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    Default What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    Why do some posters seem to favour posting videos of Jimmy Dore running through a story when simply finding the news item link would save everyone a whole heap of time.

    I can read an article in one to three minutes, depending on length/complexity. From there I can investigate further if I am sufficiently interested/concerned/doubtful etc.

    I'm certainly not about to sit through 15 - 30 minutes waiting to find out what Jimmy Dore thinks of it all.

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    I tend to feel the same way Ewan.
    But I also realize that individuals tend to learn and digest info best through their preferential, maybe innate modes. Some mainly prefer reading, others learn through listening, and some prefer hands on.

    In school, I would have happily completed all the classes just by reading the texts. Just give me the book! haha I tended to drift off during the lectures. But I had friends that simply couldn't absorb by reading, but digested and remembered spoken words perfectly.

    So, I figure it's a "different strokes for different folks" thing.
    Bill once suggested that we put the videos on double time settings, and can slow them down when we get to a juicy part. I do that often now!
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    I tend to feel the same way Ewan.
    Do see this thread, which was intended to be a friendly guide: (as well as an interesting member poll)
    Sometimes, it's a lazy option to just share a video, with little or no added comment, that one's just been notified about. I only share a fraction of the videos I'm aware of, or have watched, prioritizing ONLY what seem like the most significant or interesting.

    And if only part of a long video is relevant (any video over 15 mins is 'long' these days!), I always do my best to add a timestamp, advising where to start.

    Also see this thread — everyone is overwhelmed with information now.

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    • I am (almost) always multitasking and use videos that are longer than let's say 7 minutes do the dishes or cleaning up the room or picture-edit work etc. etc.
    In my view, Jimmy Dore is a master reacting & sifting through the mainstream media BS & Hypocrisies, he has a vast network of people sending him interesting stuff and I truly genuinely LOVE his sense of humor.
    • I take that ANY TIME above anything else, as most "conspiracy research experts" are way too serious and way too dry ...
    Sure you get (much) better content deeper insights from researchers like: Daniel Liszt (Dark Journalist), Dane Wigington (GeoengineeringWatch), Scott Ritter, Dr. Chris Martenson and many others like them ... and I really appreciate their efforts too ... But psychologically speaking I need to laugh as well otherwise I go insane!
    • It is very easy to get frustrated and thus becoming ridged and faster triggered if you (subconsciously) demand "perfection" from others.
    My "moon sign" is Virgo my Sun sign Aries that equals to: being an impulsive perfectionist, so I have to learn to let go if it does not fit in my expectations & needs "how others suppose to be" almost every day! ... After a while being that, I finally "get it" ... it is a different way of looking at things and learning how to focus on the good stuff without staying in a nagging mode.

    I do not have to agree with everything Jimmy Dore says, but overall I love to study different perspectives dealing with how the mass (brainwashing) media works and how to expose their tunnel vision narratives in a HUMOROUS (often more intelligent) way! <<< That's KEY why I can listen to him much more often and much longer than anyone else on the same topics.

    But here is the crux ... not everyone has the same sense of humor, thus "demanding" to be informed in a specific way and only "what is necessary" aka very pragmatic & functional way. And I get that.

    The choices of alleged "important topics" may also differ from person to person, not everybody cares so much what a comedian has to say about topic A or topic B or topic C etc. that is another subjective choice & personal issue!

    Nobody forces anyone to view or listen to stuff that has a particular style you do not like. >>> You will not be judged for not wanting to be informed that way. >>> But for others it may have the effect of having the necessary comical relief >>> which for me works very therapeutic, especially when it is (in my view) done in an above average intelligent way.
    • To summarize my point: I totally get it, why Jimmy Dore is not for everybody.


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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    In my case: He's funny. That's why.

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    In my case: He's funny. That's why.



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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    In my case: He's funny. That's why.
    Yes in my case also, I need all the help I can get to digest the incredible amount of bad news all around us.

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    He is my guilty pleasure. I am still blown away that a self described "comedian that smokes marijuana and does his show in his basement", with his tacky blue curtains in the background, has more people watching than CNN. He openly admits being vaccine damaged and since I don't watch any regular television, he gives a great editorialized perspective. I do realize it is his perspective of the news and that is fine, he doesn't hide that. I never get over the fact that he is one of the most energized, outspoken truthtellers out there. He has brought a great number of people to the reality that our traditional programming is a bunch of lies meant to imprison us into believing a narrative that is harmful to us. He is fearless, I love that about him. If it ever happens that truthtellers are arrested and imprisoned, and I don't see that as impossible, he will be one of the first to go. The guy seems fearless. I love the guy.

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    Lightbulb Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    Jimmy Dore admitted he was wrong and changed his mind and explained why he did that many times ... A lot of Avalonians may assume all liberal people stay the same forever <<< but that is a false assumption!

    Jimmy is very consistent opposing: lockdowns, facemasks, mandatory or semi-mandatory vaccines which he called "untested experimental mRNA injections violating all 10 of the Nuremberg Code of medical ethics" ... Exposing the FALSE PCR Tests with evidence ... Jimmy called out Big Pharma from day 1 since the Covid Hysteria! ... Jimmy called out censorship & big tech ... He also explained the difference between "Classical Liberalism" vs "Woke Neoliberalism" ... He challenged the insane Woke Paranoia of the left too ... He also allowed multiple "right wing" people to share their views/deeper insights on his show AND he allowed many Doctors who were censored to speak on his show ...He exposed Obama lies, Clinton lies, discussed Epstein multiple times ... He is against the War in Syria & Ukraine from day 1 ... Jimmy interviewed recently Prof. Dr. Mattias Desmet author of The Psychology of Totalitarianism ... He exposed ALL lies sold by the Biden Administration like: "Russia meddling elections" HOAX and so many other leftists lies ...

    I shared more than 300 Jimmy Dore videos last 3 years on Project Avalon Forum ... if you had your mind already made up about him and decided not to watch, you really missed tons of good reports!
    • Jimmy Dore is not afraid to discuss many different kinds of "conspiracy research" either (does not act dumb about it as so many mainstream talking heads do).
    • and yes, he can be critical about Trump too, if need be ... shouldn't we all?
    Jimmy also exposed multiple times: "Agenda 2030" - "Great Reset" - "Build Back Better" - "NetZero2050" WEF (World Economic Forum) Klaus Schwab ... Jimmy is highly critical towards: "The Green New Deal" & "Climate Change" Hysteria & Upcoming Orwellian Climate Lockdowns ... Jimmy discussed what happened in Canada 🇨🇦 & The Netherlands 🇳🇱 Truckers & Farmers Protests against the WEF Tyranny multiple times ... And so so much more!

    ... and I did not even share HALF of the reasons why Jimmy stands out in a very good way!

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    Lightbulb Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

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    Haha thanks, John! That's helpful. Yes, it appears that everyone likes to chew their food a little differently. You seem to like your information "pre-chewed" by Jimmy Dore. =D Sometimes, I get my information direct but do prefer to have it "pre-chewed" as well by a different cast of characters. Whatever works, right? We seem to be on the same page on most things so I think both of us are doing something right.
    For me personally (almost) nothing is "pre-chewed" as I already have my own network of sources, even beyond Avalon as I am 33 years active making alternative media (Radio & TV Amsterdam 1990-1998) ... Running my own server since 1999 creating multiple sites having over 24 hours of FREE conspiracy research videos material online long before VideoGoogle & YouTube existed) ... Created multiple big YT channels since 2007 onward with over 135,000+ subscribers combined (some big channels of mine were taken down due to censorship) ... Did 100s of radio & tv interviews, gave 80+ lectures in 5 countries, co-founder of 2 Magazines, co-organized multiple sold out conferences with some help from Nexus Magazine etc. etc. and because of all that I STILL get tons of intel from my "old network" >>> fellow conspiracy researchers that is beyond the Avalon Network.

    Even if I disagree with ANYONE, I still can find things very fascinating how others see things and why they talk/think/reason like that ... Jimmy Dore is very clear how he thinks and why he thinks a certain way ... I do not sense he is pushing a "hidden agenda" deliberately lying to his audience. And yes nobody is perfect including Jimmy Dore, but he allows to correct himself publicly if need be, which is rare in most cases dealing with high profile people.

    In my view/personal experiences, not everyone asks the right questions / create better questions in the "alternative media networks" world ... Jimmy positively surprised me often enough how he questions things that are very similar questions I have ... that, among others, is why I appreciate him ... But Jimmy is not the "basses" how I form my opinion nor do I need him for that because for most of it I already did via my own network of research. No "pre-chewed" issues at all here.
    • On a pure psychological level, I love to analyze/study the comments below Jimmy Dore's videos to see how the "level of awareness" is of "the common people" but also fellow "conspiracy researchers" and BOTH are getting better at it to my surprise!
    I see also way too many "side-line conspiracy researchers" refusing to watch Jimmy Dore not willing to adjust their views of how the masses are changing their "awareness level" adding new contributions as a whole ... too many seem bittered to me, frustrated, chronically pessimistic, becoming ridged, dogmatic, permanent sarcastic, doom thinkers, projecting their own incompetence (to be more creative & uplifting) on others etc. etc.

    Thanks to the 1000s comments section below Jimmy Dore Youtube videos, I am really positively surprised ... Why? ... because I started in 1990 analyzing/studying how people react/behave and see the progression how it was in the early 1990s then 2000s then 2010s and now 2020s.

    As you can see, it is not that "one dimensional" why I appreciate Jimmy Dore efforts and his input to me is just a tiny fraction!

    @Pris, please study also this response of mine to fully see the bigger picture where I am coming from and how I perceive things in a specific way ... That would be great and thanks in advance if you do

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    I tend to feel the same way Ewan.
    But I also realize that individuals tend to learn and digest info best through their preferential, maybe innate modes. Some mainly prefer reading, others learn through listening, and some prefer hands on.

    In school, I would have happily completed all the classes just by reading the texts. Just give me the book! haha I tended to drift off during the lectures. But I had friends that simply couldn't absorb by reading, but digested and remembered spoken words perfectly.

    So, I figure it's a "different strokes for different folks" thing.
    Bill once suggested that we put the videos on double time settings, and can slow them down when we get to a juicy part. I do that often now!
    Jimmy Dore remained me one high school Professor who teach us 4 different subjects. one of them was Art History.

    Talking about Ancient Greek and Rome he caught our attention with "private" stories from the Cesar's , etc.
    The orgies, bacchanals, and so on...we laugh a lot, and then got ya!... he began with hard teaching stuff. you never forget that!

    What Jimmy Dore "teach" is old news for must avalonians, I never heard something new, but its the way "how" he present that...

    For his public viewer(infantilized U.S. folk mainstream consumer) is a good way to
    get through the real "bad" news...

    And they will never forget that!
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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

    A few points in defense of Jimmy Dore as a news source:
    • His videos are about 75% information (at least) and 25% comedy (at most). For the time I spend listening to his videos, I do feel well educated. It's a good investment of time.

    • His encapsulations of many news stories are the best, mostly focusing on the most relevant information.

    • There are news clips in his videos that I have not seen any where's else.

    • He makes Stephen Colbert like a hollow empty old man. Although Dore is much older is Earth years, he has a vitality and integrity that's extremely youthful.

    • He does a great job of giving us a few laughs and he documents the absurdity and horror of our times.

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    Default Re: What is it with the Jimmy Dore Show?

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    That's great John, thanks for sharing. I still think that what I said holds since I was referring mostly to the one video Jimmy made stating Trump is nothing more than a "talk show host" and a "clown nose on Clown World".
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    I always watch out for Deep State tools and 80/20 disinfo agents...
    .....
    If something doesn't pass "the smell test", I say so. I think I've only seen maybe three or so of Jimmy's videos to date because they're showing up here on Project Avalon lately thanks to people like you sharing them -- and I do appreciate that. It all helps to keep me on my toes. I really know very little about Jimmy (never even assumed he was a "Liberal") and simply shared my impression of him based on his (most recent?) description of Trump.
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    I'm being exposed to many new things, and Jimmy Dore happens to be one of them. I will always criticize things that don't seem right to me, it's nothing personal.
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    Haha thanks, John! That's helpful. Yes, it appears that everyone likes to chew their food a little differently. You seem to like your information "pre-chewed" by Jimmy Dore. =D Sometimes, I get my information direct but do prefer to have it "pre-chewed" as well by a different cast of characters. Whatever works, right? We seem to be on the same page on most things so I think both of us are doing something right.

    For me (almost) nothing is "pre-chewed" as I already have my own network of sources, even beyond Avalon as I am 33 years active making alternative media (Radio & TV Amsterdam 1990-1998) ... Running my own server since 1999 creating multiple sites having over 24 hours of FREE conspiracy research videos material online long before VideoGoogle & YouTube existed) ... Created multiple big YT channels since 2007 onward with over 135,000+ subscribers combined (some big channels of mine were taken down due to censorship) ... Did 100s of radio & tv interviews, gave 80+ lectures in 5 countries, co-founder of 2 Magazines, co-organized multiple sold out conferences with some help from Nexus Magazine etc. etc. and because of all that I STILL get tons of intel from my "old network" >>> fellow conspiracy researchers that is beyond the Avalon Network.

    I can appreciate what you are saying. Let me put it like this. I have reservations about Jimmy Dore. Maybe it's a combination of his personality and his "jokes". Maybe it's because I'm not his "target" audience. Maybe it's more than that. If you think he's been helpful at waking people up, great.



    . .Nobody's getting their info pre-chewed.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Got it.


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    That's great John, thanks for sharing. I still think that what I said holds since I was referring mostly to the one video Jimmy made stating Trump is nothing more than a "talk show host" and a "clown nose on Clown World".
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    I always watch out for Deep State tools and 80/20 disinfo agents...
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    If something doesn't pass "the smell test", I say so. I think I've only seen maybe three or so of Jimmy's videos to date because they're showing up here on Project Avalon lately thanks to people like you sharing them -- and I do appreciate that. It all helps to keep me on my toes. I really know very little about Jimmy (never even assumed he was a "Liberal") and simply shared my impression of him based on his (most recent?) description of Trump.
    .....
    I'm being exposed to many new things, and Jimmy Dore happens to be one of them. I will always criticize things that don't seem right to me, it's nothing personal.
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    Haha thanks, John! That's helpful. Yes, it appears that everyone likes to chew their food a little differently. You seem to like your information "pre-chewed" by Jimmy Dore. =D Sometimes, I get my information direct but do prefer to have it "pre-chewed" as well by a different cast of characters. Whatever works, right? We seem to be on the same page on most things so I think both of us are doing something right.
    For me (almost) nothing is "pre-chewed" as I already have my own network of sources, even beyond Avalon as I am 33 years active making alternative media (Radio & TV Amsterdam 1990-1998) ... Running my own server since 1999 creating multiple sites having over 24 hours of FREE conspiracy research videos material online long before VideoGoogle & YouTube existed) ... Created multiple big YT channels since 2007 onward with over 135,000+ subscribers combined (some big channels of mine were taken down due to censorship) ... Did 100s of radio & tv interviews, gave 80+ lectures in 5 countries, co-founder of 2 Magazines, co-organized multiple sold out conferences with some help from Nexus Magazine etc. etc. and because of all that I STILL get tons of intel from my "old network" >>> fellow conspiracy researchers that is beyond the Avalon Network.
    I can appreciate what you are saying. Let me put it like this. I have reservations about Jimmy Dore. Maybe it's a combination of his personality and his "jokes". Maybe it's because I'm not his "target" audience. Maybe it's more than that. If you think he's been helpful at waking people up, great.


    . .Nobody's getting their info pre-chewed.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Got it.


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    To a degree everybody gets "pre chewed" information even if it is "raw data" as how many can say I was not directed towards it ... or somebody told me "this is important" and who decides? ... Why it is important? ... In what context? ... and what are the assumptions based upon?

    I can see/extrapolate the core-information separate from the messenger when the "messenger" is sharing anything with me ... Any "spin" given in "how to interpret things" often goes along with decades of programming & conditioning almost everyone received ... and yes I can (after 33 years of full time conspiracy research) also see beyond the mass programming & conditioning and STILL relate to it why people talk a certain way and think certain way ... that does not mean I have to "go along with it" nor do the same as they do ...

    Just because I appreciate certain (conditioned) messengers does not mean I have to blindly accept all their interpretations, to me that is a given ... So to consider multiple perspectives is certainly NOT the same as blindly assuming it is "all correct" nor assuming they are "the best interpretations" >> there are always others who may do it better.

    But who decides "who is better" and why? ... Just because you think what is best for you does not mean it is a "perfect template" for everybody ... As I wonder if there is anybody who really understand how I work ... So many assumptions without realizing it is not about "what others think or not" nor "what others do or not with it" ... What works for me does not have to work for you and vice versa.

    Some basics of how I work, dealing with controversial issues:

    • Discernment-skills can never be spoon-fed ... it has to be practiced through "trail & error" my whole life!
    • Willing to learn from my mistakes and move on!
    • Taking full responsibility for my quality of thinking & reasoning.
    • Never using the: "authorities (of any kind) told me how to think, so I am not to blame" rhetoric.
    • If you can do all that, you do not have to blindly "follow" nor hide behind anyone.
    Having these basics & common sense, you still can appreciate multiple perspectives & perceptions ... To consider alternative points of view does not make you a (blind) "believer" nor a (blind) "follower" ... you just chose to expand your awareness and broaden your horizon of possibilities to chose from, if need be ... No "tunnel vision" agenda here!



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    . .Nobody's getting their info pre-chewed.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Got it.


    To a degree everybody gets "pre chewed" information even if it is "raw data" as how many can say I was not directed towards it ... or somebody told me "this is important" and who decides? ... Why it is important? ... In what context? ... and what are the assumptions based upon?

    ....

    But who decides "who is better" and why? ... Just because you think what is best for you does not mean it is a "perfect template" for everybody ... As I wonder if there is anybody who really understand how I work ... So many assumptions without realizing it is not about "what others think or not" nor "what others do or not with it" ... What works for me does not have to work for you and vice versa.

    My original criticism of Jimmy Dore was based on the video where he called Trump a "game show host" and "the clown nose on a clown society". I "pre-chewed" that video for other people who may be curious what MY reaction was and what I thought that might mean for Jimmy's videos in general. The whole point is that I'm sharing my opinion. It doesn't matter if anyone wants my opinion, I'm going to give my opinion anyway.

    I do get where you're coming from and appreciate it. However, you say that you, "...wonder if there is anybody who really understand how I work." Do you really want people to understand? You've explained yourself very well, but, speaking for myself, I will never stand under any of it.



    Oh hey!
    Here's somebody's reaction...

    . . . . ....after watching the Styx FBI SUPERSCANDAL video I just posted.


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    I would also like to thank Jimmy Dore (@jimmy_dore) for playing my reading to Dr Pierre Kory (@PierreKory) when he was on The Jimmy Dore Show, as this powerful poem urgently needs to be heard by a wider audience. "That's like the third time I've seen that now. It is very powerful," Dore admitted after playing my reading of '#MistakesWereNOTMade: An Anthem for Justice .

    Jimmy: "So, how do we hold someone accountable? I don't think there is a way, what do you say?"

    Pierre: "First I want to say, that is an extremely powerful piece. Every single sentence happened and is true. All of those things happened. People carried them out. Some maybe as unwilling low-level bureaucrats who just follow orders, but certainly there were people who knew exactly what they were doing and what they wanted to have happened." "I mean, they have the agencies, they have the journals, right? They have the politicians... do they have the courts? So, one of my hopes is maybe, maybe we can find some [justice] ...

    I'm sick of being the doctor calling foul from the sidelines, you know, I've been saying for a long time, it's time for the judges, the prosecutors, and hopefully the jail and the prisons. But I don't know that that's going to happen because they might even have the courts, and of course, may not be willing to expose and actually bring to justice all those who perpetuated these things."

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