The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[RUSirius]

What I think about with all this though, is much of what Corey says may be true, space colonies, manufacturing, a race of blue avians etc., or whatever race it might be, even if he does not have any first hand experience with it/them and its all being fed to him. Its the part about the cohesive plan to free us which is all too familiar of a story that does not resonate with me. And in regards to the first sentence of space colonies and manufacturing and whatever races may be out there, the only reason I say it may be true is because its not a stretch of the imagination to think these things are going on in places around the vast seas of space and probably closer than that regardless of the Corey story being what it is.

[WhiteLove]

I am a regular reader of David's blog where he posts interesting articles. In fact I find David to be an incredible story teller, he is born to tell stories, it is in his blood.

His latest story about his latest insider touring Mars I must admit though I was not able to ever complete reading that article (I've made several attempts at it), because already when I read the title of that article I was in doubt. In fact I become doubtful when authors need to provide great content and bring in new insiders that tell fantasy stuff. I am not saying that this is the case with his latest article, but it is a great stretch for me. I have never found David to be uncaring about credibility etc. but to me as a story teller it appears that he relays a lot, which means it might or might not be true, totally depending on who the source happens to be.

But I love what David is doing, it's free content (almost), it's great for awakening and great story telling is great story telling.

Please share some of your thoughts on his latest article.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...1181-mars-tour

[Zionbrion]

There is a very long ongoing thread on this here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-David-Wilcock
My opinion on it can be summed up with a emoji.

[WhiteLove]

Posted by Zionbrion (here)
There is a very long ongoing thread on this here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-David-Wilcock
My opinion on it can be summed up with a emoji.

Wow, thanks!

[Hervé]

Posted by WhiteLove (here)
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Please share some of your thoughts on his latest article.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...1181-mars-tour

Hi WhiteLove, I merged your recent thread with this pre-existing one

Cheers!

[Bill Ryan]

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A highly respected, long-standing member wrote a couple of days ago to myself and the other mods privately asking that we might do a little more to constrain what they called "Corey bashing" on the forum.

I have just replied, and after a moment's thought I figured that my response might also be helpful to be shared here.

Thanks for your care — I'm assuming you also must have written to Corey quite a while back to ask him to please stop the Avalon- and Bill-Ryan-bashing (which was more than 'bashing', of course: it was a daily toxic offensive of malevolent lies and vitriol). Assuming you wrote to him, too, it's a shame he never paid any attention to you.

The truth about Corey is now emerging, and there's not much we can do about that, even if we wanted to suppress anything. By and large, the Avalon members have simply been sharing their ever-growing concerns and doubts: there's nothing on the forum I've seen recently that's cruel, untrue, or unkind.

It's just the way it is, and Corey, to a large degree, has simply been making his own bed with a continual array of rather bad choices. Most of those watching, far smarter than he might think they are, can see them quite clearly.

More and more is emerging all the time, and our job — and I think we agree on this — is principally to watch, and record it for the annals as his self-constructed edifice steadily falls apart.

One can have empathy for a wounded soul who is certainly being controlled and used to a very large degree (whether he realizes it or not) — but that doesn't mean that the actions that wounded soul takes are ethical or acceptable.

We all have a duty of care not to hurt one another if at all possible. In that respect, Corey is on his journey of learning, as we all are, but he may have a very long way to go, indeed.

[DeDukshyn]

Very well said Bill. At the same time, this thread does feel a tiny bit "Witch hunt-ish" now that we have drilled into some details and most are on the same page. And since that is my opinion, I will be signing off from this thread, but may peek in to see what might be brewing a little later down the road ...

[amor]

Ditto Ditto!

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Love that flower!

[regnak]

I think the Corey bashing should stop . Corey might be dyslexic or have trouble spelling or grammar errors no one is perfect we all have flaws and weakness .

While I personal never took much notice of his posts Sphere-Being Alliance and Blue Avians were and still are beyond my understanding although I have a interest in secret space programs and star gates.

I know there was a huge fall out between Avalon and Corey be the better man in this

[Innocent Warrior]

Honestly, I think we, as a whole, still lack the compassion required to achieve the enormous tasks we have taken on. Source is unconditionally loving, without exception. Coming down to the dualistic level of reality now, with that in mind, if darkness were to prevail, we'd have to face the fact that the dark ones were better at enslaving humanity than we were at liberating ourselves.

Biologically speaking, fear leads to our death and love puts us in a state of growth, humans are light beings. We are the light, humans are light beings, here lies our advantage. Love is key, compassion cannot be lacking if we are to prevail.

I have compassion in my heart but a fierce loyalty and indignation in my mind, a conflict apparent in some of my posts. I'm looking at my posts, concerning Corey (who I don't see as dark, that would require his free will, in full awareness) and the compassion in my heart is not apparent. So let me say this; make me your enemy if you wish, but you will never be mine, I have no enemies. If I have some truth to contribute then I will, it is not personal. Prove me wrong if I am and I will adjust my view accordingly.

I don't see Corey bashing here, I see a bunch of great people honouring the truth, as they see it. Considering the seriousness of the challenges we face, I think we're doing pretty great with compassion, but not there just yet, myself included. A bitter pill to swallow, we give so much, but if we want freedom there are no shortcuts, no excuses.

[Becky]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
Honestly, I think we, as a whole, still lack the compassion required to achieve the enormous tasks we have taken on. Source is unconditionally loving, without exception. Coming down to the dualistic level of reality now, with that in mind, if darkness were to prevail, we'd have to face the fact that the dark ones were better at enslaving humanity than we were at liberating ourselves.

Biologically speaking, fear leads to our death and love puts us in a state of growth, humans are light beings. We are the light, humans are light beings, here lies our advantage. Love is key, compassion cannot be lacking if we are to prevail.

I have compassion in my heart but a fierce loyalty and indignation in my mind, a conflict apparent in some of my posts. I'm looking at my posts, concerning Corey (who I don't see as dark, that would require his free will, in full awareness) and the compassion in my heart is not apparent. So let me say this; make me your enemy if you wish, but you will never be mine, I have no enemies. If I have some truth to contribute then I will, it is not personal. Prove me wrong if I am and I will adjust my view accordingly.

I don't see Corey bashing here, I see a bunch of great people honouring the truth, as they see it. Considering the seriousness of the challenges we face, I think we're doing pretty great with compassion, but not there just yet, myself included. A bitter pill to swallow, we give so much, but if we want freedom there are no shortcuts, no excuses.

Beautifully written Innocent Warrior - I share these sentiments.

[regnak]

Great post Innocent Warrior

I disagree only on one point there has been a lot of Corey bashing my job is not to defend him but to try to put a stop to it. It is not good to destroy some one even if they or wrong or misguided.

be the better man

make peace not war
I say close this thread

[grannyfranny100]

jonsnow, I don't agree unless another thread is started to discuss how Corey's information and approach helped each of us to better understand discernment. None of this "it resonated with me" stuff. What were the red flags that caught your attention?

Frankly I haven't followed this closely. I was greatly influenced by the battles before he left, the fact that he lacked the leadership command to keep his wife under control during the second interview, that he was threatening PA that he was negotiating with others while presenting such confidential information to the PA membership at large for back up of his position.

His personal behavior conflicted with the material he supposably gained from "high powered" resume with a time frame that seemed short for someone to achieve so many experiences. His claim to be an intuitive when his concluding months indicated a lack of intuitive insight and negotiating skills during the disputes while claiming that could "intuitively read" non earth representatives at meetings where he lacked the experience attendant to a high rank that he lacked. Posts that lacked any hint of military objective report writing that would indicate the ability to organize his reports with succinct data. This was followed by posts written in a style in keeping with a rough draft for a science fiction fantasy short story.

I stopped reading but occasionally would browse some posts. There were many members who followed his posts and brought up questions about the substance of his posts. They were carefully following his posts and giving him the benefit of doubt. Each person was giving him a chance given their own personal perspective and life experience. I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

[Lost N Found]

Bill, I just jumped back in here, I have been watching this Corey fellow lately on so many other places but mostly on the Divine Cosmos, well a number of other places also. I did read a very interesting write up you did on the Bradley Loves site. Well anyway, this Corey fellow I remember was on the project avalon forum way back in 2011 or 2012. And right about then is When that Drake guy started up his show on Universal voice or some such. Well then some other forum came into existence called Freedom Reigns I believe So Corey showed up there and did alot of talking and I did find out that he was a Veteran maybe Army or some such down in Texas. So Just remembering this guy from way back then and now he seems to be pushing himself off as some alien contact. I think what you are saying is good and yes, we all have to be conscious about what is going on around us and yes Corey, hopefully will find a way to deal with whatever pain may be causing him to do what he is doing. Thank you for being grounded.

[regnak]

Posted by bruno dante (here)
...My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell! And this was before all the hoopla. I don't mean to sound cruel, but the juxtaposition between appearance and ability suggested smoke and mirrors all the way. I just could never take him seriously.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by kirolak (here)

Does anyone have access to DragonVoice to alert them to their bugs? I have never heard of them before

That was a joke. Of course, there's no such bug. The inverted commas idiosyncrasy is Corey, via his own fingers on the keyboard.

[Mod hat back on, before I say too much more]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Selene (here)
DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.

[Mod hat off]

Yes. Someone should really also report the bug to DragonVoice where "the software" evidently always inserts "inverted commas" in "all the wrong places".

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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A highly respected, long-standing member wrote a couple of days ago to myself and the other mods privately asking that we might do a little more to constrain what they called "Corey bashing" on the forum.

I have just replied, and after a moment's thought I figured that my response might also be helpful to be shared here.

Thanks for your care — I'm assuming you also must have written to Corey quite a while back to ask him to please stop the Avalon- and Bill-Ryan-bashing (which was more than 'bashing', of course: it was a daily toxic offensive of malevolent lies and vitriol). Assuming you wrote to him, too, it's a shame he never paid any attention to you.

The truth about Corey is now emerging, and there's not much we can do about that, even if we wanted to suppress anything. By and large, the Avalon members have simply been sharing their ever-growing concerns and doubts: there's nothing on the forum I've seen recently that's cruel, untrue, or unkind.

It's just the way it is, and Corey, to a large degree, has simply been making his own bed with a continual array of rather bad choices. Most of those watching, far smarter than he might think they are, can see them quite clearly.

More and more is emerging all the time, and our job — and I think we agree on this — is principally to watch, and record it for the annals as his self-constructed edifice steadily falls apart.

One can have empathy for a wounded soul who is certainly being controlled and used to a very large degree (whether he realizes it or not) — but that doesn't mean that the actions that wounded soul takes are ethical or acceptable.

We all have a duty of care not to hurt one another if at all possible. In that respect, Corey is on his journey of learning, as we all are, but he may have a very long way to go, indeed.

Has Avalon lost its way I do not agree with Corey on most of what he says but his recent treatment has been appalling here where are the mods there has been a falling out between Avalon and Corey and there are hard feelings on both sides but this has to stop I tried not to go looking for evidence and I asked for this thread to be closed to put it to bed .

Is it Avalon mission to destroy someone because there has been a disagreement we all have our journey mocking someone is unacceptable especially by Bill Ryan founder of Avalon and Camelot who indeed I see as a great teacher leader of the future . Corey has no defensive here sad really.

I have asked Bill Ryan to be the better man in this

I say close this thread

[araucaria]

jonsnow, you have made the same point three times now, when Bill has already made his response. Since it is peace you want, I would humbly suggest you hold yours; you cannot impose peace, it has to be brought peaceably. Peace on Avalon also comes through relative newcomers (and others as well) trusting the forum owner to know what he's doing rather than repeatedly telling him he's wrong, which is something Corey was rather good at.

[regnak]

Bill has yet to reply

Bill might be right or wrong about Corey honestly I do not care
My comments are to stop the mocking of a ex-member of this forum who is unable to defend himself

is there mods on Avalon
is this acceptable here

[araucaria]

Posted by jonsnow (here)
Bill has yet to reply

Bill might be right or wrong about Corey honestly I do not care

Bill has made his statement above; that is all we need and I expect it is all you are going to get.

Unlike you, I personally care a great deal about this. What you don't seem to be getting (or maybe you are) is that the purpose of this campaign has been to discredit Bill and ultimately take down this forum. That is the totally unacceptable aim that you are contributing towards. Either this is involuntary on your part, in which case please stop, or it is deliberate, in which case please go away.

[Agape]

Peace comes through understanding ..

if you look to the Camelot Archives : http://projectcamelot.org/index1.html

or Mikes Salla Exopolitical Examiner : http://exopolitics.org/papers/examiner-exonews/

you would find two kinds of reports and information : type one from people who have actually been somewhere ( on mission, in space , pilots , doing their job in the field , it does not really matter ) and seen something ( unusual ) or experienced it in another way and they ( we ) care to report .

Type two seems to come from/with people whose past and credentials are rather obscure or say, irrelevant but they seemed to have spent long time home thinking ..
but they come 'to report' fabulous, fantastic stories of meeting with ETs, hundreds of space races , colonies on all planets of this solar system and other type of 'material' that either exist only in someones dreams and phantasies , or .. perhaps,
as they claim , in another reality , unavailable to humans .
Both is possible .

However .. it is slightly dangerous where credibility and accuracy is concerned to mix type 1 and type 2 of witnesses , namely because type 2 tend to borrow lots of 'dreams' and ideas from type 1 and virtually, any information source they encounter .

Type 2 often claim starry jobs with either space or civil agencies ( again, 'dream' borrowed from people who had actually been there and happened to be successful on their jobs ? ) that has no traceable record .
Even Ed Snowden has one .

Yes it's true that people who are uncomfortable with any regime are often forcibly 'disappeared' and disposed of silently ,
that's why keeping safe is important .

Back to your type 1 and 2 witnesses . By no means I mean to attack or discredit all '2's .
To be utterly honest .. and from what /whom I've met over the years in both spiritual and civil life circles ,
pure '2's are very rare and totally otherworldly creatures who may require to be handled in unique ways .
However, on contrary to peoples common convictions and understanding here , 'pure 2s' aren't either easily influenceable by anything ( and anyone , they refuse to be so in order to protect their information and sanity , and they seldom care if you consider them credible or not ) and I speak of people ( entities ) who are fiercely authentic ..
and no , you have nothing to fear from them unless you have deceptive layers to shed .
Because then , they will either ignore you or attack you for no visible reason, in ways that are harmless mostly in order to get you away from their presence .
Because 'pure2s' hate fabricated personalities and lies .

These types - and when it comes to communication with ETs - are mostly interested in what they do and do it full speed , can be very geeky or very spiritual , both or neither but there are items most despise of .. hard human emotions for example,
stupidity and violence , ignorance painted of human faces , I'd not see that 'type2s' would have any more respect for any political figures, leaders or authorities more than they have for their girlfriends .


Of course , there are more types , quote Michal Salla for example and other researchers , type3 . Type 3s are very intelligent and spend lives balancing themselves somewhere on the edge .
With artistic skills of musicians and ballerinas they refuse to fall on either side of the fence , or get too dirty .
They may come to some excellent and pretty original observations of their own ..

trying to make 'sense of everything' at the same time does only make sense to themselves, however and their lack of certainty and liberty of 'opinion' can be misguiding to their audience .

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The thing is ... until people , say due to their missing expertise and scientific overview believe things such as quoted in OP of this thread , they're happy to believe anyone who says so , CG ( CG , right ) is far from the first or last with such claims and/but it does not make them real .
I don't know 'how it comes' and why certain people are ready to believe such things, if it's because they did not spend time enough in schools , laboratories , never took part of research projects , so they're not familiar with the atmosphere, environment and protocols and think there's something 'clandestine' and 'fantastic' going on behind all those doors ,
yes there is . It's just not allowed to go over anyones head really .


Close the topic, by all means please But someone will start new one about it ..

it's part of the silly game you think you're playing .. game with threads , and topics . And people ..

[regnak]

araucaria I quite like Bill Ryan who I see as one of the great teachers . I was asked to stop so I will leave this thread.

My intent was not to harm Avalon which is a great place to be