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    Just sat and read through all quote-images posted by you Pilutaq. Thank you so much for this, I really needed it today.

    Love Alex Collier.

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    Default Re: Interesting Quotes From Alex Collier

    Just throwing this out there.
    But,,,,

    Alex Collier is regurgitating the Billy Meier material and is a complete phony.

    If you want to go on a ride and hear some absolutely pertinent information you should check out Billy Meier.

    My suggestion would be to read Wendell Stevens book UFO contact from the Pleiades.
    I'm sure it's in the Avalon library.

    By the way, Alex Collier owned this book.

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    Default Re: Interesting Quotes From Alex Collier

    If you say that Alex is copying Meier's information. Where does Meier talk about the soul in a way Alex talks about it?
    If you have read the Letters From Andromeda they are quite different from Meier's information. Michael Horn did his best to make Alex look bad and kind of made it trendy to post such things on the internet. We could go on and on till it gets very ugly with this but this is not why I make these 'memes' and if you don't like them that's fine but I would suggest you make your own thread

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    Quote Posted by Pilutaq (here)
    If you say that Alex is copying Meier's information. Where does Meier talk about the soul in a way Alex talks about it?
    If you have read the Letters From Andromeda they are quite different from Meier's information. Michael Horn did his best to make Alex look bad and kind of made it trendy to post such things on the internet. We could go on and on till it gets very ugly with this but this is not why I make these 'memes' and if you don't like them that's fine but I would suggest you make your own thread
    Okay.
    But getting nebulous about the soul is pretty easy to do.
    Plenty of folks have done a far better job.
    Collier struck me as a guru wanna be in the mold of Corey Goode long before I heard of the Micheal Horn news.
    But,,,
    When Horn stated that his first introduction to Billy Meier was a copy of Wendell Stevens "UFO contact from the Pleiades" from none other than his friend who we know as Alex Collier,,,, you have to admit that's pretty crazy.

    Alex reads Meier then all of a sudden becomes a contactee himself?
    The sad thing is that the fake Collier is more well known than the legit Meier.

    I'm guessing because Meier promotes ideas not to popular like the world's number one problem is over population and that humans need to learn self control and fix their problems, that no one is going to save them from them selves.

    No on wants to hear over population is a real problem.

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    How do you know that Alex read that book and made his book? Do you know him that well
    Your claims has holes in it. Obviously you have not gone through Alex's story, his story with The A's started when he was a kid. Meier acted in a way that he was the only contactee which tells me something about him. Alex has beautiful messages and you have not been paying attention or done your research spend hours with his material but just seem to love to look down at him. And that whole trend thing was something Michael Horn wrote about on the internet while Alex was homeless and was ill, that tells me something about Mr Horn. You won't stop me making these memes.

    You haven't even made clear of what exactly Alex took from Meiers book.

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    Default Re: Interesting Quotes From Alex Collier

    The fact that Alex Collier isn't even the guys real name. It's Ralph Amagran.

    And now from Michael Horn the American representative for Billy Meier.




    Quote “Alex Collier”, who claims to be a “genuine, life-long, Andromedan contactee”, wrote the following “predictions”. This in itself is a nice trick since this fifty or sixty-something year-old fellow has only existed since about the early 1990s. Do the math.
    Before then he was known as Ralph Amagran, a former IRS agent, who, at the time that I first met him in 1986, was also unemployed and searching for something to do, or perhaps become. (He apparently found both in the creation of a new identity as “Alex Collier”.) It was Amagran who first presented me with the Contact Notes of Billy Meier, for which I remain grateful to this day.
    However, it is apparently this same amazing information of Meier’s that he plagiarized, in some cases, and that he based part of his false identity and life story on in order to make money and create a following…of very gullible people.
    Among these gullible, as well as overly ambitious, people is Dr. Michael Salla, one of the “leaders” of an equally fictitious area of study known as “exopolitics”. Salla himself is distinguished by having lost his academic status, job and work standing in the U.S. – according to information proudly provided by his cohorts at “exopolitics”. (No explanation is provided for why academia gave Salla such an unambiguous boot in the butt. Nor is there an explanation as to why his unequivocal expulsion warranted exopolitics’ bestowing on Salla an award for “Intellectual Courage”, based on the kind of professional denouncement that is usually, dare I say normally, considered shameful rather than praiseworthy.)
    Seemingly oblivious to the inconsistencies in “Collier’s” story, several years ago Salla defiantly offered the predictions below, as evidence of this same “Collier’s” genuineness. To this day, despite my numerous requests for him to either substantiate or defend this information, or admit that he was wrong to promote such an obviously delusional lunatic, Salla has stubbornly refused, perhaps in order to demonstrate the kind of irrationality, and/or incompetence, that resulted in his being not only unceremoniously expelled from an actually credible educational institution but also denied further employment in the field.
    Michael Horn

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    Default Re: Interesting Quotes From Alex Collier

    Again, no research to Alex's material before writing. Alex never said things were written in stone, so to speak. He presented them as the probabilities to the people. He also said that the probabilities could always change if we change but apparently some things have not changed as Michael Horn's writing's happened around 30 years ago. So what' if he changed his name? So what' if worked in the IRS, that is his personal stuff and he has dealt with them and has moved on. What matters is he did not monetize The A's materials. He is doing everything he can to make sure we as a humanity move on.


    Here is Alex's response to Michael Horn's claims and a statement by Michael Salla

    "Updated 2009 July 15:
    An Open Letter from Alex Collier

    July 14, 2009

    As many of you are aware, I am being bitterly attacked from the Billy Meier/FIGU camp, especially by their U.S. publicist, Michael Horn. I am being addressed as a liar and a fraud. Apparently, because I changed my name and at most times in my life during on going contacts, I chose to not share this reality with people who were acquaintances. Why would I? You also need to know that I have addressed this issue publicly in earlier lectures years ago. But maybe it’s necessary to deal with it for the last time.

    In the early 90's when I came forward, the talks were very small. More like living room chats, just a hand full of people. I stopped speaking in 2002. After being addressed in front of my mailbox by three well dressed men that were part of a "Program", I was told to "Shut the f*#@ up". I was then told that friends were going to be hurt if I did not shut up. The names were given to me. They were not kidding and it wasn't a joke. They were going to kill friends and family members.

    Fast forward the internet. I had no idea that the information would go where it has. In 1990 when Morenay had asked me to speak and share "some of my experiences" I reluctantly said yes. I spoke to my Dad regarding this. My dad had an experience of my contacts when we lived in upper state NY. We spoke of it that morning and as my Dad was a strong catholic, his questions were very direct. I felt that if I was going to speak he needed to know. Dad was afraid of what would not only happen to me but our family. My brothers and sisters, and himself by government and religious harassment, etc.... We spoke about using another name to share the information in some way to protect my family.

    At times in my life while contacts were on going it has been very difficult and hard to share it. I had a head full of knowledge, and experiences but could not share it. I was told that at those times there was no one I could truly trust. When I did not listen to the “Andromedans”, they would prove to be right. Supposed friends betrayed and stole from me. Enough said about that.

    I have shared the information that I was asked to. I don't sell anything. I was told by the Andromedans not to make a business of this in any way. And so I haven't. I have tried very hard to keep a low profile and protect my family from hurt and prejudice, by those who don't give a damn about my family. All they want is to keep their name in lights and beat their chest, by declaring they have the secret and they are the only ones with the truth. That Mr. Billy Meier is the only contactee in the entire world. That’s the lie, Ladies and Gentlemen. Billy is not and nor has he ever been the only one.

    I am very saddened that many researchers and authors who have found their own evidence to collaborate information shared by the Andromedans and other races are now being attacked for it. They are also accused of being involved in and perpetrating a fraud. Dr Salla, Paola Harris, and Col.Wendelle Stevens to just name a few. They have tirelessly dedicated themselves to helping humanity. Mr. Horn’s accusations are despicable.

    Paola Harris is one of the most honest and sincere persons on earth, whose integrity is beyond reproach. It’s disgusting that she should continue to be abused and harassed by this man only because she interviewed me. She was simply doing her job in the most objective way.

    Dr. Salla's efforts to help bring humanity together and see the bigger picture will have a profound effect on humanity in a positive way for decades. And I also feel that Dr Salla's honesty is beyond reproach.

    Col. Stevens, whom I met for the first time in Japan, is a real gentleman. He has tirelessly researched contactees for 50 years. His should be the only voice any of us listen to regarding who is a real contactee or not. And his work is probably the largest single contribution to humanity regarding Exopolitics. Point of fact.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I frankly at this point don't care if any of you believe or not. All the research, all of the sacrifices everyone in this field has made and will make is due to endless hours of lost family time, as well as the loss of family and peace of mind. And of course the ridicule from others, who have no clue how huge and important this subject really is. This has been and was done for humanity. This is for us as a race to have a new perspective, a new place to start when the lies of our false history collapse under the weight of truth, that we are not alone and have never been; a revelation that we are so much more than we have been told.

    The “lie” is that Billy Meier is the only contactee. And if the "Pleiadians" (excuse me) "The Plejarians" (they changed their name, too), told Billy he was the only one, then they have lied. You must keep this in prospective also as well. There are in fact many contactees in the world. I have been told that there are at least 1,407 at this present moment. You may be one of them yourself. I think we should continue to move forward and help humanity achieve its potential.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.

    I feel it’s necessary to add this last clarification for you. I have no vested interest in this information. And as such I really could care less what anyone thinks. My intention was to share the information and give a different prospective. I have had a lot of growth to go through and am now the father of five. I must put the welfare of my family first and move beyond this sideshow with FIGU/Michael Horn.

    I am done with this. Think what you will, but please keep your minds open. It’s the only way your life will work…

    Respectfully,
    Alex Collier

    Updated 2009 July 15:
    An Open Letter from Dr. Michael Salla regarding Alex Collier

    To all, below is a statement by Alex Collier concerning recent criticisms against him by Michael Horn. Horn's main criticisms are that Alex did not confide his childhood contact experience to Horn and others in the mid-to-late 1980s; changed his name prior to going public with his claims in the early 1990s; and has not provided hard evidence to support his claims. Alex satisfactorily responds to the first two criticisms and explains why he went silent in 2002 due to threats against family and friends. Such threats pertain to the release of hard evidence in favor of his claims. As a former human rights investigator and researcher, professional standards and ethics always need to be applied to witnesses of events whose retelling involves significant personal risk. Since Alex was then and still is a father with young children, I immediately accepted and respected his concerns. In my five year investigation of Alex's claims, I have found no evidence of fraud, and been privy to additional evidence in support of his claims that has not been made public.

    I find it ironic that Alex who has not sought to profit from his contact experiences, permits the free distribution of his information and has not encouraged a cult around himself, is attacked by someone who profits from the Meier material, bullies others into surrendering copyright ownership of Meier's photos, and actively promotes a cult movement around Meier as a modern profit; sorry, reincarnated prophet, Enoch/Henoch, Isaiah, Jesus/Jmannuel, Muhammed, etc. I find Horn's internet antics and unscrupulous attacks against Alex Collier and others as transparently directed towards promoting the Meier case. He is after all Meier's U.S. publicist.

    It is important that people like Alex are protected so they can safely share their material, rather than be hounded for not releasing information to the public that they sincerely believe would endanger family and friends. I stand by my earlier statements that Alex Collier is very credible and a man of great integrity whose friendship I value. For those interested in learning more about Alex Collier's experiences concerning a race of human looking extraterrestrials from the Andromeda constellation, I have created a page here with links, witness statements, video testimonies, and the results so far of my own ongoing investigation into Alex's remarkable claims.

    Aloha
    Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
    Kealakekua , Hawaii"


    We could go on and on with what happened who said this who claim that. What matters is what do we do with messages? Do we go around in loops or move on? If you cannot move on Mr DNA maybe create your own thread showing people of petty fights or bashing each other or whatever.
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    Default Re: Interesting Quotes From Alex Collier

    Here are some of Ralph Amagran I mean Alex Colliers predictions. Not one came close to being true.
    Meier on the other hand is amazingly accurate.
    Even what's on the horizon for Meier's predictions look very much possible if not likely.

    Here are some of Ralph's writings.
    The stuff sounds as if it's right out of a Corey Goode play book.

    Quote Seemingly oblivious to the inconsistencies in “Collier’s” story, several years ago Salla defiantly offered the predictions below, as evidence of this same “Collier’s” genuineness. To this day, despite my numerous requests for him to either substantiate or defend this information, or admit that he was wrong to promote such an obviously delusional lunatic, Salla has stubbornly refused, perhaps in order to demonstrate the kind of irrationality, and/or incompetence, that resulted in his being not only unceremoniously expelled from an actually credible educational institution but also denied further employment in the field.

    Michael Horn



    Now, for your reading pleasure, I present “Alex Collier’s” own words:

    I have information regarding mission children. If nothing else should make you angry, it should be that hundreds of thousands of children each year are vanishing from our planet.

    The moon is an artificial satellite brought here from Ursa Minor. It's hollow and operational, and it can pull out of here any time. Human beings from Earth have been there for at least 45 years. It started with the Germans, but primarily it was the Americans and the Russians. The Germans moved on to Mars.

    We are told that it is 4,200 miles in diameter. Morenae says that is an absolute lie, that it is 11,421 miles in diameter, and that our people know about this. (MH: WRONG!)

    When the extraterrestrials get here, sometime next year (1997) or the year after, when they physically land and they start showing themselves,

    This bridge is 21 miles long. You will see this same structure on Venus.

    See these structures. Ladies and gentlemen, this is where the New World Order is on the moon. This complex has 35,000 human beings from Earth in it, right now. These are living compounds. The Andromedans are very clear about this, because they want you to wake up.

    The monument, since the moon came from Ursa Minor, is Orion in origin. Now, our moon used to share an orbit with Phobos. Both of them are artificial satellites.

    Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.

    Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit.

    During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt.

    They said that somewhere around the beginning of December 2013, third density will implode. It will implode.

    According to the Andromedans, our physicality is the sum total of 22 different races that have come down here, spend the "weekend", messed with us and then took off and went home.

    Blue bloods: Their blood is copper-based. That's ET. OK?

    As most of you know, the "AIDS" virus was created.

    There is life as we speak on Uranus, right now. There's life. Plant life and animal life.

    Apparently we all had copper-based blood systems at one time. All of our physiology was based on copper. We were all "blue-bloods". We were all royalty.

    Even earth was moved from its orbit - twice. There is a possibility that they want to do it again. The "flood of Noah" was a result of the moving of earth from its original orbit. That is was caused it. We are talking about huge ships that can move planets. They have this technology.

    This aggression occurred against those on your worlds that included not only you Terrans, but also those called Niburu.

    Nibiru won, but only a short battle, before they and other outposts were forced to leave (the solar system) because of genetic damage. Your original races were green-skinned. This we know, because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood type (refers to the composite of human genetics which comprise genetic codes from 22 humanoid species).

    Your system contained three suns at that time. Only two remain (one is on the opposite side of the visible sun, and rotates in such a way that it is hidden from view from the perspective of the Earth).

    Your true (original) blood color was green, like your chlorophyll. Some, we have discovered, even had (blood of a) gold tint.

    The genetic changes were the result of radiation damage. Your race (skin color) went from green, to red (Native Americans, Egyptians and Mayans), to yellow (Asians), to black (Afro-Americans and Africans), and then to white.

    The red is the closest to the original form among you. Your physicality had a natural defense to positive and negative frequencies (due to the) copper mineral in your blood (resistance to electromagnetic variation). This lack (now) of copper in your blood has caused a partial loss of brain capacity and nervous system (capacity). Remember (that) your DNA contains cellular memory. It is possible to unlock this memory with (the) use of minerals such as copper. Your blood systems (are) adapted (now) to iron, because of copper depletion due to (ambient) radiation. We will share more, but we must return now.

    Some of the missing children on this planet have not only been taken by the Greys, by Orion, but also by the Pleaidians. Now, apparently in the systems in Aldebaran, there are human Terran colonies. The Pleaidians have taken human children from here.

    What's happening is that third density is beginning to implode because as the frequency of third density matter starts to rise, those that choose to evolve will pass out of here.

    There are other races, the Pleaidians for example, that in 982 years will start to show genetic breakdown, because of so much interbreeding.

    Whatever we do here on third density moving into fifth density, we will literally changes all the dimensions above us in a domino effect all the way up,

    The name "Gabriel" was the name of another fleet of craft, and so on.

    They will start with a magnetic pole shift, which could happen anytime between now and the year 2001.

    They have told all of the negative extraterrestrials in and on our planet, and the moon, to be out of here no later than August 12, 2003. I have also been told that there is a very high probability that we could wake up some morning in that area of time and our moon will not be there.

    That is because the moon is the first stage of defense, and that they will literally hit it with a tractor beam and pull it out of orbit if they are going to do battle.

    I am told that most of the dinosaurs were brought here, and to Mars, where they came first. Our current human form was crafted on Mars, where the primate and human genes were combined, and then brought to earth to work as slaves in the mines.

    They enjoy human flesh, and human children best, for two reasons. The first is that children don't have the accumulation of pollutants in their bodies that adults do, and when children are put into a state of fear, their energy and field and andrenylin just explodes. The reptilians get a "rush" from this stuff.

    And folks, there are bases on the moon that have been built by the United States, Russia and the British, using British money. I suggest you keep an eye on Prince Charles.

    Q: I am wondering if you could elaborate on the Draconians and Hale-Bopp a little bit.

    A: What I have shared is really all I know. I just know that life is going to be very different here. The media says it is a 'comet'. It's not a comet. I can tell you that it has split into two pieces, and both pieces are rotating around a common axis as its moving. I have heard, but not confirmed, that an astronomer has seen a large craft that is now flying alongside Hale-Bopp, that is larger than the earth. So, if it doesn't change course, its going to be great. All the denial will be gone.

    Q: Where is the second sun?

    A: It is behind the sun that we see. It is smaller than the sun we see and lies behind it. If you are standing on Mars, you see it, ok? Now, the reason our planet was moved is because the planet could not handle the radiation from two suns after the last war. So, they moved it. When I asked Morenae who moved the earth, his response was that it was something the Pleaidians had to answer.

    Val: I thought the basic concept was that we didn't need to be "saved" from anything - that how everything turns out, from the Andromedan perspective, is already a "done deal". We eventually "pass the test" and after 2003 everything is fine and the regressive tyranny is stamped out. I presume that is what is being inferred is that it is already a "done deal."? I mean,that's what is being inferred, isn't it?

    AC: Yes.

    AC: I wrestle with that one myself. I honestly don't know. Apparently, certain things are predetermined but other things are not, and their might be a time where they need to come in and help us.

    Val: That time would presumably be before or after August 12, 2003?



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    AC: Or, around August 12, 2003. Many of these groups here are the ones who will be involved. The Tau Ceti group has wanted to invade this planet already and go after not only some of the regressives, but more importantly factions of the United States government.



    AC: Well, there's more. They also found more than 1,000 human children that had been placed in cryogenic stasis, and over 1,000,000 of these little boxes that contained the life forces of souls from Earth.

    Val: Captured human souls.

    AC: Souls.

    Val: And what do they do with these souls?

    AC: They feed off the energy radiated by the souls. What they are doing, Val, is that they are taking the life force and they are somehow siphoning it off a little at a time and feeding it to the hybrids in order to keep them alive, trying to keep them alive and create a soul in them.

    Val: Meanwhile, what happens to the soul in the box?

    Val: What about us? We pass the test and those who do not go to fifth density create another 3rd density holographic reality to continue to play the game until they mature beyond that. In that light, what does happen to all of us?

    AC: My understanding is that all of us become teachers.

    Val: All of us?

    AC: Yes. We all go to different parts of physicality in fifth density.

    Val: And become teachers. Because of this experience we have had on Earth?

    AC: Yes.

    AC: Yes it would. The bottom line is that you won't know who you are or where you're going until you get there, and we're all going to be in that boat together.

    Val: How soon will that be?

    AC: It could be as early as April of 1997. It's probably going to be sooner, but April of 1997 I was told would be the highest probability.

    Val: That's about the time Hale-Bopp arrives.

    AC: Yes. Hale-Bopp will be here in February-March 1997.

    Val: So, a lot of other things will happen around the same time.

    AC: Yes.

    AC: Yes it would. The bottom line is that you won't know who you are or where you're going until you get there, and we're all going to be in that boat together.

    Val: How soon will that be?

    AC: It could be as early as April of 1997. It's probably going to be sooner, but April of 1997 I was told would be the highest probability.

    Val: That's about the time Hale-Bopp arrives.

    AC: Yes. Hale-Bopp will be here in February-March 1997.

    Val: So, a lot of other things will happen around the same time.

    AC: Yes.

    AC: But, there's a much higher agenda here. It obviously involves us as souls, but it also has to do with something that is very strategic about this solar system. I will tell you why so many people are interested in this solar system. We have some

    strange planets here. Not only is Earth unique because of all the life forms here, but according to Morenae, when we as Paa Tal came down from a higher density to inhabit these bodies in third density, we used a type of vehicle to travel from where we were to where we are now. A type of vehicle. They say that the planet Jupiter was the vehicle we used.

    Val: Which is also now a sun on fifth density.

    AC: Yes.

    Val: So, what happens next? Everything must turn out fine after 2003, because they're looking at from a position in time.

    AC: Yes. We're going to go through some stuff, and I don't know how its exactly going to play out, but they have said on more than one occasion that they are very proud of us in the end, as a race.



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    As Alex said, probabilities change as we change.
    Please make your own thread Mr DNA.
    We have moved forward from this a long time ago.
    All of this ET stuff is all about us and maybe we should not attack belittle gaslight each other.
    But you have all the right to do so, you can make this uglier but I can't understand, instead I focus
    on how Alex share information without using ego or attacking others because that's not what's it's about.
    This is totally waste of time and not worth spend time to if you had done your research

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    Heya DNA, - relating from my own experiences I'm guessing it took a lot of courage to post the suspicions you felt you needed to. I'm always grateful for suspicious voices. Pilutaq please keep posting the quotes though, there is room for both.

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