WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[ExomatrixTV]

• German Mainstream TV (ZDF) Is Admitting What’s Become Increasingly Obvious: The West Is In Denial That Russia Has All But Won Its Military Conflict With Ukraine.

A guest of the German talk show program “

“I am afraid we are now faced with a situation where we now have to face an uncomfortable truth,” said journalist Wolfram Weimer last week. “And that is that Russia has won this war.”

“Now, our chancellor is working with this language template: ‘Russia must not win this war. Ukraine must win,’” Weimer continued.

“I’m just wondering where this is headed politically, because in fact Russia has practically conquered the Donbas in just a matter of a few days. The area gains are huge, they are about as big as Holland and Belgium put together. The land connection to Crimea is there. That means, how is Russia supposed to lose this war now?”

Weimer went on to say that Ukraine “does not have the strength” to militarily fight Russia despite receiving billions of dollars of weapons and assistance from the West, and that Russia is “also winning the international game of sanctions.”

“The Chinese have jumped on Russia, the Indians are doing business like never before with Russia, important emerging countries like Brazil and South Africa have left the West — and the federal chancellor has a trip to South Africa, he was embarrassed on the open stage, they don’t want sanctions. They don’t even want to talk about a war of aggression.”

Weimer pointed out that French President Emmanuel Macron’s conciliatoryrhetoric of reaching a truce with Russia is a signal that Europe has lost political ground over the Ukraine conflict.

“That means we have also lost this international struggle for the majority. And I’m afraid we have to admit that, and because I assume that Macron’s initiative is based on realpolitick insight, we cannot win this war, we have to end it as quickly as possible and that is also of great value to start a diplomatic initiative,” Weimer said.

“That’s what I actually expect from our federal government, precisely because it was so reluctant to keep the channel to Moscow open, Berlin actually has to present a peace plan and I hope the trip to Kiev will result in [German Chancellor Olaf Scholz] doing so,” he concluded.

The West’s sanctions against Russia have backfired spectacularly.

The Russian ruble is now at a 5-year high against the U.S. dollar, and European nations have been forced to cut back on increasingly expensive oil and natural gas that was previously supplied by Russia.

And as Weimer noted, China, India, and other non-Western countries have ramped up commerce with Russia since the sanctions came into effect.

Meanwhile, because of Ukraine and Russia’s key roles in global food production – namely wheat and fertilizers – food prices in the U.S. and Europe have spiked dramatically.

The majority of Americans don’t support U.S. intervention in the Ukraine war, and are much more worried about poor government leadership, soaring inflation, and high gas prices, according to a recent Statista poll.

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• American Fighters Who Surrendered In Donbass Speak To RT
  

Claiming disorganization and incompetence in Ukrainian military, the two US veterans have told fellow foreigners to stay at home



Alexander Drueke speaks to RT after his surrender to Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, June 17, 2022 RT

Two American nationals have told RT that they surrendered to Russian forces after being abandoned by their Ukrainian commanders. The pair told veterans like them to “think twice” before making the trip to Ukraine.

Alexander Drueke and Andy Huynh spoke to RT from a detention center in the Donbass People’s Republic, a day after The Daily Telegraph reported that they had been taken prisoner. The British newspaper described them as being the first American citizens captured while fighting for Ukraine, and Washington has vowed to secure their return.

The two veterans – Drueke served two tours with the US Army in Iraq while Huynh worked in logistics for the Marine Corps in Okinawa, Japan – were captured just hours after being sent to the front lines near Kharkov last week. Under the command of Ukraine’s secret police, the SBU, Huynh said that the pair were sent to cover a Ukrainian retreat.

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US reacts to reported capture of American fighters in Ukraine

“We were told to post up on a little overlook,” Huynh recalled, describing how he was armed with a Czech CZ rifle and a Rocket-Propelled Grenade (RPG) launcher. Columns of Ukrainans retreated past their point, followed by armored vehicles and a tank belonging to either Russia or the DPR.

“When [the tank] shot the first time, I was readying my RPG,” Huynh said. He claimed that the tank shot at a different position moments later, and thinking it was firing upon him, Huynh shouldered his weapon and fired a rocket at the vehicle, but missed. With the Ukrainian troops gone, Huynh and Drueke “ran away and hid in a fighting hole,” as Russian vehicles and foot patrols passed by.

“We were initially supposed to do [reconnaissance] with drones,” Drueke told RT, “but when we got to our location there was already a battle of sorts in progress. Our plans changed…and one teammate and I were left in the woods.”

When the coast was clear, the Americans set off walking through a forest for several hours before Drueke said that they “took a wrong turn or a misstep and made it into a village. We were approached by a Russian patrol and immediately surrendered to them.”

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'Sent to certain death': Why growing numbers of Ukrainian servicemen are refusing to fight on the Donbass frontlines

Currently in captivity, the stakes for Drueke and Huynh are high. Last week, the Russia-allied Donetsk People’s Republic sentenced to death three foreign fighters captured during the battle for Mariupol, including two Britons. The republic’s top court ruled that they were mercenaries and thus not granted privileges that regular prisoners of war would enjoy under international law.

Both men described fair treatment at the hands of their Russian captors, describing how Russian troops gave them food, warm blankets and cigarettes. However, Drueke said that he has heard rumors that the pair could potentially be sentenced to death.

Drueke, who left the US military in 2014, initially set out for Ukraine without a clear plan. Flying to Poland with the intention of doing humanitarian work, he nevertheless brought military gear and said that he was prepared to fight, even if military service “was not the be-all and end-all.” He said that while he was distrustful of American news coverage, he believed that Ukraine’s struggle was being portrayed in a way that “would appeal to veterans like myself.”

Now, with Ukrainian shells falling on civilian targets in the majority-Russian speaking city of Donetsk, he told RT that he realized “there are two sides to this story and I was not getting one of them.”

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Western media and politicians prefer to ignore the truth about civilians killed in Donetsk shelling

Huynh said that he’d traveled to Ukraine in April and contacted a Polish priest overseeing humanitarian relief, but soon made contacts in Ukraine’s ‘International Legion.’ After joining the legion, he left shortly afterwards, citing corruption and disorganization within the ranks.

“Commanders were very corrupt and troops were very ill-prepared and supplied,” he said. Drueke also began his duty in Ukraine with the legion, where he said he was “dissatisfied with the caliber of person they had there.”

Both men traveled the country looking for a more competent unit to join, before ending up in the so-called ‘Task Force Baguette’ in eastern Ukraine, a foreign mercenary unit consisting mainly of American and French veterans. The unit confirmed on Wednesday that Drueke and Huynh – referred to by their nicknames ‘Bama’ and ‘Hate’ – had been captured.

“Watching the propaganda from the West, it says how glorious all Ukraine is, and when I came here I saw how not true that was,” Huynh told RT. “The Ukrainians say they’re the best, but from what I’ve seen, I’ve seen a lot of corruption.”

Drueke ended his interview with a warning. “Fellow veterans like me who are thinking of coming: don’t.”

“Think really long and hard about why you’re doing it and what can happen, and if this is really your fight,” he said. “If I make it out of this situation, I have a lot of things to think about.”

At time of writing, the US has not officially acknowledged the capture of Drueke and Huynh. According to Russian figures, 6,956 foreign citizens from 64 countries have arrived in Ukraine since February to fight for Kiev. Some 1,956 of those have been killed, while 1,779 have left the country, the Russian Defense Ministry stated on Friday.

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• Whole World Turns Its Back On Joe Biden And The War In Ukraine

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[pyrangello]

40 bilion sent to a supposedly structured government that can't supply its own troops with adequate anything. Think about that , the u.s. Congress approved 4000 million dollars to a country where their president is supposedly in hiding.then you see stories like above. Or that cabinet members in Ukraine are buying 9 million dollar homes in Switzerland, or that zelensky has a house in Miami? Or so many u.s. politicians have skin in the game in Ukraine, or that the luxury car market in western Ukraine is still as viable as when all this crap began, then there's the biolabs, none of this makes any sense. Except for that Ukraine is known to be the 4th most corrupt country on the planet. All of this playing on the backdrop of humanitarian aid and sympathy of controlled photos and information let out like a slow drip of a broken faucet. I do feel for the people caught in the middle of this but as for the rest of this , it appears to be a pipeline of money going to who knows what and where all while uncle Joe takes his bike ride like the wicked witch of the West in the wizard of oz only there are no ruby red slippers but instead a huge black hole .
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[Mashika]

Posted by pyrangello (here)
40 bilion sent to a supposedly structured government that can't supply its own troops with adequate anything. Think about that , the u.s. Congress approved 4000 million dollars to a country where their president is supposedly in hiding.then you see stories like above. Or that cabinet members in Ukraine are buying 9 million dollar homes in Switzerland, or that zelensky has a house in Miami? Or so many u.s. politicians have skin in the game in Ukraine, or that the luxury car market in western Ukraine is still as viable as when all this crap began, then there's the biolabs, none of this makes any sense. Except for that Ukraine is known to be the 4th most corrupt country on the planet. All of this playing on the backdrop of humanitarian aid and sympathy of controlled photos and information let out like a slow drip of a broken faucet. I do feel for the people caught in the middle of this but as for the rest of this , it appears to be a pipeline of money going to who knows what and where all while uncle Joe takes his bike ride like the wicked witch of the West in the wizard of oz only there are no ruby red slippers but instead a huge black hole .
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Exactly lol, could not have been said better

Most of that money will do a round around the world then go back to the US, and into some very specific bank accounts, the rest will remain out there, but on other accounts, as a 'payment for your service' kind of thing, for Elensky and associates

War makes people rich, if they are the one dealers behind the source of weapons and 'aid'

No one knows where the weapons go, but there is something that is certain, if other country starts to fall away from western control, it will require "freedom and democracy" soon enough

This is a war the US government needed, because they are losing control and need money to pay and buy empathy around the world 'allies'. Otherwise they will not be able to keep them aligned. The Ukrainian people will pay for all the armament and supplies sent from the west for several generations. But that can only happen if Ukraine remains a country in the next few months. If not, then the west will have lost a giant amount of money and will go under. Nuclear bombs will fly because the last thing a dying empire always does is go to war, and it's already obvious this is a war between the US and Russia, and we are not exactly dying here

This is not a war for Ukraine, this is a war for the US political elite, they won't survive this if Ukraine falls. And that's why they are willing to sacrifice "the European partners" in the first place. NATO was built in order to protect the US from Russia, as a buffer zone, it's a meat grinder intended to cause at some point a war between Europe and Russia, while the US gov waits it out and then finally steps in at the end, once Russia is weakened. This already happened in WW2, it's just a rehash of that

But the US gov has gotten slow and dumbed down by their own policies over time, that they don't understand that Russia never forgets, and takes notes and applies them in time

If/once the US elite goes down, a new, more aware and reasonable generation will take over, and they hopefully will not repeat the same mistakes the vultures at the white house are doing

Think about it, most, if not all of the top level leaders are always old people, and affected in their choices and wills by obsolete, long gone ideals or concepts (like the USSR being Russia only, and not the other countries) or by ideologies that don't apply at all to the current reality of this planet. They just don't know better!

If you look at this current world, from a WW2 perspective, and you don't get that it is not the same world, then how are your decisions good enough? They are not at all, it is a mistake, a deadly one, and that's why we are in this situation right now.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...97826402787329

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wKiGWY0-I9U

[Mashika]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...97826402787329

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wKiGWY0-I9U

The music at the beginning.. lmao!

Thanks for posting that, i can't read the twitter thread, but i was able to get the youtube version, so that's very cool, thanks

[Mashika]

Back in ATS (yes, that site) there is a kind of marvelous example of how some western minds work

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1312609/pg1

Due to sanctions hitting Russia, their vehicles are not being built with safety features.

No Airbags.
Anti-Lock Braking Systems.
Seat Belt Pretensioners.
No GPS.

Emmision Controls are a thing of the past.

Dude.. you in the US can't even feed your babies and people have to go to Mexico to get fuel at a reasonable price. You are a third world country, but let's make fun of Russia because of the sanctions....

This is you right now, ats guy, i won't post the full image but there is a head inside a butt, that's how it truly is by now lol
https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-conten.../headupass.jpg

The level of unawareness back there at ATS is magnificent! So in that aspect, they are indeed 'unique' and 'the best site on the world' as the claim goes

[Mashika]

RussianTroll on ATS, i think he's Vatnik lol, but i can't confirm

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/mem/russiantroll

But if you read his threads, that guy is/was at Donetsk very likely, at the time this started, and he definitely a military guy, he knows stuff and even if he goes sometimes way too much 'nationalistic' i find he is not unaware and he actually comes through with real info and valid opinions

Looks like he was banned already, maybe he should be invited here

ETA:

Batnik lol, he was around at the time this crazyness started, he was a military commander in Lugansk, or a rank i believe in the US would be similar to that. But i can't remember right now

He is Vasilevsky Anatolyevich

He has a youtube channel these days in which he makes fun of a lot of western stuff, and even sometimes play the "talking head" part as in the news channels. It's very funny to watch when that happens lmao
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp0...GGiMd4UaRpfjYw

And he is writing a book about the Donbass war in 2014
https://skald.su/

A book about the war in the Donbass. PLATOON: History of the reconnaissance platoon LNOB ZARYA

A book about the war in the Donbass. The book tells about the events of spring-autumn 2014 in the LNR

You'll have to use a translator, sorry, but the site is not in English

The book is free but also once again, only a russian version of it exists, it's very hard to find the resources to do a good job translation

But he's the real thing. And yes i think/feel that 'RussianTroll' in ATS is Vatnik

And lol a this thread, the hate is palpable and tasteless, and based/born out of that idiotic bubble of ignorance called "Exceptionalism". Just go read though it all, it's amazingly dumb, so in a way, it is actually "exceptional"
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1313074/pg1

[Mashika]

An uplifting video, let's try to have a more beautiful/bright look at this life for a bit at least

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8RiZ5vq7YoA

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=izg5l5YrTxQ

But you should know that this is a very dangerous task, this is an 'i may get killed' task, because they could be considered scouts, and then they will be killed by ukros

Because there is a very hard policy of "if you take any aid from Russia we will kill you all" going on, and these guys are doing something here that Ukraine's law has deemed "illegal"

[ExomatrixTV]

• Say NO to EU membership for Ukraine

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt and unstable countries in the world.1 As the poorest nation in Europe,2 it is notorious for the extensive political influence wielded by organized crime families active within its borders and the harrowing levels of human trafficking.3 Tragically, children in Ukraine are subjected to the worst forms of child labour and little effort has been made to stop this dismal practice.4 This is a country that is home to millions of people who wish to migrate to the EU and flood our nations with cultural and economic tensions. Most strikingly, the country is currently embroiled in a devastating war with Russia and hopes for peace are dwindling as negotiations have come to a grinding halt.

In spite of all this, and apparently blind to these realities, European leaders have disastrously offered Ukraine a fast track to EU membership.

• Economic burden

Such membership would draw our continent into a direct war with Russia; an undesirable conflict for which we are woefully unprepared. It would also result in massive inflows of migrants from Ukraine, adding to the social and economic burden of mass migration borne by many EU nations. Finally, the mere cost of membership for Ukraine has been estimated to be at least €200 million PER DAY!5

We have to stop this. With the support of 1 million EU citizens from at least 7 different EU countries, we can launch an official European Citizens’ Initiative to block this disastrous plan.

• Join us and say NO

Sign and share our petition now and help us to reach the phenomenal threshold of 1 million signatures. It is time to send a clear message to the political elites wishing to go down this fatal path: we, the citizens of Europe, say NO to EU membership for Ukraine!

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[1] “Corruptions Perceptions Index”, Transparency International, accessible at 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index - Explore the… - Transparency.org
[2] World Population Review, accessible at Poorest Countries in Europe 2022 (worldpopulationreview.com)
[3] Global Organized Crime Index, accessible at Criminality in Ukraine - The Organized Crime Index (ocindex.net)
[4] Bureau of International Labor Affairs, ”2020 Findings on the Worst Forms of Child Labor”, accessible at Findings on the Worst Forms of Child Labor - Ukraine | U.S. Department of Labor (dol.gov)
[5] Reuters, “Ukraine War: Country needs $7bn a month in aid, Zelensky says”, BBC News, accessible at Ukraine War: Country needs $7bn a month in aid, Zelensky says - BBC News

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[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mashika (here)
Back in ATS (yes, that site) there is a kind of marvelous example of how some western minds work

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1312609/pg1

Due to sanctions hitting Russia, their vehicles are not being built with safety features.

No Airbags.
Anti-Lock Braking Systems.
Seat Belt Pretensioners.
No GPS.

Emmision Controls are a thing of the past.

Dude.. you in the US can't even feed your babies and people have to go to Mexico to get fuel at a reasonable price. You are a third world country, but let's make fun of Russia because of the sanctions....

This is you right now, ats guy, i won't post the full image but there is a head inside a butt, that's how it truly is by now lol
https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-conten.../headupass.jpg

The level of unawareness back there at ATS is magnificent! So in that aspect, they are indeed 'unique' and 'the best site on the world' as the claim goes

That's so funny. My old jeep (a 1986 Isuzu Trooper, 400,000 km) has none of those — and also no electric windows, no radio, no heating, no A/C, and no computerized engine management control.

But I don't need any of that, not at all, and it also means it's very easy and cheap to keep on the road. And if there's ever an EMP or CME that knocks out everything electrical, it'll be totally unaffected.

[kfm27917]

There are 3 centers of "Western decision making" that are not in NATO territory that I can think of:

1 Davos during WEF meetings
2. Geneva
3. Jerusalem

Just a thought....

[kfm27917]

For Ukrainian troops, a need arises: Javelin customer service

https://www.sott.net/article/468945-...stomer-service

[ExomatrixTV]

• Zelenskyy Bans Books & Hangs Out With Ben Stiller As Opposition Party Banned!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=I7EjrjrylLc

Zelenskyy Bans Books & Hangs Out With Ben Stiller As Opposition Party Banned!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by kfm27917 (here)
For Ukrainian troops, a need arises: Javelin customer service

https://www.sott.net/article/468945-...stomer-service

This is all farcical, and well worth reading. It really looks like the supply of weapons is all for headline-grabbing PR purposes, and nothing to do with them actually being able to be used.

A 258-page user manual (in English, requiring Google Translate), and a 1-800 freephone helpline that seems to go to a customer relations desk. This is worthy of Monty Python — or maybe Johnny English, or Get Smart.

[Bill Ryan]

This post is not meant to be unkind. But considering the hundreds of tragic testimonies recorded on this thread,

• Recent Cardiac Events Amongst Sports People

... one wonders how many fully-vaxxed mercenaries and Ukrainian soldiers have keeled over and died under the stress of combat and maybe running as fast as they could carrying heavy backpacks or other loads. Mashika might categorize that as 'stupid' as well.

[Spiral]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by kfm27917 (here)
For Ukrainian troops, a need arises: Javelin customer service

https://www.sott.net/article/468945-...stomer-service

This is all farcical, and well worth reading. It really looks like the supply of weapons is all for headline-grabbing PR purposes, and nothing to do with them actually being able to be used.

A 258-page user manual (in English, requiring Google Translate), and a 1-800 freephone helpline that seems to go to a customer relations desk. This is worthy of Monty Python — or maybe Johnny English, or Get Smart.

I've seen a very tragic post on telegram, the recovered phone of a Ukrainian soldier, someone had brought up the last searches on it, on a cracked screen it showed frantic searches for Javelin instructions & problems. It's not hard to envision the scene as a desperate young man tries to get this supposed miracle piece of kit to work as the Russian advances on his position, whether he fled or died is unknown, but who leaves their phone behind ?

I say young man because the only other search was for "Stranger Things series 4", a horrible reminder that they are all just people regardless of what uniform they wear.*




*Unless it's a nazi (Azov, Kraken, etc), they have forgone human status.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Artillery of June 2022:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8h9KoEmlc

From Bill:
John, please be sure to add some description to the videos you post so as not to waste readers' time if they're not interested in that particular issue. I know this is military analyst Andrei Martyanov, but quite a few other readers may not. But I don't know what he addresses in this video without watching it, and right now I don't have time.
Thanks

[ExomatrixTV]

• German TV Guest Tells TRUTH About The Ukraine War:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mkhy0Blfhj8

Anti-war voices are virtually unheard from in most of the U.S. media, and that even includes anyone who suggests that Ukraine is losing the war against Russia and needs to cut its losses and negotiate peace. German television is not quite so restrictive, it turns out, which is why journalist Wolfram Wiemer was allowed to echo these very sentiments during a recent program where he unequivocally insisted that the war was lost and Ukraine must acknowledge that fact and work quickly to find a diplomatic solution before the nation’s losses become even more severe at Russia’s hands. Jimmy and his panel of The Dive’s Jackson Hinkle and American comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the status of the War in Ukraine and Jimmy’s talents for reading along to spoken German.