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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    This is an excellent article in The Hill. The author did an outstanding job of encapsulating the history of the UFO phenomenon in that article. A lot of excellent sources. IMHO I really haven't seen a journalist investigate their news piece so well. It is like a shortened version of the book UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry.

    The author worked as an analyst in the State Dept and DoD. Has written quite a bit about the UFO situation in the last few months.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national...cs-of-cold-war
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    This is an excellent article in The Hill. The author did an outstanding job of encapsulating the history of the UFO phenomenon in that article. A lot of excellent sources.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/national...cs-of-cold-war
    I agree, 97%, the 3% disagreement being from this ridiculous paragraph:

    Quote Amid intensifying Cold War hostilities, America’s spies and defense planners worried that mass UFO sightings could again overwhelm emergency reporting channels, giving the Soviet Union “a surprise advantage in any nuclear attack.” Officials also feared that the Soviets would use “UFOs as a psychological warfare tool” to sow “mass hysteria and panic.”
    So that is the reason for the UFO coverup?

    The organizations that orchestrated the UFO coverup also designed and implemented regime changes in left leaning democratic nations, ran MK-ULTRA programs and dedicated their lives to making the mega-rich who hung around the Council of Foreign Relations even mega-richer at the expensive of the environment, civil liberties and the undeveloped world. This explanation is about as believable as the Brookings Report which insinuated that UFO truth would cause humanity to stop going to church on Sunday and turn the world in to one non stop Woodstock festival.
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    I've been badgering the Navy for years. Filed requests to every test range in the United States, they stated no records for certain periods of time, or their systems for surveillance of their restricted or prohibited airspace are not designed for objects with no transponders.
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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    The UAP task Force in 2020 with the recent DoD report 2021 is included in the French organisation 3AF summary report.

    Important French release TECHNICAL COMMISSION SIGMA 2 – Progress Report 2021 Summary.
    Good Introduction and Mandate.

    “Nevertheless, SIGMA2 tried to make a preliminary cross-checking between the electromagnetic observables of different phenomena. We compared the radiation emitted by plasmas (bluish radiation from atmospheric nitrogen plasmas) with recordings of electromagnetic signals at 3 GHz (US records). We were also able to observe electromagnetic disturbances on electronic equipment (on the ground or in flight) or even observed the effects induced by microwaves on the natural environment (soil, vegetation) or on humans. These overlaps raise many questions about their origin.”

    There is a correlation where frequency information was provided is the RB-47 i.e. this is the RB-47 case:
    http://www.nicap.org/reports/RB47_Sparks_Ency.pdf
    On page 767-768, it provides the RF characteristics: 2995-3000 MHz, Pulse width 2 microseconds, 600 cps

    The Trans-en-Provence and Nancy cases that happened in the early 1980s in France had resulting plant damage from a UAP that French scientists analyzed chemically. Their contention was that the chemical change was consistent with exposure to microwave radiation.

    Also Jacques Vallee wrote in the books Confrontations and Dimensions.

    https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link....c_id=4375&fg=1

    https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link....pFzQFkgedshYts

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) also jumped into the UAP bandwagon for serious scientific investigations.

    https://thedebrief.org/worlds-larges...tVxC25zVWOvPQO

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) also jumped into the UAP bandwagon for serious scientific investigations.

    https://thedebrief.org/worlds-larges...tVxC25zVWOvPQO
    The Debrief staff writer Micah Hanks goes into detail about this development and more with Mr Church


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    Signature Management - The Key Term Everyone Overlooked in The UAPTF Report

    https://www.liberationtimes.com/home...ALhfd1DKnBvgZc

    There is a disconnect between Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) researchers and the Intelligence Community (IC), due to misunderstanding of how the IC works and what its mission actually is.

    There are lofty expectations and assumptions being made about the U.S. IC, which are not grounded in truth.

    When UAP become aware of our detection, they attempt to mitigate our efforts and or leave the area. When aircraft leave the area or when UAP feels that it can safely return to whatever it was doing, it does so.

    UAP do not know our aircraft are coming and therefore wait until the last minute to manoeuvre to temporary “safer” location by either changing elevation and or leaving the area completely.

    The UAP do not care we are coming and continues to do its “mission” until the very last possible opportunity, then manoeuvres to avoid detection.

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    UFOS: SHIFTING THE NARRATIVE FROM THREAT TO SCIENCE

    Lesley Kean sheds light on the fallacy of using pre-conceived notions by so called experts on the subject of UAPs.

    What stands in the way of the scientific community’s taking on the challenge of discovering if any UFOs are extraterrestrial?

    Scientists must become determined to understand this mystery of our universe, as they have done so many times before. A potential paradigm shift always meets with resistance, but we are now seeing a crack in the dam. According to Loeb, “We should be open-minded to the possibility that science will one day reveal a reality that was previously considered as fiction.”

    https://thedebrief.org/ufos-shifting...Q_k1_saKvhsdZ8

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    Our first contact with aliens will be with a superior civilisation say NASA scientists as they narrow the hunt


    Extraterrestrial life may be purple:

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.l...lien-life.html

    Even the first life on earth may have been purple,

    take it or leave it 🤫🥳

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    Army Confirms Testing UFO Debris; Secrecy May Loom For Years About Results.

    Its 2 years since the announcement that both the US Army and TTSA were examining UFO debris.

    The Black Vault sent a FOIA request in August 2021 and got an answer on 21st August to this initiative.

    • It remains unclear whether this CRADA, which excited many, will produce results that are given to the public.

    • From the standpoint of the U.S. Army, it will rely on numerous factors that will take years to determine.

    • From the standpoint of TTSA, they do not want to add any comment whatsoever.

    • Will the public ever get results, and will UAP debris possibly show through the scientific method an extraterrestrial origin?

    • We may just never get to know.


    https://www.theblackvault.com/docume...about-results/

    https://documents2.theblackvault.com...FA-21-0064.pdf

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    Quote George Knapp: Are you a Freemason?

    Tom DeLonge: Uh, Possibly.

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)


    The above was originally posted in the other UAP thread (comment, opinions & materials, thanks Exomatrix!) but I think it also belongs here because it says a lot who is behind the UAP “Disclosure” and what their intentions are. It is no wonder that they chose Tom DeLonge to represent them.

    This isn’t just about whether DeLonge is a Free Mason or not. In fact, the Youtube title is incorrect because when asked if he was a Mason DeLonge replied “Possibly!” This just shows how DeLonge wants to remain ambiguous, just like the people “disclosing” “UAP” want to remain ambiguous. Of course, Masons have long been interested in extra-terrestrial and paranormal issues and have played a role in researching and presenting them, and probably conceal them too. If you aren’t aware of this, look into the work of Richard Hoagland and how NASA is populated by Free Masons, as well as Jack Parson style magicians, and Paperclip Nazis.

    What is interesting about this interview is DeLonge talking about his music, and how it is filled with esoteric imagery, but he really doesn’t want his fans to know about this. He just wants to the music to have an effect on their consciousness:

    Quote There's a lot of that [masonic] iconography associated with the band Angels and Airwaves. And it's hard to describe. ... We don't get into the descriptions and meanings of a lot of the symbology that we use. We let people kind of find out those meanings through the music and through the ethos of the band, through the pieces of art that we create, like the films and it's something that we don't really talk about specifically because I think that it's, you know, the treasure hunt is there for people to find as they get into the band and and look into what it is we're trying to do with the music and with the films.
    Or more likely, the fans don’t notice the symbolism, don’t find the “treasure”, but ideas are implanted in their heads and have a subliminal influence on them.

    DeLonge then goes on to talk about how masonry is about “free thinking man.” But can one truly be free if there are unseen forces working on you, affecting your subconscious in an irrational way. Isn’t that a deterrent to free thinking? Isn’t that mind control?

    In 2004 DeLonge campaigned for and traveled with John Kerry during his presidential campaign, and experience which he stated “really changed [me].” [###] John Kerry was a member of Skull & Bones, the shadowy secret society located at Yale University. With the nexus of secret societies and political power, one can be sure that there were more members of mason type societies tagging along. Is this when DeLonge encountered Free Masonry? Is this what “really changed” him?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_De...trepreneurship

    In 2007 John Kerry spoke at the University of Florida and a
    student asked him if he was a member of Skull & Bones. The
    police instantly arrested and tasered the student.


    How did Tom DeLonge make connections to Pentagon, CIA and other officials who were working on the UAP issue? Was it through his masonic associates? Masonic groups know a lot about their members, their character and their personality. Their rituals reveal quite a bit about how one reacts in circumstances while under stress and masonry has many teachings about the world’s cosmological secrets and instruction about when and how the secrets can and should be revealed. Perhaps Tom DeLonge said all the right things in the Masonic lodges and adhered to those principles in his music making, and that may have opened the doors of UFO deep state secrecy to him?

    Most artists and musician’s put their life into their work to tell their truth, and are usually quite open about these parts of there lives. But there is an important part of DeLonge’s life that informs his music that he doesn’t want to talk about, and his music is meant to affect listeners in ways that are not rational, and he doesn’t want to say much about that either. Is DeLonge someone we should be trusting to tell us about a greater cosmological reality? And he represents other unnamed individuals who also bear these secrets, individuals who carefully selected DeLonge as their spokesman. Should we be trusting them?

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    • Air Force Says It Will Defend US Against UFOs:
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    BREAKING NEWS - Unconfirmed Preliminary Report
    UAP TASK FORCE TO BE DISMANTLED - but replaced by a permanent body

    The nature of how news on the net gets broken is non-correlated but this YOUTUBE
    REPORT appears thorough enough to send out for your consideration.

    New Bill Proposal (not passed yet)

    Senate UAP Bill S.2610

    HIGHLIGHTS

    - Quarterly reports to Senate and Congressional committees and other
    ‘appropriate’ committees.

    - New UAP reports to be included.

    - Submission in classified form.

    - DNI shall make certain portions public.

    - Yearly and quarterly reports.

    - Mark Warner and chairs of other appropriate committees to receive UAP reports
    for the next 4/5 years.

    - Elevated to a larger entity.

    - Hearings may result.

    LISTEN TO THIS FIRST LEAKED SOURCE HERE:

    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 13th September 2021 at 12:04. Reason: embedded the video

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)

    FORMS NEW UFO OFFICE


    The US Government is on track to take a deep dive into the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon issue. A new amendment has been set in motion for a more complete and long-term investigation of UAP.

    Many observers consider this the strongest political response by the US government in 75 years.

    Representative Ruben Gallego (Democrat, AZ) authored the amendment that bears his name. In a formal press release about the new amendment Gallego said,"My amendment creates a permanent office at DoD to comprehensively evaluate these UAPs, and I’m proud to announce its inclusion in the House version of the NDAA.”

    UFO DAYS REPORTS

    [Excerpt]

    "An important amendment to the House version of the National Defense
    Authorization Act (NDAA) concerning UFOs and Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon
    (UAP) has been approved. Outside of secret projects and clandestine DoD
    programs, this follow-up to the June 2021 Intelligence Committee report is the
    first major incentive to reckon with the UFO phenomenon since the Air Force
    ended Project Blue Book in 1969. Speaking from a UAP conference in San Marino,
    former Pentagon insider and UFO whistleblower Luis Elizondo explained, “The
    National Defense Authorization Act is basically the directive by congress to the
    Department of Defense saying ‘Thou shalt do something if you want to get paid.’
    So it’s a big deal.”

    It does look like a big deal.

    Representative Ruben Gallego (Democrat, AZ), Chairman of the Subcommittee on
    Intelligence and Special Operations, authored the amendment that bears his name.
    In a formal press release about the new amendment, Gallego explained the scope
    and intention of the new mandate, “It is in the national security interest of
    the United States to know what is flying in our skies. Whether emerging tech
    from strategic competitors and adversaries or aerial phenomena from unknown
    origins, our military must have a full intelligence picture and the tools to
    respond quickly to these potential threats. My amendment creates a permanent
    office at DoD to comprehensively evaluate these UAPs, and I’m proud to announce
    its inclusion in the House version of the NDAA.”

    READ THE ENTIRE STORY and THE TEXT OF THE AMENDMENT AT:

    https://ufodays.net/2021/09/13/ndaa-...G9wbZVTRS6Mjms

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    Finally the dam is breaking.

    I got a private mail today as I am a citizen of the EU.

    For those of you not familiar with EU bodies. General Claudio Grazano is chairman of the European Union Military Committee.

    We now have a statement from him stating " UAPS are critical events"

    This is amazing! This breakthrough is the start of what is needed from the EU.

    This was hoped for considering all the US activities in the last few days of setting up a UAP office.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    For those of you not familiar with EU bodies. General Claudio Grazano is chairman of the European Union Military Committee.

    We now have a statement from him stating " UAPS are critical events"

    Interesting. This is not the first time that Claudio Graziano's name has appeared on our forum. There are allegations that he was involved in ballot fraud in the 2020 U.S. election. I don't see any actual evidence to back that up, but the allegations are our there.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1405054

    I have to think of John Podesta who seemed to have been destined to play a major role in gov't disclosure, and then Wikileaks put out his emails that had references to "spirit cooking" dinners and "pizza related maps."

    If and when the UAP dam collapses, I think there will be some other secrets that will come out that aren't UAP/UFO related.

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    There are some very interesting new UAP articles on the UFOs Scientific Research blogspot
    https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/
    You Can't Talk and Listen at the Same Time

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    SAN MARINO COULD BECOME THE U.N.’S NEW “GENEVA” FOR UFOS

    Excerpt - "The driving force behind this initiative is Project Titan. Project Titan is two different international organizations, the Italian-based Centro Ufologico Nazionale (CUN) and the recently formed International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER)."

    Go to: https://thedebrief.org/san-marino-co...neva-for-ufos/

    "Project Titan", an international consortium wants to try and take the UAP conversation globally.

    High level media takeaways from the article

    • "Project Titan," an international consortium is taking the discussion even further by making UAP a topic of global discourse.

    • San Marino could become the "Geneva" of UFOs and host nation for a United Nations. A World Conference dedicated to the study of unidentified aerial phenomena.

    • "In its contemporary form, the UAP/UFO phenomenon manifests itself for at least 70 years with pretty much the same characteristics all over the world and continues to remain a mystery," Project Titan manager, Paolo Guizzardi, told The Debrief. "If we really want to advance in the knowledge of the phenomena, an open and collaborative international cooperation is indispensable."

    • Behind Project Titan is two different international organizations, the Italian-based Centro Ufologico Nazionale (CUN) and the recently formed International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER).

    • Representatives from CUN and ICER gave a presentation to officials from the Republic of San Marino, requesting as a U.N. member state, San Marino to present the Office of the U.N. Secretary-General with a proposal for the creation of a permanent structure within the United Nations tasked with the organization of a periodic World Conference on UAP.

    • In presentation documents provided to The Debrief, organizers highlighted four primary reasons it is significantly necessary to have a United Nations-backed initiative on unidentified aerial phenomena.

    1. Need for research: although more than seventy years have passed since the first UAP sighting of the contemporary era, the phenomenon persists, and its origins and nature remain shrouded in mystery.

    2. The scale of the phenomenon: the manifestations of the UAP phenomenon are borderless, and there is a need to move beyond the phase of nationally based studies to a truly global dimension if such research is to be successful.

    3. Very high potential at the scientific level.

    4. Very high potential for technological spin-off.

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    'A total lack of focus': Lawmaker on a mission to compel Pentagon to take UFOs seriously.


    Those who want to know if the truth is out there have a new champion in Congress. And he has an urgent message for the Pentagon: it's time to take UFOs seriously.

    Arizona Democrat and Iraq War veteran Rep. Ruben Gallego this week pushed through legislation in the House requiring a permanent office under the secretary of Defense to oversee "the timely and consistent reporting" of what the military calls "unidentified aerial phenomena." And it must share what it learns with Congress at least once a year.


    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...WckOLXvmTFVB-s

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    Default Re: The UAP Task Force: is this 'disclosure'?

    Yet another congressional committee has advanced language to mandate greater sharing of data on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena within the Executive Branch.

    On Sept. 30, 2021, the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the U.S. House of Representatives approved, on a voice vote, its version of an Intelligence Authorization Act (IAA) (H.R. 5412) for Fiscal Year 2022. It contains language on UAP similar (but not identical) to that proposed by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in its version of the bill (H.R. 2610) in early August, on which I have previously reported here. Neither the House nor Senate has yet taken up the committee-approved IAAs.

    A press release issued by the House Intelligence panel said that the bill itself was approved by "a bipartisan voice vote." The release listed the UAP provision as among the "significant bipartisan Committee priorities" contained in H.R. 5412.

    here is a quote in full the committee's characterization of its UAP language:

    "Persistent Pursuit of Unexplained Aerial Phenomena. Following a bipartisan oversight hearing on Unexplained Aerial Phenomena, the bill is carrying a bicameral provision mandating intelligence sharing with the Department of Defense’s UAP task force. The provision will ensure that the task force will be able to fully draw on all classified reporting about UAPs as they continue to investigate this mysterious threat to U.S. airspace and our military forces."

    The pertinent text of H.R. 5412 would mandate that "each element of the intelligence community with data relating to [UAP] makes such data available immediately to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, or successor entity, and to the [USAF] National Air and Space Intelligence Center." The Senate committee's version says "each element of the intelligence community and the Department of Defense..." (italics added for emphasis) Both the House and Senate IAA versions would require quarterly classified reports to the House and Senate armed services and intelligences committees.

    This is the first time that the House Intelligence Committee has taken overt action on the UAP issue.

    It should be noted that the House Intelligence Committee-approved language is substantially narrower and less ambitious than that already approved by the full House of Representatives on September 23 as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (H.R. 4350), on which has been previously reported on a post here. The Senate is expected to take up its own version of the NDAA (S. 2792), which currently contains no UAP language, before the end of the year. Differences in the two NDAA versions will then be negotiated.

    While the NDAAs and IAAs are both important, the NDAAs may turn out to be the more important bills to watch on this matter. The NDAA always becomes law (60 years running), while the IAA sometimes has a rougher time. Sometimes the IAA ends up hooked to the NDAA locomotive, sometimes not.

    Bottom line: Many steps remain, and it remains unclear what UAP language will make it into law when this complicated four-bill process is completed. But, it is encouraging that multiple congressional panels are now openly backing enactment of explicit UAP-related mandates for the Executive Branch, and without apparent partisan divisions on the subject.

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