Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Sirius White (here)
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BTW, onyx nails some things...

Hi Sirius White


I appreciate you pointing on my input here, but I'm afraid you may have misinterpreted some of it?


When I was talking about Nibiru I said that it was a planet that was capable through advanced technology to travel in space, independent of a stellar parent's gravity. The "Nibiruans", constructed gateways/stargates (whatever you feel comfortable calling them) on several planets, the most recent one being on Earth. Earth didn't have enough gold deposits (even though compared to many planets out there, significantly rich in it), so its logical they would annex other planets they deem gold-rich and create or enslave local labor force that would view them as "gods". There are several besides our own, I know one is a planet that today is situated in the direction of the Centaurus constellation, and one may well be in the Virgo constellation (I remember taking notes on a contact session that after they left the Solar system some millions of years ago for the first time since their arrival, they went in the direction of space we associate with the constellation Virgo today, they remained there a long time until the events that lead to the colony wars that happened here in our planetary system, pointing to the fact that it was a star system that wasn't too far away, otherwise it would have gone to a different constellation by that time, since stars move in space, some more faster, some slower etc., those nearer for the most part move more slowly - just an optical effect)


These "stargates" should be situated in cities, or whatever dwelling places the local enslaved beings would inhabit. With us, it happened to be a city in the Middle-East, that some say bore the name Nibiru /Nibru. The gate is said to be connected to the "underworld" - true - but this was not some paranormal / astral plane / other dimension etc. Its the underground of the planet in question, which at the same time is the actual dwelling place of the "gods". So at the same time, its the "underworld" and the "heaven". The "Nibiruans" among many other physical characteristics, have a very, very chalk-white skin. This is consistent with scientific reasoning that things like this could result from prolonged habitation without any sunlight. Their world is not bound by a star, and they also live in the underground, so that's what results. I'm not dissecting your theory on oscillating, pulsating, vibrating, "inner" and "outer" spaces. That may very well be, and its possible we hold similar view on that, just that I would explain it in different manner. But I guess its the same thing. Just that, this in my opinion, has nothing to do with Nibiru or the ETs living there.

[Eric J (Viking)]

This seems to be doing the rounds...I recently picked up a book titled Hercolobus.! I often wondered about this..?!

Nibiru is now Perihelion to our Sun The Trumpet…: http://youtu.be/aEPJQcMaYjM

Viking

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Snowflower]

Whenever someone gives a date, especially many months or years ahead, for a massive calamity, I discount it completely. It's coming, there is no doubt. But no one knows, or will know, the hour, day, month, or year. Nor do they know the exact cause: Economy, food, grid, rare metals, water, or phosphorus collapse;war, pandemic, earth changes, Nibiru, ice age - any or all. My personal definition of SHTF time for me and mine is that day when we can no longer go to the grocery store to buy food, either from inflation to the point of no money for food, or any cause that prevents us from driving to the store and shopping. But the date? No one will know until it happens.

[Operator]

Posted by viking (here)
This seems to be doing the rounds...I recently picked up a book titled Hercolobus.! I often wondered about this..?!

Yes, interesting subject. There is a lot of different material/sources pointing to more or less the same direction ...
And as they say ... where there's smoke there usually is a fire. So reason to investigate.

But on the other hand if you know that people are aware of that you can use it to trick them into your agenda.

Posted by viking (here)
Nibiru is now Perihelion to our Sun The Trumpet…: http://youtu.be/aEPJQcMaYjM

As I said interesting subject, because if true it's going to ruin our day ...

But I'm very skeptical about this. I have always wondered why there would be an
object close to our sun all the time. If we (earth) rotate around our sun the
position should change like it does for all other planets in our solar system.
The following video mentions this problem and attempts to explain it:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=64Abxjn1FiM

I must say that Marshall Masters' material had the least alarmist material thus far.
Not trying to sell survival stuff etc. His material looks convincing but also a bit
too sophisticated for a private/civilian undertaking perhaps. And like the book of
Hercolubus, which is free and even shipped free (!), maybe delivered to your doorstep
a bit too easy.

I was wondering what other critical members here think about the explanation he gives
for the planet X system to be seen close to the sun all the time.

Besides I am trying to reproduce images like they often show with a 2nd planetary body
next to the sun. The presented ones seem authentic (no lens flares, or sun dogs) but
although I have clear skies and unblocked view of the setting sun almost each night
I am not able to reproduce it thus far.

So, what part of this is real and what is whipped up fear porn? In any case I don't
think that if it is real the planet X system would be at Perihelion (yet).

[Nick Matkin]

I'm not worrying about it. I've got a few friends with very good astronomy set-ups. They know what they're doing and run forums.

They say there may be 'something' way, way out there that just might be a brown dwarf orbiting the sun, but if so:

1) It's not even within a few light years otherwise its radiation would be detectable.

2) If it's a planet entering the solar system, it must be invisible as no one has detected it either by its reflected light or its gravitational pull on other planets.

What all these graphics do that 'demonstrate' this stuff is greatly exaggerate the relative sizes of the planets. In reality the solar system is like a dozen or so items rotating inside a football stadium, only they are the size of grains of sand, or the biggest may be a pea! Even something the size of a water melon is unlikely to bump into anything.

And why do people think these objects can be real just because someone, somewhere videos it on a cheap camera? A celestial object is not going to be visible from just one location now is it? An entire hemisphere would see it!

Come on folks, this stuff can't be covered up for ever by NASA. There are independent, non-aligned, amateurs looking for this stuff. They'd all love to be the first to confirm anything if it were there!

Nick

[Operator]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
I'm not worrying about it. I've got a few friends with very good astronomy set-ups. They know what they're doing and run forums.

They say there may be 'something' way, way out there that just might be a brown dwarf orbiting the sun, but if so:

1) It's not even within a few light years otherwise its radiation would be detectable.

2) If it's a planet entering the solar system, it must be invisible as no one has detected it either by its reflected light or its gravitational pull on other planets.

What all these graphics do that 'demonstrate' this stuff is greatly exaggerate the relative sizes of the planets. In reality the solar system is like a dozen or so items rotating inside a football stadium, only they are the size of grains of sand, or the biggest may be a pea! Even something the size of a water melon is unlikely to bump into anything.

And why do people think these objects can be real just because someone, somewhere videos it on a cheap camera? A celestial object is not going to be visible from just one location now is it? An entire hemisphere would see it!

Come on folks, this stuff can't be covered up for ever by NASA. There are independent, non-aligned, amateurs looking for this stuff. They'd all love to be the first to confirm anything if it were there!

Nick

Yep, I totally agree that being very skeptical in this case is a healthy approach ...

And normally when you see people selling survival stuff you know what their agenda most likely is. However in this case
I don't think Marshall Masters is in that game. So, if that isn't it then what else could there be why there is such a
concerted effort to make people believe this will be going soon?

Besides the astronomical elements I also have my doubts on other stories like the Annunaki needing gold to restore their
atmosphere ... Why would they stay on a dying planet while they have the technology to leave it and apparently they
are able to live here on earth as well?

However there are other elements that make you go hmmm ... Like Robert Harrington's story, meeting Zecharia Sitchin
and e.g. the IRAS history etc. etc. It's probably not all totally BS, something is smoldering ... what are they up to?

[Deega]

Here is a YouTube video of a anonymous (use Ken name) Astronomer from a Government Agency (didn't name) from SecureTeam, to the effect that he was able to decipher anomalies around Uranus and Saturn Planets, interesting!, I wonder if this is legitimate...?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JWCvt6t_54M

[citsym]

Posted by Deega (here)
Here is a YouTube video of a anonymous (use Ken name) Astronomer from a Government Agency (didn't name) from SecureTeam, to the effect that he was able to decipher anomalies around Uranus and Saturn Planets, interesting!, I wonder if this is legitimate...?

I find hard to believe in the size of the thing and why is the video still on YouTube if this is so secure. It also has 21,979 hits in one and a half days??? I doubt the truth of this video.

[Operator]

Well, checked the sun today (looking through a CD) while it was 15min. - 30 min. before setting. Clear skies, nothing
around it (like clouds) to block my view. There are NO extra objects ...

I've done this from time to time. I think it is theoretically impossible to see objects near the sun throughout the year
(or any substantial sustained period) and my observations (personal experience) confirm it.

I have to admit that I see anomalies in governments behavior worldwide that seems to point at a cosmological event
but I can't find theoretical or physical evidence to support it. I am open to the possibility that they only steer to a
make believe scenario which they will abuse to create havoc and then blame nature for it.

[Atlas]

Posted by Deega (here)
Here is a YouTube video of a anonymous (use Ken name) Astronomer from a Government Agency (didn't name) from SecureTeam, to the effect that he was able to decipher anomalies around Uranus and Saturn Planets, interesting!, I wonder if this is legitimate...?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JWCvt6t_54M

Debunked:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LWQFjd-16CE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x8EmV2UPhFs

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bAeCVsvHMq4

[najara12000]

This person has a different take on it and he's a Christian (maybe this was posted on PA somewhere?). You have to watch where he outlines what he is describing on the screen. Go through some of his earlier videos and he outlines the system on the screen for you to see it. I don't know but if anyone has any knowledge about this---would love to hear your responses regarding this YouTube User's analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/user/musicplyr1979

Planet X * Nibiru System (2014)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Anyone?? http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Mind_...ng_Strange.php

Viking

[Nick Matkin]

Looks like some sort of complex internal lens flare.

Even if it isn't a camera artefact, an astronomical body will be visible from more than just one location. The moon is very close astronomically speaking and everyone on earth can see that during a 24-hour period.

I don't think Nibiru is going to creep up on South Carolina, or anywhere else for that matter, without thousands of amateur astronomers the world over reporting it first.

Nick

[StandingWave]

Posted by viking (here)
Anyone?? http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Mind_...ng_Strange.php

Viking

Comment deleted as it was in reference to another thread! Apologies.

[BF88]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
✦ Machine Head - Locust "Music Video" (Illuminati Agenda & Bible End Days)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bU7qme80jj0

I'm a machine head fan, I couldn't believe it when I heard the lyrics to this. " Behind an angels disguise an insect preys " As in insect beings pretending to be angels or beings of light, something I have personally experienced although I never saw the "insect" they said they wouldn't show me their true form because I would be terrified by it. This being had me believe it was my mother so it kind of goes with what Simon Parkes speaks about.
When listening to the song for the first time my heart nearly stopped!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Who knows?

Noticed it was in the New York Times as well...


https://www.newscientist.com/article...15-GLOBAL-hoot

Viking

[Darla Ken Pearce]

I have heard but cannot verify more gloom and doom about Planet X/Nibiru is coming from Alex Collier.

Anyone listening to his radio interviews these days?

At present we are snowbound and having bandwidth problems, so unable to watch videos or follow many of the links. A hazard of living in a forest.

[TargeT]

Posted by Darla Ken Pearce (here)
At present we are snowbound and having bandwidth problems, so unable to watch videos or follow many of the links. A hazard of living in a forest.

Sounds like you need a new forest!

Mine does have ticks and mosquitoes though...

Not sure how much doom and gloom you can squeeze out of a predicted orbit that looks like this:


it won't come very close...


And remember, this ALL stems from this one sentence:

Mike Brown and Konstantin Batygin say that they have found evidence of “Planet Nine” from its effect on other bodies orbiting far from the sun

So really.... it's just a guess

The electric universe says there is no such thing as gravity, only electricity... (to me this is the most plausible model) this "observational guess" is based on "gravity"maths & could be totally flawed.


Soooo... not much here really other than a sensational title.

[Cidersomerset]

Case made for 'ninth planet'

By Jonathan Amos
BBC Science Correspondent


3 hours ago



Artist's impression of a ninth planet: Telescopes are sure to try to track down the object... if it really exists

American astronomers say they have strong evidence that there is a ninth planet in our Solar System orbiting
far beyond even the dwarf world Pluto.The team, from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), has no
direct observations to confirm its presence just yet.Rather, the scientists make the claim based on the way
other far-flung objects are seen to move.

But if proven, the putative planet would have 10 times the mass of Earth.

The Caltech astronomers have a vague idea where it ought to be on the sky, and their work is sure to fire a
campaign to try to track it down.

"There are many telescopes on the Earth that actually have a chance of being able to find it," said Dr Mike Brown.

"And I'm really hoping that as we announce this, people start a worldwide search to go find this ninth planet."


Read More....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35365323