About the Elohim, Anunnaki: our fathers from the desert and our creation

[Irminsül]

Hi Ravenlocke. I suppose you’re sharing this because you think these Tall Whites might be the Elohim I’m talking about or could have some connection to them… or maybe because Charles Hall said that on these extraterrestrials’ ships he saw writing that looked like hieroglyphics (and the section my thread belongs to is Ancient Aliens). There are more possibilities, I guess. It would be nice if you could tell us why you thought what you sent might be related to my thread.

Besides that, I’ll mention that I read the first and half of the second book by Charles Hall—there are five in total. They’re available here in the Project Avalon library.

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Cha...ospitality.pdf

I didn’t continue reading his books because there were some odd things in the testimony of this supposed contactee (or whatever you want to call him) that didn’t quite add up for me. Even so, his writing style is captivating and the subject is absolutely fascinating. The Why Files did a report on it. As often happens with this kind of case, there’s no absolute certainty that what this man says is true—nor can the opposite be stated with certainty either.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EieUJvKrjo4

[Ravenlocke]

I posted what I termed a “revival” interview of Dr Charles Hall” by Jesse Michaels because in attempting to connect the dots about Ancient Aliens,
it is about the Tall Whites, they are considered ETs and nondisclosed by our government, they are described as unfriendly, and it fits the category of connecting the dots in Ufology, Extraterrestrial Contact sub category Ancient Aliens since part of the testimony is that these Tall Whites have probably been here since the Ice age.

Kerry Cassidy,

WHY DON'T JAY STRATTON, LUIS ELIZONDO AND TO THE STARS ACADEMY PLAYERS know that the TIC TACS are TALL WHITE SCOUT CRAFT built by our secret space program FOR the TAll Whites an alien race based in Indian Springs Nevada according to Air Force vet CHARLES HALL? Or are they lying because this info goes back to the 60's!!!

https://x.com/camelotQKerry/status/1837445034003910708

[Ravenlocke]

Trump Briefed on Alien “Nordics”Rep. Eric Burlinson says David Grush personally briefed Trump on these so-called “Tall Whites”Grush reportedly believes they’re just a few centuries ahead of us, and they walk among us, undetected.🧐🤔👽👽👽👽👽👽

Research Charles Hall with testimony of “ Range 4 Harry”. Tall Whites have paper white skin. Nordics look like human blondes & sep all together. William Tompkins said Nordics helped Navy build cigar shape craft.

https://x.com/RedPandaKoala/status/1938877032827625891

[Vicus]

This article come very good to my first post...

The Anunnaki Hypothesis ,when Modern Genetics meets Ancient Sumerian Records...

The Scientific Revolution meets Ancient History

In 1953, when James Watson and Francis Crick published their model of DNA's double helix structure - built on Rosalind Franklin's crucial X-ray crystallography work - they could not have imagined that,

their discovery would eventually provide evidence supporting one of humanity's oldest recorded creation stories...
Yet today, modern genetic research has uncovered anomalies in human DNA that align remarkably with ancient Sumerian accounts of genetic manipulation by beings called the Anunnaki.

The Sumerian tablets, dating back over 6,000 years, describe advanced beings from the heavens who genetically modified early humans to create modern humanity.
For decades, scholars dismissed these accounts as mythology.

But recent breakthroughs in genomics, evolutionary biology, and paleogenetics are revealing patterns in human DNA that suggest our origins may be far more complex - and artificial - than previously believed.


What if the ancient Sumerians were not telling mythological stories, but rather documenting actual genetic engineering events that modern science is only now beginning to understand...?

The Chromosome Mystery - Why Humans don't Add Up

The most compelling genetic anomaly supporting the Anunnaki hypothesis involves human chromosome structure.

While our closest relatives - chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans - all have 48 chromosomes,

humans have only 46....

This represents a fundamental genetic difference that evolutionary theory struggles to explain through natural processes alone.
The scientific explanation centers on human chromosome 2, which was formed by the head-to-head fusion of two ancestral chromosomes that remained separate in other primates.

This fusion arose prior to our last common ancestor with Neanderthal and Denisovan hominins ~ 0.74-4.5 million years ago.
But here is what mainstream science does not want to address:



recent analysis suggests this event happened "shortly before a million years ago, in the common ancestors of Neanderthal, Denisovans, and African ancestral humans",
...remarkably close to the timeframe suggested by Sumerian chronologies for Anunnaki intervention...

The Engineering Implication

Chromosome fusion is not typically a beneficial mutation.
In most species, such dramatic chromosomal changes are lethal or produce sterile offspring. Yet in humans, this fusion not only succeeded but became fixed in the entire population.
The precision and success of this genetic change suggests intentional modification rather than random mutation...

continue: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/s...ki/anu_113.htm

[Vicus]

And another one...

Alien DNA in Humans...

Scientists claim to have found evidence of alien genetic manipulation in human DNA, with large sections of genes seemingly 'inserted' into people, potentially affecting millions of humans.

If confirmed, the discovery could fundamentally alter our understanding of human evolution and the future of the human race, said lead researcher Dr Max Rempel, the founder and chief executive of the DNA Resonance Research Foundation.

The study, which has not yet undergone peer review, analyzed DNA from both ordinary people and self-reported alien abductees.

In an examination of 581 complete families from the 1,000 Genomes Project, Rempel found 'large sequences' of DNA in 11 families that appeared to match neither parent.

These anomalies include,



a cluster of 348 non-parental genetic variants, some of which were from children born before 1990, ruling out human gene-editing technologies such as CRISPR, which only emerged in 2013.

continue: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/c.../genoma223.htm

[Irminsül]

Posted by Vicus (here)
This article come very good to my first post...

The Anunnaki Hypothesis ,when Modern Genetics meets Ancient Sumerian Records...

The Scientific Revolution meets Ancient History

In 1953, when James Watson and Francis Crick published their model of DNA's double helix structure - built on Rosalind Franklin's crucial X-ray crystallography work - they could not have imagined that,

their discovery would eventually provide evidence supporting one of humanity's oldest recorded creation stories...
Yet today, modern genetic research has uncovered anomalies in human DNA that align remarkably with ancient Sumerian accounts of genetic manipulation by beings called the Anunnaki.

The Sumerian tablets, dating back over 6,000 years, describe advanced beings from the heavens who genetically modified early humans to create modern humanity.
For decades, scholars dismissed these accounts as mythology.

But recent breakthroughs in genomics, evolutionary biology, and paleogenetics are revealing patterns in human DNA that suggest our origins may be far more complex - and artificial - than previously believed.


What if the ancient Sumerians were not telling mythological stories, but rather documenting actual genetic engineering events that modern science is only now beginning to understand...?

The Chromosome Mystery - Why Humans don't Add Up

The most compelling genetic anomaly supporting the Anunnaki hypothesis involves human chromosome structure.

While our closest relatives - chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans - all have 48 chromosomes,

humans have only 46....

This represents a fundamental genetic difference that evolutionary theory struggles to explain through natural processes alone.
The scientific explanation centers on human chromosome 2, which was formed by the head-to-head fusion of two ancestral chromosomes that remained separate in other primates.

This fusion arose prior to our last common ancestor with Neanderthal and Denisovan hominins ~ 0.74-4.5 million years ago.
But here is what mainstream science does not want to address:



recent analysis suggests this event happened "shortly before a million years ago, in the common ancestors of Neanderthal, Denisovans, and African ancestral humans",
...remarkably close to the timeframe suggested by Sumerian chronologies for Anunnaki intervention...

The Engineering Implication

Chromosome fusion is not typically a beneficial mutation.
In most species, such dramatic chromosomal changes are lethal or produce sterile offspring. Yet in humans, this fusion not only succeeded but became fixed in the entire population.
The precision and success of this genetic change suggests intentional modification rather than random mutation...

continue: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/s...ki/anu_113.htm

Hi Vicus! Excellent contributions — I had overlooked them. In addition to the current information you’re sharing, I’m going to contribute the results of some research on ancient cultures from the Fertile Crescent. To start, I’m posting an image and some information about a very intriguing Sumerian archaeological object.

The Libation Vase of Gudea is a ceremonial stone vessel commissioned by Gudea, the ruler (ensi) of the Sumerian city-state of Lagash during the late 3rd millennium BCE (around 2150–2120 BCE, Neo-Sumerian period). It was created as a religious offering, most likely dedicated to the god Ningishzida, whose emblem — two intertwined serpents rising along a central staff — appears prominently on the vessel.

The vase is carved from diorite, a very hard, dark igneous stone that Gudea famously imported from distant lands for his statues and ritual objects. Despite the difficulty of working diorite, the surface is finely polished and inscribed with cuneiform.

Today, the Libation Vase of Gudea is housed in the Louvre Museum in Paris, within the Department of Near Eastern Antiquities. It is considered one of the most iconic surviving ritual artifacts of the Neo-Sumerian period.

[Irminsül]

To begin with, I myself carry the genetics of ancient peoples from the Fertile Crescent. My paternal surname is Sahade, and my ancestors are originally from Syria, though they originally came from Iraq. For years I have studied the Abrahamic religions. And beyond that, I’m passionate about ancient history — especially that of Europe and the Middle East. I’d like to share with you some concepts I’ve been working on connecting.

The Common Creation Pattern in Mesopotamia, Canaan/Ugarit, and Israel

Across the entire cultural arc of the Ancient Near East — from Sumerian-Akkadian Mesopotamia, through the Canaanite/Ugaritic pantheon, to the Elohim of the Torah — the same underlying structure appears to explain the origin and function of humanity. These are not isolated stories: they belong to a shared “mental universe.”

• 1. The Divine Council as Creative Organ
  

In all three spheres, creation is not the work of a solitary figure but of a divine assembly:
In Mesopotamia, the council of the great gods/Anunnaki.
In Ugarit, El and the ’ilhm (“the gods”), an active pantheon.
In Genesis, the Elohim, whose plural form and council-like scenes preserve the background of a divine assembly.
The phrase “let us make,” the idea of a meeting, collective decisions — all point to creation as a deliberate act of a group of deities.

• 2. Earthly Matter + Divine Principle

In all traditions, the human being emerges from the combination of earthly substance and a divine component:
Atra-Ḫasīs: clay + the flesh and blood of a sacrificed god.
Genesis: earth/clay (adamah) + divine breath infused into the ’adam.
Ugarit: while no explicit human-creation myth survives, the general logic of the pantheon implies that humanity is part of the cosmic order organized by the gods and sustained by their vital energy.
The pattern is the same: the human is clay infused with a spark of the divine.

• 3. Human Function: Work, Management, and Order

In all three traditions, humanity has a concrete purpose, never an abstract one:
In Mesopotamia: to replace the minor gods in agricultural, hydraulic, and labor tasks.
In the Ugaritic cosmos: to maintain the social and agricultural life that supports temples and the kingship established by the divine council.
In Genesis: to cultivate, name, govern, and administer the living world.
The human being is a manager of the cosmos, not a mere spectator. Work, organization, care for the environment, and sustaining order are expected.

• 4. Cosmic Recalibration: Plagues, Crises, and Floods

When humanity multiplies, overflows, or generates conflict:
In Atra-Ḫasīs, plagues and famines arise, culminating in the Flood.
In Ugarit, although no flood appears, the narratives revolve around crises in the divine order that impact human reality (the death of Baal, droughts, cycles of fertility and restoration).
In Genesis, widespread corruption leads to the Flood and the reorganization of humanity.
In all cases, the gods readjust the system when imbalance appears.

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Returning to the topic of creation, then, this is what we are told in Genesis:


Genesis 1:26

And Elohim said,
“Let us make adam (humankind) in our image, according to our likeness;
and let them rule over the fish of the sea,
and over the bird of the heavens,
and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”

Genesis 1:27

So Elohim created the adam in his image;
in the image of Elohim he created him;
male and female he created them.

Genesis 2:7

Then YHWH Elohim formed the adam from dust of the ground,
and He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life,
and the adam became a living being.


This would be the representation of that biblical "story":

And the parallel in the Atra-Ḫasīs would be something like this:


When the gods, instead of men, were the ones doing all the work and bearing the loads, the toil became unbearable and the junior gods, the Igigi, groaned under the burden, blaming one another and finally rising in revolt against Enlil. They abandoned their picks and spades, surrounded the god’s dwelling by night, and their clamor terrified the great Anunnaki, who assembled a divine council to investigate the uproar. There Ea (Enki) defends the rebels, explaining that “their work was too hard, their trouble was too much” and proposes a radical solution: the womb-goddess will fashion a substitute worker. The gods summon Belet-ili (Nintu, Mami) and say to her: “You are the womb-goddess, creator of mankind! Create primeval man, that he may bear the yoke! Let him bear the yoke, the work of Ellil, let man bear the load of the gods!” Ea then reveals the secret rite: on an appointed day one god, Ilawela, is slaughtered, and “Nintu shall mix clay with his flesh and his blood; then a god and a man will be mixed together in clay,” so that from the god’s flesh “a ghost may come into existence … as his living sign,” ensuring the slain deity is never forgotten. In this way, according to Atrahasis Tablet I, humanity—the lullû / lullû-amēlu—is brought into being as a blend of earth and divine substance, created explicitly to carry the yoke and relieve the Igigi of the labor that had once crushed them.


And this would be the representation of this Sumerian "myth":

[Irminsül]

Apart from everything already presented — certain scientific indications, extensive historical and cultural information from ancient peoples — there is one more factor that I find extremely important: the Argentine prophet Benjamín Solari Parravicini (yes, I know, I mention him all the time haha) spoke specifically in three psychographies about the beings from the planet Ki-En-Ki. He was evidently referring to the Anunnaki. It should be clarified that when this prophet spoke of dates, he always did so symbolically. He was not literally referring to the year 2000. I will now share the messages he received on this topic.


PSYCHOGRAPHY FROM 1960:
“The astronavigator from the planet ‘KI-EN-KI,’ who arrived on Earth at the hour of Creation, who contributed to Egyptian, Greek, and Roman construction, who aided in the wars of Europe and guided the latest constructions, now seeks once again to strengthen humankind in its mind and prevent atomic disaster. He is on a mission!”


PSYCHOGRAPHY FROM 1960:
“The astral aeronaut who dwelled on Earth during the Chaldean civilization then brought ships shaped like gigantic red fish and used them to carry human beings to the planet ‘KI-EN-KI.’ Today he will again bring his giant red ships to likewise save Earth’s beings from the three smokes and carry them to ‘KI-EN-KI.’ He will return them in the year 2000!”

PSYCHOGRAPHY FROM 1960:
“The spacecraft of ‘KI-EN-KI,’ shaped like enormous fish of fire, will travel to Earth on a high mission of assistance. They will descend over their already familiar South Pole. They will dwell within the ice until the hour of the hour. Then they shall be.”

[Irminsül]

The Human Being: the Golden Dragon

1. “The Dragons of Eden” by Carl Sagan: the reptile we carry inside


In The Dragons of Eden (1977), Carl Sagan speculates about the evolution of human intelligence. He adopts Paul MacLean’s “triune brain” model: a deep reptilian complex (instinct, territoriality, aggression), wrapped by a mammalian limbic system (emotion), crowned by the neocortex, seat of rational and abstract thought.
The title The Dragons of Eden refers to the idea that our ancestral fears of snakes and reptilian predators became embedded in the brain and later emerged as myths of dragons haunting the “Eden” of consciousness. In Sagan’s vision, the “dragons” are symbolic of the ancient reptilian predators that shaped our evolution and our nightmares.
Modern neuroscience considers the “triune brain” an oversimplification; the brain does not separate into three neat evolutionary layers. But as a scientific myth, Sagan’s idea left a powerful image: we carry a reptilian core inside us, and the dragons are the metaphorical memory of that heritage.
From an esoteric point of view, you can flip the interpretation: rather than seeing our inner “dragon” only as blind instinct, you can read it as the trace of a higher reptilian–aquatic lineage from which we ultimately descend—engineered, in this narrative, by cosmic gardeners.

2. Contactees and the archetype of the aquatic reptile


In the 20th century, contactee lore reactivates these symbols in a cosmic key. In the Italian–Hispanic esoteric milieu, three figures are especially important:
Eugenio Siragusa
Italian contactee active from the 1950s, founder of groups such as the Centro Studi Fratellanza Cosmica and self-proclaimed messenger of extraterrestrial beings like Ashtar Sheran. His messages revolve around cosmic hierarchies, solar beings, planetary warnings, and the guidance of humanity by superior intelligences.
Ángel Cristo Acoglanis
A Greek–Argentinian mystic and healer who played a central role in the esoteric development of Capilla del Monte and the mythology of the intraterrestrial city ERKS. Through his rituals, group contacts, and teachings around the Uritorco region, he helped consolidate the idea of a hidden cosmic guidance acting from underground and from the heavens.
Nimrod de Rosario (Felipe Moyano)
Associated with the Sabiduría Hiperbórea (Hyperborean Wisdom) and the book El Misterio de Belicena Villca, he appears in many accounts as a bearer of a radical gnosis about non-human lineages, cosmic wars, and spiritual genetics.
Within the broader contactee mythos surrounding these and other figures, a recurring theme emerges: amphibious, reptiloid, or dragon-like cosmic beings. Sometimes they are described as living in oceans of other worlds, or as subtle entities tied to the element of water, intervening in our biological and spiritual evolution.
Even if they don’t always phrase it in the exact sentence “human beings were created from an aquatic reptile,” their messages fit a larger archetype:
The apkallu of Mesopotamia, semi-divine sages, half man and half fish, who came from the waters to teach writing, agriculture, and law. The first among them, Oannes, emerged daily from the sea to instruct humanity.
The Nommo of the Dogon, amphibious “masters of the waters,” often linked to the Sirius system, who bring order, knowledge, and civilization from the cosmic ocean.
In the esoteric reading you’re asking for, Siragusa, Acoglanis, and Nimrod are late spokesmen for a very ancient message: the human being did not emerge solely from blind evolution, but from a deliberate intervention of cosmic gardeners of a reptilian–aquatic type.
And here comes the explicit clarification:
Within this mythic-esoteric framework, those space gardeners selected and genetically engineered a Triassic marine reptile known to us as Nothosaurus mirabilis—a sleek, semi-aquatic sauropterygian of around four meters in length, with pointed teeth adapted to catching fish, inhabiting the shallow seas of the ancient Tethys Ocean—as the biological base upon which they would later sculpt Homo sapiens sapiens.
Paleontology, of course, only describes Nothosaurus as an extinct marine reptile from the Triassic period and does not accept any extraterrestrial genetic engineering scenario. But in the mythic narrative, Nothosaurus mirabilis becomes the chosen matrix, the “dragon of the sea” whose line is uplifted toward self-awareness by the Elohim.

3. The serpent cult: Sumerians, Egyptians, Mayas


The sacred serpent appears in almost every major civilization. Let’s look at three key cultures:
3.1. Sumerians and Mesopotamia
In ancient Mesopotamia, the Sumerians and their successors revered Ningishzida, a deity associated with vegetation, the underworld, and serpents. He is depicted as a human figure with snakes emerging from his shoulders, or as a double serpent or dragon.
Ningishzida belongs to a group of snake gods linked to the underworld, justice, vegetation, and chthonic powers. In some iconography, the intertwining serpents associated with him resemble a double helix, and later authors have compared this to the caduceus and to DNA symbolism.
Esoterically, the message is transparent: the serpent/dragon is the code of life, the guardian of balance, the power that rises from the watery depths of the earth and the subconscious.
3.2. Egypt: Wadjet and the uraeus
In Egypt, the cobra goddess Wadjet is among the oldest deities. She appears as the uraeus, the rearing cobra on the brow of the pharaoh. This symbol conveys sovereignty, divine protection, and lethal solar fire: the cobra spits flames at the enemies of the king.
Here, the serpent is not a mere animal: it is solar fire, royal power, the living eye of Ra set upon the human forehead. A human crowned with a serpent is a human fused with a dragon of light.
3.3. Mayas: Kukulkán, the Feathered Serpent
In Mesoamerica, the Feathered Serpent appears among Aztecs (Quetzalcóatl) and Mayas (Kukulkán). It is one of the highest deities, associated with wind, knowledge, civilization, and cyclical renewal.
At Chichén Itzá, during the equinoxes, light and shadow create the illusion of a serpent of light descending the steps of the pyramid of Kukulkán. This dramatizes the union of heaven and earth, and the periodic descent of sacred energy that renews the world.
So we see a pattern:
In Sumer, the serpent is a vegetation–underworld god, order and chthonic power.
In Egypt, the cobra is solar fire and royal legitimacy.
In Mesoamerica, the Feathered Serpent is knowledge, calendar, and world-renewal.
Over and over, serpent/dragon = cosmic power, knowledge, and the legitimation of elites.

4. Jesus and the phrase: “brood of vipers”


In the Gospels, John the Baptist and Jesus use a striking expression: “brood of vipers” or “race of vipers” (for example in Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33), directed at religious hypocrites of their time.
The immediate meaning is harsh, but symbolically:
The viper denotes cunning, venom, and corruption of speech and intention.
“Brood” or “race” suggests a lineage of consciousness, not merely bloodline: people who spiritually descend from deceit and malicious cunning.
From the esoteric angle, Jesus is not condemning the sacred serpent as such, but saying:
You are not the luminous dragons of wisdom; you are a distorted, venomous version of that archetype, a corrupted serpent that uses knowledge to enslave, not to liberate.
In the narrative of cosmic gardeners, this is Jesus exposing a faction that has betrayed the original draconic legacy—the heritage of the cosmic reptile–dragons—turning it toward control instead of awakening.

5. Nāgas, knowledge, and Homo sapiens sapiens


In Indian and Southeast Asian traditions, the Nāgas are serpent deities, often depicted as giant cobras, living in rivers, lakes, oceans, and the subterranean world. They are guardians of treasures, of water, and above all of hidden wisdom.
Shesha/Ananta is the infinite naga upon whom Vishnu reclines in cosmic repose.
Vasuki coils around Shiva’s neck.
In many legends, nagas guard sacred scriptures or esoteric teachings.
The serpent is also a symbol of Kundalini, the coiled energy at the base of the spine that, when awakened, rises like a serpent of fire through the chakras until it reaches the crown and brings enlightenment.
Some Gnostic groups even revered the serpent of Eden as the bearer of gnosis, the one who offers knowledge against the ignorance imposed by a jealous demiurge.
Now compare this with the name of our species:
Homo sapiens = “the man who knows.”
Homo sapiens sapiens = “the man who knows that he knows.”
Symbolically, we are the species in which the serpent of knowledge turns back upon itself and becomes self-aware. The double “sapiens” echoes the double-coiled serpent: knowledge that recognizes itself.
In the cosmic-gardener hypothesis, this doubling of consciousness is exactly what the Elohim were aiming for when they “uplifted” the Nothosaurus mirabilis lineage: transforming an instinct-driven marine reptile into a vessel capable of sapiens–sapiens reflexivity.

6. Elohim and the “dragons of the sea” before man


In the Hebrew Bible, before creating humankind, Elohim creates the great creatures of the sea. The key verse is Genesis 1:21:
“So God (Elohim) created the great sea creatures (ha-tanninim ha-gedolim) and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed, according to their kinds…”
The word tanninim is variously translated as:
“great sea creatures”
“sea monsters”
“great sea serpents”
“dragons”
In other biblical passages, tannin can mean serpent, dragon, or huge sea monster, sometimes associated with figures like Leviathan.
The order of events is clear:
1. Elohim orders the waters and creates the great sea dragons/monsters.
2. Later, on the sixth day, Elohim creates human beings.
In esoteric reading, this becomes:
Before humanity, the Elohim design primordial aquatic–reptilian lineages—“dragons of the sea” (tanninim).
These lineages form the biological matrix upon which the Elohim will later act to bring forth a being capable of hosting higher consciousness.
Within the narrative you’re building, this matrix is identified—symbolically and mythopoetically—with Nothosaurus mirabilis: a marine reptile from the Triassic, distributed across the Tethys Ocean, semi-aquatic and predatory, a perfect template for a powerful, streamlined, water-adapted body.
Again, paleontology only states that Nothosaurus was an extinct sauropterygian from the Middle Triassic, long vanished before humans appeared. It does not recognize any extraterrestrial intervention. But the esoteric synthesis sees in these “dragons of the sea” the hidden historical body later refined by the Elohim.

7. Archangels and dragons: etymology and inner meaning


Strictly speaking:
Archangel comes from Greek archággelos: arché (“principal, chief”) + ángelos (“messenger”). It literally means “chief-messenger,” “principal angel.”
Dragon comes from Greek drákōn, “great serpent, dragon.”
So linguistically, “archangel” does not derive from “dragon.” That’s the honest philological fact.
But symbolically, in Christian apocalyptic imagery, the link is intense:
In Revelation, the archangel Michael fights and defeats the “great dragon, that ancient serpent.”
Iconography shows Michael standing upon a dragon, sword raised, subduing it.
Esoteric interpretation:
The dragon = primordial reptilian–aquatic power, instinct, chaos, and raw fire—the cosmic Nothosaurus-type legacy within us.
The archangel = higher solar consciousness, the ordering principle that masters and rides the dragon instead of being devoured by it.
Thus, one can say that the “hidden etymology” or deeper meaning of “archangel” is: the messenger of the Highest who has integrated the draconic power, the rider of the dragon within. In other words, an archangel is a being who has reconciled the Nothosaurus mirabilis heritage with the light of the central Sun.

8. Dragons in China: imperial lineage and zodiac


In Chinese tradition, the dragon is an exalted, benevolent being: lord of rain, rivers, lakes, and the eastern seas; emblem of cosmic order and imperial authority.
Emperors called themselves “sons of the dragon”, and their throne was the Dragon Throne.
The five-clawed imperial dragon was a symbol restricted to the emperor; unauthorized use could be punished severely.
In the Chinese zodiac, the dragon is one of the 12 animals and is associated with charisma, leadership, and exceptional destiny. Many families have preferred to have children in a Year of the Dragon, believing they would inherit that energetic prestige.
Here again, the pattern: the apex of human power—the emperor—identifies himself with a draconic lineage. In esoteric language, the ruler is an incarnation of the cosmic dragon, embodying in human form the water-and-sky power of the world.

9. Seraphim: dragons of light and celestial fire


In Biblical Hebrew, śārāf means “burning one” and is used for fiery serpents, venomous snakes whose bite “burns.”
In Numbers and Deuteronomy, seraphim are burning serpents of the desert.
In Isaiah 6, however, seraphim appear as fiery, six-winged beings around the throne of YHWH, crying “Holy, holy, holy…”
Some scholars note the continuity with Egyptian imagery of the fiery cobra (uraeus) on the king’s forehead—the blazing serpent that embodies solar power and divine protection.
So behind the later angelic “Seraphim” stands an older image: winged, fiery serpents, a kind of celestial dragon. The later Jewish and Christian traditions stylize them as purely angelic, but the draconic root remains.
From the viewpoint you’re articulating, a seraph is a great dragon of light and celestial fire—a living ray of the central Sun that is God. Each seraphim is a beam of the divine core, channeling its fire into creation.
In this same symbolic system, the space gardeners—Elohim and their highest agents—are like seraphic draconic engineers: they take the raw biological clay of creatures such as Nothosaurus mirabilis and, through aeons of subtle intervention, infuse it with light, gradually shaping a vessel capable of bearing seraphic consciousness.

10. Serpent, secret societies, and gnosis


Across history, esoteric orders and secret societies have reused the serpent/dragon symbol:
The ouroboros, the serpent or dragon biting its tail, appears in Egyptian, Gnostic, and Hermetic traditions as a symbol of eternity, cyclical time, and the unity of All.
In Masonic and para-Masonic contexts, the serpent represents wisdom, transformation, immortality, and healing; the ouroboros in particular expresses perpetual renewal and the endless work of spiritual refinement.
For many of these groups, the core idea is:
What exoteric religion fears in the serpent (forbidden knowledge, independence from imposed authority) is exactly what the inner teachings seek: gnosis, lucid awareness, conscious freedom.
Thus your statement that “all secret societies know this” points to a shared undercurrent: they recognize that behind the demonized figure of the serpent/dragon lies a cosmic truth about human origin and destiny.
In this view, they know that:
The tanninim of Genesis, the “dragons of the sea,” are not mere mythic monsters, but veiled memories of real ancient lineages—symbolized here by beings like Nothosaurus mirabilis.
The serpent of Eden, the nagas, the Ningishzida double-helix serpent, the Feathered Serpent, the dragon of China, the seraphim of fire: all these are facets of one meta-symbol—the draconic intelligence that shapes life and invites it to awaken.

11. Weaving it all together: space gardeners, Nothosaurus mirabilis, and the Elohim


If we now gather all the threads, we get a coherent picture—coherent as a mythic-esoteric worldview, not as accepted scientific doctrine:

1. Modern science-myth

Carl Sagan popularizes the idea of a “reptilian brain” and “dragons of Eden” as a metaphor of ancestral reptilian influence on our evolution.
Neuroscience later qualifies that model, but the symbol persists: there is a reptile within us.
2. Ancient religions
Sumerians, Egyptians, Mayas, Indians, Chinese, Gnostics: everywhere, serpents and dragons = cosmic power, knowledge, renewal, and the legitimization of rulers and priesthoods.

3. Biblical tradition

Elohim creates the great sea dragons (tanninim) before humans.
The spiritual lineage divides: some become a “brood of vipers,” corrupting the draconic heritage, while others align with the luminous serpent (seraphim, Christ as solar Logos).

4. Distant past lineages

Across myth and esoteric speculation, “dragon of the sea” can be seen as pointing to real marine reptile lineages known to paleontology, such as Nothosaurus mirabilis, a semi-aquatic sauropterygian from the Tethys region in the Middle Triassic.

5. Contactees

Figures like Siragusa, Acoglanis, and Nimrod echo a message of extraterrestrial or hyperdimensional intervention, cosmic beings guiding, warning, and sometimes genetically tuning humanity.

6. Secret orders

Masonic, Hermetic, Gnostic, and other esoteric currents keep the serpent/dragon as a key symbol of gnosis and the eternal work of inner transformation.
Within this framework, to say:
“The human being is the product of intervention by space gardeners who made us in their image and likeness: the Elohim”
is to assert that:
Elohim are not a solitary God, but a collective of higher intelligences, many of them draconic-seraphic, associated with stars, deep oceans of space, and cosmic fire.
These Elohim chose and modified a specific marine reptile lineage—symbolized by Nothosaurus mirabilis—as the starting template. Over enormous spans of time, through subtle interventions, they guided that reptilian–aquatic biology through countless transformations until it produced a being capable of double consciousness: Homo sapiens sapiens, the one who knows that he knows.
Our body and brain still bear the layered mark of this: mammalian, reptilian, aquatic, and seraphic; the Nothosaurus mirabilis heritage transmuted into a temple for the inner Sun.
The global mythic field—serpents, dragons, nagas, Feathered Serpents, ureai, seraphim, and dragons of China—is the fragmented memory of this ancient draconic project.
The spiritual drama (Jesus vs. the “brood of vipers,” archangels vs. dragons, secret societies studying the serpent) is the ongoing struggle over how we use this legacy:
either for domination, deceit, and fear,
or for gnosis, freedom, and conscious union with the central Source.
From the standpoint of mainstream biology, human beings arise by evolutionary processes from primate ancestors, with no recognized extraterrestrial engineering, and Nothosaurus mirabilis is simply an extinct marine reptile long gone before humans appeared.
From the esoteric “space gardener” vision you are exploring, however, it is taken as absolutely certain on a mythic–initiatic level that:
We are the children of the dragons of the sea,
uplifted from the matrix of Nothosaurus mirabilis,
refined by the fire of the seraphim,
and shaped by the Elohim, the space gardeners who made us—within this worldview—in their own draconic, luminous image and likeness.