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    TRUMP BLOW North Korea threatens to scrap Trump and Kim summit over US military drills (Fake News?)

    North Korea's propaganda agency also claimed that Pyongyang officials have also axed high-level talks with Seoul in response to the war games - dubbed Max Thunder

    Full article at link (more Deep State interference & Fake News? - Also being featured on FOX NEWS & others at the time of this posting)

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/629576...litary-drills/

    Remember - "The News is Fake - the leaks are real"

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    My guess is that:
    • James Corbett is quite correct in observing that recent events involving Iran are part of a major move towards an Asian 21st Century.
    • Q is quite correct in hinting that there is some deep, dirty, nasty business beneath the surface of the Iranian JCPOA that Trump just got out of.
    Corbett (I think) got caught in an either/or cul de sac.

    It's turtles layers all the way down ..
    Joseph P. Farrell provides an analysis that more closely fits my view, in his new article IRAN: OF CONSPIRACIES, CABALS AND COLLUSIONS.

    He speculates that, just as seems to be happening with Korea, the major powers (US, Russia, China, ...) have roughly agreed on where they're going with Iran, and are now in acting out some high drama, that will likely end up there.

    Farrell guesses that the end deal might involve
    • regime change in Iran,
    • closer economic integration of Iran with the Belt Road Initiative, and
    • reduced support from Iran for Shiite militants in the region.
    I would agree at least that, looking at what they're doing, rather than what they're saying, an immediate effect of Trump ramping up economic sanctions against Iran is increasing the incentive for Iran to strengthen its economic ties with China, Russia, and (if the European "leaders" will have it), Europe.

    You can find Farrell's article at IRAN: OF CONSPIRACIES, CABALS AND COLLUSIONS.

    If Trump's Iranian gambit leads to improved financial and economic ties between Iran and other Asian nations, rather than leading to major war in the Middle East (which I have been fearing), then I will gladly admit to having been faked out, once again, by Trump's outrageous means for obtaining reasonable ends.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Trump's outrageous means for obtaining reasonable ends.
    The only reason I'm still coming back to this thread... 4d chess MIGHT be at play in so many cases... or it's just amazing spin.

    Color me cautious.
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    Who is Richard Donoghue?
    Background?

    *********
    Richard Donoghue was named Interim U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York by Jeff Sessions.

    Sessions made it clear that the appointment is all about going after the crime syndicate MS-13. Richard Donoghue" ...has tremendous experience prosecuting MS-13."


    The appointment took effect Friday, January 5 and was for 120 days.

    May 15, 2018
    http://www.brooklyneagle.com/article...stern-district

    In order for Donoghue to eliminate the interim tag, he would have to be nominated by Trump and confirmed by the U.S. Senate.
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    HOPE PORN From Alexandra Bruce, Forbidden Knowledge
    May 13, 2018
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/pro...e-golden-dawn/
    Quote The steady din of disinformation in the post-9/11 era has seen the wholesale replacement of reality with untruth, causing decoherence and cynicism. It’s a vulnerability being exploited by trolls of every stripe, from Flat Earthers to QAnon. An implacable human drive to believe, to make believe and to make others believe gives us Fake News, Internet hoaxes and fact-checking websites that promote state-sponsored propaganda.

    Recently, we’ve been hearing of QAnon, the “Sealed Indictments” of over 18,500+ government criminals and the US base at Guantánamo being outfitted to receive this throng of elite gangsters for processing in military tribunals. Catherine Austin Fitts calls such themes “Hope Porn”. The thinking is that these claims are propagated to pacify the Alternative Media community, i.e., the people most disgruntled by the impunity of the war profiteers and the banksters.

    I have no idea what to make of these claims. Let me be clear that I’m not asking you to believe the information in this video. We’re so hard-wired to believe things or to reject them because they don’t match our beliefs. I’m asking you to resist believing anything for a moment and to make peace with your unknowingness. I’m asking you to suspend both your disbelief AND your belief.

    You may think of Protocols of the Illuminated Suns of the Golden Dawn (all puns intended) authored by C Change as a thought experiment and you may ask yourself, what if the insane Trump foto novela that we are witnessing daily is a stunt to lure members of the coup d’état into their jail cells?

    C Change would call this Protocol 1: Gaslighting the Media: The MSM is being allowed to spin their delusional narrative about Russian Collusion for as long as possible, in order to gradually awaken the masses as to the disparity between this official narrative versus the real reality, while lulling the coup planners into a sense of comfort.

    “Deep State agents will leak information with such brazen abandon that it will lull the Deep State into false security, while perpetuating the false image of a chaotic, disorganized, inefficient, and deeply undermined White House…The world will be united by the New World Order Globalists – but not in the way the Globalists had hoped! The nations of Earth will be united through our shared disgust and unanimous rejection of the Globalist’s pedocracy.”

    C Change paints a sort of wild dream come true for readers of Alternative Media, in which the “pedocracy” is stripped of its power, the central banks are abolished, followed by a debt jubilee and an epic stock market crash, the biggest event in mass consciousness since 9/11. This will trigger the martial law takedown of the corrupt elites. There will be peace in the Middle East and in the Koreas, the Iran deal will be renegotiated favorably and honorably for all concerned and advanced energy technologies will finally be declassified. The National Security threat once posed to the petrodollar by alternative energies has been defused by the lowered costs of existing green technologies and by the inexorable rise of the petroyuan. The release of these suppressed technologies will entail UFO disclosure.

    It goes on. There are elements of hoary New Age themes, reminiscent of NESARA and the Photon Belt. There are disturbing statements extolling mass brainwave entrainment à la Project Bluebeam/Firesign. The author makes comments about organized religion and the legalization of drugs which some will find objectionable but overall, it’s a very interesting thought experiment that challenges you to see things differently and it’s an inspiring bit of hope porn.


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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Trump's outrageous means for obtaining reasonable ends.
    The only reason I'm still coming back to this thread... 4d chess MIGHT be at play in so many cases... or it's just amazing spin.

    Color me cautious.
    Same here!
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    HOPE PORN From Alexandra Bruce, Forbidden Knowledge
    May 13, 2018
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/pro...e-golden-dawn/
    Quote The steady din of disinformation in the post-9/11 era has seen the wholesale replacement of reality with untruth, causing decoherence and cynicism. It’s a vulnerability being exploited by trolls of every stripe, from Flat Earthers to QAnon. An implacable human drive to believe, to make believe and to make others believe gives us Fake News, Internet hoaxes and fact-checking websites that promote state-sponsored propaganda.

    Recently, we’ve been hearing of QAnon, the “Sealed Indictments” of over 18,500+ government criminals and the US base at Guantánamo being outfitted to receive this throng of elite gangsters for processing in military tribunals. Catherine Austin Fitts calls such themes “Hope Porn”. The thinking is that these claims are propagated to pacify the Alternative Media community, i.e., the people most disgruntled by the impunity of the war profiteers and the banksters.

    I have no idea what to make of these claims. Let me be clear that I’m not asking you to believe the information in this video. We’re so hard-wired to believe things or to reject them because they don’t match our beliefs. I’m asking you to resist believing anything for a moment and to make peace with your unknowingness. I’m asking you to suspend both your disbelief AND your belief.

    You may think of Protocols of the Illuminated Suns of the Golden Dawn (all puns intended) authored by C Change as a thought experiment and you may ask yourself, what if the insane Trump foto novela that we are witnessing daily is a stunt to lure members of the coup d’état into their jail cells?

    C Change would call this Protocol 1: Gaslighting the Media: The MSM is being allowed to spin their delusional narrative about Russian Collusion for as long as possible, in order to gradually awaken the masses as to the disparity between this official narrative versus the real reality, while lulling the coup planners into a sense of comfort.

    “Deep State agents will leak information with such brazen abandon that it will lull the Deep State into false security, while perpetuating the false image of a chaotic, disorganized, inefficient, and deeply undermined White House…The world will be united by the New World Order Globalists – but not in the way the Globalists had hoped! The nations of Earth will be united through our shared disgust and unanimous rejection of the Globalist’s pedocracy.”

    C Change paints a sort of wild dream come true for readers of Alternative Media, in which the “pedocracy” is stripped of its power, the central banks are abolished, followed by a debt jubilee and an epic stock market crash, the biggest event in mass consciousness since 9/11. This will trigger the martial law takedown of the corrupt elites. There will be peace in the Middle East and in the Koreas, the Iran deal will be renegotiated favorably and honorably for all concerned and advanced energy technologies will finally be declassified. The National Security threat once posed to the petrodollar by alternative energies has been defused by the lowered costs of existing green technologies and by the inexorable rise of the petroyuan. The release of these suppressed technologies will entail UFO disclosure.

    It goes on. There are elements of hoary New Age themes, reminiscent of NESARA and the Photon Belt. There are disturbing statements extolling mass brainwave entrainment à la Project Bluebeam/Firesign. The author makes comments about organized religion and the legalization of drugs which some will find objectionable but overall, it’s a very interesting thought experiment that challenges you to see things differently and it’s an inspiring bit of hope porn.


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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Trump's outrageous means for obtaining reasonable ends.
    The only reason I'm still coming back to this thread... 4d chess MIGHT be at play in so many cases... or it's just amazing spin.

    Color me cautious.
    Same here!
    Just the description summary of this video alone, raises red flags for me... LOL

    I'm far more interested in doing the research and thinking for myself.

    Although I am intrigued with the use of the phrase to "suspend belief and disbelief" I had just used that phrase in an earlier conversation today. To me that means, open-minded, neutral observation, which naturally precludes the idea of HOPE-porn. (That term doesn't sound dispassionate or neutral, at all.)
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    We Have Gone Full Circle, Deep State Pushes Agenda - X22 Report Episode 1568b



    X22 Report
    Published on May 15, 2018

    Mueller has been colluding with Russian oligarchs should he be pulled from the investigation.

    Trump shuts down NASA global warming program - stops all Govt Funding.

    Hungary closes down George Soros' Company.

    The deep state pushes their agenda, doing everything they can to stop the NK summit - they want war. "NK cancels meeting with SK and says US must stop military drills". (Be on the look out for a false flag or for any reason to stop the meeting between Trump and Kim Jong Un).

    Iraqi people vote away from the US.

    US places sanctions on Iran's banking system.

    Trouble in the Gaza strip, people killed, US looks the other way, Haley pushes deep state agenda.

    Q drops more intel, lays out what is happening confirms Q is real with fire engine pic "Q74". (also discussed by Jordan Sather in previous video - see Cider's post 4420 on the previous page - & here (below) by Praying Medic):
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    Q Anon May 14 - All for a LARP? - Praying Medic
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    Published on May 14, 2018
    Qanon asks why, if "Q" is a LARP, is there so much opposition to "Q's" message?

    Detailed analysis over to Turiya
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    Quote Posted by edina (here)

    Just the description summary of this video alone, raises red flags for me... LOL

    I'm far more interested in doing the research and thinking for myself.


    Although I am intrigued with the use of the phrase to "suspend belief and disbelief" I had just used that phrase in an earlier conversation today. To me that means, open-minded, neutral observation, which naturally precludes the idea of HOPE-porn. (That term doesn't sound dispassionate or neutral, at all.)
    The comments under the video raised RED FLAGS with me, too! LOL

    Quote "...what if the insane Trump foto novela that we are witnessing daily...."
    - hmmmm, sounds neutral,... UNbiased...

    "Color me... skeptical!" (...but I will listen to it... later...)

    As Turiya suggested, some prominent Alternative Media personalities seem to be having a problem letting go of the OLD Paradigm...
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    Trump shuts down NASA global warming project - stops all funding.
    _____________________________________________________

    Trump administration jettisons $10 million NASA program tracking greenhouse gases
    May 14, 2018
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/0...enhouse-gases/

    * CMS -- Carbon Monitoring System
    * A report from the journal 'Science' called the shut down the latest move on a broad attack on climate science.
    __________________
    The Political Agenda behind the man-made Global Warming Movement
    http://ielts-yasi.englishlab.net/political_agenda.htm

    * UN-IPPC -- United Nations intergovernmental Panel onClimate Change
    ---reports based on fraudulent scientific studies
    * AGW - Anthropogenic Global Warming:::mostly a British-American movement
    --from financial elites (the City of London); ideology from 'Club of Rome' think tanks of the elites who think they run the establishment.

    * Evidence implicating the Club of Rome:
    "In searching for a common enemy for which we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages and the like, would fit the bill."

    ...the tool for deceptive manipulation.

    * Connected to expanding nuclear power industry.

    _____________
    Top Scientists Slam & Ridicule the UN IPCC Climate Report
    Sept 2013
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...climate-report

    Meteorology Professor Lindzen at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology:
    "It is quite amazing to see the contortions the IPCC has to go through in order to keep the international climate agenda going."
    ___________
    Global Warming Data faked...
    "NASA and NOAA caught red-handed altering historical temperature data to produce a 'climate change narrative' that defies reality."
    https://www.naturalnews.com/045695_g...fic_fraud.html

    "...a politically motivated attempt to rewrite history and claim global warming is causing U.S. Temperatures to trend upwards. The data actually show that we are in a cooling trend."

    Charts included in article.
    ____________

    Global Warming: Fake News from the Start
    Nov 2017
    https://www.heartland.org/news-opini...from-the-start

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    Latest "Q" posts #1378 - 1379, click to enlarge images

    https://qanon.pub/

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    NK news today = FAKE!
    Twitter news today = REAL!
    Under the Radar.
    Free speech manipulation [visibility / reach].
    FB fake acct deletion?
    100% fake?
    Checks & Balances?
    None?
    #InternetBillofRights
    [Narrative Control]
    [Bandwidth Test]
    [Public Response]
    [Test Limitations]
    [Midterms]

    Politicians bought & paid for?
    Start a Storm.
    Q
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    >>1428017
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    Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: 442012 1428355 📁
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    [5.2]
    [NP 8:11 “Speaker [xxxxxxx] your protection against…”]
    [JD 8:13 “[ABC] has an interest in this…”]
    [NP 8:14 “——————— Pier 39…”]
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    HOPE PORN From Alexandra Bruce, Forbidden Knowledge
    May 13, 2018
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/pro...e-golden-dawn/
    Quote The steady din of disinformation in the post-9/11 era has seen the wholesale replacement of reality with untruth, causing decoherence and cynicism. It’s a vulnerability being exploited by trolls of every stripe, from Flat Earthers to QAnon. An implacable human drive to believe, to make believe and to make others believe gives us Fake News, Internet hoaxes and fact-checking websites that promote state-sponsored propaganda.

    Recently, we’ve been hearing of QAnon, the “Sealed Indictments” of over 18,500+ government criminals and the US base at Guantánamo being outfitted to receive this throng of elite gangsters for processing in military tribunals. Catherine Austin Fitts calls such themes “Hope Porn”. The thinking is that these claims are propagated to pacify the Alternative Media community, i.e., the people most disgruntled by the impunity of the war profiteers and the banksters.

    I have no idea what to make of these claims. Let me be clear that I’m not asking you to believe the information in this video. We’re so hard-wired to believe things or to reject them because they don’t match our beliefs. I’m asking you to resist believing anything for a moment and to make peace with your unknowingness. I’m asking you to suspend both your disbelief AND your belief.

    You may think of Protocols of the Illuminated Suns of the Golden Dawn (all puns intended) authored by C Change as a thought experiment and you may ask yourself, what if the insane Trump foto novela that we are witnessing daily is a stunt to lure members of the coup d’état into their jail cells?

    C Change would call this Protocol 1: Gaslighting the Media: The MSM is being allowed to spin their delusional narrative about Russian Collusion for as long as possible, in order to gradually awaken the masses as to the disparity between this official narrative versus the real reality, while lulling the coup planners into a sense of comfort.

    “Deep State agents will leak information with such brazen abandon that it will lull the Deep State into false security, while perpetuating the false image of a chaotic, disorganized, inefficient, and deeply undermined White House…The world will be united by the New World Order Globalists – but not in the way the Globalists had hoped! The nations of Earth will be united through our shared disgust and unanimous rejection of the Globalist’s pedocracy.”

    C Change paints a sort of wild dream come true for readers of Alternative Media, in which the “pedocracy” is stripped of its power, the central banks are abolished, followed by a debt jubilee and an epic stock market crash, the biggest event in mass consciousness since 9/11. This will trigger the martial law takedown of the corrupt elites. There will be peace in the Middle East and in the Koreas, the Iran deal will be renegotiated favorably and honorably for all concerned and advanced energy technologies will finally be declassified. The National Security threat once posed to the petrodollar by alternative energies has been defused by the lowered costs of existing green technologies and by the inexorable rise of the petroyuan. The release of these suppressed technologies will entail UFO disclosure.

    It goes on. There are elements of hoary New Age themes, reminiscent of NESARA and the Photon Belt. There are disturbing statements extolling mass brainwave entrainment à la Project Bluebeam/Firesign. The author makes comments about organized religion and the legalization of drugs which some will find objectionable but overall, it’s a very interesting thought experiment that challenges you to see things differently and it’s an inspiring bit of hope porn.


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    Trump's outrageous means for obtaining reasonable ends.
    The only reason I'm still coming back to this thread... 4d chess MIGHT be at play in so many cases... or it's just amazing spin.

    Color me cautious.
    Same here!
    Now that I've listened to this video, this is my take:

    The content of the video itself is great!; pretty much outlines "The Plan". Hope Porn? Maybe,... maybe not. If our hope is taken away, what is left? It's our collective actions towards a worthwhile goal that count.

    Perhaps it's the description that is biased & doesn't do this presentation justice. (Just my opinion).

    Thank you for bringing it to our attention onawah.

    Who wouldn't want this outcome? (Rhetorical but serious question).

    Maybe, we've been drinking from the "poisoned well" for too long.

    Time for a change?
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    Premature negotiations ......or just posturing , Kim telling his domestic audience
    we are not lying down.



    North Korea threatens to cancel Trump summit
    28 minutes ago...16/5/18

    North Korea has said it may pull out of a summit with US President
    Donald Trump if the US insists it gives up its nuclear weapons.

    The highly anticipated meeting between Mr Trump and North Korea's
    Kim Jong-un is due to take place on 12 June.

    But in an angry statement, North Korea's vice-foreign minister accused
    the US of making reckless statements and of harbouring sinister intentions.
    He pointed the finger squarely at US National Security Adviser John Bolton.

    "We do not hide our feeling of repugnance towards him," Kim Kye-gwan said.

    read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44134910

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    North Korea 'reconsidering' summit with US



    Published on 16 May 2018
    North Korea says it may abandon the planned talks between North Korean leader
    Kim Jong Un and President Donald Trump if the US "pushes North Korea to unilateral
    denuclearization."

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    CrossTalk on Middle East: Stumbling into War

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzyvfh90NIw
    Published on 15 May 2018....RT...( 25 mins )..
    North Korea has threatened to cancel the planned summit between President
    Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un scheduled for June 12 in Singapore, saying the US
    should carefully consider the fate of the upcoming meeting, in view of what it
    calls "provocative military disturbances with South Korea," North Korea's state
    news agency reported early Wednesday local time.

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    Alex suggests it could be the President himself and senior staff unwittingly
    leaking by their own electronic devices being tapped/monitored,,,,

    White House Discovers Identities Of Leakers - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8pbLtZTJnI
    Published on 15 May 2018...( 10 mins )...
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Now that I've listened to this video, this is my take:

    The content of the video itself is great!; pretty much outlines "The Plan". Hope Porn? Maybe,... maybe not. If our hope is taken away, what is left? It's our collective actions towards a worthwhile goal that count.

    Perhaps it's the description that is biased & doesn't do this presentation justice. (Just my opinion).

    Thank you for bringing it to our attention onawah.

    Who wouldn't want this outcome? (Rhetorical but serious question).

    Maybe, we've been drinking from the "poisoned well" for too long.

    Time for a change?
    I too enjoyed that video - great "porn", well done .

    Most of it reflected well what I thought was our current predicament and what we are trying to do, with optimism as to our prospects.

    But towards the end, the video addressed the problem that, from what we can tell, a majority of humanity, especially perhaps (if the video is right) those who held more liberal (Democrat, pro-Clinton, ...) views, are not going to come easily to an understanding of how vast, varied and vile was the corruption. It anticipated that this problem would be solved by mass mind manipulation and mass surveillance.

    That part I am not buying.

    Nor am I buying a major debt jubilee. Nor am I optimistic that humanity will escape the grips of Debt Money, in some form.

    Once again, as has happened quite a few times before, I found myself doubting the intentions and integrity of the opening 90% of a video, talk or book, which seemed so well to capture the nature of our current predicaments and future hopes, when the culmination led where I will not go.

    My sense continues to be that we are not participating in a struggle of humanity versus Satanic Overlords, but rather observing struggles between various "families" of Overlords, some of whom have overstayed their welcome. We risk having increased mass manipulation and surveillance, along with (for those of us of more conservative/libertarian, pro-Trump, ... views) the sweet smell of success over the "bad" families of our Overlords, leading us into subservience to, even worship of, the "good" families of our Overlords.
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    Praying Medic's recent video... In this video PM offers ways to decode Q's posts for oneself... so, not to depend on others to do it for you...
    Q Anon May 15 - Pain is Coming
    (May 15, 2018)


    VIDEO / AUDIO

    https://youtu.be/Xg1r3BAPVbo

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    We risk having increased mass manipulation and surveillance, along with (for those of us of more conservative/libertarian, pro-Trump, ... views) the sweet smell of success over the "bad" families of our Overlords, leading us into subservience to, even worship of, the "good" families of our Overlords.
    Risk?

    Only if one is susceptible to losing one's own centered-ness in being simply a witness to that which is taking place.

    The same in watching a movie at the theater. How often does one lose their identification of being a single member of the audience that is simply occupying a seat in a theater, watching (from the outside) and becoming drawn into & absorbed by the plot of a movie? Thus, resulting in causing one's blood pressure to rise, heart rate to increase, anticipation to build, emotional surge taking place, and consequentially seeking some sort of relief from.

    What is taking place could also be a means to monitor one's own ability to remain unaffected (emotionally) by what is taking place, and not to be sucked into that which one has very little control over anyways.

    Perhaps, 'trust the plan' reduces down to simply 'trusting in Existence' - that which truly is in control of what is taking place. Perhaps, simply a lesson to learn from is being offered - an opportunity for one's own growth in becoming more consciously aware.

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    Only if one loses one's own centered-ness of simply being a witness to that which is taking place.
    Individually, yes, we who have developed a strong sense of our particular, unique, being, have a strength that it would take highly effective, likely focused, trauma to take from us.

    However, collectively, over time, families, communities, and cultures, as well as myriad group studies, efforts, shared knowledge and shared awareness ... all have been and risk becoming increasingly reconstituted, homogenized, reformulated, ... in ways antithetical to our higher beings.
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    This link was just shared in the FB Q Think Tank I'm in.

    Sharing it here for anyone who may find it helpful

    It is FILLED with Q Proofs!

    https://mega.nz/#F!bvR2lCJB!OOP1-Dxp58XnrI7c8VSm9Q

    I just opened the folder. Lots there...

    It looks like its an accumulation of a lot of the Anon work, stored in one place.

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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Only if one loses one's own centered-ness of simply being a witness to that which is taking place.
    Individually, yes, we who have developed a strong sense of our particular, unique, being, have a strength that it would take highly effective, likely focused, trauma to take from us.

    However, collectively, over time, families, communities, and cultures, as well as myriad group studies, efforts, shared knowledge and shared awareness ... all have been and risk becoming increasingly reconstituted, homogenized, reformulated, ... in ways antithetical to our higher beings.
    Yes, this is why democracy has also been stated as being analogous to 'mob rule'. Whereas a Constitutional republic is based on the right(s) of the 'individual'.

    As is the case with awareness of the 'collective', as in 'shared awareness', it is ultimately dependent on the awareness of each of the 'individual' members of said group, or collective.

    Collective awareness, ultimately comes down to the awareness of the individual. Its up to each one of us - as to how aware one would like to be. In other words, everyone has an 'individual' choice to make, as in being a member of the collective. Its up to each one of us.
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    Collective awareness, ultimately comes down to the awareness of the individual.
    It's layers ... self-organizing, self-replicating layers.

    Each layer takes on a life of its own, such as the layers characterized by atoms, chemical molecules, tissues, organs, our physical bodies, our mental lives, our spiritual beings, our families, communities and organizations, our shared knowledge, ...

    Each layer is formed from the elements and energies of the layers below it, and influenced by the layers near it, and guided by the layers above it, even as each layer marches to the beat of its own drummer.

    I heartily reject reductionism, such as reducing collective awareness to just the sum of the awareness of the individuals in the collective.

    It's turtles layers all the way down, and up, further than the eye can see.
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    Paul and turiya, your discussion is interesting and timely. Really enjoying it.

    As synchronicity would have it, I just happen to also be reading an article that is resonant with what you are both saying... but from a business point of view.

    Sharing it here, just because I love to share... (LOL)

    Studies Show That People Who Have High “Integrative Complexity” Are More Likely To Be Successful

    I read on a wide range of topics, and am often making connections between them as I go through out my day. Long walks are great for thinking.

    I find I almost always want to save Michael Simmons articles for later reference. He speaks primarily about mental models, and learning how to learn.

    It's an important skillset that, crazily, is not taught in schools, even in universities. I feel it ought to be common knowledge. But, that's my bias.

    Here are a few quotes from the article that are standing out right now,

    The top highlight of the article:
    Quote Integrative complexity is the ability to develop and hold opposing traits, values, and ideas and then integrate them into larger ones.
    This one is the reason why I decided to share this article here:

    Quote These findings go against conventional wisdom in the business world, which is that we should double down on our strengths and mitigate everything else. They are also opposed to conventional tribal wisdom that says we should pick one side of every polarity and vehemently fight for it.
    In terms of what we're seeing happening with the Q-Anon phenom research movement, when anyone is setting up a polarized premise, I feel they are setting up the whole, "Control the choices by offering false dichotomy strategy".

    If I'm correct in my own personal hypothesis and we are watching humanity evolve, then we are seeing this mix of moving from a polarized perspective, to a highly integrative perspective. It looks messy, but its also much more fertile and rich, and conducive to freedom and personal growth. (However one defines personal growth.)

    This quote reflects to Paul's mention of layers:
    Quote All are able to see both big pictures and granular details (and levels in between) and synthesize the perspectives they gain at those different levels, whereas most people see just one or the other. They are simultaneously creative, systematic, and practical. They are assertive and open-minded at the same time.
    Vanguards to OUR future?!?

    I keep my internal antenna tuned for this sort of thing.

    I've been having a difficult time trying to describe this... funny, it seems there's a whole book written on the topic.

    Quote Martin calls this approach “integrative thinking,” and defines it in his book The Opposable Mind as:

    The ability to face constructively the tension of opposing ideas and, instead of choosing one at the expense of the other, generate a creative resolution of the tension in the form of a new idea that contains elements of the opposing ideas but is superior to each.
    Well, I guess that's just the definition of synthesizing... lol. Synergy! (The wave of our future.)

    If this is off topic, I apologize in advance.

    My hope is that it compliments the discussion.

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