "

    Why didn't he say or add, "or do you mean that you find the child trafficking loathsome and revolting?" to his question?

    If he doesn't know what is exactly loathsome and revolting, about that situation, it says a lot about him, doesn't it?

    I would not call his reply trolling. I would characterize it as a passive aggressive attack.

    I will always speak up when I feel that my integrity and morals and are questioned.

    If that is not allowed here, then I will gladly move on.

    Thank you for your advice in this matter.

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Keeping in mind, as PurpleLama pointed out, that:

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    .... A significant portion of our members, and our readership, speak English as a second, third, fourth language.
    The following is making my very point as applied to that post # 6 and its author:
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    Like I said, I understand the challenges in text only communication but in cases when ambiguity causes misunderstanding where one's moral and ethic values are concerned he really needs to be more careful
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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Quote Posted by abmqa (here)
    Perhaps I should of quoted the portion of the article, but I didn't. I have no problem with you seeking clarification, I agree the post was ambiguous to a degree.
    Hi abmqa, Misquoting is not a huge problem as it happens sometimes, but one may be asked to clarify a comment if it is not clear, For furure reference quoting a portion of the quote you are replying to helps everyone understand what exactly you are replying to and saves any confusion.

    Please do not feel insulted and i assure you there is no need to question Herve's integrity. Clarity was all that was asked for. Which you have provided. Thank you. We can all move on now.

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    I just thought I would check these stories out on google.news to see how widespread coverage of this story is. It is only reported in 4 sources:
    New York Daily News, Los Angeles Times, KTRK-TV and Crime Voice.

    One would expect about 200 news sources reporting this, but it seems those who syndicate the news don't seem to want this story told even though pedophilia and sex slave stories are widely read.

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    If you want a clue as to why the MSM isn't covering this, look at the New York Times as one example. The head of the NYT, Mark Thompson, was the same guy who was in charge of the BBC when the Jimmy Savile scandal broke. To avoid investigation for his role in covering that up, Thompson moved to the US and took over the New York Times.

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Well it looks like the "start" may be about to crank up a gear (sub-links at the original OPs):

    Over 70 PizzaGate Pedophile Arrests Coming Says FBI Insider
    Friday, February 3, 2017 15:40

    https://youtu.be/lYCE9iAznk0

    Intel Report by Stew Webb and Tom Heneghan

    https://youtu.be/pj-Ixp3TAik

    Next week should be very interesting. The person claiming to be an FBI insider says we might see high profile suicides over the next few days. We don’t have long to wait to see if this is accurate.

    (this is the information being posted on 4chan by a source claiming to be an FBI/DOJ Insider)

    Dropping a small piece of information, take it however you may. I will not provide any picture’s for proof as I don’t feel like clearing metadata. I likely will not reply back to any questions, unless they are questions I do not mind answering.

    Information was finally submitted from the FBI to the DOJ today at 3pm. Mr. Sessions was briefed 3 weeks ago as to the investigation in its entirety. Once assumes his position, arrest warrants will be signed, and arrests will be made. This is also why the Democratic Party in DC has been fighting the Sessions vote.

    Panic.

    Furthermore, starting Monday or Tuesday of next week, you will begin to start seeing arrests of individuals. Over 30 politicians (many are household names), and over 40 other individuals throughout DC, VA and also a handful in NYC. Some may off their selves before they are apprehended, so keep a eye out for that over the weekend, and you will know they are involved in some manner.

    The child pedophilia ring / sex trafficking arrests California was not related, at least no evidence yet to suggest that it was. May be wrong as people begin to talk, or make deals on the matter.

    Source: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/110768785

    Also Reference:


    http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1873-...e-now-imminent
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    Also reported here;

    Bix Weir reports - Child Pedophilia Arrests Begin…The Big Names Will Follow

    http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite...k-2452643.html

    My rant last year about Pizzagate and the DC Pedophilia Ring turned a lot of people away from the Road to Roota saying that I was just a “Conspiracy Theorist.” But my belief was not based on a political ideology or a hatred of the Democratic Party operatives. It was about saving the innocent children that were are being held captive…at all costs.

    Once again, the mainstream media managed to push the news into the pedophilia realm of “Conspiracy Theory” by inventing the term “Fake News” and the social media outlets like Facebook, Youtube and Twitter starting limiting the visibility and discussion of Pizzagate. Even banning people from talking about Pizzagate or Pedophilia on their platform.

    How could they do that when the stakes were so high for these children?

    Heads should roll when the truth comes out.

    Luckily there were honest and brave law enforcement officers that would not cover it up any more and pushed forward with the investigations behind the scenes.

    We are starting to see the first results of their investigations as the lower level “facilitators” are starting to be arrested…

    L.A. Police Arrest 474 in Pedophile Ring


    https://youtu.be/pXDXB07dRpo

    Men in Pennsylvania Pedophile Ring Arrested

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-arrested.html

    This is just the beginning and the arrests will now start to FLOW UP STREAM.

    Starting with the charges against the husband of Hillary Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin, who just happened to hold the 650,000 Clinton emails…

    Federal Prosecutors Weigh Child Porn Charges on Anthony Weiner


    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...412359113.html

    All the James Comey election controversy was for a reason. They have all the proof they need. Most people don’t know this but FBI Director James Comey was also in charge of the sealed Grand Jury case against Bill Clinton’s pardons of the Chief Global Commodity Rigger, Mark Rich, and his flunky Pincus Green who helped Clinton implement/rig the “Strong Dollar Policy” which was mainly the rigging of the gold and silver prices when Bill Clinton was in office.

    Oh what a tangled web we weave!

    John and Tony Podesta and Comet Pizza owner Jamie Alefantis (aka “J’amie les Enfants” or “I Love Babies” in french) will likely be the next criminal pedophiles to go down. Watch for their “disappearance” from the DC scene of the crime before the word of their arrest gets out.

    Most likely they will end up on the Ken Lay Island for Elite Criminals that have suspicious heart attacks right before they go to jail!

    After the Podesta’s and Alefantis will come 1/3 of the US Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, so get ready for some rough waters in the Good Ole USA!

    Who said this Transition was going to be easy? Before this is shake-up is done the Federal Government will be returned to it’s rightful size, TINY, and we will return to State power controlling the United States of America.

    I guess that takes the California secession movement off the table because it looks like our Federal Government is going to do it for them!

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    I just thought I would check these stories out on google.news to see how widespread coverage of this story is. It is only reported in 4 sources:
    New York Daily News, Los Angeles Times, KTRK-TV and Crime Voice.

    One would expect about 200 news sources reporting this, but it seems those who syndicate the news don't seem to want this story told even though pedophilia and sex slave stories are widely read.
    Try searching "474 California" - there are a lot, (or perhaps there are a lot now? ).

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    Default Re: 474 Arrested in California Child Trafficking Ring

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    I just thought I would check these stories out on google.news to see how widespread coverage of this story is. It is only reported in 4 sources:
    New York Daily News, Los Angeles Times, KTRK-TV and Crime Voice.

    One would expect about 200 news sources reporting this, but it seems those who syndicate the news don't seem to want this story told even though pedophilia and sex slave stories are widely read.
    Try searching "474 California" - there are a lot, (or perhaps there are a lot now? ).
    It was on the official news here in Canada, a snippet, but still on it.
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    Ted Gunderson would have been proud (and digging for more).
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    Yes, if only Sacramento County would follow L.A. 's example too. Unfortunately, the problem people are so-called pillars of the community, police officers, doctors, and wealthy guys here.

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Where was that announcement made? Can you provide a link? Thanks. Now if only DC law enforcement would follow LA's example!
    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)

    This comes just after it was also announced that Anthony Weiner may also be facing serious criminal charges soon. Which will inevitably drag in Huma Abedin and Hillary Clinton, since he had classified state department emails on his laptop. Huma is a Saudi spy and Hillary committed treason by selling the Saudis access through her, to all of the State Department's inner workings. That alone is a charge punishable by death, let alone everything else on Weiner's laptop and what it means.

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    SUICIDED: (new feature video) as it relates to Human trafficking


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