Weaponising the Weather

[Rocky_Shorz]

you'd think after 60 plus years of weather modification experience, they could have at least arranged some snow for Putin's Olympics...

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by blufire (here)
We cannot put on the blame in the ‘polluting piggies’ because each and everyone of us are the polluters

A whole different subject, yes we have been sucked into the vortex but our society is set up to use fossil fuels from before you and I were born. There is no easy (or even moderately difficult) way for consumers to exist en masse in this society and not consume the fossil fuels. We're not innocent victims, but we are victims. There is also the matter of scale, and "they" do more damage in an hour than society does in a year. But this is off-topic. Let's save it for another topic.

Posted by blufire (here)
I have never said that our polluted air (and water) is not an ongoing problem that we have had for many years. I am saying, however, that we have to STOP terrorizing people that the very air they breathe is laden with nano particles and chemicals that are keeping them from (fictitious) transcendence into some ethereal existence. We have to STOP this ongoing brainwashing of people into believing they are victims of stifling slavery with no hope of any kind of peaceful cohabitation.

And you know what??? The alternative community is doing this . . . . NOT ‘them’ . . . .I see thread after thread after thread popping up with this absurd meme that we are slaves of reptile/archon controlled super elite. Fear mongering (like killer chemtrail snow that doesn’t melt) and even though these implanted fear memes are often debunked it still STICKS in peoples minds. I have watched this particular meme build over the past year . . . . here on Avalon and other alternative websites and forums . . . it is not ‘them’ that is implanting these absurd notions and information . . . . it is US!

That's why I said the water should simply be analyzed (for the snow.)

Here's what you are ignoring: NO scientists and NO government agency are coming forward to explain what they decided to do (without asking OR informing us.) And, done in complete secrecy, using (what appears to be COINTEL-PRO type) disinformation campaigns to try to pretend that what we are seeing are really "persistent contrails" - but we are supposed to just laugh that off and not form guesses as to what the hell they are realy doing. Especially considering the link between Alzheimer's and aluminum. Especially considering the link between Monsanto patented seeds to withstand aluminum (that is toxic, in quantity, in all plants.)

You really think it is fair to dismiss everyone's conjecture as being tinfoil hatted kooks, when there is official SECRECY surrounding the existence of chemtrail spraying? Oh, and are you aware of the US government/military spraying radioactive isotopes and cadmium over people? Well, some of the people guessing that chemtrails could be nefarious are certainly aware that the US government/military are happy to use unsuspecting populations as Guinea pigs.
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Posted by blufire (here)
Who do you think the people are that created “What on Earth are They Spraying”? These people have a meme to spread . . . these people have an agenda . . . these people force data to reinforce what they what to say and create.

I really don't know what to say to this. So, YOUR scientists (hidden and secret) are truthful, and the scientists interviewed for that movie are liars. Wow.

Posted by blufire (here)
I will stand by my statement that there are no massive amount of nano laden (robot thingies) ...

Not sure why you're addressing this to me. I never said these tiny particles are robotic. I have seen an article where someone claimed it to be so, but the vast, vast majority of posts I have seen on this forum are not focused on nano-robots. It adds some drama to your argument, but is irrelevant. I didn't say we are breathing nano-bots, (microscopic robots), I said we are breathing aluminum and barium.

Posted by blufire (here)
...I am sick and angry and frustrated of being fed lies and misinformation from ALL damn sources. Including the alternative media and New Age religion.

What I have found from samples from my Kansas farm and the samples here in no way supports what we are being told. Are there pollutants? Yes! Is there (sometimes) barium and aluminum present? Yes!

But keep in mind that barium and aluminum are also NATURALLY occurring metals. ...

I don't believe in the "new age" memes you are blending into a response to me.

Yes, aluminum is a naturally occurring element. However, naturally occurring aluminum is in the form of compounds, not elemental aluminum (and - I believe - is not typically found in nature as simple aluminum oxide either.) The naturally occurring aluminum is in more complex compounds, and those compounds require a great amount of energy to extract the elemental aluminum. Elemental aluminum is not blowing around ANYWHERE ON EARTH, not even downwind of a bauxite mine. Any elemental aluminum and (I believe) pure aluminum oxide found in the atmosphere is refined by humans and deliberately put into the atmosphere in chemtrails.

So, you are wrong in your assertion: "barium and aluminum are also NATURALLY occurring metals. " because they do not naturally occur in a refined, purified state as have been collected by soil scientists. That is UNnatural aluminum.

If you are not finding massive amounts of aluminum in the top 1/4" of soil you are collecting, then I have to wonder about your collecting technique. Credentialed scientists who study soil samples and analyze them for a living have stated - on the record - that aluminum is as high as 6000 times higher than background (scientific control.) You cannot gloss over that - unless you are declaring that they are liars, and/or that your technique for sampling particulate fallout is more accurate than scientists who do this for a living. You can say you agree with geoengineering and that you trust the (hidden) scientists that have made the decision to spray metals in the air, but you cannot say the (refined/unnatural) metals are not there.

Posted by blufire (here)
I have never found little nano (robot thingies) or anything that resembled ‘man made’ microscopic organisms/particles.

The "robot thingies" is a strawman argument. "Nano" means "billionth" and "nano particle" is shorthand for tiny particles. (I'm not sure all chemtrail sprayed particles are really sub-micron, I doubt it.) Please don't inject "robot thingies" into a reply to me. I'm not talking about robots, I'm talking about tiny sprayed particles (barium and aluminum, specifically) that are refined metals of micron or sub-micron size, deliberately sprayed from chemtrailing jets.

Posted by blufire (here)
But I am fairly confident that our scientist across our planet and researchers will find a way to effectively and safely control our weather.

Well, that's lovely for you. Know that many people do not have this blind faith in a group of secret, hidden, (presumed) scientists who are presumably working on weather modification for presumably non-military purposes. How is your blind faith different than a "new age" person's blind faith?

Posted by blufire (here)
So, I am not saying and never have said they are not geoengineering . . . I AM saying they are geoengineering for a very different reason other than ‘they’ are killing us and enslaving us and performing mass blood rituals or some other satanic/reptilian blood right rituals . . .
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Geoengineering is taking place in order for us TO survive ...

Geoengineering is taking place (rapidly now) in order for humanity not to be knocked back into another stone age or ice age.
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Breathe the damn air . . it is not killing us . ...

When you show me a nano-particulate that you have pulled/sampled out of the air the very air you are breathing then I will be right there with you.

Regarding the rest of your post I will end in saying I have never said anything about benevolent aliens or elite. I have never said that what they are doing to bring about the NWO or whatever it will be called, is benevolent or evil. This notion has been put on me by you (Dennis) and many others.

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I have been burned and deeply disillusioned by past memes on Avalon and the alternative/ new age world, as well as, the ‘rat race’ or world created by ‘them’.

This new meme (last year or so) on Avalon and other alternative sources, I feel strongly is more destructive and will have even farther reaching negative impacts for many years to come than some of the others. I think this new meme is a foundation being built for what I am waiting and watching . . . this too will come to light.

One thing that I can always rely on and therefore trust is there will be a broad spread of dualistic polarized thinking and believing and behaving . . such as . . alternative/new age (supposedly good guys) and elite controllers (supposedly bad guys) . . .and the real truth is somewhere in the balanced in-between.

Good guys. Bad Guys. Benevolent. Evil. . . . not going there . . not yet . . . I can wait and watch ...

I'm getting weary of going point by point, and having others ideas blended with what I wrote (which ends up being a strawman argument for me - because I didn't bring it up.)

So, you're comfortable with some hidden, unnamed, (supposed) scientists somewhere behind closed doors making a determination to spray metals in the air? (And yes, there is an ENORMOUS amount.) I'm not. Actually, how do we know there are ANY geoengineering scientists behind the spraying? What if they are scientists, but physicists rather than biologists, for example? Don't you think physicists might fix one problem and create ten more (as they did with nuclear energy.) For example, maybe the physicists could figure out a way to reflect back some of the sunlight, but they were total idiots when it came to understanding the biological needs of plankton? Why are you so trusting that they know what they are doing? You think Gaia's systems are all figured out by scientists? Any scientists? Any humans? Really? I don't. Only an arrogant idiot "scientist" would believe they could meddle with weather by spraying metals and/or heating sections of the ionosphere without negative consequences. And only someone terribly naive could trust them - even IF their motives were 100% altruistic. So, you don't believe in "new age" memes, but you go hook, line, and sinker for "chemtrail" spraying, assuming that it is not only altruistic geoengineering, but also assuming that these hidden scientists understand Earth's/Gaia's processes and systems. You believe. Not based on logic, because the programs are officially secret - you and I DO NOT have the data to form an intelligent conclusion - the scientists have never laid out their case, nor explained how this is is not creating more problems than whatever they are addressing (if indeed it is directed by client scientists and not militaristic use of physics - we do not actually know.) We have no way to ascertain motive or efficacy. So, when you declare you believe in them, I don't think you are in a position to make fun of people that believe other ideas.

Rattlesnakes come out in the sun to warm themselves, and move to the shade to cool down. They are venomous. The venom is toxic and necroses tissue. I have observed perhaps 100 rattlesnakes, have caught and released a couple dozen, and the last creature I ever killed and ate (35 years ago) was a rattlesnake. I have a pretty good idea of what rattlesnakes are, how they act, and what to expect.

I will be 60 years old soon. I have witnessed many things that "The Elite"/"the Global Rulers"/international bankers/multinational corporations and the US government that is under their control, have done. They have shown over and over and over that they are greed-based, power-hungry, sociopathic/psychopathic and will literally do anything up to and including genocide and ecocide to get what they want. I don't trust them, and I would be a complete idiot to trust them. I trust rattlesnakes, but not these people.

My response is logical, not emotional. It is not founded on belief. Your misplaced trust of demonstrably extremely untrustworthy people shows amazing naivete, which appears to be a severe knee-jerk reaction to the most outlandish new-age memes, not a well-reasoned response. Your personal response to yourself is one thing - however, handing out rose-colored glasses is malpractice.

Aluminum is a neurotoxin. It was yesterday, and it will be tomorrow...and probably 1000 generations from now. We're not adapting to this neurotoxin, we're being poisoned by it - whether it is collateral damage from well-meaning hidden "scientists" or whether it always had a nefarious purpose. Our nerves don't care what thought was behind releasing the neurotoxin.

Dennis

[grannyfranny100]

Dennis, bravo and amen!!!

[T Smith]

Posted by blufire (here)

And you know what??? The alternative community is doing this . . . . NOT ‘them’ . . . .I see thread after thread after thread popping up with this absurd meme that we are slaves of reptile/archon controlled super elite.

There isn't really too much to add to Dennis's response to your post (I have to agree almost entirely with his observations), but in regard to this specific statement I believe you may be misinterpreting the so-called slavery "meme" you find popping up over and over on this forum and elsewhere. If we have no choice or say and are subject to the geo-engineering agenda (for good, evil, or indifference) as livestock are subject to the will of the farmer (I thought you might appreciate the analogy) it matters not what the agenda is, be it to enslave or to liberate. The relationship, by definition, describes a form of bondage between master and slave.

I don't necessarily subscribe to the notion that the interests behind geo-engineering are specifically waging a campaign to enslave the masses (although I wouldn't rule it out); I believe this may be the point you are making, but if we have no choice and are subject to their designs on us, whatever the agenda may be, that is a form of slavery.

This isn't fear mongering; this is simply stating the reality of the social structure.

[Kindred]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by bruno dante (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Damien Toner (here)

This is insane, disgusting and sad.

Yes, it is. It's really quite hard to understand.

Either there's real insanity at work here, or real evil, or maybe both. I have to say, for a while now I've had it niggling at the back of my mind that what's afoot may be to offer up the entirety of Planet Earth as some kind of ultimate blood sacrifice.

And that's just it, isn't it? How does one separate the truly ignorant from those who have a deliberate agenda? I suppose in the end it doesn't really matter.

The earth as one big sacrifice? It's an interesting theory, one I haven't heard yet. But if that were the case, wouldn't it be much easier to simply nuke the place? Or flood it? Why bother with all the pageantry of weather manipulation, gmo's, chemtrails etc? Seems a lot of unnecessary work.

Not sure. Thinking out loud here...

I agree with you bruno dante,

I feel statements such as these (ultimate blood sacrifice on a planetary scale) are irresponsible and create deep seated fear and apathy.

This sort of meme makes absolutely no sense to me.

If the planet is being geoengineered to make it more habitable for this evil reptilian race then why all the hoopla? If this is true then wouldn’t they would simply come in kill all us humans in one big massive blood bath and use their more advanced technology to ‘fix the planet’ to their liking and comfort?

Why put up with us measly humans and our paltry inferior technology inhabiting a planet that they want to claim as their own? Seriously if this demented advanced evil alien race existed they would view us the way most view a hill of ants. They would have no qualms eliminating what they would see as a mere nuisance.

As far as any outside entity that desires this world for it's own use, they must get US to Destroy Ourselves. For them to kill us off en-mass outright would Violate Universal Law, and do them far more harm in the long run. They're stupid, but they're not dumb.

That said, I still firmly believe that what we are seeing here is a desire by a small elite group to reduce the overall population level to a 'controllable number' (shades of the Georgia Guide stones, yes?), while still trying to limit the Earth's internal overheating from the increased level of Cosmic Radiation (CR) due to a weakening of both the Sun's and Earth's magnetic fields, as well as the loss of flaring by the Sun.

Normally, the Sun's flaring expands Earth's atmosphere and assists in limiting CR, but without this, the Earth's atmosphere becomes thinner. Under normal conditions, the thinner atmosphere is able to radiate the excess heat created by the increased CR more rapidly, thus naturally cooling the Earth.

Again, a self-correcting system.

However, with this climate engineering, they are limiting the influx (to a degree) of the CR, but this reflection works Both Ways, and thus also reflects the Earth's internally produced infrared radiation. Thus, the surface expels the heat, but it's trapped below the 'aluminum cloud cover', causing extreme pressure differentials which cause the weather, which they then manipulate using the HARRP arrays (as well as the Doppler and Next-Rad arrays), which are stationed all around the northern hemisphere, and are used to control the jet stream and local pressure cells via pulsed beams which can control and direct these pressure differentials. I suspect that "they' hope to keep the Earth around long enough to rule it for a little while longer, perhaps in conjunction with their 'non-local friends'.

If you ask me... it sounds like a 'deal with the Devil', and it may just backfire on them in a Big Way...

By the same token, Humanity, as a People, may be able to 'wake up' and Unify soon enough to break this 'deal'.

I remain optimistic as to the outcome.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Joe Akulis]

According to some "contactees", the so-called reptilian race once waged a war throughout the universe that lasted for millions of years. When this war was being waged, sometimes if they didn't like you, they wouldn't wipe out your planet, they would wipe out your sun. Then yours and every other planet in the system was destroyed. Universal Law was not enough to keep them from doing it. They did it. Supposedly a federation of races and nations/planets in opposition to this race was finally able to negotiate a peace. (If you believe in "outside entities" and their folklore.)

The point is: they had to be resisted. Relying on their respect for the free will of others is probably not a recommended tactic. :-)

[blufire]

Yeah Dennis. . . I'm done and tired of you breaking my posts down point by point too and rewriting and reinterpreting my overall point. . . Not to mention pigeon holing into someone and something I am not.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by blufire (here)

But keep in mind that barium and aluminum are also NATURALLY occurring metals. They both are on the ‘periodic table of elements” . . . .remember your basic chemistry? It is essential we have these metals present in our soil and it is NATURAL that they are present.

An extremely unintelligent comment. It strongly suggests you have NOT watched the video. (Please do this!)

Arsenic and Belladonna also occur naturally. It depends what you do with them, and why.

[Carmody]

Naturally occurring aluminum is there in high levels, yes, but it is atomically bound, it is not 'bio-available'.

Aluminium metal is so chemically reactive that native specimens are rare and limited to extreme reducing environments. Instead, it is found combined in over 270 different minerals.[5] The chief ore of aluminium is bauxite.

When it is refined and purified, it is then bioavailable, and ready to atomically bind. And then, it can ~and does~ harm the human body.

[Brodie75]

Posted by blufire (here)
Going Global and becoming Unified will be a very good thing for our planet and our solar system it is just getting there will be absolutely horrible . . . this will take 25+ years . . . . all religion . . all financial constructs . . . all government and national leaderships and control factions have to be dissolved and eliminated before the One Government can be established . . . and this will create massive chaos.

If we as a group and as individuals can come to grip with this Truth then we as groups and individuals can soften this transition. I am doing this and have been for many years now . . .creating safe harbors and places while we go through these many years(25+) of darkness and difficulty. This is my mission and why I am at this place and at this time.

Going global as you say "could" possibly be a good thing maybe, but the other side of that coin is once the World is under the control of one Gov
what's to stop another Hitler or Bush for that matter, because all being under the control of one Gov who is there to stand in the way?
As for the Chemtrailing thing i do agree in the possibility of it being for our benifet
but with the track record of the current western governments do you really beleive it likely?
I don't personally but as i said it's possible.

[Valle]

Sorry for a a bit off-topic post.
I remember that I saw a TV report about President Bush jogging, and the Journalist asked about his favorite music? He said it was Creedence Clearwater Revival.
And when I read this thread -I remember this song and how is strange it is..- and its about weather and the future.
Bad Moon Rising Lyrics

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4YlTUDnsWMo

[Carmody]

Superconductivity happens on a 2d plane, one might say. Other solar systems observed out there, are not as organized and 'flat', or 2d as thins one here.


Vibrational modes of atomic structure define the atomic structure and how it integrates with other atomic structures. It's mass, gravitation, how it flow through or interacts in the sense of time, etc.

Differential between atomic structures is what defines time, space, gravity, mass, etc. Relative and localized, etc.

Now, in order to effect a strong resonance in a PLANE, in this case a thin disc, one would have to 'spin' things, like the way a monk will spin the mallet around a prayer bowl.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uQWBA8q8JEs

inside of that bowl, think of the surface of the water being the PLANE of the solar system of earth. again, the solar system of EARTH is highly organized, for a solar system, a very decent plane, for the most part. So... very much like that water 'plane' in the singing bowl.

Think of the planets being 'mallets' like that used on the prayer bowl, but all kinds of bowls, in this case rings..floating in multidimensional charged electric resonant and oscillating elastic space.



Now, place this near perfect sphere, called the earth.... in a point of this evolved complex moving/standing wave resonance pattern of excitation of these multidimensional fields...place this earth in a resonance point that is exactly where you want it to be, to obtain the perfect complex resonant excitation. One of those red dot points, for example.



Now, the sphere occupying the red dot point, will be excited by these resonance patterns, this earth will be excited by them and have multidimensional fields passing through it in differing patterns of excitation and integration.

A multidimensional meet point. Where multiple dimensions can and do INTEGRATE with one another. In a almost controlled way, in a pattern that is predictable. This is astrology's origin.

We also get the ley lines, as this constantly changing and roiling multidimensional pattern of energy impacting this high energy resonance zone that the earth is in.. it causes the earth to 'fire up' into all these platonic solid energy patterns. Imagine a skin over the these platonic solids, and that would be the earth under the influence of these multidimensional vibrational fields. The edges are the strong vibrational nodes, which form the ley lines, or vortex lines. Those lines vary in intensity and also have slight changes in location, but are pretty stable. They change in intensity and dimensional crossing 'availability' according to the motion of the planets, how those 'mallets' stuck and move, how those planets excite their complementary modes that are impacting the 'earth'.

Free energy, or over unity is about breaking atomic and thus dimensional and temporal/gravitational bonds. If we vibrate a material differently, we can make it disappear from this dimension, to shift to another, and so on.



The earth is VALUABLE, as it is a crossing point for MULTIPLE dimensions, in a stable 3D plane of dimensional spaces, all laid on top of one another. Multiple time lines, multiple dimensions, multiple times, or across time and dimensions,

A very rare and nearly perfected mutli-axis nexus point, if you will.

Most of this is covered in the lithium thread.

In effect, why the earth?

Well this is why: when in a war, or any other complex integrated multi-cultural, multi-race, multidimensional consideration..especially all of them stacked up on (and literally through) one another......controlling a multi-entrance/exit thoroughfare 'nexus' point can be critical.

The earth.... is a crossroads. In far more ways than most people here currently know how to understand.

One of the reasons they may want to dumb us down, is that this is a 'consensus universe' or a consensus agreement of reality. that our duality, our animal hindbrain bits 'hold' this holographic reality in place, we ANCHOR it in 3d linear unidirectional reality.

That some of us can and do change reality, with our MINDS, in the casting of influence. Spoon bending, levitating monks, and so on. People like Doyle Noyes, etc. As long as we are ignorant and of a duality mind, we can be used as a plodding animal on a treadmill that holds this reality stable.

If we awaken, individually and collectively....things change.

[blufire]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by blufire (here)

But keep in mind that barium and aluminum are also NATURALLY occurring metals. They both are on the ‘periodic table of elements” . . . .remember your basic chemistry? It is essential we have these metals present in our soil and it is NATURAL that they are present.

An extremely unintelligent comment. It strongly suggests you have NOT watched the video. (Please do this!)

Arsenic and Belladonna also occur naturally. It depends what you do with them, and why.

Yes Bill . . . taking that one sentence out of several very long very well thought posts this does appear to be a very unintelligent statement.

Thank you for your continual undermining of my place as a long standing member of Avalon. I am the same person I have always been on Avalon anyone can go back through my posts and threads as well as the old PA forum (blufire77 on that one) I have always marched to the beat of a different drum and seldom fall in line with the overall opinions of most members . . . .why are you now so negative toward me?

I feel strongly that you making comments such as this one . . . .

Either there's real insanity at work here, or real evil, or maybe both. I have to say, for a while now I've had it niggling at the back of my mind that what's afoot may be to offer up the entirety of Planet Earth as some kind of ultimate blood sacrifice

. . . . is very irresponsible and unintelligent. People look up to you Bill as a leader and take your thoughts and opinions to heart. They listen to you Bill as someone who is ultimately informed and knowledgeable of things that happening around us at a increasingly rapid pace. Can you not see that impact this type of comment would have to the thousands come to your forum?

So many times I have wished you would follow up on threads such as this one and give the people that come to your forum some hope and practical suggests to how they can be more proactive as individuals and then perhaps as groups.

But instead you drop threads such as these like bombs and make comments like ‘ultimate blood sacrifices’ At the very least the only hope I have seen you give people is to move out of the U.S. and to Ecuador which I also feel is irresponsible and leaves the mass majority with no hope.

I watched the video up to the point he was speaking of the methane gas pockets and the video stopped and would not upload again. Does he ever speak to what we as a group or as individuals can proactively do . . . or is it just a continuation of the same type of hopeless desperate fear mongering.

Do I believe geoengineering is taking place? But not as some sort of preliminary setting to a massive ritualistic blood sacrifice.

Do I believe geoengineering is and will be used as Warfare? As a tool to bring about a Unified Planet, weather will be (and is) used to manipulate countries into submitting to this ‘new order’. Do I agree that this is a horrible situation and action? Countries and nations will not submit easily to this new unified global government. This is why I am speaking so adamantly about the next 25+ years of darkness as I have remembered from my childhood contact. Even while people as yourself and others are undermining and trying to discredit what I am saying and making me out to be a lunatic . . . .

Do I believe there will be a collapse of civilization? There will be a massive very slow . . . painfully chaotic slow . . . collapse of civilization. But at the same time a new civilization will be implemented.

This new civilization will be global and unified and technologically advanced and preparing for space travel. As Henry Deacon (I believe it was him) said it is imperative that we not be deterred from our space programs.

Will this new global government be peachy keen and rosy? HELL NO! Which is why WE have to be proactive and instrumental in establishing ‘safe zones’ globally. As I said in my thread of my contact as a child, there will be global ‘dead zones where the majority of the population will live (he mentioned these dead zones in the video and even put up a map of them!)

I see these things as clear as a possible Bill. I see them in my head, I see them as pictures playing out over and over when I go deep in side myself (meditate?)

I keep hoping and plugging away with this Message I am being relentlessly pushed to deliver now . . . . I don't want it! I would rather sit up here on my mountain and watch the stars.

So either help me out a bit here and at least try just a little to hear the message . . . it meshes so much with other information that is coming out rapidly now

The difference is I feel the information is being mired up and sidelined and lost by the ongoing memes that keep popping up in the alternative world and new age religion

I feel there is a deadlock we keep reaching over and over that keeps us from proactively moving toward establishing the safe zones and/or giving people a future they can dream and have hope.

This deadlock is not coming from ‘them’ . . . it is coming from us the alternative world and the New Age sect.

[Carmody]

Blufire, you seem to be talking about turtling, retreating, being the good slave or pet and going back into the cage/shell/box when beaten upon.

Many of us are not interested in that scenario as a repeat performance, for the umpteenth time.

We have to move into that new world while the situation can be grasped. Otherwise the controllers remain in place, the monkey on the back, the parasite on the back - remains.

Collapse will come, yes, that is the grease that allows for the inherent stalemate in the duality mind of humans...to be loosened. It will allow for rumination, reflection on values and aims, to see the extremes and directions in potentials...and allow for change.

Seize the day, or leave it to 'controllers'. Your choice. I'm not talking about war, I'm talking about growing into it and growing up - bigger, larger, more capable..

[Joe Akulis]

Brodie, you quoted me quoting blufire. Those were his words.

On that sort of side topic, I'm sure most other planets that might be in a "federation" if you believe in that, have learned of ways to have individuals represent the entire planet to this federation. Their histories are all completely different from ours, so it's not something we can learn how to do from them. We have to forge that path on our own.

To get back on topic though, I wanted to mention that I recently subscribed to GAIAM TV. They made it so that I can get the app on my Samsung smart tv now. It's great.

Regina Meredith is a jewel. She has so many terrific interviews available there. I'm guessing a lot of it is reproduced on youtube, but not sure what and how much. I've been going through her interviews with the guy who made the "<blank> in the world" movies", and they say a "WHO in the world" sequel is in the works. She also did a 1 hour interview with Dane Wigington about a month ago.

Toward the end of the interview with "What in the world" producer, she rattles off a list of things that have been recommended that can help us eliminate the heavy metals from our bodies. I will pull it back up and post the list later today when I get back home.

I know something called "MSM" was mentioned. Anyone know what that stands for?

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Naturally occurring aluminum is there in high levels, yes, but it is atomically bound, it is not 'bio-available'.

Aluminium metal is so chemically reactive that native specimens are rare and limited to extreme reducing environments. Instead, it is found combined in over 270 different minerals.[5] The chief ore of aluminium is bauxite.

When it is refined and purified, it is then bioavailable, and ready to atomically bind. And then, it can ~and does~ harm the human body.

According to Dr. Nikolai A. Kozyrev's research, aluminum is the single element that will slow and 'refract', and block... multidimensional energies. Thus, it is a natural dimensional refractive device, like that of glass lenses and visible light. In this case, the additive aspect of slowing the scalar waves, IIRC, by about 50%.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-he...-dr-na-kozyrev

And it tends to accumulate in the human BRAIN, a multidimensional antenna and locational point for a multidimensional that is connected to a human avatar, the one with the 'brain/antenna'.

That some very low level of natural aluminum may be necessary or normal, but high levels..seems to rot (break down, clog, etc) that antenna from within.

Spraying high levels of aluminum from chemtrails can cause the given sprayed nano aluminum to block any multidimensional waves from working in that area of the earth's sphere/surface/atmosphere, or possibly block dimensional communications or data. But it also can and does -kill humans.

Spraying chemtrails with nano aluminum creates, at the very least, in the given vicinity..a multidimensional fog. In this case, possibly.....the fog of war. A very purposeful harm of humans, or an intentional multidimensional fog that hampers communications, sight lines, etc. Maybe both. Harming humans may be considered collateral damage. Or it may be done to simply stop humans, specifically that of the USA, and the west, from coming into their multidimensional own selves.

[Kindred]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Naturally occurring aluminum is there in high levels, yes, but it is atomically bound, it is not 'bio-available'.

Aluminium metal is so chemically reactive that native specimens are rare and limited to extreme reducing environments. Instead, it is found combined in over 270 different minerals.[5] The chief ore of aluminium is bauxite.

When it is refined and purified, it is then bioavailable, and ready to atomically bind. And then, it can ~and does~ harm the human body.

According to Dr. Nikolai A. Kozyrev's research, aluminum is the single element that will slow and 'refract', and block... multidimensional energies. Thus, it is a natural dimensional refractive device, like that of glass lenses and visible light. In this case, the additive aspect of slowing the scalar waves, IIRC, by about 50%.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-he...-dr-na-kozyrev

And it tends to accumulate in the human BRAIN, a multidimensional antenna and locational point for a multidimensional that is connected to a human avatar, the one with the 'brain/antenna'.

That some very low level of natural aluminum may be necessary or normal, but high levels..seems to rot (break down, clog, etc) that antenna from within.

Spraying high levels of aluminum from chemtrails can cause the given sprayed nano aluminum to block any multidimensional waves from working in that area of the earth's sphere/surface/atmosphere, or possibly block dimensional communications or data. But it also can and does -kill humans.

Spraying chemtrails with nano aluminum creates, at the very least, in the given vicinity..a multidimensional fog. In this case, possibly.....the fog of war. A very purposeful harm of humans, or an intentional multidimensional fog that hampers communications, sight lines, etc. Maybe both. Harming humans may be considered collateral damage. Or it may be done to simply stop humans, specifically that of the USA, and the west, from coming into their multidimensional own selves.

BOTH Excellent analysis in post 102 & 106!

And now we can throw into this mix the electromagnetic 'soup' that we are being irradiated with, 24/7/365.

You know that 'they' Know how to control the mind with frequency... so lets fill our brains with nano aluminum and see what Happens!

All in all, not a good prospect, indeed.

I truly believe that by raising one's Consciousness (frequency) is the Only way to break free of these assaults, aside from ending this poisoning of our air and dimensional reality.

Live in and from the Heart and LOVE... the Highest Frequency... and Love One Another.

We CAN 'make a difference'.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[chocolate]

blufire, I know here everyone loves everyone else(!), we had a good example of that yesterday.
But every once in a while I get out of my balance when I see how someone tries to make me think giving examples and explanations that at a point start to sound really irritating. I will say this with all my respect for you:
I can think quite well on my own without your added effort!

I have one set of eyes, one brain and two hands and those on their own are enough to show me we are all dying.
Don't get me wrong, I am not too keen on living here, but if the point is to stay alive, than we are missing the point.

Thanks, Carmody, for mentioning the aluminum fog. And the rest of your several posts. I really loved them.
All planets are on such crossroads as the Earth is. Given the chance, I am sure soon we will manage to kill them all. By ignorance alone.

I can't believe we are still at this stage of trying to prove it is happening.

[Bill Ryan]

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@ Blufire: this thread is about Geoengineering. It's not about you. You already have a thread about you.

You have a pattern of derailing threads that are trying to bring well-intended and well-grounded awareness to others. Don't do that here. In your comments about barium and aluminium being naturally occurring, you show your hand. Don't play the marginalized victim. The members here are smarter than that.

You sure sound like an apologist for the NWO agenda. I don't like that. I think you have an implanted role to help bring it on by selling the inevitability to anyone who will listen (and here, of course, not many do). So I'll say clearly here what a lot of others are thinking and not stating: it stinks. Please go back to your own thread and talk about yourself there.

[chocolate]

Posted by seeker1972 (here)
[...]
I know something called "MSM" was mentioned. Anyone know what that stands for?

May be this will help:

MSM, which is a metabolite of DMSO, and approved for use in humans, primarily impacts your health by reducing inflammation. It’s widely used as a supplement for arthritic conditions. Like DMSO, MSM also appears to improve cell wall permeability, so it can be used to help deliver other active ingredients. Perhaps most important, MSM helps protect against oxidative damage.

from http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-benefits.aspx

For MMS and Jim Humble- http://jimhumble.org/0-read-this-first and I think there are threads on the forum as well.
I don't know the exact context the "MSM" was mentioned.