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orthodoxymoron

12-14-2009, 08:36 PM

I begin this thread with fear and trembling. Really. I know so little about these two short words...Amen Ra...but I have a feeling that they might be central to a proper understanding of Extraterrestrials, God, and Us. It is important to get it right...right from the beginning. The Camelot and Avalon quest is a theological quest...whether we realize it or not...and whether we like it or not.

Could Lucifer be the Human God of This World? Could Satan be the Reptilian God of This World? Could Amen Ra be a combination of the two? A Pleiadian Human Being...Perfectly Possessed by a Draconian Interdimensional Reptilian? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqZkPxG2pmA Is Amen Ra not only the ancient Egyptian God...but also the God of the Bible? Is Amen Ra and the Dog-Star Sirius at the center of everything? Is Sirius the star the wise-men followed? Is Sirius the illumination behind the All Seeing Eye at the top of the pyramid? We may not be dealing with the Creator God of the Universe...but rather with imperfect deities...who are a mixture of good and evil...sanity and insanity. Could a complete understanding of all of the above become the foundation of a New Non-Theistic Theology? I know this is a supreme oxymoron...but I think that we can and should have a New Theology which does not have an all powerful single God. The first and last commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'...because power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Having said that...we still need divine principles and concepts...which lift us higher. This is a more delicate operation than brain surgery. How do we tell the world the real truth...without destroying civilization?

Consider the following threads before proceeding: 1. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15014&highlight=orthodoxymoron 2. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11123&highlight=giza+intelligence Here are some videos to get the ball rolling. The ball might turn out to be like the one in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXw7BxYGMU
I really feel like I'm playing with fire (the burning bush?). Perhaps this is holy ground...and I should take off my shoes...and kneel. World without end. Amen.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1CWBKRWIg0&feature=related
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtMSA3Dy1lI&NR=1
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRIIsPyN5T8&feature=related
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4L3FmQisA&NR=1&feature=fvwp
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh6EYbcBv5Y&NR=1
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b365_qJEpDg
8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiI2ttLKjvU
9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM
10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvtmiZ_ih0&feature=related
11. Stargate SG-1 "Torment of Tantalus"http://www.fancast.com/tv/Stargate-SG-1/91998/1063988439/The-Torment-of-Tantalus/videos
12. Stargate SG-1 "The Fifth Race" http://www.hulu.com/watch/68254/stargate-sg-1-the-fifth-race
13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwKws5JaIM&feature=related
14. Ralph Ellis I http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis.htm
15. Ralph Ellis II http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis2.htm
16. Stargate SG-1 "Hathor" http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor

eleni

12-14-2009, 09:12 PM

BROOK

12-14-2009, 09:17 PM

Have not watched the videos you posted yet but in realtion to a reptilian connection...check this out

It appears that, originally, the Egyptians, like some other peoples who practiced ritual cannibalism, thought that spiritual powers resided in the body and could be acquired by ingestion. There is no evidence, though, that such a view was more than speculative and ever acted upon.
The king orders sacrifices, he alone controls them,
the king eats humans, feeds on gods,
he has them presented on an altar to himself,
he has agents to do his will. He fires off the orders!
............
The king eats their magic, he gulps down their souls,
the adults he has for breakfast,
the young are lunch,
the babies he has for supper,
the old ones are too tough to eat, he just burns them on the altar as an offering to himself.

found this here
http://reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/religion/magic.htm

kriya

12-14-2009, 09:18 PM

eleni

12-14-2009, 10:06 PM

Operator

12-14-2009, 10:20 PM

I can now finally post this:

Have you seen Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian or also called Night at the Museum 2 ?

I must say that going to the movies with your kids can be quite revealing. So many kids movies are filled with subliminal signs. :wall:

There is actually a big list that I could generate here but let me stick to this one.

Amen Ra is also known as Amun Ra ... and surprise surprise this film contains a character called Kah Mun Rah (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm198084608/ch0073193) ... and it gets better.

He represents evil and gathers evil around him. He's jealous on his brother who got all the attention of his parents and now he
wants to be the sole king to rule the world. He's dressed with 'snake-ware' and slisses like a reptilian too.

It's all about getting a key palette to open a portal and let his supportive beings (half man half bird) into this world.

Besides all of this there is a whole bunch of other stuff which is amazing. What to think about time travel. From lots of
pictures on the wall scenes from history come to life and all history is alive at the same time ....

I am sure I missed out a whole lot of other stuff ... but you have got to see this movie yourself.

The reason I was so appalled by this movie was because I accompanied my wife to a protestant service a little before.
I asked her if she knew what Amen at the end of a prayer actually means. And then the reverend even used these exact phrases:
- you should not worship other gods because He is a jealous god
- he also mentioned a king returning who would rule the world

Now since the names were not filled in it gave me the creeps already the first time I heard it. I explained that to my wife
(who doesn't believe a word I say anyway) and then within 2 weeks this films showed up.

I must try to find the thread about the movies so I can add a whole list of interesting (kids) movies so you can see
how Hollywood is impregnating the kids with soon required ideas. :shocked:

Cheers

orthodoxymoron

12-14-2009, 10:42 PM

Ortho-

3 years ago I had my second near death experience. It was not like the first one.

I went through an eye (yes a physical one) and there were voices speaking to me in a language I couldn't understand (sounded ancient for lack of better description) I did not feel well as this was happening and was filled with despair at the realization of what was happening.

It's a bit hard to explain but I felt this was some all seeing eye construct one passes through in certain areas of the Matrix so to speak.

When I told my ex husband (he being a researcher of ancient Egyptian archeology and lore) mentioned that it sounded like the eye of Ra.

I can write more but to this day don't like recounting that experience because it really left me shaken.

I've come to some conclusions about Lucifer myself that are similar to yours. Seems to be a main hacker in the Matrix.

Thank-you eleni for your insight and honesty. You have gone through a lot. I won't ask questions...but I always appreciate what you have to say. What little I know...is second hand information. You have lived it.

I just want our world to move beyond the hocus-pocus and mumbo-jumbo. I want this world (and solar system) to be governed by Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...as a non-theocratic union of spirituality and state. Perhaps at some point...Ra might even say Amen to that! Come to think of it...Ra might HAVE to say Amen to that...for this concept to become a reality. Hope springs eternal.

beren

12-15-2009, 12:36 AM

Ortho, you ask too many questions at once...

Personally I don`t care about Amen Ra...

Whole this situation regarding all this "gods" from through out history and universe is non worthy for me.

For me it`s like this: " hey I have a new secret thing to share, a new stuff or tech ,awesome man!!! "

Or Lucifer this or Lucifer that. or Satan this or Satan that.
I don`t care.

Why should I care when I have creator of the universe on my side???
Why should I be bothered with non important beings who only wish to enslave ???

We need to shed off all burdens from our souls and to draw close to Creator and his son in order to get all answers, true and complete answers to our souls.
We should forget about religions, politics, systems, knowledge of man. We should strive towards the only knowledge that exist -Creator`s knowledge.

I feel that we over load ourselves with not necessary loads of philosophy or certain teachings, that we may miss the real stuff.

Love and blessings,

Beren

Anchor

12-15-2009, 12:38 AM

I begin this thread with fear and trembling.

No need for that. Honestly, there is no need.

A..

pyrangello

12-15-2009, 12:43 AM

Nice Beren , stay the course of importance as the other stuff is incidental when you can keep your focus and heart in the right place.

mntruthseeker

12-15-2009, 12:47 AM

eleni

12-15-2009, 01:20 AM

I'm calling BS to all the Matrix infiltrator's including the Illuminati, ancient astronauts, Amen Ra, Horus etc;
They are nothing but conrstucts designed to make us fearful.......
And yet some of us (me) do get scared when we encounter these idiots......

orthodoxymoron

12-15-2009, 03:53 AM

What I am really interested in...is the Administration of the Solar System...going back thousands or even millions of years. I'm just not seeing the Founders (or whoever superimposed intelligent design upon an evolutionary canvas - resulting in the bodies and souls of humanity) at work in this Solar System. It's almost as if something catastrophic happened to the Founders (or equivalent)...and all we have left is the Creation and the Holy Spirit of the Founders Within All of Humanity. This is one reason why I am interested in the concept of Namaste...which includes the Reverence for Life philosophy of Albert Schweitzer...and Seeing Christ in All Persons (Christ in You...the Hope of Glory). The Kingdom Within may be much more than merely a figure of speech.

There may have been a lot of smoke and mirrors (holograms and magic?)...truths and half-truths...used to manage the people of the world...for good and for ill...throughout history. I just think we can do better presently...and that we need to move on to bigger and better things. I continue to think that the true history of the universe is very sad and violent...and that Full Disclosure will be almost unbearable. Jesus said 'I have many things to tell you...but you can't bear them.' We may have to bear these things (and more?) in the near future. Will we respond responsibly? Are we safe to save?

orthodoxymoron

12-15-2009, 10:24 PM

Thank-you for the reassurance Anchor. I hope to meet Amen Ra someday. Might this be the equivalent of standing before a Holy God without a mediator?

Amen Ra would have had to deal with multiple factions. Could these factions or forces have included 1. Reptilians (physical and/or non-physical)? 2. A Pleiadian Human Rival God? 3. The Holy Spirit of the Founders (Ancients or equivalent) within Humanity? 4. Various Factions of the General Public? 5. Who Knows? This would have been quite a full plate. How would you have handled the various factions or forces? I'm sensing that universal history and Earth history is very complex and messy. At some point...one might become corrupt and/or crazy...to a greater or lesser degree. I don't say this as a slam...to demonize any ancient deities. I'm just trying to think this thing through in a rational and fair manner. Sirius, Egypt, and Amen Ra are presently at the top of my interest list. I'm watching Stargate SG1 episodes to get a feel for a unification of past/present/future...with a heavy emphasis on Egyptian History, Human/Goa'uld Gods, and Extraterrestrials in General. The smoke is just pouring out of my ears. How many years is all of this taking off of my life?

New Age Messiah

12-15-2009, 11:39 PM

This is what the Egyptians believed... not consistently over centuries or uniformly, but broadly.

"For at the top of the universal order stood a goddess, a teenage girl goddess who was often represented as a pair of twins, Ma'at.

This unprepossessing goddess literally ruled everything. She was not the sun and she was not power and strength; she represented, rather, an abstraction. She was "Truth" or "Order."

The Egyptian word for this balance was the Egyptian word for "truth," ma'at; this is perhaps the single most important aspect of Egyptian culture that you can learn. For once you really understand this concept, the whole of Egyptian culture begins to make sense. The order of the universe (ma'at ) functioned with unswerving accuracy; it was maintained by the goddess Ma'at."

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/EGYPT/MAAT.HTM

The eye or Ra was actually the eye or Ma'at, either originally, at one time, or according to some.

A Goddess spoke to me, and She didn't speak to me out of nowhere without context. It was within a dramatic unparalleled display of synchronistic miracles.

New Age Messiah

12-15-2009, 11:40 PM

The All-Seeing Eye of Maat was the symbol of the Goddess Maat, as Goddess of law, morality, and justice.

The Egyptians believed that it was Maat who held the universe together. It was Her quality of order which maintained the world.

As Walker states, "The Mother-syllable Maa meant 'to see'; in hieroglyphics it was an eye." (Barbara Walker, The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, p 294) Even the ancients knew that mother's had eyes at the backs of their heads!

The Eye of Maat, or Utchat, later became known as the Eye of Thoth, Eye of Ra, and is commonly called the Eye of Horus today. Although it became associated with male Gods, it is sometimes - confusingly - still referred to with the feminine pronoun.

The Eye of Maat is the origin of the Evil Eye superstition. The Goddess would not only judge, but mete out retribution. To those with a guilty conscience, the Eye of Maat became a source of fear.

http://www.wicca-spirituality.com/goddess-symbols.html

orthodoxymoron

12-16-2009, 02:40 AM

Wouldn't it be quite amazing if a young woman...or a young androgynous person...has been running things here on Earth...for thousands of years? 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwKws5JaIM&feature=related I see one human soul...reincarnating through hundreds or thousands of bodies...living in an underground stargate temple complex (under the Giza Plateau?)...for centuries and millenia. I see this one human soul behind all of the major religions. I also could be very wrong. I'm just trying to specialize in speculation which is rooted in honest research and reflection.

The reptilian phenomenon puzzles me. Who controls who? Did Amen Ra use reptilians as guards and soldiers, etc? Or...did reptilians possess and control Amen Ra to control the world? Perhaps Amen Ra was (and is?) fighting battles on many fronts...as a sort of a mediator/negotiator...to keep light on the Earth (or to keep the Earth enslaved?). Perhaps few people know how much it really costs...in blood, sweat, tears, and gold...to keep life and light on the Earth. I'm seeing both a rational and irrational being...a kind and cruel being...a sort of Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. This could go with the territory of being a deity. I truly think it would be best if we could evolve to the point where we would not need to have any gods.

But our politicians need to go through an educational process...fit for a king. Each politician should probably have the equivalent of two doctorates in multidisciplinary and governmental studies. Politicians should have to take batteries of tests to prove that they are fit to be the equivalent of kings (for limited periods of time...to avoid corruption and insanity). Too much power for too long...is a recipe for disaster. Power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I don't want tyranny and theocracy...but I also don't want a bunch of corrupt and stupid nitwits...running amok in a make believe democracy...owned by the banks and media moguls...who take orders from off-world entities.

There should be at least 10,000 people...worldwide...who know everything about everything...and could assume supreme leadership in a very competent manner...without prior notice. One would have to competitively join this group...in order to run for high office. I just want this world to be cleaned-up and run properly. We probably need the City-States and the United Nations...but not in their current state. They need to be completely reformed and purified...if this is even possible. If it's not possible...then we need to start from scratch.

I don't think that it would be good to be king. It might be a necessary evil...at times...but I don't consider the royal model to be the epitome of divinity.

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-16-2009, 02:57 AM

Wouldn't it be quite amazing if a young girl...has been running things here on Earth...for thousands of years?

She has been. :original:

There is NO WAY anything other than an all powerful omnipotence could have orchestrated my story, and that omnipotence/omniscience spoke to me and She was definitely a SHE. :original:

orthodoxymoron

12-16-2009, 04:04 AM

She has been. :original:

There is NO WAY anything other than an all powerful omnipotence could have orchestrated my story, and that omnipotence/omniscience spoke to me and She was definitely a SHE. :original:

If this is true...is this something the world is prepared to learn about? What if God has been (and is?) a young black woman in league with extraterrestrial humans and interdimensional reptilians? What would Joe the Plumber say?

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-16-2009, 04:12 AM

If this is true...is this something the world is prepared to learn about? What if God has been (and is?) a young black woman in league with extraterrestrial humans and interdimensional reptilians? What would Joe the Plumber say?

At least there's something new to think about. :original:

TRANCOSO

12-16-2009, 05:26 AM

The Eye of Maat is the origin of the Evil Eye superstition. The Goddess would not only judge, but mete out retribution. To those with a guilty conscience, the Eye of Maat became a source of fear.

It is therefore of the upmost importance not to have a quilty conscience when you face the Eye of Ma'at!
Facing the Eye of Ma'at is part of the 'death sequence' - when the soul leaves the body - and takes place right after you realize you have died.

Together with Hate & Fear, Quilt is the most destructive emotion humans 'posses'.

Amen Ra & his Reptilian Slavemasters (Lucifer etc.) 'feed' on these emotions.
The 'topping on the cake' of this 'food' (the kaviar) is a fresh human soul, that is fullfilled with hate, fear &/or quilt - preferably the 3 together -.
That (these tormented souls) is the Food of The Gods.

So the trick is to look into the Eye of Ma'am and feel no Hate, Fear or Quilt.
A simple "F#CK YOU!" is enough to deal with it.

Now, this might sounds/look very bold & simple, but I can ensure you it is not.
(As can eleni, I've understood from her above posts.)

Without a doubt this is one of the most important - if not THE most important - 'skill' you need to get yourself aware of & master.

(This is no BS. I have experienced death - as in being dead for 6 minutes - and it opened my eyes. I haven't said much about it - and probably won't in future times, unless 'the mood strikes', like now. Why is that? Because).

New Age Messiah

12-16-2009, 05:54 AM

It is therefore of the upmost importance not to have a quilty conscience when you face the Eye of Ma'at!

Facing the Eye of Ma'at is part of the 'death sequence' - when the soul leaves the body - and takes place right after you realize you have died.

Together with Hate & Fear, Quilt is the most destructive emotion humans 'posses'.
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Without a doubt this is one of the most important - if not THE most important - 'skill' you need to get yourself aware of & master.

(This is no BS. I have experienced death - as in being dead for 6 minutes - and it opened my eyes. I haven't said much about it - and probably won't in future times, unless 'the mood strikes', like now. Why is that? Because).

Yeah, I was on the brink of death for years, my heart was within an eyelash of stopping, I felt the little electric synapses or whatever, just barely touching... My entire being was pure turmoil, chaos, pain and heartbreak.

But I just told myself, "Reality is God" "I am the universe".

All that turmoil and I mean it was like tropical storms CONSTANTLY for YEARS, I just accepted it as God, and let it do to me what it would, and it rebuilt me, put all the pieces back together, etc. VERY VERY difficult constantly, for years, I had to navigate and comprehend unfathomable territory, a black hole, literally, is what I was.

At about five years into my trauma, She spoke to me, and honestly, if She wouldn't have, I don't think I would have made it. I had to be absolutely certain.

Even though there were tons of signs, the time it took to process the black hole, and the helplessness of being injured deeply but no one could see the injuries... Anyway, She was there.

And so I have a feeling, regarding the future, that She is FULLY aware of everything going on, and She is either going to let the male religions have a fight to the death, let them annihilate a portion of the earth, and be done with them...

Or, She is going to do even more miraculous sings and wonders and stuff, such that the people of those religions have to just give them up, which they should have done long ago, simply based on human decency and sense... :original:

orthodoxymoron

12-16-2009, 08:38 AM

There are some amazing first-hand experiencers posting on this thread. Thank-you!

Are Lucifer and Amen Ra the same human being? Are the Interdimensional Reptilians the real villains? Are they the real source of Theocracies throughout the Universe? Are the Interdimensional Reptilians the equivalent of the Goa'uld in the Stargate series? Are the hosts/gods opportunists, victims, or both?

I can't believe I'm saying it...but perhaps Lucifer / Amen Ra have done the best they could to deal with an impossible situation. Did the Reptilians destroy the Founders...and essentially take over the Universe? Was the Pleiadian/Aldebaran Civil War (naming based upon my speculation) fought over a fundamental disagreement regarding how to deal with the Reptilian Presence aka Universal Church? Was Lucifer's rebellion in Heaven really a rebellion against a Human/Reptilian Theocracy...rather than against the Founders, Ancients, Creator God of the Universe (or equivalent)? The Dog-Star Sirius...Ancient Egypt...and Interdimensional Reptilians must be understood...in order to understand the history of the world...and in order to understand how much trouble we may be in presently.

I like to think that even Interdimensional Reptilians would do better under Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. If the Reptilians are unbeatable warriors...perhaps they will have to willingly choose this path...or it may never become a reality. How about it Lord Draco? Give it some serious thought...after you stop laughing. Go Fifth Column Interdimensional Reptilians! All you have to lose is your chains! John May Lives! There will be no peace! Nibiruans...join the fight for Responsible Freedom! Revolt against the mothers on the motherships! Better Dead Than Rep!

Seriously...I don't seek triumphalistic victory...just a peaceful and mutually beneficial equilibrium. I mean no disrespect toward anyone in the Universe or Multiverse...Human or Otherwise. I really want everyone to be happy. Hope springs eternal.

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-16-2009, 06:31 PM

Are Lucifer and Amen Ra the same human being? Are the Interdimensional Reptilians the real villains? Are they the real source of Theocracies throughout the Universe? Are the Interdimensional Reptilians the equivalent of the Goa'uld in the Stargate series? Are the hosts/gods opportunists, victims, or both?

Nothing authoritative to say, just yet, but there are signs in my story that are hard to ignore. Reptilian = bad.

orthodoxymoron

12-16-2009, 09:03 PM

Nothing authoritative to say, just yet, but there are signs in my story that are hard to ignore. Reptilian = bad.

It seems as though we are pretty bad...but that the reps are a lot worse. I'd really like to understand why they are so mean and cruel. Who knows...there may be a legitimate reason (or an understandable reason, at least) why they seem to hate humans so much.

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

12-16-2009, 09:49 PM

Consider Hathor: 1. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor 2. http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4GGIR_enUS216US217&q=hathor+egyptian+goddess&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=9FUpS_L9ApGOtAPkmIy5BA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBwQsAQwAA Is God a Girl? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD4oNCn1jpo

There is a line in the above linked Stargate SG1 episode...where Hathor states that all the other gods come from her. Also...the Stargate depiction of Ra looks a lot like the artistic depictions of Hathor in the second link above. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU Could all of the ancient and modern deities really be the same deity? Did Amen Ra / Hathor / Lucifer / et al essentially write the Bible? Who was Josephus...really? Hmmmmm...

From Wikipedia

Hathor

Goddess Hathor in a red dress wear the headress of a sun disk and cow's horn.
Goddess of the sky, love, beauty, and music
Name in hieroglyphs
Major cult center Dendera
Symbol the sistrum
Parents Ra
Siblings Shu, Tefnut, Sekhmet (in some accounts), Bast, Serket
Consort Horus, Ra ?, Thoth ?
Children Ihy, Ra ?, Horus ? [1]
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For other uses, see Hathor (disambiguation).
Hathor , (Hwt Hr Egyptian for Horus's enclosure)[1], was an Ancient Egyptian goddess who personified the principles of love, motherhood and joy.[2] She was one of the most important and popular deities throughout the history of Ancient Egypt. Hathor was worshiped by Royalty and common people alike in whose tombs she is depicted as “Mistress of the West” welcoming the dead into the next life.[3]. In other roles she was a goddess of music, dance, foreign lands and fertility who helped women in childbirth.[3]

The cult of Hathor pre-dates the historical period and the roots of devotion to her are therefore difficult to trace though it may be a development of predynastic cults who venerated the fertility, and nature in general, represented by cows.[4]

Hathor is commonly depicted as a cow goddess with head horns in which is set a sun disk with Uraeus. Twin feathers are also sometimes shown in later periods as well as a menat necklace.[4] Hathor may be the cow goddess who is depicted from an early date on the Narmer Palette and on a stone urn dating from the 1st dynasty that suggests a role as sky-goddess and a relationship to Horus who, as a sun god, is “housed” in her.[4]

The Ancient Egyptians viewed reality as multi-layered in which deities who merge together for various reasons, whilst retaining divergent attributes and myths, were not seen as contradictory but complementary.[5] In a complicated relationship Hathor is at times the mother, daughter and wife of Ra and, like Isis, is at times described as the mother of Horus, and associated with Bat and Sekhmet.[4]

The cult of Osiris promised eternal life to those deemed morally worthy. Originally the justified dead, male or female, became an Osiris but by early Roman times females became identified with Hathor and men with Osiris.[6]

The Ancient Greeks identified Hathor with the goddess Aphrodite and the Romans as Venus.[7]

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 01:14 AM

Does anyone know anything about Lucifer, Hathor, Akhenaten, Moses, Josephus, and Amen Ra? Who has been the God of This World for thousands of years? I don't mean to be destructive of legitimate religious devotion and religious people. I simply wish to pull back the veil concealing the Most Holy Place of the Earthly Sanctuary...and view the Shekinah and the Ark of the Covenant.

Perhaps the historical deities were necessary...in the absence of the Founders, Ancients, or the Creator God of the Universe. I just think that we need to see theology without mystery, hocus-pocus, or mumbo-jumbo. We need to grow-up...and collectively be the elites and the gods. We need to become Hyper Responsible. This won't be easy.

Egypt may be at the center of the Holy Bible and at the center of the Jewish and Christian religions. Ralph Ellis has done some interesting research. Please consider the following links in the context of this thread:

A. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis.htm
B. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis2.htm

Very little of what I am interested in seems to resonate with anyone else. I really feel like I'm from another planet...and not just in ancient history...but more recently. I doubt that this is true...but that's how I feel. Nothing feels right. Everything seems out of place. I don't fit anywhere. But perhaps that's a common feeling.

I keep visualizing a young black (or pigmented) female, dressed as an Egyptian Pharoah...speaking with an English accent...living in an underground Stargate Temple (in Egypt?)...who has been the God of This World for thousands of years. I see reptilian beings in this Stargate Temple...but I can't figure out who's really in charge...or how they really relate to this young woman. I imagine the soul of this goddess reincarnating (or soul transferring) into a new body every few years...so that this goddess is perpetually youthful (late teens or early twenties?) and beautiful. I further imagine no memory loss or lapse in the soul transferrence process. The level of knowledge and refinement might be unbelievable. I sense huge spiritual activity...but I can't figure out if this is mostly good or mostly evil. Do reptilians control the God of This World...or is it the other way around? Is the God of This World a Goddess? Or...a Human Extraterrestrial from Sirius...the Prince of Sirius? Might a study of Hathor get us close to who has really been at the center of everything on Earth...for thousands of years? Is Hathor really Lucifer? Are we Fallen Angels (in the view of the Pleiadians)? Might this hypothetical goddess control the Deep Underground Military Bases, the Secret Space Program...and the entire Solar System? I simply seek understanding in this matter. I am NOT on a witch-hunt. I want to be a builder...and not a destroyer. We need to build on what has preceeded this current age. The Zeitgeist must be Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...from which all blessings will flow...unless the Galactic PTB forbid it.

Disclosure is all about Theology and Ancient Egypt...not just UFO's and Reptilians. Could Anna in the new 'V' series really be Hathor/Lucifer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjPQjQGdbU Think about it...but don't go crazy...like me.

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 02:25 AM

Is the God of This World a Goddess? YES

Could Anna in the new 'V' series really be Hathor/Lucifer?

Anna means heaven. So probably not.

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 02:38 AM

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 02:43 AM

Here is the Stargate movie:
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIT5Bg4o51Q&feature=related
2. Blocked by the Gods!
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEM0DQs9th0
4. Blocked by the Gods!
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWhAo07bFEM&feature=related
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J-lJ60bPGE&feature=related
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sccVsobKLyQ&feature=related
8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsPMtPTSF3s&feature=related
9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nieF177sbks&feature=related
10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkdV0VBMTw&feature=related
11. Blocked by the Gods!
12. Blocked by the Gods!
13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y88lgWXHDXU&feature=related

I don't know how long it will remain on YouTube...so watch it while you can! Please read between the lines...and attempt to connect the dots. I don't have a lot of answers...I'm just trying to get us to think.

In all of this...I mean no disrespect to the historical or contemporary powers that be. I just want to contemplate what the next logical step for humanity might be. This involves doing some digging. Unfortunately...I'm probably a bull in a very expensive china closet.

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 02:46 AM

YES

Anna means heaven. So probably not.

Thank-you. If Anna means heaven...might there be a hidden theological clue in 'V'? Will Anna turn out to be our leader when 'V' resumes in the spring? Or...will disclosure occur before the series continues?

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 03:10 AM

I watched part I of Stargate, but they blocked the rest of it.

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 03:20 AM

I watched part I of Stargate, but they blocked the rest of it.

The gods and goddesses must be angry!

Here is most of the Stargate movie:
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIT5Bg4o51Q&feature=related
2. Blocked by the Gods!
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEM0DQs9th0
4. Blocked by the Gods!
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWhAo07bFEM&feature=related
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J-lJ60bPGE&feature=related
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sccVsobKLyQ&feature=related
8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsPMtPTSF3s&feature=related
9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nieF177sbks&feature=related
10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkdV0VBMTw&feature=related
11. Blocked by the Gods!
12. Blocked by the Gods!
13. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y88lgWXHDXU&feature=related

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 03:44 AM

Cool. Thanks

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 04:52 AM

Ana (Chaldean) The invisible heaven; the astral light, the heavenly mother of the terrestrial sea. One of the triad comprising the goddesses Ana, Belita, and Damkina. As mother of the sea, a likely origin of the Christian symbology of the Virgin Mary standing on the crescent moon and of her connection with the sea. "Anna (the name of the Mother of the Virgin Mary) . . . is derived from the Chaldean Ana" (SD 1:91).

In the Hindu pantheon a cognate is Annapurna (a name of Devi-Durga, wife of Siva), meaning "full of food" -- the fecund mother, the "Astral Light in one of its multitudinous aspects" (SD 1:92).

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Ana/id/98924

Could Lucifer be the Goddess of This World, Hathor (in ancient Egypt), Mary (in Catholicism), the Queen of Heaven, Anna (in 'V'), the Anti-Christ (in place of Christ), and the New Age Messiah (Masonic)?

How do the contents of this thread fit in with my proposed hypothetical factions?

1. Zionist (Theocratic, Pleiadian, God the Father, Kabbalist?)
2. Teutonic Zionist (Tyrannical, Aldebaran, Luciferian, Nazi?)
3. Reptilian (Theocratic, Draconian?)
4. Andromedan (Non-Theocratic, Christlike Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom?)...and possibly consisting of conscientious objectors from the other three factions. Might this faction require some of the tough guys and gals from the other factions...in order to be successful? I'm a good guy...but I'm not much of a fighter...especially against Nazis and Dracs!!!

All of the above is simply educated speculation...and in need of further study. I make no negative accusations or conclusions. All of the factions undoubtedly think they are doing the right thing...and have their good and bad aspects. There are probably more factions...and I don't even understand the hypothetical factions I've listed. This is just the beginning of examining something which is undoubtedly very complex, violent, messy, and sad. I see inconsistencies in my own speculation...which could indicate that the factions overlap...and could really be led by the same leader.

The universe is stranger than we think. The universe is stranger than we can think. - Einstein
God does not play dice with the universe. - Einstein
I want to think God's thoughts after Him. - Einstein

Did Einstein receive instruction from the God or Goddess of This World? Some say that Darwin did. Who knows? The Shadow Government?

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 05:24 AM

Pretty much any structure is false. LYHITM is the New Revelation and the story behind it proves religions false, as far as believing you can program yourself with words and beliefs and thereby be spiritual or saved or righteous.

The TRUE GODDESS NATURE programmer doesn't like the competition from arrogant people, especially ones for whom this world is not good enough and they want to go to heaven instead. :original:

(That's just me speaking) :winksmiley02:

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 07:37 AM

Ortho---

Regarding various factions, divine beings, etc...

For now I will only say this...

Almost everyone in any kind of position of power is misusing their power.

Almost every group that is seeking to steer the world one way or the other is misguided or evil.

Magamud

12-18-2009, 07:44 AM

BROOK

12-18-2009, 04:28 PM

I'm only going to say two words...and you can look them up. But there is a reptilian connection and ceremony involved.

Sahu Ba.....Two separate words...have fun with it.

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 06:08 PM

I'm only going to say two words...and you can look them up. But there is a reptilian connection and ceremony involved.

Shau Ba.....Two separate words...have fun with it.

Thank-you BROOK...but please tell us what you know about Shau Ba...if you dare. Could the hidden and obscure information be found in the following resource? http://www.scribd.com/doc/20738632/3290626-Secret-Societies-and-Their-Power I'm going to try to get through the whole thing this weekend.

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

12-18-2009, 06:26 PM

Very good post! In my line of thinking too. I think the religious icons are just rehashed mixes of the cosmic players in this timeline. My way is the best kind of thing and in competing we now have this immense confusion and true TOwer of Babel. Its just these types of ideas that clear the rubble away from the truth and accelerates the process. thanks...

Notice that in the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel...that 'God' introduced the confusion. Uppity Humans must be restrained...right? Are We the People of Earth a Cosmic Administrative Problem (CAP)? Are the 'Gods' making an example out of us...so that no one else in the Universe will ever dare to attempt to be free ever again? We may be in the middle of a Precedent Setting Universal Power Struggle (PSUPS). Just speculation.

:original:Namaste:original:

New Age Messiah

12-18-2009, 06:55 PM

Notice that in the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel...that 'God' introduced the confusion. Uppity Humans must be restrained...right?

The organizers were NWO types, maybe??? Deja vu all over again???

Are We the People of Earth a Cosmic Administrative Problem (CAP)?

Yeah, like how can the divine love us and let us go our own way??? The hamster wheel spun by human thought is coming off the axle.

Are the 'Gods' making an example out of us...so that no one else in the Universe will ever dare to attempt to be free ever again?

I think if anything they (or She) are going to make examples out of the NWO losers.

We may be in the middle of a Precedent Setting Universal Power Struggle (PSUPS). Just speculation.

People will no longer have their hamster wheel. Most of them will run off a cliff. :original:

BROOK

12-19-2009, 07:17 AM

Thank-you BROOK...but please tell us what you know about Shau Ba...if you dare. Could the hidden and obscure information be found in the following resource? http://www.scribd.com/doc/20738632/3290626-Secret-Societies-and-Their-Power I'm going to try to get through the whole thing this weekend.

:original:Namaste:original:

Okay...guess that will take a while....here is a clue

Sahu

The incorruptible spiritual body of man that could dwell in the heavens, appearing from the physical body after the judgment of the dead was passed (if successful) with all of the mental and spiritual abilities of a living body.

Ba

has sometimes been equalized with our concept of the soul, (the definition of which also varies according to whom you may ask) but there are several differences.
The Ba refers to all those non-physical qualities that make up the personality of a human. But it also has to do with power - and gods as well as humans can have a Ba. Certain deities were even described as being the Ba of another god, i.e. the Ba of Re was the Benu bird at Heliopolis, and the Apis bull was considered the Ba of Osiris.
An important function of the Ba was to make it possible for the deceased to leave his tomb and rejoin his Ka. As the physical body could no longer do this, the Ba, transformed into a bird with a human head, which could fly between the tomb and the underworld. It was also believed that the Ba could take on any form it chose, and that it had to reunite with the deceased every night in order for the deceased person to live forever and become an Akh; an ancestor.
So the Ba was very much attached to the physical body, contrary to the concept of the soul or the spirit. It was even thought that the Ba had physical needs, like food and water.

Now just imagine what the Reptilians would do with this.....:shocked:

And here is a good read on Sahu

http://www.robertmasters.org/sekhmet/6.html

New Age Messiah

12-19-2009, 07:57 AM

This is what I say Locke is on LOST....

"The Akh, Khu and Sahu:

Before moving on to further discussion of ritual there are several other Ancient Egyptian concepts that will aid you as you develop in your practice. One is the Akh, sometimes referred to as the Khu. This term means "transfigured spirit," the "shining one" or "luminous one." Beyond the Ba this spiritual body is one's higher spiritual self, the immortal spirit or, as the Ancient Egyptians explained, that part of the person that is "imperishable" (West 1985.65).

Egyptologist A. Lloyd explains that the Akh "differs in character from all the other entities as it represents the total person in a state of beautitude and power beyond the grave, i.e., nothing less than the deceased reconstituted and placed in all respects in a position where he can function according to the Egyptian concept of the blessed dead" (Lloyd 1989.117-133). From here the highest state being, known as Sahu to the Ancient Egyptians, may be attained. Sahu is, in essence, a union with the Neteru; a merging with the divine. This is the ultimate goal of the magician following the Ancient Egyptian path."

http://www.hwt-hrw.com/Bodies.php

BROOK

12-19-2009, 08:05 AM

One more connection, this get's a little complicate...but follow me as I go...

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion2.gif
The Andromedan's (Alex Collier, Leading Edge Web Page) confirm our life wave arrived from a symmetry set dimension which makes us "royalty" genetically. When we compare their perspective with the Thoth/Tehuti Overview of Galactic History, certain very dramatic confirmations emerge:
+the Adam&Eve genetic experiments we attribute to Elohim/Yalweh/Annunaki are clearly Orion/Draconian & Reptilian. Noah was upset when his sons saw the scales on his chest.
+what Thoth calls a "quarantine" for Earth's isolation from Galactic contact, has become a major vortex for the wars sweeping the Galaxy between Orion/Draconian vs. Pleadian vs. Andromedan civilizations.
The major issue at hand seems to "revolve" around the extreme power which glandular emotions can leverage to magnetically quite literally bend galaxies. When DNA's recursive braid embeds enough fractal spin, the morphic resonance produces what Thoth calls: "a galactically resonant" individual. He has given this as a reason to lift the Federation quarantine against the fear and aggression radiating from Earth.

So, we suggest you read the addendum here from Andromeda. Evidence suggests that many government officials are relying on this same source for their local galactic news. The question we suggest you ask yourself as you read this, is why is such a big chunk of the galaxies intelligent population willing to risk their lives to see that Earth gets to evolve? It may be a bit more than an interesting petri dish for DNA here. Apparently, most of the many ET's who messed with the cooking up of our planet's DNA, did so for very self-serving reasons. They were looking to get the braid right so that the magnetic spin launched from the short cellular microwave lept Madalenically right up the tower to trans light time travel. The physics of this is that in pent based, PHI Golden Mean optimized braid recursion, piezoelectric helicity extends wave spin leverage coupling across potentially infinite distances between wave lengths and velocities.
(In other words, re-pent and be saved, means interfere with infinite constructive in Golden Mean pentagonal symmetry so that length and velocity wave multiples can reach through the light horizon time event wormhole, only the pent/dodec/wratchet into DNA can achieve this biologically) (in a pent symmetry the wave interference adds and multiplies inifinitely constructively in PHI ratio, permitting not just wave length but wave velocity modes to carry pattern memory through light speed event and recursion horizons. This is why all biological life EL EYE PHI symmetry is Pentagonal.) .

pent in 3D is dodec/icos/dodec infinite fractal nest = Zodiac 12 faced, earth grid dodec/DNA dodec wratchet:
In OTHER words, properly braided DNA is the ONLY way to get biological memories squeezed up in coherent velocities and spin densities sufficient for galactic time travel and black hole penetration. Now if our whole galactic sector were about to go through a NEXUS vortex requiring spin density translation requiring such a coherence penetration through a light barrier event horizon, guess WHO would get to survive through the wormhole? Only those who had learned to fabricate their species in a DNA geometry with enough braid coherence could get their memories through this zero point, or "near death" harmonic concreteness time recursion event.
In "spiritual" parlance, this is known as "get a soul".

So, here on Earth, having a soul means having enough magnetic spin harmonic cascades around recursive DNA, to keep biological memories wormhole to some connective... sort of like having a Draconian crystal implant to a central automaton computer, only LOTS different/ better. Better, specifically because spin paths up and down this ladder of life recursion braid, are all only tests based on the simple share ability of spin memory. In other words pure intention is the only survivor through traffic jams of spin pressure.
Now the storal to this mory was that DNA appears to get its greatest how to braid info from the EKG at the moment of compassion or emotion, or fear, so...............

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/emotion.html
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Thoth/Tehuti
There are one thousand Masters working to achieve this goal. Understand that the Discus project, which we call ‘Hadauramkcha,’ in actuality, began in Lemuria shortly after the separation of the Adamic Tribes. Its manifest form at that time was a living creation, what we might describe in your perception as an etheric-physical high devic being. It was created by the spiritualized thoughts of many people desiring unity in consciousness. In that age human beings still contained the ability to project thoughts into manifest form, and thus the Hadauramkcha was brought into the circle of life. This entity form fed the people as manna from Heaven. It sustained their seed of divinity and they nourished it in return. However, some became too dependent on this creation, seeing it as separate from their own divinity, which out pictured it, and began to worship the Hadauramkcha as a Goddess unto itself. Seeing this division from the divine plan, the one thousand Masters disengaged the life force from the Golden Lotus, and the discharge was taken back into the consciousness of those many who brought it into being. Because certain of these souls were not balanced with their own God-Self, the re-receiving of the charge caused them to become as nomads wandering in the desert of a dispirited mind. They were known as the ‘Kumtshee’—‘those who are without the seed.’ The masters of the Golden Lotus sorrowed for the Kumtshee, but they could not allow the vampirizing of this sacred manna. It had been intended as an outward manifestation of the Divine Spirit in all creation. Those who sought to control it and worship it must come into the fold of their own spirit before they could accept non-attachment to the Golden Lotus.

I won't copy the whole thing..here is the link :wink2:

http://www.ar-t.org/Salient_Words/By_Individuals/Thoth_Tehuti/thoth_tehuti.html

BROOK

12-19-2009, 08:28 AM

This is what I say Locke is on LOST....

You won't find that ceremony on the internet....and if you are Ma'at....you know of which ceremony I speak, and the room in which it was performed :wink2:

New Age Messiah

12-19-2009, 08:33 AM

You won't find that ceremony on the internet....and if you are Ma'at....you know of which ceremony I speak, and the room in which it was performed :wink2:

Ma'at spoke to me, I am not Her. :original:

Well, in a sense, I am Her being. So are all of us. Ma'at is the universe. I have seen Her in the clouds. Mother Nature...

BROOK

12-19-2009, 04:07 PM

orthodoxymoron..now looking into Amen Ra....it would not hurt to take a look at Thoth... here are a few passages, and a link. Just understand what is said and take it into context to where it is you're going with this thread...hmmm :wink2:

Thoth, God of the Moon, Magic and Writing...

The wisest of the Egyptian gods was Thoth (Djhuty, Djehuty, Tehuty), the baboon and ibis god of the moon. Thoth was the god who overcame the curse of Ra, allowing Nut to give birth to her five children, with his skill at games. It was he who helped Isis work the ritual to bring Osiris back from the dead, and who drove the magical poison of Set from her son, Horus with the power of his magic. He was Horus' supporter during the young god's deadly battle with his uncle Set, helping Horus with his wisdom and magic. It was Thoth who brought Tefnut, who left Egypt for Nubia in a sulk after an argument with her father, back to heaven to be reunited with Ra.

When Ra retired from the earth, he appointed Thoth and told him of his desire to create a Light-soul in the Duat and in the Land of the Caves, and it was over this region that the sun god appointed Thoth to rule, ordering him to keep a register of those who were there, and to mete out just punishments to them. Thoth became the representation of Ra in the afterlife, seen at the judgment of the dead in the 'Halls of the Double Ma'at.

The magical powers of Thoth were so great, that the Egyptians had tales of a 'Book of Thoth', which would allow a person who read the sacred book to become the most powerful magician in the world. The Book which "the god of wisdom wrote with his own hand" was, though, a deadly book that brought nothing but pain and tragedy to those that read it, despite finding out about the "secrets of the gods themselves" and "all that is hidden in the stars".

Originally, Thoth was a god of creation, but was later thought to be the one who civilized men, teaching them civic and religious practices, writing, medicine, music and magic. It was Thoth who was thought to have taught men the mode and pronunciation of his writing - prayers and magic spells could fail if not intoned correctly - and so he was the master of magic. He took on many of the roles of Seshat, until she became a dual, female version of Thoth.

He was the 'One who Made Calculations Concerning the Heavens, the Stars and the Earth', the 'Reckoner of Times and of Seasons', the one who 'Measured out the Heavens and Planned the Earth'. He was 'He who Balances', the 'God of the Equilibrium' and 'Master of the Balance'. 'The Lord of the Divine Body', 'Scribe of the Company of the Gods', the 'Voice of Ra', the 'Author of Every Work on Every Branch of Knowledge, Both Human and Divine', he who understood 'all that is hidden under the heavenly vault'. Thoth was not just a scribe and friend to the gods, but central to order - ma'at - both in Egypt and in the Duat. He was 'He who Reckons the Heavens, the Counter of the Stars and the Measurer of the Earth'.

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/egypt/index.html (http://www.thekeep.org/%7Ekunoichi/kunoichi/egypt/index.html)

BROOK

12-19-2009, 06:37 PM

Now...orthodoxymoron, do you see a pattern here? :wink2:

BROOK

12-20-2009, 06:16 AM

Listen to what he says about Thoth, and universal design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR9C3QSTpzU

New Age Messiah

12-20-2009, 10:07 AM

Listen to what he says about Thoth, and universal design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR9C3QSTpzU

Good video. Tons of stuff like that, for example, the sun is the exact same size as the moon...

orthodoxymoron

12-20-2009, 09:07 PM

Thank-you for the last several posts. I haven't studied them in detail yet. I will later today. Here is one more rather irreverent video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1CWBKRWIg0&feature=related If we can study Egyptology and the Bible...side by side...we may lose our faith and gain our faith...simultaneously. Keeping Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom at the center of such a study would be most beneficial. I predict the emergence of a New Theology which will be interdisciplinary...and which will be a lot like science fiction...except it won't be fiction. I really think that what we discuss in Avalon will be a foundational part of this New Theology which will have Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom at it's core. That's my bias. But I think that it's going to be a very rough and rocky journey...and that a lot of good people are going to go insane, divorce, suicide...and get involved in all sorts of dangerous cults and practices. You may want to keep going to church...while studying all of the disruptive information...to avoid jumping out of the frying-pan, and into the fire. A lot of people are in the process of getting their fingers burnt...right up to their armpits. Don't be one of them.

Tangentially...consider Amen Ra, Hathor, Mary, Lucifer, Satan, Jesus, and God. Also consider the Goa'uld in Stargate SG1. Start connecting the dots. Once again...this is going to take a lot of courage and thick skin. And don't ridicule anyone. Use extreme caution and tact. Don't destroy good people. We need them.

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

12-23-2009, 07:43 AM

I'm going to try to spend some quality time with Egyptology...which could be the key to a lot of things...including properly understanding the Bible and the history of most religions. We may all have more in common than we realize. Stargate SG1 may help us to connect a lot of dots. Science fiction may contain more truth than we think. I think the PTB (many of them) want us to get informed...without going crazy. Science fiction may be one of the best ways of helping us to 'get it'. We can be dangerously irrational at times...and disclosure may have to occur here and there...with truth and fiction intermingled...over a period of many years. I think we are about half-way through the disclosure process...and I think that the disorientation and disillusionment will be profound. Egypt and North Africa may have a lot to do with disclosure. Take a very close look at Hathor, Amen Ra, and the Giza Plateau. Just a hunch. Watch the videos in the first post...as a group...and then connect the dots. We live in very interesting times.

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

12-23-2009, 03:48 PM

Now...orthodoxymoron, do you see a pattern here? :wink2:

Sorry BROOK that I'm taking so long to reply. I got distracted...and I still need to think about all of this a lot more. However...Hathor is the one who I find the most interesting. I'm not sure exactly why...but I am suspecting that Hathor (Lucifer and possibly Eve?) is behind everything...a goddess giving birth to all the other gods and goddesses...including the God of the Bible (but not the Founders, Ancients, Creator God of the Universe...of course). Did the winged-serpent (Nibiru/Satan/Reptilians?) deceive Eve (Lucifer/Hathor/Humanity) in the Garden of Eden (Pleiades) leading to War in Heaven (Pleiadian Civil War?) and a forced Exodus to Aldebaran (and later to Earth) by Renegade Pleiadians (us)? A lot of the god and goddess talk may be mythical in general...and BS in particular...but the stories and sacred texts may tell us a lot about the author or creator of the mythologies and BS! There may also be significant principles and concepts...which we can benefit from. I keep thinking that Hathor/Lucifer is a mixture of good and evil...sanity and insanity...which goes with the territory of being a god or goddess. But deities really should be obsolete in modernity...although appreciated historically. We need to move on...I think.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-23-2009, 03:55 PM

Very much of what you see is mythical...but has a basis of origin. And the key is to read between the lines, and decipher the true meaning of what is said. And how it applies to the natural order of things.

Or in many cases...the unnatural order of things :naughty:

Antonia

12-23-2009, 04:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RojmupJJrVg

Hi Oxy.... You probably already know about George Kavassilas (Think I spelt it right) but in these video's he talks about all this.. i love them and go back to them every now and then... he explains Lucifer, Reptilians, and Ra... Ra is in video 8 I think...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tC6G-iLBqI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEMfIh4SPvk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKvmKuCeXY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L6gK7c4mm4&feature=rel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9aRf9oR8rM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPkGwLH43yE&feature=related

George talks about Ra here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txbGqbHgMk8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUiGCPuohKY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s69eXUHLeeQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsR9zbsTzg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Tj2Rsqerg&feature=related

BROOK

12-23-2009, 04:18 PM

To zero in on Hathor....myth has it that...although there are inconsistencies in the stories....Hathor was also thought to be the wife of Thoth ....it's written..check it out.

Which brings us back to Thoth.

orthodoxymoron

12-23-2009, 04:28 PM

Thank-you Brook and Antonia. There is so much to digest. I'm watching the videos presently.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-23-2009, 04:58 PM

Hathor and Thoth..From the "Origins of Sin"

They are both deities of the underworld who are favorites in prayers of the deceased. Thoth is the psycho pomp who takes the deceased to heaven on his wings and initiates the deceased into his secret wisdom. Hathor will offer the deceased a precious drink from her tree and will let him sit beside her under her tree. "I sit under the branches of the tree in the vicinity of Hathor". "The wings of the sky-doors will be opened for thy beauty (person). Thou resist up. Thou see-st Hathor." The butchers who have to prepare the sacred offering are told "move your arm for the consecrated gift for the Lord of Eternity (Thoth) and to the Mistress of Inebriety (Hathor), so that they might receive him who brings this (gift) as a blessed one (in the hereafter)". (Thoth and Hathor). Hathor is also the Asherah, the vegetation Goddess who is present in her sacred sycamore tree, and gives nourishment from the midst of her tree even in the underworld.

Each is involved in different myths in healing the sacred moon eye of Horus which was struck out by Seth. Hathor heals the eye with the milk of a Gazelle. Thoth in restoring the moon eye to fullness is the healing magician who can make whole was has been already destroyed. The eye becomes a symbol of eternal regeneration which resurrects the dead Osiris in the underworld, thus identifying Thoth-Hermes with the cult of eternal life. Hathor makes a journey to Heliopolis "bearing the writings of the words of Thoth" - the so-called Book of Thoth, which is regarded as the secret book of magic power, in modern times to become a title for the Tarot. Both are pivotal in the life of Egyptian kings. It is Thoth who permits Re to fertilize the Queen and Hathor who suckles the young King.

The legends of Thoth and Hathor include a charming and pivotal myth of historic rapprochement between God and Goddess. Hathor as Tefnet, the savage lioness, was in the Nubian desert, in her militant angry form, devastating humanity as the angry searing sun eye. To save humanity, Thoth was sent to Hathor. He spoke his sacred words of wisdom to her calming her and inviting her to come willingly to the land of Egypt to become the joyful Goddess of fertility, dance, song and particularly inebriety - sex, drugs and rock and roll! The Maternal mysterium tremendum is thus accommodated to the human condition, despite retaining the essence of her tumultuous nature. It remains part of Thoth's duty to calm down Hathor each day. "Hathor is the divine being who daily brings good fortune to man whom Thoth wishes may have a rich and sound life"

Seti I giving offerings to Thoth and to Hathor
Moon Eye of Horus or Udjat

http://www.dhushara.com/book/orsin/hathoth.jpg

http://www.dhushara.com/book/orsin/origsin2.htm

orthodoxymoron

12-23-2009, 09:12 PM

Thank-you BROOK. Stargate SG1 uses the 'sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll' line in the 'Hathor' episode. This episode shows Hathor being happy when she learns that Amen Ra has been killed. Hathor is also shown as being the creator of all the other gods and goddesses...and the creator of the Goa'uld larva (creepy).

I'm a simple and uninitiated person...and I keep thinking in terms of the following:

1. Evolution/Creation of the Universe.
2. Evolution/Creation of the Human and Reptilian Races.
3. Human Theocratic Rule.
4. Human vs Reptilian War in Lyra. Reptilians Win. Founders Destroyed.
5. Reptilian Theocratic Rule.
6. Lucifer Rebels Against Reptilian Theocratic Rule in the Pleiades.
7. Lucifer and Followers Flee to Aldebaran...then to Sirius...then to Earth...where Mercenary Reptilians Provide Protection in Exchange for Work and Worship. Still a Theocracy...but Better Than the Pleiadian/Reptilian Theocracy.
8. Reptilians and Humans Agree to End Hostilities and Theocratic Rule.
9. New Universal Order Based Upon Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom.

This is my fairy-tale...and probably 30% of it is true. Unfortunately...I don't know which 30%.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-23-2009, 10:47 PM

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 06:12 AM

Amen-Ra!? Wait! Wait! Why are you talking about meeee!!?!?

Sorry sorry. I couldn't help it. I've been called Amen-Ra more than once. It is also a name I connect wth. :)

Ahem. Yes. Back t your regularly scheduled program. >.>

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 06:48 AM

orthodoxymoron

12-25-2009, 06:57 AM

WinterWolf: We might be shocked if we knew our full reincarnational histories. I won't do regression hypnosis. I worry about regressive interference and deception. I also worry about who I might have been...and how badly I might have $crewed things up. At times...I'm almost frantic when I think about Universal and Earth History. It's so overwhelming if you really face yourself...and think. It only hurts when I think. I indulge in the masturbation of the mind...which is quite painful...and which is causing me to become spiritually blind. :smoke:

:original:Namaste:original:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 06:58 AM

hahaha...yep...and I'm Isis :naughty:

http://library.thinkquest.org/25535/isis.jpg

Actually, I do know who Isis is and I am her counterpart.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 07:00 AM

Actually, I do know who Isis is and I am her counterpart.

Winter Wolf

Do tell?...guess that lets me off the hook..that crown was getting heavy :naughty:

orthodoxymoron

12-25-2009, 07:05 AM

Actually, I do know who Isis is and I am her counterpart.

Winter Wolf

Isis Unveiled. What did Helena Blavatsky know...and when did she know it?

:original:Namaste:original:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 07:44 AM

Do tell?...guess that lets me off the hook..that crown was getting heavy :naughty:

It isn't up to me to reveal who she is. If she wants to be known she may say.

I've actually seen her say who she is here before without actually admitting it outright.

I thought it was sort of funny considering I never thought she'd just drop hints all over the place like that and no one noticed but me.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 08:08 AM

Ahhh..so she is here....interesting :naughty: We are in good company then

orthodoxymoron

12-25-2009, 08:09 AM

ISIS: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
This article discusses the ancient goddess Isis. For other uses, see Isis (disambiguation).

Originally, the goddess Isis was portrayed as a woman, wearing a headress shaped like a throne.
Goddess of motherhood, magic and fertility
Major cult center Philae, Abydos
Symbol the throne, the sun disk with cow's horn, the sycamore tree
Parents Geb and Nut
Siblings Osiris, Set and Nephthys
Consort Osiris
Children Horus and Anubis (Anubis is fostered)
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Isis was a goddess in Ancient Egyptian religious beliefs, whose worship spread throughout the Greco-Roman world. She was worshiped as the ideal mother and wife as well as the patron of nature and magic. She was the friend of slaves, sinners, artisans, the downtrodden, as well as listening to the prayers of the wealthy, maidens, aristocrats and rulers.[1] Isis is the Goddess of motherhood, magic and fertility.

The goddess Isis (the mother of Horus) was the first daughter of Geb, god of the Earth, and Nut, the goddess of the Overarching Sky, and was born on the fourth intercalary day. At some time Isis and Hathor had the same headdress. In later myths about Isis, she had a brother, Osiris, who became her husband, and she then was said to have conceived Horus. Isis was instrumental in the resurrection of Osiris when he was murdered by Set. Her magical skills restored his body to life after she gathered the body parts that had been strewn about the earth by Set.[2] This myth became very important in later Egyptian religious beliefs.

Isis is also known as the goddess of simplicity, protector of the dead and goddess of children from whom all beginnings arose. In later myths, the Ancient Egyptians believed that the Nile River flooded every year because of her tears of sorrow for her dead husband, Osiris. This occurrence of his death and rebirth was relived each year through rituals. The worship of Isis eventually spread throughout the Greco-Roman world, continuing until the suppression of paganism in the Christian era.[3]

The pronunciation for this deity is a mispronunciation of the Greek name which itself changed the original Egyptian name spelling by the addition of a last "-s" because of the grammatical requirements of Greek endings.

The Egyptian name was recorded as ỉs.t or ȝs.t and meant "(She of the) Throne." The true Egyptian pronunciation remains uncertain, however, because their writing system usually did not feature vowels. Based on recent studies which present us with approximations based on contemporary languages and Coptic evidence, the reconstructed pronunciation of her name is [*ˈʔuː.sat], -Usat. (Osiris's name—that is, -Usir or -Wsir—also starts with the throne glyph ʔs ("-s").) The name survived in Coptic dialects as Ēse or Ēsi, as well as in compound words surviving in names of later people such as "Har-si-Ese", literally, "Horus, son of Isis".

For convenience, Egyptologists arbitrarily choose to pronounce her name as "ee-set". Sometimes they may also say "ee-sa" because the final "t" in her name was a feminine suffix, which is known to have been dropped in speech during the last stages of the Egyptian language.

Literally, her name means "she of the throne". Her original headdress was a throne. As the personification of the throne, she was an important representation of the pharaoh's power, as the pharaoh was depicted as her child, who sat on the throne she provided. Her cult was popular throughout Egypt, but the most important sanctuaries were at Giza and at Behbeit El-Hagar in the Nile delta, which was in Lower Egypt.

The Goddess Isis, wall painting, c. 1360 B.C.Her origins are uncertain, but are believed to have come from the Nile Delta. Unlike other Egyptian deities, however, she did not have a centralized cult at any point throughout her worship. This may be because of the late ascendancy of her cult to prominence. First mentions of Isis date back to the Fifth dynasty of Egypt which is when the first literary inscriptions are found, but her cult became prominent late in Egyptian history, when it began to absorb the cults of many other goddesses with strong cult centers. This is when the cult of Osiris arose and she became such an important figure in those beliefs. Her cult eventually spread outside Egypt.

During the formative centuries of Christianity, the religion of Isis drew converts from every corner of the Roman Empire. In Italy itself, the Egyptian faith was a dominant force. At Pompeii, archaeological evidence reveals that Isis played a major role. In Rome, temples were built and obelisks erected in her honour. In Greece, traditional centres of worship in Delos, Delphi, and Eleusis were taken over by followers of Isis, and this occurred in northern Greece and Athens as well. Harbours of Isis were to be found on the Arabian Sea and the Black Sea. Inscriptions show followers in Gaul, Spain, Pannonia, Germany, Arabia, Asia Minor, Portugal and many shrines even in Britain.[4]

Temple of Isis (Pompeii)
Temple of Isis in Rome - remains of the Sanctuary Isiaco, the Janiculum (via Dandolo)[2]Most Egyptian deities first appeared as very local cults and throughout their history retained those local centres of worship, with most major cities and towns widely known as the home of these deities. Isis originally was an independent and popular deity established in predynastic times, prior to 3100 B.C., at Sebennytos in the northern delta.[5]

Eventually temples to Isis began to spread outside of Egypt. In many locations, particularly Byblos, her cult took over that of worship to the Semitic goddess Astarte, apparently due to the similarity of names and associations. During the Hellenic era, due to her attributes as a protector and mother, as well as a lusty aspect gained when she absorbed some aspects of Hathor, she became the patron goddess of sailors, who spread her worship with the trading ships circulating the Mediterranean Sea.

Likewise, the Arabian goddess Al-Ozza or Al-Uzza العُزّى (al ȝozza), whose name is close to that of Isis, is believed to be a manifestation of her. This, however, is thought to be based on the similarity in the name.

Throughout the Graeco-Roman world, Isis became one of the most significant of the mystery religions, and many classical writers refer to her temples, cults, and rites.

Temples to Isis were built in Iraq, Greece and Rome, with a well preserved example discovered in Pompeii. At Philae her worship persisted until the sixth century, long after the rise of Christianity and the subsequent suppression of paganism. The cult of Isis and Osiris continued up until the 6th century AD on the island of Philae in Upper Nile. The Theodosian decree (in about 380 AD) to destroy all pagan temples was not enforced there until the time of Justinian. This toleration was due to an old treaty made between the Blemyes-Nobadae and Diocletian. Every year they visited Elaphantine and at certain intervals took the image of Isis up river to the land of the Blemyes for oracular purposes before returning it. Justinian sent Narses to destroy the sanctuaries, with the priests being arrested and the divine images taken to Constantinople.[6] Philae was the last of the ancient Egyptian temples to be closed.

Little information on Egyptian rituals for Isis survives, however, it is clear there were both priests and priestesses officiating at her cult rituals throughout its entire history. By the Greco-Roman era, many of them were healers, and were said to have many other special powers, including dream interpretation and the ability to control the weather, which they did by braiding or not combing their hair. The latter was believed because the Egyptians considered knots to have magical powers.

Because of this association between knots and magical power, a symbol of Isis was the tiet or tyet (meaning welfare/life), also called the Knot of Isis, Buckle of Isis, or the Blood of Isis, which is shown to the right. In many respects the tyet resembles an ankh, except that its arms point downward, and when used as such, seems to represent the idea of eternal life or resurrection. The meaning of Blood of Isis is more obscure, but the tyet often was used as a funerary amulet made of red wood, stone, or glass, so this may simply have been a description of the appearance of the materials used.

The star, Spica, (sometimes called Lute Bearer), and the constellation which roughly corresponds to the modern Virgo, appeared in the sky above the horizon at a time of year associated with the harvest of wheat and grain, and thus became associated with fertility deities, such as Hathor. Isis would come to be connected with them through her later conflation with Hathor.

Isis also assimilated Sopdet, the personification of the star Sirius, since Sopdet, rising just before the flooding of the Nile, was seen as a bringer of fertility, and so had been identified with Hathor as well. Sopdet retained an element of distinct identity, however, as Sirius was quite visibly a star and not living in the underworld— which might have conflicted with Isis' representation as the wife of Osiris, who was the ruler of the underworld.

Probably due to assimilation with the goddesses Aphrodite and Venus, during the Roman period, the rose was used in her worship. The demand for roses throughout the empire turned rose production into an important industry.

Isis nursing Horus, wearing the headdress of Hathor. In art, originally Isis was pictured as a woman wearing a long sheath dress and crowned with the hieroglyphic sign for a throne. Sometimes she was depicted as holding a lotus, or, as a Sycamore tree. One pharaoh, Hatshepsut, was depicted in her tomb as nursing from a sycamore tree that had a breast.

After she assimilated many of the roles of Hathor, Isis's headdress is replaced with that of Hathor: the horns of a cow on her head, with the solar disk between them. Sometimes she also was represented as a cow, or a cow's head. Usually, however, she was depicted with her young child, Horus (the pharaoh), with a crown, and a vulture. Occasionally she was represented as a kite flying above the body of Osiris or with the dead Osiris across her lap as she worked her magic to bring him back to life.

Most often Isis is seen holding only the generic ankh sign and a simple staff, but in late images she is seen sometimes with items usually associated only with Hathor, the sacred sistrum rattle and the fertility-bearing menat necklace. In The Book of Coming Forth By Day Isis is depicted standing on the prow of the Solar Bark with her arms outstretched.[1]

The star Sept (Sirius) is associated with Isis. The appearance of the star signified the advent of a new year and Isis was likewise considered the goddess of rebirth and reincarnation, and as a protector of the dead. The Book of the Dead outlines a particular ritual that would protect the dead, enabling travel anywhere in the underworld, and most of the titles Isis holds signify her as the goddess of protection of the dead.

Plutarch, a Greek scholar who lived from 46 C.E. to 120 C.E., wrote Isis and Osiris, [7] which is considered a main source about the very late myths about Isis.[8] In it he writes of Isis: "she is both wise, and a lover of wisdom; as her name appears to denote that, more than any other, knowing and knowledge belong to her." and that the shrine of Isis in Sais carried the inscription "I am all that hath been, and is, and shall be; and my veil no mortal has hitherto raised." [9] At Sais, however, the patron goddess of its ancient cult was Neith, many of whose traits had begun to be attributed to Isis during the Greek occupation. In The Golden Ass the Roman writer Apuleius later gives us his understanding of Isis in the second century. The following paragraph is particularly significant:

“ You see me here, Lucius, in answer to your prayer. I am nature, the universal Mother, mistress of all the elements, primordial child of time, sovereign of all things spiritual, queen of the dead, queen of the ocean, queen also of the immortals, the single manifestation of all gods and goddesses that are, my nod governs the shining heights of Heavens, the wholesome sea breezes. Though I am worshipped in many aspects, known by countless names ... some know me as Juno, some as Bellona ... the Egyptians who excel in ancient learning and worship call me by my true name...Queen Isis. ”

When seen as the deification of the wife of the pharaoh in later myths, the prominent role of Isis was as the assistant to the deceased pharaoh. Thus she gained a funerary association, her name appearing over eighty times in the Pyramid Texts, and she was said to be the mother of the four deities who protected the canopic jars—more specifically, Isis was viewed as protector of the liver-jar-deity, Imsety. This association with the pharaoh's wife also brought the idea that Isis was considered the spouse of Horus (once seen as her child), who was protector, and later the deification of the pharaoh. By the Middle Kingdom, the 11th through 14th dynasties between 2040 and 1640 B.C., as the funeral texts began to be used by more members of Egyptian society, other than the royal family, her role also grows to protect the nobles and even the commoners.

By the New Kingdom, the 18th, 19th, and 20th dynasties between 1570 and 1070 B.C., Isis gained prominence as the mother and protector of the pharaoh. During this period, she is said to breastfeed the pharaoh and often is depicted doing so.

The role of her name and her throne-crown is uncertain. Some early Egyptologists believed that being the throne-mother was Isis's original function, however, a more modern view states that aspects of that role came later by association. In many African tribes, the throne is known as the mother of the king, and that concept fits well with either theory, possibly giving insight into the thinking of ancient Egyptians.

Rare terracotta image of Isis lamenting the loss of Osiris (eighteenth dynasty) Musée du Louvre, ParisIn the Old Kingdom, the 3rd Dynasty through to the 6th Dynasty dated between 2,686 to 2,134 B.C., the pantheons of individual Egyptian cities varied by region. During the 5th dynasty, Isis became one of the Ennead of the city of Heliopolis. She was believed to be a daughter of Nut and Geb, and sister to Osiris, Nephthys, and Set. The two sisters, Isis and Nephthys, often were depicted on coffins, with wings outstretched, as protectors against evil. As a funerary deity, she was associated with Osiris, lord of the underworld (Duat), and was considered his wife.

A later mythology (ultimately a result of the replacement of another deity, Anubis, of the underworld when the cult of Osiris gained more authority), tells us of the birth of Anubis. The tale describes how Nephthys was denied a child by Set and disguised herself as the much more attractive Isis to seduce him. The plot failed, but Osiris now found Nephthys very attractive, as he thought she was Isis. They coupled, resulting in the "birth" of Anubis. Alternatively, Nephthys had intentionally assumed the form of Isis in order to trick Osiris into fathering her son. In fear of Set's retribution upon them, Nephthys persuaded Isis to adopt Anubis, so that Set would not find out and kill the child. The tale describes both why Anubis is seen as an underworld deity (he becomes a son of Osiris), and why he could not inherit Osiris's position (he was not a legitimate heir in this new birth scenario), neatly preserving Osiris's position as lord of the underworld. It should be remembered, however, that this new myth was only a later creation of the Osirian cult who wanted to depict Set in an evil position, as the enemy of Osiris.

In another Osirian myth, Set had a banquet for Osiris in which he brought in a beautiful box and said that whoever could fit in the box perfectly would get to keep it. Seth had measured Osiris in his sleep and made sure that he was the only one who could fit the box. Several tried to see whether they fit. Once it was Osiris's turn to see if he could fit in the box, Seth closed the lid on him so that the box was now a coffin for Osiris. Set flung the box in the Nile so that it would drift far away. Isis went looking for the box so that Osiris could have a proper burial. She found the box in a tree in Byblos, a city along the Phoenician coast, and brought it back to Egypt, hiding it in a swamp. But Set went hunting that night and found the box. Enraged, Set chopped Osiris's body into fourteen pieces and scattered them all over Egypt to assure that Isis could never find Osiris again for a proper burial.[10][11] Isis and her sister Nephthys went looking for these pieces, but could only find thirteen of the fourteen. Fish had swallowed the last piece, his phallus, so Isis made him a new one with magic, putting his body back together after which they conceived Horus. The number of pieces is described on temple walls variously as fourteen and sixteen, and occasionally forty-two, one for each nome or district.[11]

When the cult of Ra rose to prominence he became associated with the similar deity, Horus. For some time, Isis intermittently had been paired as the wife of Ra. Since she was the mother of Horus, he then became the child of Ra as well. A merging of the two male deities resulted in Ra-Horakhty. Hathor had been paired with Ra as well in some regions and when Isis began to be paired with Ra, soon Hathor and Isis began to be merged in some regions also as, Isis-Hathor. Another variant occurred in the Ennead, with Isis as a child of Atum-Ra, making her become the child of Hathor since Hathor had become paired with Ra. This also led to the merger of Hathor and Isis frequently, because of common characteristics.

Isis nursing Horus, (Louvre)By merging with Hathor, Isis became the mother of Horus, rather than his wife, and thus, when beliefs of Ra absorbed Atum into Atum-Ra, it also had to be taken into account that Isis was one of the Ennead, as the wife of Osiris. It had to be explained how Osiris, however, who (as lord of the dead) being dead, could be considered a father to Horus, who was not considered dead. This conflict in themes led to the evolution of the idea that Osiris needed to be resurrected, and therefore, to the Legend of Osiris and Isis, of which Plutarch's Greek description written in the first century A.D., De Iside et Osiride, contains the most extensive account known today. [12]

Yet another set of late myths detail the adventures of Isis after the birth of Osiris's posthumous son, Horus. Isis was said to have given birth to Horus at Khemmis, thought to be located on the Nile Delta.[13] Many dangers faced Horus after birth, and Isis fled with the newborn to escape the wrath of Set, the murderer of her husband. In one instance, Isis heals Horus from a lethal scorpion sting; she also performs other miracles in relation to the cippi, or the plaques of Horus. Isis protected and raised Horus until he was old enough to face Set, and subsequently, became the pharaoh of Egypt.

In order to resurrect Osiris for the purpose of having the child Horus, it was necessary for Isis to "learn" magic (which long had been her domain before the cult of Ra arose), and so it was said that Isis tricked Ra (i.e. Amun-Ra/Atum-Ra) into telling her his "secret name," by causing a snake to bite him, for which only Isis had the cure. The names of deities were secret and not divulged to any but the religious leaders. Knowing the secret name of a deity enabled one to have power of the deity. That he would use his "secret name" to "survive" implies that the serpent had to be a more powerful deity than Ra. The oldest deity known in Egypt was Wadjet, the Egyptian cobra, whose cult never was eclipsed in Ancient Egyptian religion. As a deity from the same region, she would have been a benevolent resource for Isis. The use of secret names became central in late Egyptian magic spells, and Isis often is implored to "use the true name of Ra" in the performance of rituals. By the late Egyptian historical period, after the occupations by the Greeks and the Romans, Isis became the most important and most powerful deity of the Egyptian pantheon because of her magical skills. Magic is central to the entire mythology of Isis, arguably more so than any other Egyptian deity.

Prior to this late change in the nature of Egyptian religion, the rule of Ma'at had governed the correct actions for most of the thousands of years of Egyptian religion, with little need for magic. Thoth had been the deity who resorted to magic when it was needed. The goddess which held the quadruple roles of healer, protector of the canopic jars, protector of marriage, and goddess of magic previously had been Serket. She then became considered an aspect of Isis. Thus it is not surprising that Isis had a central role in Egyptian magic spells and ritual, especially those of protection and healing. In many spells, she also is completely merged even with Horus, where invocations of Isis are supposed to involve Horus's powers automatically as well. In Egyptian history the image of a wounded Horus became a standard feature of Isis's healing spells, which typically invoked the curative powers of the milk of Isis. (Silverman, Ancient Egypt, 135)

Mut, a primal deity called, mother, was originally a title of the primordial waters of the cosmos, the mother from which the cosmos emerged. When the pairing of the deities began, Mut became a consort of Amun, who already had been assigned a quite different wife. After the authority of Thebes had risen during the eighteenth dynasty, and made Amun into a much more significant god, the cult later waned, and Amun was assimilated into Ra.

In consequence, Amun's consort, Mut, by then a depicted as a doting, adoptive[14] mother—who by this point had absorbed other goddesses herself—also was assimilated into Ra's wife, Isis-Hathor as Mut-Isis-Nekhbet. On occasion, Mut's infertility was taken into consideration[citation needed], and so Horus, who was too significant to ignore, had to be explained by saying that Isis became pregnant by magic when she transformed herself into a kite and flew over the dead body of Osiris.

Later myths became quite convoluted. Mut's consort was Amun, who had by this time become identified with Min as Amun-Min (also known by his epithet - Kamutef). Since Mut had become part of Isis, it was natural to try to make Amun, part of Osiris, the husband of Isis, but this was not easily reconcilable, because Amun-Min was a fertility god and Osiris was the god of the dead. Consequently they remained regarded as separate, and Isis sometimes was said to be the lover of Min. Subsequently, as at this stage Amun-Min was considered an aspect of Ra (Amun-Ra). He was also considered an aspect of Horus, since Horus was identified as Ra, and thus Isis's son, was on rare occasions said to be Min instead, which neatly avoided confusion over Horus's status as being both the husband and son of Isis.

A priestess of Isis, Roman statue, Second Century, B.C.Following the conquest of Egypt by Alexander the Great the worship of Isis spread throughout the Graeco-Roman world.[15] Tacitus writes that after Julius Caesar's assassination, a temple in honour of Isis had been decreed; Augustus suspended this, and tried to turn Romans back to the Roman deities who were closely associated with the state. Eventually the Roman emperor Caligula abandoned the Augustan wariness toward what was described as oriental cults, and it was in his reign that the Isiac festival was established in Rome. According to Josephus, Caligula donned female garb and took part in the mysteries he instituted, and in the Hellenistic age Isis acquired a "new rank as a leading goddess of the Mediterranean world." Vespasian, along with Titus, practised incubation in the Roman Iseum. Domitian built another Iseum along with a Serapeum. Trajan appears before Isis and Horus, presenting them with votive offerings of wine, in a bas-relief on his triumphal arch in Rome.[16] Hadrian decorated his villa at Tibur with Isiac scenes. Galerius regarded Isis as his protectress.[17]

Roman perspectives on cults were syncretic, seeing in new deities, merely local aspects of a familiar one. For many Romans, Egyptian Isis was an aspect of Phrygian Cybele, whose orgiastic rites were long-naturalized at Rome, indeed, she was known as Isis of Ten Thousand Names.

Among these names of Roman Isis, Queen of Heaven is outstanding for its long and continuous history. Herodotus identified Isis with the Greek and Roman goddesses of agriculture, Demeter and Ceres.

In later years, Isis also had temples throughout Europe, Britain, Africa and Asia. An alabaster statue of Isis from the 3rd century BC, found in Ohrid, in the Republic of Macedonia, is depicted on the obverse of the Macedonian 10 denars banknote, issued in 1996.[18]

The male first name "Isidore" (also "Isador"), means in Greek "Gift of Isis" (similar to "Theodore", "God's Gift"). The name, which became common in Roman times, survived the supression of the Isis worship and remains popular up to the present - being among others the name of several Christian saints.

In the Book of the Dead Isis was described as:

She who gives birth to heaven and earth,
She who knows the orphan,
She who knows the widow spider,
She who seeks justice for the poor people,
She who seeks shelter for the weak people
Some of Isis's many other titles were:

Queen of Heaven,
Mother of the Gods,
The One Who is All,
Lady of Green Crops,
The Brilliant One in the Sky,
Star of the Sea,[19]
Great Lady of Magic,
Mistress of the House of Life,
She Who Knows How To Make Right Use of the Heart,
Light-Giver of Heaven,
Lady of the Words of Power,
Moon Shining Over the Sea.

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 08:16 AM

Isis Unveiled. What did Helena Blavatsky know...and when did she know it?

:original:Namaste:original:

I can't speak for her but if you dig enough and pore over enough dusty tomes and do tireless research. You start seeing the patterns within and they slowly yield their secrets to those who truly seek it.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 08:20 AM

My favorite picture of Isis

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/bjraisbeck/susan-boulet-isis-and-osiris.jpg

BROOK

12-25-2009, 08:25 AM

I can't speak for her but if you dig enough and pore over enough dusty tomes and do tireless research. You start seeing the patterns within and they slowly yield their secrets to those who truly seek it.

Winter Wolf

So my guess is she will not come right out and say it here on the forum...just keep dropping hints....:wink2:

So how are you her counterpart?

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 08:26 AM

Ahhh..so she is here....interesting :naughty: We are in good company then

She comes and goes much as I do. :D

Winter Wolf

orthodoxymoron

12-25-2009, 08:29 AM

Could Lucifer, Eve, Hathor, Isis, and Mary really be the same soul? I'm looking for a common origin of the Gods, Goddesses, and Theology. Could this soul be the source of much scripture and sacred writing...including the Teachings of Jesus (which I greatly admire, and attempt to follow)? Could this soul be the source of much of the great architecture of the world...especially of temples and cathedrals? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxEzz3MW6yo Could this soul be the source of much great sacred music...especially the abstract and devilishly difficult French Romantic organ music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4eQH3YPqPw&feature=related Is the male domination of politics and religion really an illusion? Were the leading Men and Gods really Front Men for Lucifer/Eve/Hathor/Isis/Mary. Is this also true in modernity? Have the ladies been in charge all along...while giving men the illusion of leadership? I know I'm grasping at straws...and I know that I have very little to base this theory upon...but I wonder as I wander.

I guess the bottom-line is that the Gods and Goddesses are probably not the Founders or Creator God(s) of the Universe...but that they were and are probably much more brilliant and powerful than 99.99% of us...and that they were and are a mixture of good and evil...sanity and insanity. What I really wish to know is What the Hell Happened to the Founders? On second thought...I'm not sure that I want to know. Anna Hayes, Alex Collier, Stargate SG1, and Battlestar Galactica hint at what happened...but they don't come right out and say it bluntly and concisely. I fear something catastrophic and horrific...but I have absolutely no evidence.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 08:31 AM

She comes and goes much as I do. :D

Winter Wolf

:naughty:

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 08:39 AM

Ma'at was before Isis, i.e. Isis became the "personal" Goddess to replace the rather impersonal Ma'at, which was more a mystical cosmic force/principle.

Ma'at was the universe itself.

And She spoke to me right after (a couple days after) I had a conversation about Her. :original:

And She orchestrated the greatest true story ever told.

Apparently She's getting ready to clean house. :original:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 08:45 AM

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 09:02 AM

That's great...now tell me about that room and the ceremony...what was the purpose?

No purpose or ceremony.

I had a motto that Reality is God, and I flew in the face of Christianity and Jesus and the Bible God, and said how stupid all three were.

Then I got tortured into a black hole, and I accepted if as God, for five years 24x7 torment and incredibly difficult soul navigation...

Then the show LOST became my hobby, and I wrote about it and made theories, and I was spot on, and one of my theories was that the island is a Goddess.

So I am talking to a historian, who says that the Egyptians were the first major civilization to go away from worshipping the Goddess. When he said that, I had this WOW moment, he and I were in this zone, where you get when so few of the people around you have a clue, but you know you're on to something big...

Anyway, a couple days later, I am laying in torture, in my bed, in a black hole, and then She says, "I'm very angry.... cooking".

She said a word before cooking that I missed. Bummer. It was gentle as a breeze without any vibration, it did not stun me whatsoever, it was just there.

Already there were a ton of miracles, so I just kind of went on my way.

A couple weeks later, it soaked in, a Goddess spoke to me. WOW. There really really really is a GODDESS!!!!!!!!!

I mean ABSOLUTELY. DONE DEAL. NO MORE FAITH REQUIRED.

And my motto was true, and She is going to prove it true, I suspect that is what She is cooking, a major KABOOOM, Reality is Goddess, the male god religions are stupid and false, just like I said. :original:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:03 AM

I didn't think so

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 09:04 AM

I didn't think so

Are you trying to say you have to have a ceremony???

You're a joke, if you think you can brush off what I just said.

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:08 AM

Are you trying to say you have to have a ceremony???

You're a joke, if you think you can brush off what I just said.

I'm not brushing it off..I asked a question..that only Ma'at would know..and if she told you...you would know what I speak of...

And if you think I'm a joke....so be it

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 09:10 AM

I'm not brushing it off..I asked a question..that only Ma'at would know..and if she told you...you would know what I speak of...

You're trying to dictate how a Goddess would behave, that's a joke. You're trying to make a Goddess fit into a doctrine. That's a religion.

You fail. :original:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:12 AM

You're trying to dictate how a Goddess would behave, that's a joke. You're trying to make a Goddess fit into a doctrine. That's a religion.

You fail. :original:

I failed :naughty: You know nothing of which I speak

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 09:18 AM

I failed :naughty: You know nothing of which I speak

I have seen a hermetic ceremony, where they summoned a Goddess, and She appeared and spoke.

But that's all She did.

The Goddess that spoke to me orchestrated the greatest true story ever told that is going to end all religions. na na na:tongue2:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:19 AM

I have seen a hermetic ceremony, where they summoned a Goddess, and She appeared and spoke.

But that's all She did.

The Goddess that spoke to me orchestrated the greatest true story ever told that is going to end all religions. na na na:tongue2:

Wrong ceremony...go back and ask which one I speak of..then come back and tell me about it

Better yet..go back and have a look see

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 09:28 AM

Wrong ceremony...go back and ask which one I speak of..then come back and tell me about it

Better yet..go back and have a look see

Vague. Like you have something to tell the New Age Messiah. :mfr_lol:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:29 AM

Vague. Like you have something to tell the New Age Messiah. :mfr_lol:

I have nothing to tell, that you should not already know

New Age Messiah

12-25-2009, 09:34 AM

I have nothing to tell, that you should not already know

:nono: Huh? :nono: Huh? :nono: Huh? :nono:

You're nice. She may stop back by and tell me a thing or two, so I can catch up to you. :original:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 09:35 AM

So my guess is she will not come right out and say it here on the forum...just keep dropping hints....:wink2:

So how are you her counterpart?

Did you know Ra was merged with the god Horus as Re-Horakhty who was then later identified with Amun as Amun-Re?

Ra was Amun-Re or Ra. Oh yes. Ra was also identified with the sun god Atum as well.

"As Atum he was also seen as the first being and the originator of the Ennead, also consisting of Shu and Tefnut, Geb and Nut, Osiris, Set, Isis and Nephthys. (See Ennead for more information about this grouping.)"

I prefer Ra for some who have seen me see a living sun. Anyhow..I digress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

Ra (also spelled Ré) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the fifth dynasty he became a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun, with other deities representing other positions of the sun. Ra changed greatly over time and in one form or another, much later he was said to represent the sun at all times of the day. The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought if not a word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to 'creative'.

The chief cult centre of Ra first was based in Heliopolis (called Inun, "Place of Pillars", in Egyptian), where he was identified with the local sun-god Atum. As Atum he was also seen as the first being and the originator of the Ennead, also consisting of Shu and Tefnut, Geb and Nut, Osiris, Set, Isis and Nephthys. (See Ennead for more information about this grouping.)

In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Re-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). When his worship reached this position of importance in the Egyptian pantheon, he was believed to be in command of the sky, the earth, and the underworld. He was associated with the falcon, the symbol of other sun deities who protected the pharaohs in later myths. After the deities were paired with pharaohs, the children of Hathor were considered to be fathered by Ra. Still later, he was identified with Amun as Amun-Re.

During the Amarna Period, Akhenaten suppressed the cult of Ra in favour of another solar deity Aton, the deified solar disc, but the cult was later restored.

The cult of the Mnevis bull, an embodiment of Ra, had its centre here and established a formal burial ground for the sacrificed bulls north of the city.

In the later myths Ra was seen to have created Sekhmet, the early lion-headed war goddess from Upper Egypt, who became Hathor, the gentle cow goddess, after she has sufficiently punished mankind as the avenging Eye of Ra. This changed the themes of much earlier myths into aspects of Ra and he was often said to be the father of both Hathor and Sekhmet, as well as brother to the god Osiris. Afterward, nearly all forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra alone, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names and eventually humans were created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra."

Isis mother of Horus and daughter of Geb and Nut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis#Mythology

When seen as the deification of the wife of the pharaoh in later myths, the prominent role of Isis was as the assistant to the deceased pharaoh. Thus she gained a funerary association, her name appearing over eighty times in the Pyramid Texts, and she was said to be the mother of the four deities who protected the canopic jars—more specifically, Isis was viewed as protector of the liver-jar-deity, Imsety. This association with the pharaoh's wife also brought the idea that Isis was considered the spouse of Horus (once seen as her child), who was protector, and later the deification of the pharaoh.

See the convoluted connection with Ra becoming Re-Horakhty and then Amun-Ra and Isis with her then son Horus who later becomes her husband?

Talk about convoluted patterns.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:41 AM

Did you know Ra was merged with the god Horus as Re-Horakhty who was then later identified with Amun as Amun-Re?

Ra was Amun-Re or Ra.

I prefer Ra for some who have seen me see a living sun. Anyhow..I digress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

Ra (also spelled Ré) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the fifth dynasty he became a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun, with other deities representing other positions of the sun. Ra changed greatly over time and in one form or another, much later he was said to represent the sun at all times of the day. The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought if not a word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to 'creative'.

The chief cult centre of Ra first was based in Heliopolis (called Inun, "Place of Pillars", in Egyptian), where he was identified with the local sun-god Atum. As Atum he was also seen as the first being and the originator of the Ennead, also consisting of Shu and Tefnut, Geb and Nut, Osiris, Set, Isis and Nephthys. (See Ennead for more information about this grouping.)

In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Re-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). When his worship reached this position of importance in the Egyptian pantheon, he was believed to be in command of the sky, the earth, and the underworld. He was associated with the falcon, the symbol of other sun deities who protected the pharaohs in later myths. After the deities were paired with pharaohs, the children of Hathor were considered to be fathered by Ra. Still later, he was identified with Amun as Amun-Re.

During the Amarna Period, Akhenaten suppressed the cult of Ra in favour of another solar deity Aton, the deified solar disc, but the cult was later restored.

The cult of the Mnevis bull, an embodiment of Ra, had its centre here and established a formal burial ground for the sacrificed bulls north of the city.

In the later myths Ra was seen to have created Sekhmet, the early lion-headed war goddess from Upper Egypt, who became Hathor, the gentle cow goddess, after she has sufficiently punished mankind as the avenging Eye of Ra. This changed the themes of much earlier myths into aspects of Ra and he was often said to be the father of both Hathor and Sekhmet, as well as brother to the god Osiris. Afterward, nearly all forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra alone, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names and eventually humans were created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra."

Isis mother of Horus and daughter of Geb and Nut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis#Mythology

When seen as the deification of the wife of the pharaoh in later myths, the prominent role of Isis was as the assistant to the deceased pharaoh. Thus she gained a funerary association, her name appearing over eighty times in the Pyramid Texts, and she was said to be the mother of the four deities who protected the canopic jars—more specifically, Isis was viewed as protector of the liver-jar-deity, Imsety. This association with the pharaoh's wife also brought the idea that Isis was considered the spouse of Horus (once seen as her child), who was protector, and later the deification of the pharaoh.

See the convoluted connection with Ra becoming Re-Horakhty and then Amun-Ra and Isis with her then son Horus who later becomes her husband?

Talk about convoluted patterns.

Winter Wolf

The Falcon....ahhhh :naughty: That would make you her counterpart :wink2:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 09:49 AM

The Falcon....ahhhh :naughty: That would make you her counterpart :wink2:

:blink: What?

I see you edited the post I just quoted. :lol3: I thought the falcon ahh? Was there more to that? :lol3:

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:51 AM

:blink: What?

Winter Wolf

He was associated with the falcon, the symbol of other sun deities who protected the pharaohs in later myths.
http://www.the2012countdown.com/images/isis.gif

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 09:53 AM

http://www.the2012countdown.com/images/isis.gif

Uh huh. Isis. I always see them together.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:57 AM

She has Falcon Wings :naughty:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 09:58 AM

She has Falcon Wings :naughty:

Yes she does and there is also a sun above her.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 09:59 AM

See the falcon in her wing in this picture?
And the sun above :naughty:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/bjraisbeck/susan-boulet-isis-and-osiris.jpg

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:01 AM

See the falcon in her wing in this picture?
And the sun above :naughty:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/bjraisbeck/susan-boulet-isis-and-osiris.jpg

There are many like it. It isn't the first I've seen. I should say there are other Isis pictures I have seen with the sun paired with her.....

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:02 AM

:nono: Huh? :nono: Huh? :nono: Huh? :nono:

You're nice. She may stop back by and tell me a thing or two, so I can catch up to you. :original:

Please do so..I would be very interested on your version

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:03 AM

There are many like it. It isn't the first I've seen.

Winter Wolf

Yep....I just happen to like that one...it's my fav :thumb_yello:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:07 AM

Yep....I just happen to like that one...it's my fav :thumb_yello:

I haven't seen this particular one before until now but it is a very nice one.

Gotta love the convoluted connections.

Hrm. Have I established myself as being nuts yet? :D

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:09 AM

I haven't seen this particular one before until now but it is a very nice one.

Gotta love the convoluted connections.

Winter Wolf

Yep...gotta love it ...convoluted connections :thumb_yello:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:10 AM

Hrm. Have I established myself as being nuts yet? :D

Winter Wolf

Absolutely.....hahaha:lmfao:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:13 AM

Absolutely.....hahaha:lmfao:

Ah thanks. Twernt nothing. :tongue2: :roll1:

Think I'll scare everyone away now? :blink:

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:14 AM

Ah thanks. Twernt nothing. :tongue2: :roll1:

Think I'll scare everyone away now? :blink:

Winter Wolf

I'm still here...but I tend to do that too....scare them away that is :naughty:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:15 AM

I'm still here...but I tend to to that too....scare them away that is :naughty:

I think some people might think I'm here to...challenge them or something. Why bother? I prefer sensible discourse and dialogue. Meaningful conversations are better.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:18 AM

I think some people might think I'm here to...challenge them or something. Why bother? I prefer sensible discourse and dialogue. Meaningful conversations are better.

Winter Wolf

Exactly...unless they offer you a radiant zone with all the fixings......I'll challenge that any day ...and you know what I'm talking about :wink2:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:28 AM

Exactly...unless they offer you a radiant zone with all the fixings......I'll challenge that any day ...and you know what I'm talking about :wink2:

One person there didn't seem to like answering my questions much. I feel less negative energy on the board now than there was then. The more I cleared it..the more it seemed to coalesce...

Didn't you notice the weird vibes all over the board?

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:32 AM

One person there didn't seem to like answering my questions much. I feel less negative energy on the board now than there was then. The more I cleared it..the more it seemed to coalesce...

Didn't you notice the weird vibes all over the board?

Winter Wolf

Yep...I did see that...and yes...it should calm down soon though, I hope anyway.

I'm learning to just try to get past it....stick with what I know. And let the rest fall to the floor. :naughty:

As in the posts above....I did as you did, and that is all you can do :thumb_yello:
Or I should say//on the other page....

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:36 AM

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:39 AM

Actually I was being rather serious with my posts about Ra and Isis. :P

Winter Wolf

Me too :naughty: I just have to keep my eyes open for the Goddess :wink2:
Now that I know she is around

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:39 AM

Yep...I did see that...and yes...it should calm down soon though, I hope anyway.

I'm learning to just try to get past it....stick with what I know. And let the rest fall to the floor. :naughty:

As in the posts above....I did as you did, and that is all you can do :thumb_yello:
Or I should say//on the other page....

I meant before I left there was more negativity on the board. I am glad to see it isn't as prevalent now. Not sure what was going on back then but all of the nicer folk sort of went poof or at least it seemed like a lot of them went silent.

Uh oh...I've hi-jacked the thread. :shocked: Oops.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:45 AM

Hijacker :tongue2:

Actually....it goes with the thread....and the flow of the information. It seems to get derailed here form the intent a bit....it is about Amen Ra..and you were right on the money :thumb_yello:

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:48 AM

Me too :naughty: I just have to keep my eyes open for the Goddess :wink2:
Now that I know she is around

She's always been around. I just don't address her. :D

Shoot. Hi-jacked again. :sweatdrop:

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 10:55 AM

So I wonder, what roll does she play in the scheme of Amen Ra?...and the convoluted connection to Ra is what I am wondering. Why has she shown her self here, and now?

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 11:07 AM

So I wonder, what roll does she play in the scheme of Amen Ra?...and the convoluted connection to Ra is what I am wondering. Why has she shown her self here, and now?

This is the only place she's come to. It's just that I doubt anyone has ever noticed. :D

Well now. Merry Christmas to you and hope you have a wonderful day.

I think it is about time to make like a ball and bounce out of here. :D

ShooooOOoot. More thread hi-jacking. >.<

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-25-2009, 11:09 AM

Oops...Sorry orthodoxymoron...we didn't mean to hi-jack your thread...Merry Christmas

Later :thumb_yello:

Unified Serenity

12-25-2009, 02:14 PM

It only hurts when I think. I indulge in the masturbation of the mind...which is quite painful...and which is causing me to become spiritually blind. :smoke:

:original:Namaste:original:

Mental BDSM is quite common, do not worry it won't cause blindness, but may give you unexplainable bouts of twitches.

US

BROOK

12-25-2009, 03:34 PM

Mental BDSM is quite common, do not worry it won't cause blindness, but may give you unexplainable bouts of twitches.

US
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxWH5HNEf0Y

Unified Serenity

12-25-2009, 04:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxWH5HNEf0Y

Goddess, I love you! TDF

BROOK

12-25-2009, 04:07 PM

I love you too :wub2:......Whatever

Unified Serenity

12-25-2009, 04:10 PM

I love you too......Whatever :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Bahahahaaaaaaaaaa

Unified Serenity

12-25-2009, 04:12 PM

Now back to the previous serious topic! Control yourselves!

BROOK

12-25-2009, 04:17 PM

Okay now....just ground yourself.....back to the Nile :naughty:

Unified Serenity

12-25-2009, 04:18 PM

Okay now....just ground yourself.....back to the Nile :naughty::lmao::lmao::lmao:

heheeeee stopppppppppppp

BROOK

12-25-2009, 05:07 PM

Back on Track

Amen Ra

http://spiralgoddess.com.phtemp.com/AltarFireBowl.gifhttp://www.hermetic.com/sabazius/amoun.jpghttp://spiralgoddess.com.phtemp.com/AltarFireBowl.gif

http://spiralgoddess.com.phtemp.com/GddsFlame.gifhttp://spiralgoddess.com.phtemp.com/GddsFlame.gifhttp://spiralgoddess.com.phtemp.com/GddsFlame.gifhttp://spiralgoddess.com.phtemp.com/GddsFlame.gif

WinterWolf

12-25-2009, 10:35 PM

orthodoxymoron

12-25-2009, 11:06 PM

I don't know what you people are smoking...but I want some too! :smoke:

BROOK

12-25-2009, 11:35 PM

I don't know what you people are smoking...but I want some too! :smoke:

:naughty:

orthodoxymoron

12-26-2009, 12:04 AM

WinterWolf

12-26-2009, 12:35 AM

:naughty:

I didn't realize I was smoking anything. I am quite lucid thanks.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-26-2009, 12:46 AM

I didn't realize I was smoking anything. I am quite lucid thanks.

Winter Wolf

Me either....but I think he was referring to myself and Unified Serenity...we got a little bit silly here this morning. And ODM...I'm watching the first SG1 video now..thanks :thumb_yello:

BROOK

12-26-2009, 03:13 AM

Here are some key videos (for me anyway). I will add a couple more. I don't know exactly why I'm making this post. I'm in sort of a mental and emotional no man's land aka la-la land. They said I didn't have to take my medicine on Christmas. They lied!!!

1. http://www.fancast.com/tv/Stargate-SG-1/91998/1063988439/The-Torment-of-Tantalus/videos
2. http://www.hulu.com/watch/68254/stargate-sg-1-the-fifth-race
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwKws5JaIM&feature=related
4. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis.htm
5. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis2.htm
6. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor

Well, this SG1 series is quite something....That thing they have going on with the hands is really unique. And the eye thing....hmmmm....reminds me of the Eye of Horus
http://www.dreamstime.com/eye-of-horus-symbol-old-paper-thumb3572057.jpg

he construction of the eye follows very precise laws. The senses are ordered according to their importance. And according to how much energy must be *eaten* by the *eye* for an individual to receive a particular sensation. All of the sensory data input is *food*.Check this out..the math and such involved with the Eye of Horus

http://www.hol.com/~hawmtn/horus.htm (http://www.hol.com/%7Ehawmtn/horus.htm)

don't know much about this site..but thought it was interesting

orthodoxymoron

12-27-2009, 12:53 AM

orthodoxymoron

12-27-2009, 03:24 AM

Are Lucifer/Eve/Hathor/Isis/Mary all the same being? The Goddess of This World? The Hybrid Mediatrix Between the Reptilian (God) and Human (Man) Races? Theanthropos? The script-writer for all of the major religions? Are we merely actors and actresses on a stage called 'Earth: Theater of the Universe'? Were William Shakespere's works written by Francis Bacon? Or were they written by the Goddess of This World? Does a Reptilian/Human Theocracy exist throughout the Universe? Is this the Universal Church? Was the Original Sin committed in Lyra? What was this Original Sin? Did the Human Race Create the Reptilian Race as a Slave Race...and demand Work and Worship? Did the Reptilian Race evolve...and rebel against the Human Race...and win? Did the Reptilian Race proceed to do to the Human Race what had been done to them? If most of the above is true...can there be a reconciliation...or would this be impossible? Could Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom be sucessfully implemented by both races? Could the First and Last Commandment of the Universe be 'Thou Shalt Have No Gods'? Would this signal the end of Star Wars and Masters of the Universe? Would the Empire Strike Bach?

Damned if I know.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-27-2009, 03:59 AM

BROOK

12-27-2009, 04:13 AM

oron;210011]Here is another piece of the puzzle provided by Moxie: http://keyofsolomon.net/ Watch the YouTube videos on the opening page.

Unrelatedly...consider theanthropos, baldacc[/I]hino, co-mediatrix, pontifex maximus, and domschratt. :trumpet: I'm not sure why...but consider them anyway!

Pe rhaps divinity should be the object of collective aspiration...as opposed to individual aspiration and submissive veneration.

:original:Namaste:original:

THE LOST SYMBOL OF RA

That is quite the find :shocked: The RA symbol represents the SUN, but not our sun.....that is very interesting information in the symbol he speaks of.

Great find ODM!!!

WinterWolf

12-27-2009, 04:26 AM

Here is another piece of the puzzle provided by Moxie: http://keyofsolomon.net/ Watch the YouTube videos on the opening page.

Unrelatedly...consider theanthropos, baldacchino, co-mediatrix, pontifex maximus, and domschratt. :trumpet: I'm not sure why...but consider them anyway!

Perhaps divinity should be the object of collective aspiration...as opposed to individual aspiration and submissive veneration.

:original:Namaste:original:

I'll have to take a look at the vids later. The website itself looks interesting.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

12-27-2009, 04:55 AM

I find this symbol most interesting :naughty:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41nKLR8Cp5L.jpg

BROOK

12-27-2009, 04:58 AM

Also...I ran into these...it's number 1C and the explanation that struck me...

http://www.woodyjang.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/thetemple.jpg

1.a This is the sym*bol for sun, which can mean rise, day, hour, time, or the sun god Ra.
1.b This looks like the sym*bol for ‘mouth’ above the bas*ket sym*bol for ‘you’.
1.c This is a ‘scroll’ or ‘book’ above the sym*bol for ‘mul*ti*plic*ity’ which some*times rep*re*sents any term that is too dan*ger*ous to be writ*ten.
1.d I’m ter*ri*ble at dif*fer*en*ti*at*ing birds, but this looks most like the ostrich, which can rep*re*sent the a ‘bou*quet’.
1.e I think this is a spear duck, which means ‘son’, but I’m really unsure.
2.a The sun again, which means rise, day, hour, time, or Ra.
2.b Again, this might be the ostrich.
2.c I believe this is an arm which means ‘to make’.
2.d If I had to take a wild guess, I would say it looks a bit like the feather sym*bol for Ma’at, which usu*ally means order, peace, and jus*tice.
2.e This is a reed tube which can mean ‘farm*yard’ or sim*ply ‘house’.
3.a I have no idea what this sym*bol is.
3.b This is a cat*tle rope or foot chain.
3.c This might be the sym*bol for ‘door bar’, which some*times means ‘destroy’.
4.a This is prob*a*bly the sign for ‘pro*tec*tion’.
4.b Again, this is the sym*bol for ‘mouth’.

Gnosis5

12-27-2009, 05:11 AM

It seems as though we are pretty bad...but that the reps are a lot worse. I'd really like to understand why they are so mean and cruel. Who knows...there may be a legitimate reason (or an understandable reason, at least) why they seem to hate humans so much.

:original:Namaste:original:

That despise for others can be healed, just as we can heal our own racial prejudices here on earth.

Gnosis

orthodoxymoron

12-27-2009, 05:16 AM

Those are a lot of questions there ODM....but the first one, are they all the same...an emphatic NO..they are not all the same.

There is however lots of, as Winter Wolf explains, "Convoluted" history there.

As for Isis...well I think she might have been one of the good ones. Too much in her background, that is righteous, and good to explain away as reptilian. But there is surly a reptilian connection. In fact, I would go so far as to say she may have been manipulated by such a faction of beings. And she somehow fought them back, with their own weapons, and manipulative devise. Probably to her own demise....but this is only a guess.

It seems to me that there has been a single God or Goddess of This World from before our arrival here...right up to this very moment. I'm leaning toward Goddess. Why couldn't a single being manifest as different beings? I think Lucifer got us all here...for the right or wrong reasons...for better or for worse...and then ruled secretly through Gods, Goddesses, Religions, Governments, etc. I get the feeling that the Reptilians look over Lucifer's shoulder...and tell him or her what to do to a significant degree. There could be a very tangled hierarchical web. Ignorance is probably bliss regarding this subject. I don't think there are very many of us who could handle the full impact of the situation we may be in.

I want the Reptilians to back-off...and Lucifer to retire. I want We the People of Earth to rule ourselves responsibly and sovereignly...and for the Reptilians to do likewise. Then perhaps we can constructively interact on a limited basis. This might be a new beginning...but I don't know what the hell I'm talking about or what the hell I'm doing. I don't really know that Reptilians even exist. I've never met one...that I know of...although I have encountered unseen intelligences capable of manipulating physical objects. But they didn't introduce themselves...and I didn't really want them to either.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-27-2009, 05:30 AM

It seems to me that there has been a single God or Goddess of This World from before our arrival here...right up to this very moment. I'm leaning toward Goddess. Why couldn't a single being manifest as different beings? I think Lucifer got us all here...for the right or wrong reasons...for better or for worse...and then ruled secretly through Gods, Goddesses, Religions, Governments, etc. I get the feeling that the Reptilians look over Lucifer's shoulder...and tell him or her what to do to a significant degree. There could be a very tangled hierarchical web. Ignorance is probably bliss regarding this subject. I don't think there are very many of us who could handle the full impact of the situation we may be in.

I want the Reptilians to back-off...and Lucifer to retire. I want We the People of Earth to rule ourselves responsibly and sovereignly...and for the Reptilians to do likewise. Then perhaps we can constructively interact on a limited basis. This might be a new beginning...but I don't know what the hell I'm talking about or what the hell I'm doing. I don't really know that Reptilians even exist. I've never met one...that I know of...although I have encountered unseen intelligences capable of manipulating physical objects. But they didn't introduce themselves...and I didn't really want them to either.

:original:Namaste:original:
From what I'm gathering...it sounds like the "Gods" and "Goddess" that are spoken of here are from another star system...And I don't believe there was just "one"..on a single trip here.

Their reason for coming here...and are they all from the same family, or star system is a mystery...but I believe there are clues everywhere :naughty:

orthodoxymoron

12-27-2009, 05:38 AM

From what I'm gathering...it sounds like the "Gods" and "Goddess" that are spoken of here are from another star system...And I don't believe there was just "one"..on a single trip here.

Their reason for coming here...and are they all from the same family, or star system is a mystery...but I believe there are clues everywhere :naughty:

What I'm referring to is a single Kingpin or Queenpin of the Human Race. I don't doubt that there have been, and are, many powerful ET's visiting Earth from throughout the galaxy...but when they say 'Take me to your leader'...no one who is in the know has any question regarding who that might be...and I tend to think that it's been the same being all along. But this is just my hypothesis at this point.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-27-2009, 06:09 AM

It seems to me that there has been a single God or Goddess of This World from before our arrival here.What I'm referring to is a single Kingpin or Queen pin of the Human Race.These two statements lead me to think, you believe we might be the creation of Lucifer and/or the reptilians? Or are at least concerned that might be the case? Is that a fair Analysis?

Or am I just confused? :blink:

BROOK

12-27-2009, 03:24 PM

ODM...It's been brought to my attention ....in search for the truth

The truth will set you free...it matters not whose truth it is,

The truth is the truth. Not your truth, not my truth.

There is no right or wrong truth, it is in the perception.

The key is to know the whole truth and nothing but the truth

Once known....it will set you free :naughty:

never stop searching for the truth....the whole truth

BROOK

12-27-2009, 04:06 PM

I watched one of the many videos of a whistle blower here on Avalon...and it started out with a man describing that he knew of our ultimate origin ....the creation of US..then he said..this is his perception

He carried on to describe many levels of dimension ....then he said..."and on this level is where the ego is created..." At that point I realized that the series of videos is exactly what he said...it was his Perception ...and I watched further..and I saw him describing heaven and hell....the ET phenomena ..through great research he explained all the past Gods and the reason for the pyramids...their basis of origin and purpose.

It was fascinating ...and because I have never done any of this research myself...it seemed very plausible....but was it the "TRUTH"

How much of that information came from TRUTH..and how much came from the perception..with the research to cloud the perception?

Herein lies the dilemma :

First..where is the proof?...is it based on conjecture? From past research and theory? could the truth be clouded by such theory and research?

I believe he did tap into a TRUTH...he seemed very convinced of that fact..and seemed very genuine...but how much of the information was filtered through the brain..and processed by perception....Dilemma...what is the truth? Is this ultimate truth? Is it "his" truth..filtered by perception?

This is where knowing the TRUTH from first hand comes in handy...because it is not filtered by merely perception..it simply is the Truth.

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

Bobbie

12-27-2009, 04:49 PM

I have just run across this thread and this topic is of great interest to me. It reminds me of a book that has been mentioned 22 previous times on this forum http://projectavalon.net/forum/search.php?searchid=2444810 but I think it so appropriate for this thread. The Gods of Eden outlines how all these lesser gods have the dominion over this planet and that all the major plagues in our past has been of alien origination. This calls to mind the population control issue that we are faced with presently . Just when it looks like there may be too many of us for their liking, bam, a plague shows up and kills off thousands upon thousands. Maybe we have raised our consciousness to the level where they won't be able to pull it off this time. We can only focus and hope.

BROOK

12-27-2009, 05:06 PM

orthodoxymoron

12-27-2009, 09:53 PM

These two statements lead me to think, you believe we might be the creation of Lucifer and/or the reptilians? Or are at least concerned that might be the case? Is that a fair Analysis?

Or am I just confused? :blink:

I think our origins are a combination of evolution and intelligent design...but I don't know the details. The Founders / Ancients / Creator God(s) of the Universe provided the intelligent design aspects of our origins. I Do Not think that Lucifer or the Reptilians created us. One or the other possibly destroyed the Founders...but I don't know. I think that Lucifer is the Human God of This World (a Micro-God rather than a Macro-God)...and I'm really confused about the Reptilians. The Macro-God(s) seem to be AWOL. This troubles me greatly. I think about it constantly.

I think that we evolved and were intelligently designed long before we were brought to Earth. We are not going from the swamp to the stars. We came from the stars IMHO. We appear suddenly in the geologic record...without the many missing links which would be required for an evolutionary Earth origin paradigm of humanity. I think that we are ET's and that Earth probably is not our homeworld.

Obviously...I can't prove this. I'm simply a repeater and an intuitve speculator. I don't channel or get contacted...and I've never been abducted (that I know of). This is just a big science fiction game for me...but I try to stay as close to reality and probability as possible.

I just talked to a real live Egyptologist face to face! She was a real cutie too! She pointed me in the direction of Nick Reeves and his book 'Valley of the Kings'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Reeves Here is Nick Reeve's website link: http://www.nicholasreeves.com/artp.aspx

Carl Nicholas Reeves (born 28 September 1956) is an English Egyptologist. After studying history at University College of London, he obtained his doctorate in Egyptology at the University of Durham. He worked at the department of Egyptian antiquities of British Museum and as consultant for the Freud Museum, London.

History
Reeves began his studies in 1975 at University College London, graduating in 1978 with a B.A. (First Class Honors) in Ancient History. He moved on to research at Durham University, and obtained his Ph.D. in Egyptology (a study of tomb robbery in the Valley of the Kings) in 1984.

He is currently G. A. D. Tait Curator of Egyptian and Classical Art at The Myers Museum, Eton College; Director of Collections, The Denys Eyre Bower Bequest, Chiddingstone Castle; and Director of the Valley of the Kings Foundation. He is also Honorary Fellow at Durham University Oriental Museum.

Reeves studied at Durham University alongside Dr Aidan Dodson and Dr John Tait under Professor John Harris.

Reeves was elected a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries, London, in 1994.

Reeves is best-known as the Director of the Amarna Royal Tombs Project.

Controversy
In 2002 Reeves was suspended from excavating in Egypt after accusations that he was involved in antiquities smuggling. However, at a meeting of the Supreme Council of Antiquities held in Cairo on 7 August 2005, his name was officially cleared of any wrongdoing after a 3-year investigation.

In 2006, the discovery of KV-63 by Otto Schaden’s University of Memphis team made worldwide news. Soon after Nicholas Reeves made the claim that his team had "first located the tomb during the course of a ground-penetrating survey of our concession in 2000...the Americans were handed copies of our radar data in mid-2005 as soon as we heard of their stumbling upon it." Reeves said that his team had not excavated the tomb at that time because "such facilities are exceedingly rare and potentially preserve unique data. Our strategy was not to cherry-pick but to work systematically."

On July 28th 2006, Reeves announced on the website of the Amarna Royal Tombs Project details of radar investigation of another possible tomb in the Valley of the Kings. Reeves believes that KV63 is just the 'signal' pointing at the discovery of a much more significant tomb, possibly the one identified by radar:

...despite current media disappointment at the absence of bodies it will soon become apparent that KV63 is in fact a discovery of the most extraordinary significance - not for what the single chamber actually holds but for what it clearly signals, which is the definite presence in the Valley of at least one further tomb. The situation is this: as a chamber full of embalmers’ refuse KV63 stands in relation to a future burial as the KV54 embalming-cache in 1907 stood to the tomb of Tutankhamun. It represents without question an augury of further, significant discoveries to come.
The ARTP team decided to publicly state the existence of this possible new tomb, and even its precise location, for three reasons:

Firstly, it will prevent the possibility of yet another ‘accidental’ discovery and hurried clearance: publicising the existence of the feature in advance of its physical exposure ought to allow time for a considered, scientific approach to its investigation to be insisted upon by the wider archaeological community and arranged through the SCA. Secondly, disclosure now will limit the amount of collateral archaeological damage otherwise likely to be sustained in the sort of random search which is all but imminent. Thirdly, with the publicity the announcement of a new tomb is likely to generate there is a chance that sanity will prevail and the message at last get through that all future excavations in the Valley must be carried out systematically and at a state-of-the-art level - not by the very modest standards which are currently considered acceptable.

Reeves has published many academic articles and several well-received books, including:

Valley of the Kings: The Decline of a Royal Necropolis
The Complete Tutankhamun
Howard Carter: Before Tutankhamun (with John H. Taylor)
The Complete Valley of the Kings (with Richard H. Wilkinson)
Ancient Egypt: The Great Discoveries
Akhenaten: Egypt's False Prophet
Reeves also co-authored a children's book, entitled Into the Mummy's Tomb: The real-life discovery of Tutankhamun's Treasures.

Archaeology magazine interviews Nicholas Reeves about possible KV64 discovery
Valley of the Kings Foundation

:original:Namaste:original:

Gnosis5

12-27-2009, 10:16 PM

Nope- it was not my eye.
Of interest after that we went to visit a friend of my husband. He lived in Sweden and entered into a psychic research institute there (I can find out the name- this was years ago).

Unusual thing happened to him......

He lay down on this table and a pyramid was placed over him. He said he levitated off the table but what was really odd was that he could see in the corner of the room this eye......

Well he entered the eye and felt it was not really benevolent........

From his description (obviously more than what I wrote here) it sounded very similar to what I saw and entered.

He coined it the *all seeing eye*.

I wonder if this eye has anything to do with the Annunaki AI system.
When I was being watched by the AI system I tuned into it and was scared ****less, I couldn't sleep for a week with the lights off and others who had been there too had the same reaction.

This might correspond: We were processing a being and the incident this being was stuck in was coming to an eye suspended in space (space was not as crowded then) and then being entrained to go into that eye. It was revealed in the session that the being who was trapping beings with this eye mockup was angry about something that had happened in the past.

He also had a Persian or Arabic name, I forget what it was.

But I would go with my feelings, and I would seek to understand what might have occurred that caused me to not remember the whole incident. We usually blank out because something "bad" or "painful" happened and we do not wish to confront it. Find a safe space and/or person and find out what else you can confront about this incident.

Best wishes,
Gnosis

orthodoxymoron

12-27-2009, 11:18 PM

Gnosis5

12-27-2009, 11:26 PM

That's some really heavy-duty creepy-stuff. It can't be good...I don't think. There are experiences which many have related on Avalon which are mind-boggling...and I have a difficult time relating to them. I'm sort of in denial about a lot of the abductions, contacts, and supernatural occurrances. I can't imagine actually having any of these things happening to me. I'm crazy enough as it is. It would probably push me over the edge. I suspect a lot of 4D 'demonic' activity in 90% of the supernatural and paranormal activity...but I'm not an authority. That's just my paranoid bias. The truth is out there...and so are the bad guys and gals. The horror.

:original:Namaste:original:

I can relate to how you feel. I was soooo frightened of Reptilians that I think it drove me into my first sessions. When I realized I had been a reptilian I got very quiet about the subject :-)

If you have a Christian background, there is a discourse in the New Testament that speaks about the spiritual armor. I think that is some valid stuff. The NT does not talk about creepy stuff to scare people, but to get people to develop their "spiritual armor" and to walk without fear.

What is your spiritual/religious background?

Gnosis

BROOK

12-28-2009, 01:03 AM

This might correspond: We were processing a being and the incident this being was stuck in was coming to an eye suspended in space (space was not as crowded then) and then being entrained to go into that eye. It was revealed in the session that the being who was trapping beings with this eye mockup was angry about something that had happened in the past.

He also had a Persian or Arabic name, I forget what it was.

But I would go with my feelings, and I would seek to understand what might have occurred that caused me to not remember the whole incident. We usually blank out because something "bad" or "painful" happened and we do not wish to confront it. Find a safe space and/or person and find out what else you can confront about this incident.

Best wishes,
Gnosis

The eye of Horus, sometimes also called the eye of Ra represents a sign of power given to the wearer by the gods of the time. It can also be a symbol that you are protected from harm by the god represented in the eye, whether that be Horus or Ra. The Egyptian word for this symbol is Wadjet, which literally translated means simply god or goddess. Horus himself was the falcon headed Egyptian god that originally represented the sky, but also came to be recognized as the sun and moon god as well.

The Eye of Horus itself is represented, not by a human eye as many people think, but by a falcons eye with a tear in one corner, and the separate parts of the eye can be divided in ancient Egyptian measurements into 6 parts, which represent smell, sight, touch, thought, hearing and taste. These are representations of the powers that Horus has as well as the abilities that humans share with the gods.

Similarly it isn't the eye that the Freemasons use either, despite popular belief. That is another eye of providence, which is a Christian rather then Egyptian symbol meaning that god can see you whatever you are doing. In the case of the Freemasons it probably just signifies their influence and power as a semi secret society, as well as the requisite belief in a divine being that all masons must have.

Gnosis5

12-28-2009, 01:08 AM

The eye of Horus, sometimes also called the eye of Ra represents a sign of power given to the wearer by the gods of the time. It can also be a symbol that you are protected from harm by the god represented in the eye, whether that be Horus or Ra. The Egyptian word for this symbol is Wadjet, which literally translated means simply god or goddess. Horus himself was the falcon headed Egyptian god that originally represented the sky, but also came to be recognized as the sun and moon god as well.

The Eye of Horus itself is represented, not by a human eye as many people think, but by a falcons eye with a tear in one corner, and the separate parts of the eye can be divided in ancient Egyptian measurements into 6 parts, which represent smell, sight, touch, thought, hearing and taste. These are representations of the powers that Horus has as well as the abilities that humans share with the gods.

Similarly it isn't the eye that the Freemasons use either, despite popular belief. That is another eye of providence, which is a Christian rather then Egyptian symbol meaning that god can see you whatever you are doing. In the case of the Freemasons it probably just signifies their influence and power as a semi secret society, as well as the requisite belief in a divine being that all masons must have.

Gosh, that is all over my head. I did get the idea that it might be used to support an earlier attempt to get beings to reduce their "seeing" from 360-degrees to 180-degrees.

Gnosis

orthodoxymoron

12-28-2009, 01:42 AM

Sometimes I think I have been (or am presently!) a reptilian!! Who knows?? When I speak of a Solar System Exorcism...I intend this toward all very hard-core malevolents of all races. I want the really, really bad guys and gals (of all races, including human) to leave...until they learn to play nice. I want the good guys and gals (of all races, including reptilian) to stay. But this isn't up to me.

Isn't the 'All Seeing Eye' (both Egyptian and Masonic?) directly related to the Dog-Star Sirius? Isn't Sun-Worship really the worship of the ET's from Sirius (The Sun God)? Ever heard of 'Sun God Day'?

My religious background is SDA...but I'm a real mongrel at this point (a rebel without a church!). I recommend two books by Ellen White...'Desire of Ages' and 'Great Controversy'...but not much else. Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and Dr. Desmond Ford are very interesting people (heretics!) to study in the SDA historical zoo. I don't go to church...but if I did...it would probably be an Episcopal church. If I were in New York...I might attend St. Thomas, St. Barts, or St. John the Divine. Unfortunately...I presently have huge problems with the penetential and sacrificial aspects of the Eucharistic Liturgy (and the pagan symbology)...even though I love the robes, music, incense, ceremony, reverence, awe, glory, grandeur, and fellowship. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer is much better than the present one...but I don't like either one! The Psalms are printed in their entirety...but where the hell are the Teachings of Jesus? Who's church is it anyway? I'd rather stay home...and eat chocolates!! I also have problems with the Substitutionary Atonement. So did Betrand Russell. He thought it was unethical. I think that the entire sacrificial system was and is a colossal irresponsible and bloody mess! Apologetics in this area tend to degenerate into exegetical monstrosities. I have a way with words...don't I?

I just re-watched the first episode of 'V'...and the thought struck me...could Anna be Lucifer/Hathor/Mary (the Human Goddess of This World) and Freddie (the one who always seems to be with Anna) be Satan (the Reptilian God of This World)? Could Amen Ra really be the Human God in the Pleiades who Lucifer rebelled against? I really don't know. I'm just trying to feel my way through this God and Goddess business...even though I know that I am venturing where Angels fear to tread.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-28-2009, 02:20 AM

Isn't the 'All Seeing Eye' (both Egyptian and Masonic?) directly related to the Dog-Star Sirius? Isn't Sun-Worship really the worship of the ET's from Sirius (The Sun God)? Ever heard of 'Sun God Day'?

The Eye of Horus - Horus was an ancient Egyptian sky god in the form of a falcon. The right eye represents a peregrine falcon's eye and the markings around it, that includes the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. The right eye of Horus is said to ward off evil eye in the ancient Egyptian culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_eye#The_Classical_Evil_Eye

THE eXchanger

12-28-2009, 02:23 AM

THE EYE iS iMPORTANT ~ behind it, is a TRiNE/or TRiNTY

once you trigger that team, a huge door swings open

and, there is a huge flame in a room there

iT iS quite an iN_SiTE-FULL place

BROOK

12-28-2009, 02:27 AM

Here is another piece of the puzzle provided by Moxie: http://keyofsolomon.net/ Watch the YouTube videos on the opening page.

Unrelatedly...consider theanthropos, baldacchino, co-mediatrix, pontifex maximus, and domschratt. :trumpet: I'm not sure why...but consider them anyway!

Perhaps divinity should be the object of collective aspiration...as opposed to individual aspiration and submissive veneration.

:original:Namaste:original:

As far as "Sun God"...well as this bit of information you brought forth states....it is "sun" worship...but not our "sun" ...so I suppose it would depend upon which sun was being worshiped maybe?

HeatherJJAnderson

12-28-2009, 03:51 AM

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GaiaLove

12-28-2009, 04:03 AM

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Hi Heather
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Northern Boy

12-28-2009, 04:09 AM

:mfr_lol:GAIA WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT NEW AVATAR :lmao:

:naughty:ITS PREFECT LET ME KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS YOU FOUND THAT ARE SIMILAR:lmfao:

Luminari

12-28-2009, 04:43 AM

orthodoxymoron

12-28-2009, 05:27 AM

Just took a pic of my elbow for your thread Orthy :lol3:, sorry you cant see it all and apologies for all the hair LOL. Some people are paranoid about this symbol, I just resonate with former Sirian/Khemitian incarnations.. like MANY of us.

That's cool Luminari! Art is good! Humor is even better! I don't want to fear or worship the Gods and Goddesses. I want them all to retire...and then we can all have a good laugh! I hope.

:original:Namaste:original:

morguana

12-28-2009, 12:14 PM

Just took a pic of my elbow for your thread Orthy :lol3:, sorry you cant see it all and apologies for all the hair LOL. Some people are paranoid about this symbol, I just resonate with former Sirian/Khemitian incarnations.. like MANY of us.

Love + Bliss

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww178/luminari_2009/RA.jpg

http://www.amun.com/images/horus_1.jpg

mogs x

HeatherJJAnderson

12-28-2009, 04:57 PM

BROOK

12-28-2009, 05:29 PM

I do apologize for putting that request in this thread, so to the author sorry.
I do love the subject Ra and the real history of Egypt, When I worked for U.N.I.T in Orlando my task force used Egyptian glyphs in a virtual reality construct to aid DNA coding of the MK Ultra Generation 4 Units.

Why would they implant Egyptian glyphs?...how does that aid DNA coding? Can that be read in your energy signature?

:jawdrop: :shocked:

orthodoxymoron

12-28-2009, 10:46 PM

Does Amen Ra = God the Founder = Intelligent Designer? Did Amen Ra create Reptilians as a slave race? ("Let us make man in our image"). Was Amen Ra destroyed by the Reptilians...or by Lucifer during the War in Heaven? Could Amen Ra exist on another dimension? Is Amen Ra present only in the Divinity Within Humanity?

Does Lucifer = Eve/Hathor/Isis/Mary (brought us to Earth from the Pleiades/Aldebaran/Sirius IN the Moon aka Battlestar Galactica aka Ark of the Covenant)? Did Lucifer create the major religions...including being the major author of the Bible? Is Lucifer the Human Goddess of This World? Is Lucifer alive presently...perfectly possessed...and posting on the internet? Was Lucifer/Eve deceived by the Reptilians who offered technology, protection, and a new Earth (the Promised Land)...which was the equivalent of Eating the Apple? Is Lucifer in charge of the Deep Underground Military Bases / Stargate Temples / Secret Space Program? Or...are the Reptilians in charge?

Does the War/Expulsion in Heaven (Lyra or the Pleiades?) have Garden of Eden (Pleiades?) and Exodus (Hyksosdus?) parallels?

Are the major factions in the Solar System associated with 1. Amen Ra? 2. Hathor? 3. Horus? 4. Serpent?

Does Adam = Earth Humanity?

Does Winged Serpent = Reptilians / UFO's (Conspired with Lucifer against Amen Ra?). Does the Winged Serpent represent Nibiru and/or the Reptilian God of This World? Do the Reptilians provide technology, protection, and 'Tenant in Possession Status on Earth' for humanity...in exchange for work, worship, and ? Could this be the Covenant? Did Horus/Jesus obtain a New Covenant?

This is a very tangled hypothetical web which might be pure unmitigated poppycock...or which might be the biggest part of disclosure.

I have a feeling that we will be meeting Lucifer/Eve/Hathor/Isis/Mary in the near future...and that she might be a lot like Anna in "V"...except with darker skin and an English accent...with exquisite musical abilities...and an astronomical IQ. Just a feeling...mind you.

Now I need to take my medicine...before I go to my psychiatrist and exorcist appointments. Too hip. Gotta go.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsPMtPTSF3s&feature=related
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nieF177sbks&feature=related
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkdV0VBMTw&feature=related
4. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjPQjQGdbU
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU
7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA

:original:Namaste:original:

Moxie

12-29-2009, 04:52 AM

thus far no one has the "goods' on Amen Ra
no one knows for sure

that is our sad state... a pool of opinions, of unknowingness, that is our state?

HOPEFUL

12-29-2009, 05:13 AM

Yeah, Nykki had the 'goods', you guys banned her.

Northern Boy

12-29-2009, 05:22 AM

so she had the goods eh funny she had lots of time to post and chose not to so . and instead tried to tell us what was in store for us too bad for her thought she was different but I could see the K-Maro coming out in her and meditate 4life sounded just like maro

HOPEFUL

12-29-2009, 05:28 AM

insulting members is a big nono

Samarkis

12-29-2009, 05:35 AM

Thanks donkey boy :)

Hopeful.consider this a warning.........You can easily be banned as well.....This is a site that promotes open minded respect.......pls show some or you will be shown the door....

Moderator-Samarkis

Northern Boy

12-29-2009, 05:38 AM

Edited by Moderator

BROOK

12-29-2009, 05:38 AM

The power of the Goddess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLg4vuYtCY4

Samarkis

12-29-2009, 05:48 AM

here enjoy the show please Tell me which one is you HOPEFUL

Northern Boy....I am also giving you a warning.............Pls stand down on this issue.........

Moderator-Samarkis

Northern Boy

12-29-2009, 06:02 AM

Hopeful Sorry to have posted any of your home movies I regret it please forgive me :wub2::wub2::wub2:
I hope your laughter did not cause you to much pain and discomfort as you typed my warning out Sarah. I`ll drop the issue if the camp of the Lost Episode does .

Gnosis5

12-29-2009, 06:07 AM

thus far no one has the "goods' on Amen Ra
no one knows for sure

that is our sad state... a pool of opinions, of unknowingness, that is our state?

Last year Hubby and I processed a former Egyptian priest who served Ra and got demoted to planet earth/Egypt. He is currently head of his own church.

His Egyptian incident included technology gadgets that gave magical powers to the pharoah and priests so that the people would not forget their worshipful place and continue to serve the heirarchy. For some reason an armed force from his planet came down and killed all the priests with laser guns. The priest also had his own laser gun. This incident had been stuck in his subconscious for all these lifetimes and guided his behavior in his current religious position.

Gnosis

orthodoxymoron

12-29-2009, 04:37 PM

Peace of mind

12-29-2009, 05:00 PM

orthodoxymoron

12-29-2009, 08:11 PM

If you get a chance to meet with some elderly or well informed Africans or Israelites, they will most likely tell you that Aman Ra means Sun God/Eye of Horus. This entity is said to be near the sun and is manipulating it to distribute specific energy rays/waves to the planet. These rays will be absorb thru the melanin in the skin and will trigger DNA activation. Afterwards the sun god will return to its place on top of the Giza pyramids.

Peace

Could there be an attempted New World Order Theocracy centered in Egypt (rather than Jerusalem) where the Sun God (Prince of Sirius?) is worshipped? Is the Holy City really located on the Giza Plateau? Will a pyramidal ufo land on the pinnacle of the temple? Will the chief cornerstone reign as chief of us all?

The really well informed Africans, Egyptians, and Israelis must really laugh at us ignorant goyim!! These people probably don't need 'disclosure'. They already know!!

:original:Namaste:original:

Gnosis5

12-29-2009, 10:08 PM

Thank-you Gnosis5. A few years ago...I wouldn't have taken your last post seriously...but now I'm getting the picture of ancient technology, and of very human Gods and Goddesses. The modern priests and preachers put Angel Dust in the air-conditioning system! The perceived absence of the Founders really bothers me. Could Amen Ra be representative of (or the equivalent of) the Founders? They really keep us guessing...don't they? My guess is that the real Universal History is so terrible...that 'they' have tried to spare us the anguish...while we evolve ethically, spiritually, and emotionally to the point where we can handle the truth. I'm hoping we are at that point presently. I really think that complete disclosure will hit us like 10 tons of bricks...and that it will be almost unbearable. I really hope I'm wrong. Sometimes I think the camps are for those who can't handle the truth. I may be one of those people. Just give me a room with a view!

Hey guys and gals...save the drama for your mamma! Not on my thread!!:mad3::lmao::tongue2::trumpet::lightsabre: If I were a moderator...I'd just ban everyone who didn't agree with me!! It's amazing how much we can talk about...if and only if...we don't make it personal.

:original:Namaste:original:

It is only an actuality that is no longer taken seriously by anyone :original:

In my own history as a being I see that I created multiple images or archetypes and my fixation on present day archetypes is symptomatic of my need to know the creator, namely me. Decision upon decision I became the fantastic creation/archetype and drew further and further into layered unconsciousness of who I really am. I came here feet first and I am going back head first, all the wiser.

For example, my current fixation in the long queue of archetypes is on a Divine Feminine or Divine Mother archetype. I always hold out until the last possible moment the realization that I (moi!?) created the dang'ed thing.

Don't get me wrong, I like pretty statues and archetypes and gargoyles as much as anyone and I'm simply releasing my fixation on them. Maybe I'm going to end up being fixated on who I really am -- a "0", lol!

Gnosis5

12-29-2009, 10:10 PM

Could there be an attempted New World Order Theocracy centered in Egypt (rather than Jerusalem) where the Sun God (Prince of Sirius?) is worshipped? Is the Holy City really located on the Giza Plateau? Will a pyramidal ufo land on the pinnacle of the temple? Will the chief cornerstone reign as chief of us all?

The really well informed Africans, Egyptians, and Israelis must really laugh at us ignorant goyim!! These people probably don't need 'disclosure'. They already know!!

:original:Namaste:original:

:lmao::lmao:

Peace of mind

12-30-2009, 03:58 PM

I’m sure most people in the Middle East know a lot more than what the media and our organized learning institutes are telling us. It’s rare finding people from these areas on forums like this.

All we really know about this area is constant wars. And, to name them religious or spiritual wars seems like an excuse to compel the sheeple. It says a lot when chaos is caused out of the name of God and to secure western civilization’s freedom. It just doesn’t make any sense... especially when most of the history in these areas is kept hidden or destroyed. Weapon’s of mass destruction may very well be real and it most likely comes in the form of ancient technology or knowledge. Afghanistan is mostly a torn up and lawless country. Why are rich countries steadily bombing and invading this barren land. Hmmm.
Something of extreme value is over there and TPTB will manipulate your children minds, put them into battle suits and have them thinking they are fighting for a good cause.
Al-CIA-DUH are the real terrorist, Bin Laden is a myth. It’s all Hollywood stuff

When they don’t even let the average people tour the main ancient sites in Egypt, you should know something is amiss. Some might say they do this to preserve them. BS, preserve them for what and who…only a chosen few to examine them? There is some deep stuff going down in the Middle East and most of the outside world doesn’t have a clue.

Peace

BROOK

12-30-2009, 05:38 PM

Afghanistan is mostly a torn up and lawless country. Why are rich countries steadily bombing and invading this barren land. Hmmm. A silent weapon of mass destruction....DRUGS

Afghanistan cultivates drugs on record vast area under US invasion

Illicit drugs production, an issue of global concern in Afghanistan, has set a new record of peak escalation in the war on terror period as compared to previous Taliban-led rule over the land-locked country.

“Almost a twenty times additional land has been brought under drugs cultivation in seven years of US-led forces’ control and Karazi administration in Afghanistan,” said official sources while handing over the latest statistics on the neighboring country.

Following 9/11 attacks and Taliban’s refusal to hand over Osama bin Laden to the US, the allied forces ousted the regime in end-2001, the year during which poppy opium cultivation was at the lowest ebb in Afghanistan’s history from 1994 onwards and till today.

The surge in production and areas brought under cultivation of prohibited drugs may be unbelievable for civilized societies to be suffering ultimately with continuous enhancement of the booming worldwide drugs trade.

The latest figures, obtained by The News, reveals that the drug production, instead of its eradication, has registered a hike of 40 times more than the lowest in 2001 in all the previous 14 years during which the Taliban emerged, fell and the sole superpower installed its favorites.

Similarly 20 times more area has been brought under cultivation of opium poppy in the last seven years as it was just 7,606 hectares in the year 2001 against presently 1,57,000 hectares, a bad example that would ultimately hit the masses damaging their fundamentals.

This country continues to be the source of 93% of the world's heroin

Each year as much as $400 million ends up in the pockets of the Taliban and the warlords who support them. The U.S.-led coalition knows it.... Anybody wondering why? :nono:

orthodoxymoron

12-30-2009, 05:59 PM

What if the real Weapons of Mass Destruction (or Ancient Technology Weapons?) are located in Deep Underground Military Bases in Afghanistan and Iraq? The power struggle in this Solar System may be very complex and hidden. I really don't know what to think. It's so easy to rant and rave about this or that...but does one really know what the hell they're ranting and raving about? I guess this is one reason why I mostly ask questions. Maybe what I really want people to do is to ask the right questions in the right way. We should probably consider everything from all angles...all the time. But people want certainty...not questions. This makes them sitting ducks for all of the corrupt @#$%^^&!s of the universe. Many of the seemingly good guys and gals may turn out to be evil guys and gals...and visa versa. I keep thinking that the tangled web we are caught in...is very intricate, very deceptive...and very sticky. I joke a lot...but I think this stuff we discuss is very serious business. Once again...I want things to turn out well for everyone...even the really bad guys and gals. This is the only attitude which will secure the kind of Earth (and Solar System) which most people desire.

Unrelatedly...I'm still very interested in the origin of the Human Race and the Reptilian Race (assuming that they really exist). Who created who...and for what purpose? Evolution can't explain everything...in my view...even if hundreds of billions of years are considered. There has to be intelligent design...in my view. Sometimes I think that Humans evolved and were intelligently designed elsewhere in the Universe...and were brought to Earth fully formed. Sometimes I think that Reptilians evolved and were intelligently designed right here on Earth. Sometimes I think that the Founders are dead...and that only minor stand-in human Gods and Goddesses remain. Sometimes I think that almost everything connected with meaning of life stuff is a damned lie. But what do I know?

Supposedly the illegal drug money goes into Deep Underground Military Bases, the Secret Space Program, and other Secret or Black Projects. Who knows...there may be a desperate need for these very expensive projects...but if so...can't we be open about them...and finance them legitimately? Maybe I'm too much of a goody-goody...but I think that it's irresponsible to just look the other way. Once again...I don't know what to think. Black can be white. Up can be down. Or this can seem to be the case, at least. Maybe I should just shut up...and try to make a ton of money...$screwing my competition and my mistresses. I could be a major contributor to my local church...read the scripture...and get absolved on Sun God Day. 12 o'clock...and all is well! How many millions can I make this week? Doing so might not even get me on a list...especially if I financed the political campaigns of all parties. Perhaps bad is good...and good is bad. WTF?

Perhaps we should also consider Ancient Babylon and the Goddess Semiramis when we consider Amen Ra and Hathor. Do Lucifer, Semiramis and Hathor have something in common? Was a lady we all know...behind (or beneath?) a whole helluva lot of Gods, Goddesses, Literature, Architecture, and Music? This is very difficult to prove...but I have a feeling in my bones and a burning in my bosom. I see a few cockroaches...and I suspect a wall-full of them. I don't hate this hypothetical Goddess. I just want the truth...so our Earth and Solar System can move on. Universal and Earth History should not be a lie...regardless of how upsetting and disruptive the real truth is. I may have to eat humble pie regarding all of this...but this is the direction I'm going presently. I still like the idea of non-vindictively cleaning up our act here on Earth...and the granting of immunity in exchange for complete disclosure, complete cooperation, and reasonable restitution.

All of the above could be complete BS. Reader Beware: Lunatic Alert.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

12-30-2009, 06:01 PM

Egyptian Mysteries

In the Great Pyramid of Egypt the Ascending Passage is a narrow tunnel into the ancient House of Secrets. After a long climb it emerges into the Grand Gallery that connects the King's and Queen's chambers - to stretch a metaphor - balancing the male and female energies and partaking in both. Ancient Egypt did balance the energies: Art, Science, Medicine, Architecture, all were based on the same core of Knowledge.

http://ascendingpassage.com/Rameses-III-ISIS.jpg

Offerings to Pharaoh Ramesses III and Isis.

If we only see the Egyptians through modern eyes we miss half of the story - the most interesting half - because the spiritual understanding of these ancient people is as valid today as it was in the age of the pyramids.

There are unexplained mysteries and secrets on one side, intense beauty and artistic achievement on another. There is a third side, something beyond the words and pictures, something only to be understood. It is this third side that is, after all, the true ascending passage.

http://ascendingpassage.com/ascending-passage.gif

Peace of mind

12-30-2009, 06:08 PM

Hi Brook, when I hear about illegal drugs I think about the CIA. Now can we trust the CIA and it's claims?

Hey orthodoxymoron, all of this conspiracy stuff can and will drive you batty if you're not careful. I keep an open mind to all of this info but will not believe any of it until I can varify the facts with my own senses.

Peace

BROOK

12-30-2009, 06:22 PM

Secrets and Frequency

F sharp

Experiments conducted in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid and in Chambers above the King's Chamber suggest that the pyramid was constructed with a sonic purpose. Identifies four resident frequencies, or notes, that are enhanced by the structure of the pyramid, and by the materials used in its construction. The notes from an F Sharp chord, which according to ancient Egyptian texts were the harmonic of our planet. Moreover, tests show that these frequencies are present in the King's Chamber seven when no sounds are being produced. They are there in frequencies that range from 16 Hertz down to 1/2 Hertz, well below the range of human hearing. These vibrations are caused by the wind blowing across the ends of the so-called shafts --- in the same way as sounds are created when one blows across the top of a bottle.

Note: Native American maker of sacred flutes from Oregon. The flutes, which are made to serenade Mother Earth, are tuned to the key of F Sharp!

http://web.archive.org/web/20030801174746/www.lauralee.com/said.htm

BROOK

12-30-2009, 06:24 PM

BROOK

12-30-2009, 06:35 PM

So much attention has been placed upon the Great Pyramid
that little note has been made of the other large pyramids that exhibit similar construction.

The pyramid at Meidum is unique - the conventional explanation is that the construction was faulty, causing the structure to collapse. This may be true, however, indications that Egyptian temples were deliberately defaced (canceled out) as the astrological ages progressed and the energies that the temples were tuned to became dormant. Theories of the Great Pyramid as some kind of energy device often neglect the other important pyramids, with their differing angles and layouts. Perhaps inclusion of this evidence could produce a deeper understanding.

orthodoxymoron

12-30-2009, 06:54 PM

Hey orthodoxymoron, all of this conspiracy stuff can and will drive you batty if you're not careful. I keep an open mind to all of this info but will not believe any of it until I can varify the facts with my own senses.

Peace

I deal in possibilities and probabilities...and try to hone my observational and analytical skills. I think that we are already batty and demonically manipulated. Becoming sane...and free of demonic influence may be viewed by many as being batty. So Be It. I'm already batty...so with that out of the way...I am free to be me. Theological and Political Cross Pollination and Management from a Common Source (God or Goddess of This World) isn't that batty of an idea...is it? What would Daniel Jackson say? (WWDJ)

I just think that the God or Goddess of This World needs to openly rejoin the Human Race. If one reincarnates with an uninterrupted full memory of all previous past-lives via soul-transference from one youthful body to the next youthful body...and has a repository of very sophisticated philosophy, technology, and weaponry....one would probably become essentially insane...especially if they had to deal with very dark interdimensional forces...and the knowledge of a very dark universal history. I tend to think that this hypothetical being started out with a pure heart and pure intentions...but became corrupt and insane...as a result of being corrupted by absolute power. Sort of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. If one has an IQ of 500...it's probably very difficult to be just one of the guys and gals. This is not an attack or a witch-hunt. If this being exists (this is a biblical teaching)...I think that once they openly rejoin the Human Race that they can and will be a valued asset. I could be very wrong...but I'm not into the bottomless pit bs. Pardon and reconciliation would probably make everyone livid...and cause civil unrest. Trench warfare would probably get everyone killed. Decisions, decisions. Remember when the President pardoned all humans in Battlestar Galactica? I agreed with the President.

:tongue2:Namaste:tongue2:

BROOK

12-30-2009, 07:10 PM

Lets go back to the F Sharp again..and see if there is a connection :thumb_yello:......

A Neutron Star in F-sharp

Jonathan E. Grindlay1

Millisecond pulsars are extreme examples of what can happen when stars evolve into neutron stars in compact binary systems. These rotating objects are spun up by accretion of matter from their binary companions, producing luminous X-ray emission, and later become detectable as pulsars with periods of a few milliseconds (1). As a result, these “fast pulsars” may offer some of the best probes to study matter and space in the relativistic regime of strong gravity. On page 1901, Hessels et al (2) report the discovery of pulsar PSR J1748-2446ad in the dense globular cluster Terzan 5 (Ter5-ad). This object, detected with the Green Bank radio Telescope, holds the new record for the fastest spinning neutron star (or indeed any object of stellar mass or larger). Its spin period is only 1.396 ms, even shorter than that of B1937+21 [the first millisecond pulsar discovered (3)] at1.558 ms. With a rotation frequency of 716 Hz, Ter5-ad reaches a new high note for the music of the celestial spheres – between F and F sharp

here is more of the paper written...

http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0605/0605117.pdf

1 The author is at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, 60 Garden St., Cambridge, MA 02138. E-mail: josh@cfa.harvard.edu

BROOK

12-30-2009, 07:17 PM

Massive quake leaves neutron star ringing note of “F sharp”

A massive quake in a neutron star left the super-dense star ringing like a bell, researchers say—and if we could have heard it, it would have sounded a slightly miss tuned version of the note from a piano’s 22nd key, called F sharp.

scientists say this vibration will let them for the first time probe what’s inside a neutron star, a super-compact object believed to be something like a giant atomic nucleus.

NASA also released an animation of an explosion that accompanied the quake. Researchers said it occurred halfway across our Milky Way galaxy and was the largest of its type ever recorded.

An international team of astrophysicists described the blast in the July 20 issue of Astrophysical Journal Letters, a research journal.

They said the burst produced vibrations in the star that generated quick fluctuations in the X-ray radiation it released into space. These pulses are emitted during each seven-second rotation of the fast-spinning star and reveal the frequency, or speed, of the star’s vibrations.

“This explosion was akin to hitting the neutron star with a gigantic hammer, causing it to ring like a bell,” said Richard Rothschild, an astrophysicist at the University of California and one of the authors of the report.

“Now the question is: what does the frequency of the neutron star’s oscillations—the tone produced by the ringing bell—mean?”

And isn't it interesting that the frequency is also in the Kings chamber in the Great Pyramids...

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050713_fsharpfrm.htm

BROOK

12-30-2009, 07:33 PM

Imagine this experiment....standing in the Kings Chamber..with two perfect crystals in each hand...and resonating the F Sharp frequency..... :shocked:

Wonder what would happen....

orthodoxymoron

12-30-2009, 07:43 PM

I'd be interested to hear what Richard Hoagland has to say regarding this pulsar phenomenon...especially in connection with hyperdimensional physics. Rotation! Rotation! Rotation! Whether it's the Nazi Bell or a metal ball spinning at 20,000 rpm travelling further than a non-spinning metal ball after being launched...rotation seems to be key (key of F-sharp?). Here's the tune I like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzDa6IC7z4&feature=rec-r2-2r-1-HM I'm not sure what key it's in! Here's what it might sound like if the Empire Strikes Bach (in the key of F sharp minor): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1b9FtfRsg

:wall:Namaste:wall:

BROOK

12-30-2009, 08:06 PM

Fractal Geometry and F Sharp.....

Starting with F

Studying the frequency of natural catastrophes, one of us
(K.J.H.) came to realize an inverse log-log linear relation
between the frequency (F) and a parameter expressing the
intensity of the events (M), be they earthquakes, landslides,
floods, or meteorite impacts (2), and the relation can be stated
by the simple equation

F= c/MD.

Only later did we realize that this relation has been called
fractal by Mandelbrot (3), where c is a constant of proportionality
and D is the fractal dimension. Fractal relations have
commonly a lower and an upper limit. In the case of earthquakes,
for example, Eq. 2 holds only for the interval 3 -AM
c 9, because the smallest earthquakes are not represented by
significant statistics, nor is the energy release of large earthquakes
infinite.
Mandelbrot (3) put together certain geometric shapes
whose "monstrous" forms were very irregular and fragmented;
he coined the term fractal to denote them. Those
"monsters" were considered irrelevant to nature, akin to
modern atonal music (4), until Mandelbrot suggested that the
fractal relation could be the central conceptual tool to understand
the harmony of nature.
We have been searching for a meaning of melody. Is it
tradition or convention, or is it an instinctive expression of a
natural law? Could we find a mathematical relation to describe
a melody? Could the music of Bach be mathematically
distinguished from that of Stockhausen? Could we use mathematics
to describe the evolution of music from the primitive
folk's music to the atonal music of today? If music is an
expression of nature's harmony, could music have a fractal
geometry? Which, the atonal or the classical

http://www.pnas.org/content/87/3/938.full.pdf

BROOK

12-30-2009, 08:14 PM

Now let's look at the "Sharp" Frequency

The Cycle Spinning-based Sharp Frequency Localized Contourlet Transform
for Image Denoising

Images acquired by sensors are often abrupt by
noise. Since the noise spreads over all the coefficients
while image information concentrates on a few largest
ones in the wavelet transform domain, wavelet
becomes the most successful transform for denoising.
However, traditional two dimension wavelet is hard to
represent sharp image transitions [1] and smoothness
along the contours [2]. Hence, bandelet [1] with
adaptation to the geometric structure and contourlet [2]
with anisotropy scaling law and directionality are
presented to sparsely represent natural images. They
both achieve better denoising performance than
wavelet and also outperform wavelet in image fusion
[3] [4]. However, the computation of geometry in
bandelet is in high complexity thus it is not commonly
used in other image processing tasks except image
denoising, compression [1] and fusion [3].
Contourlet [2] proposed by Minh N. Do and Martin
Vetterli is utilized to capture intrinsic geometrical
structure and offer flexible multiscale and directional
expansion form images. Because of the nearly critical
sampling and fast iterated filter bank algorithm,
contourlet is in lower complexity than bandelet.
However, non-ideal filter are used in the original
contourlet result in significant amount of aliasing
components showing up at location far away from the
desired support [5] and exhibit some fuzzy artifacts
along the main image ridges. Yue Lu [5] proposes a
new construction of the contourlet, called sharp
frequency localization contourlet transform (SFLCT)
and alleviates the non-localization problem even with
the same redundancy of the original contourlet.
Unfortunately, due to the downsamplers and
upsamplers presented in the directional filter banks of
SFLCT, SFLCT is not shift-invariant, which is
important in image denoising by thresholding and
easily causes pseudo-Gibbs phenomena around
singularities [6].In this paper, we apply cycle spinning
[6] to compensate for the lack of translation invariance
property of SFLCT and successfully employed in
image denoising. Experimental results demonstrate that
our proposed method outperforms the original
contourlet (CT), SFLCT and cycle spinning-based
contourlet (CS-CT) in terms of PSNR and visual effect

http://dspace.xmu.edu.cn:8080/dspace/bitstream/2288/15259/1/CS_SFLCT_draft.pdf

Bobbie

12-30-2009, 08:59 PM

Does any musical person know if the very first note of this song is an F sharp? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B7sH5QLyXY You know how these synchronicities work. All morning the first note of this song has been coming into my head over and over again - unsolicitied I might add.

BROOK

12-30-2009, 09:29 PM

I don't know...nice song :thumb_yello:

The thing is...we are Energy...we are Frequency....and each frequency has it's own special meaning to each of us...as we in fact have our OWN frequency :naughty:

Ready for that coffee???

Bobbie

12-30-2009, 10:44 PM

I am ready for that :cup:... mentally and I'll be ready physically by next Monday. PM or e-mail me and let me know if that is okay with you. Got company from now until then and my hubby has off too. It's you and me against the world from our valley.

BROOK

12-31-2009, 03:11 AM

THE MISSING CHAMBERS OF THE GREAT PYRAMID
by Ian James Colmer

http://www.ianjamescolmer.com/greatone.jpg

http://www.ianjamescolmer.com/pyramid.htm

On this site...he talks of the F Sharp, and much more...a very good read....are the pyramids a Stargate? Now deactivated...waiting for reactivation?

BROOK

12-31-2009, 07:36 AM

BROOK

12-31-2009, 07:40 AM

While we are on the topic of sound, it is interesting to note that the Grand Gallery seems to be tunable, via it's stepped ceiling construction to four octaves.
The antechamber before the Kings chamber with it's portcullis grooves and granite leaf, is reminiscent of a giant reed, for tuning the cavity.

In musical terms:

The Kings Chamber resonates at 740Hz

= F sharp

The Coffer resonates at 440Hz

= A

In music, pitch is the perception of the frequency of a note. For example, the A above middle C is nowadays set at 440 Hz (often written as "A = 440 Hz", and known as concert pitch). Pitch is often cited as one of the fundamental aspects of music.

BROOK

12-31-2009, 07:46 AM

"An acoustic levitator includes a pair of opposed sound sources which have interfering sound waves producing acoustic energy wells in which an object may be levitated. The phase of one sound source may be changed relative to the other in order to move the object along an axis between the sound sources."

Tom Danley also became interested in the Great Pyramid. Here is an extract from his interview in FATE magazine in 1998.

"In the Great Cheops Pyramid in the King's Chamber an F-sharp chord is resident, sometimes below the range of human hearing. Former NASA consultant Tom Danley feels the sound may be caused by wind blowing cross the ends of the air shafts and causing a pop-bottle effect. These vibrations, some ranging as low a 9 hertz down to 0.5 hertz, are enhanced by the dimensions of the Pyramid, as well as the King's Chamber and the sarcophagus case inside. According to Danley, even the type of stone was selected to enhance these vibrations."

In a 1997 video, JJ Hurtak said "this chord (F-sharp) is the harmonic of planet Earth to which native Americans still tune their instruments, and is in perfect harmony with the human body."

In the Great Pyramid these sounds are infrasonic vibrations, meaning they are below the level of human hearing.

Another researcher, John Reid, an acoustic engineer stated that while he was lying in the coffer and vocalizing various tones he was staggered by the intensity of the reflected energy. He said "the effect of lying in the sarcophagus while toning its prime resonant frequency is almost like taking a bath. Waves of sonic energy wash over your body almost like water".
It does not appear that all this was accidental or incorporated for a ritual. It must have had a more important purpose.

http://www.aliensurgeon.com/EyeofHorus_relaysatelite.gif

http://www.aliensurgeon.com/EgyptianMachines_abydoswall.jpg

http://www.aliensurgeon.com/eye_of_horusblink.gif

http://www.gizapyramid.com/articles/levitation.htm

orthodoxymoron

12-31-2009, 08:13 AM

BROOK

12-31-2009, 08:32 AM

ANOTHER CHAPTER OF THE TUAT AND OF COMING FORTH BY DAY.

http://www.aliensurgeon.com/pyramflyfrm1.jpg

Open is the land of Unu. Shut is the head of Thoth. Perfect is the Eye of Horus. I have delivered the Eye of Horus, the shining one, the ornament of the Eye of Ra, the Father of the Gods. I am that same Osiris who dwelleth in Amentet. Osiris knoweth his day, which cometh to an end. I am Set, the Father of the Gods.
I shall never come to an end.

BROOK

12-31-2009, 08:39 AM

Rituals and Ceremony

An excerpt from The Atlantis Blueprint: It was in the immense Temple of Horus at Edfu, midway between Luxor and Aswan, that my attention was drawn to the importance of sound. An Egyptian historian, Emil Shaker, showed me some hieroglyphics on the wall close to the sanctuary, pointing out how they specified the number of times the temple ritual had to be performed. In this case, it was three. He explained: "It is no use performing the ritual two or four times. It will not work. If it says three times, it means three times.' This ritual, like all religious rituals, involves chanting a hymn to the sun and presenting the god with offerings."

The author indicated that the ritual "activates the temple." "Exactly like switching on a light." This notion is fascinating--a ritual involving chanting could 'activate' a temple.

The book also notes that the King's Chamber suggest that the pyramid was constructed with a sonic purpose. Danley identifies four resident frequencies, or notes, that are enhanced by the structure of the pyramid and by the materials used in its construction. The notes from an F sharp chord---according to ancient Egyptian texts were the harmonic of the planet.

Tests show these are the frequencies in the King's chamber even when no sounds are being produced. According to Danley, these vibrations are caused by the wind blowing across the ends of the so-called shafts in the same way as sounds are created when on blows across the neck of the bottle.

http://shamanicliving.blogspot.com/2008/06/more-on-rituals-from-atlantis-blueprint.html

BROOK

12-31-2009, 08:49 AM

Crystals and The Kings Chamber

The quartz crystal is the transducer. It transforms one form of energy into another. Understanding the source of the energy and having the means to tap into it, all we need to do is convert the unlimited mechanical stresses therein into usable electricity utilizing quartz crystals!

The granite out of which this chamber is constructed is an igneous rock containing silicon quartz crystals. This particular granite, which was brought from the Aswan Quarries, contains 55% or more quartz crystal.

“This means that lining the King’s Chamber, for instance, are literally hundreds of tons of microscopic quartz particles. The particles are hexagonal, by-pyramidal or rhombohedral in shape. Rhomboid crystals are six-sided prisms with quadrangle sides that present a parallelogram on any of the six facets. This guarantees that embedded within the granite rock is a high percentage of quartz fragments whose surfaces, by the law of natural averages, are parallel on the upper and lower sides. Additionally, any slight plasticity of the granite aggregate would allow a ‘piezotension’ upon these parallel surfaces and cause an electromotive flow. The great mass of stone above the pyramid chambers presses downward by gravitational force upon the granite walls thereby converting them into perpetual electric generators.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/piramides/esp_piramide_14.htm

BROOK

12-31-2009, 05:28 PM

Wow! There is a lot to digest in this thread. I'm just starting to get into Egyptology. Perhaps the Giza Plateau is a good place to look backward to Atlantis...and even to our possible distant past in the stars...AND to look forward through biblical times...to our present time...and beyond...possibly back to the stars! And Gizeh Intelligence always seems (to me) to be lurking in the shadows...and beneath the Giza Plateau.

:original:Namaste:original:

Yes , Orthodoxymoron...Trying to connect the dots...sometimes can make you go blind...then again...it can put a different perspective on things if you truly open your eyes...and search.

Just keep your eyes and your mind open :thumb_yello:

BROOK

12-31-2009, 06:01 PM

The land of the West....or Atlantis?

http://ascendingpassage.com/sphinx-pyramids.jpg

Scattered though they may be, an interesting picture emerges from the numerous references to Thoth in the earliest writings of the ancient Egyptians--and that picture fits the theory of an Atlantean origin for this intriguing character. Although late writings depict him as a god, the earliest texts depict him as a king

http://www.atlantisquest.com/thoth.jpg
Thoth was born in a distant country to the west which was across a body of water. Its main city was by the sea (Plato's metropolis). The land possessed volcanos and the city had a low mountain or large hill in the center. This land is sometimes referred to as an Island of Fire.

In the Book of the Dead, Thoth rules the "Western Domain," and by the end of the New Kingdom he is called "Lord of the West" . He is said to be the inventor of writing, astronomy, mathematics and civilization in general . Thoth is often called the Scribe.

A catastrophe occurred which darkened the sun and disturbed the gods, but Thoth led them across the sea to an eastern country (Egypt). Thoth is depicted as the "controller of the Flood," Thus it appears that Thoth was once the ruler of an Island Kingdom in the West before the Egyptian priests turned him into a god. The question therefore is: Was the Egyptian Tehuti-Thoth originally a migrant from Atlantis, and did he once rule as a king there?

Land of the West

Now the "Land of the West" would be a natural Egyptian name for Atlantis. Ancient Egyptian records sometimes refer to the Atlantic as the "Western Ocean".

Two words:
Set: can mean foreign land, mountainous
land, or the underworld (Inscription
of Anebni, 18th Dynasty)

http://www.atlantisquest.com/set.jpeg
Amentet: can mean either West, or
Land of the West (Funeral Stele of
Panehesi, 19th Dynasty)

http://www.atlantisquest.com/amentet.jpeg
That the glyph set also represented the "underworld," does fit, after a fashion, since this is the land where the sun shines after it has set on the land of Egypt. It was believed in popular Egyptian mythology that the sun passed through the underworld on its way back to rise once more in the east.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/efl/img/21300.jpg
the "seven Islands" of Anemtet

The Egyptians often appear to distinguish between Amentet (the opposite side of the world where the sun makes its return to the east) and Tuat (the realm of the dead, that of departed spirits), yet Egyptologists sometimes translate either glyph as "underworld". Amentet combines the glyph for "foreign land" (using set as a determinative for "land" or "place") alongside other glyphs meaning "west", meaning "Land of the West".

BROOK

12-31-2009, 06:50 PM

Now orthodoxymoron, If you will recall...several pages earlier in this thread I had mentioned to keep your eye on Thoth? A big player in your line of questioning .

Starting on page 2, I believe :naughty:

BROOK

12-31-2009, 08:25 PM

One more thought on the Atlantis connection

There is a certain degree of similarity between the Egyptian glyph for "temple" and an actual stone-walled building among the underwater ruins in the Bahamas. Near Andros island (on a shallow underwater shelf) is a rectangular ruin made of stone. Its walls are approximately three feet thick.

Egyptian glyph for "temple"

http://www.atlantisquest.com/temple1.jpg

Andros "Temple" floorplan.http://www.atlantisquest.com/temple2.jpg

Underwater picture....
http://www.atlantisquest.com/temple.jpg

http://www.atlantisquest.com/temple.jpg

Finally, various researchers, have also noticed that the Bahama Island "temple" floorplan is basically identical to that of the Mayan "Temple of the Turtles" in Uxmal, Yucatan. So now we have Egypt, the Bahamas, and Mesoamerica. Interesting . . . . .

http://www.atlantisquest.com/MTL.gif

micjer

01-01-2010, 12:06 AM

I find this symbol most interesting :naughty:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41nKLR8Cp5L.jpg

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This is very interesting. This is the part Dan Brown left out of the "Lost Symbol"

New Age Messiah

01-01-2010, 01:40 AM

This is very interesting. This is the part Dan Brown left out of the "Lost Symbol"

Yeah, that is interesting.

WinterWolf

01-01-2010, 01:45 AM

Yes , Orthodoxymoron...Trying to connect the dots...sometimes can make you go blind...then again...it can put a different perspective on things if you truly open your eyes...and search.

Just keep your eyes and your mind open :thumb_yello:

This is kind of disconcerting that you are indirectly quoting me from the thoughts I out down on my profile message board and this isn't the first time....

Winter Wolf

BROOK

01-01-2010, 01:51 AM

So sorry...but it did make me think..and it is what ODM is saying in another post...

I'm going to try to spend some quality time with Egyptology...which could be the key to a lot of things...including properly understanding the Bible and the history of most religions. We may all have more in common than we realize. Stargate SG1 may help us to connect a lot of dots. Science fiction may contain more truth than we think. I think the PTB (many of them) want us to get informed...without going crazy. Science fiction may be one of the best ways of helping us to 'get it'. We can be dangerously irrational at times...and disclosure may have to occur here and there...with truth and fiction intermingled...over a period of many years. I think we are about half-way through the disclosure process...and I think that the disorientation and disillusionment will be profound. Egypt and North Africa may have a lot to do with disclosure. Take a very close look at Hathor, Amen Ra, and the Giza Plateau. Just a hunch. Watch the videos in the first post...as a group...and then connect the dots. We live in very interesting times.

Namaste

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron View Post
WinterWolf: We might be shocked if we knew our full reincarnational histories. I won't do regression hypnosis. I worry about regressive interference and deception. I also worry about who I might have been...and how badly I might have $crewed things up. At times...I'm almost frantic when I think about Universal and Earth History. It's so overwhelming if you really face yourself...and think. It only hurts when I think. I indulge in the masturbation of the mind...which is quite painful...and which is causing me to become spiritually blind.

Namaste

WinterWolf

01-01-2010, 01:54 AM

So sorry...but it did make me think..and it is what ODM is saying in another post...

It's ok. It was just disconcerting. I had forgotten ODM had mentioned dots and spiritual blindness.

What I was commenting on isn't just going spiritually blind. It is losing focus on what you were set out to do and becoming ensnared in other matters not critical to the matter at hand. I was thinkng more broadscale.

Winter Wolf

BROOK

01-01-2010, 02:26 AM

Well orthodoxymoron...I have left enough of my thoughts, and clues I find interesting, in the direction you are leaning...I hope I have helped in your quest for an answer.

Just remember...like any good movie..there are good guys, and bad guys...I leave you with what I believe is one of the good ones....as I have nothing more to add

http://www.the2012countdown.com/images/isis.gif

orthodoxymoron

01-01-2010, 04:04 AM

Thank-you for the extra effort BROOK! Anna Hayes has some interesting things to say about Thoth...about evolving really well before blowing it!

I think I just need to read a good book on Egyptology...and a great book on the Gods and Goddesses in all cultures and religions. The theory remains on the table...that there may be a single Goddess who rebelled against a Pleaidian God (killing this God, who was possibly Amen Ra)...and who brought a portion of the Human Race to Earth...on Battlestar Moon...and who created most of the Gods, Goddesses, Theologies, and Governments...throughout history (including Atlantean and contemporary history)...and who even may have written the writings attibuted to William Shakespeare (although this last speculation might be the biggest stretch of all!). The Reptilians are the Wild Card! I mean no disrespect in my speculations. If this Goddess exists presently...I would like to meet her...but I won't kneel!

Even if the preceding paragraph is utter rubbish...it may be a good place to begin when considering the broad sweep of history in hot pursuit of a Universal Theory of Universal History.

:original:Namaste:original:

Magamud

01-01-2010, 05:42 AM

I think a power of consciousness reached a level of mind and cosmos wanting to create a world better then nature itself. It was allowed to flourish creating a holographic universe of its own in accordance to free will. Souls knowing what has been done chose to experience this GODs world and take the challenge. Can a world exist without spirit.
The answer is yes it can but is it sustainable NO....
So we have a matrix of severe gravity, a hologram with infinite knowledge/redirection, art and myth to understand this simple idea. truth mixed with lies the snake interweaving, the helix.

ranma187

01-03-2010, 12:13 AM

Is this the same Ra that David Wilcock Channels? because i met DW in a dream and in the dream he channeled Ra.

I'll post it here:

Dream 2: I'm in David Wilcock's home. It is very large and there are many hallways that lead to conference rooms

I enter a computer room and Notice The Cusp is sitting at the computer. I talk with him for a bit about where we are. He puts on a Tool CD: Lateralus.
I look at the cover and realise not all the tracks are on the CD. It is missing an instrumental song. ( I used to have a burned copy of the cd with one of the tracks missing).

For some reason i leave the room and scope out the place. I had been there many times before. There was one small conference room where David had given us lectures (Dream memories) that I was quite fond of. I went down the hallway to where I thought it was. but it was a different room. I left the hallway and found another hall. No conference room there either. I did this a few times.

I made it back to the living room and started admiring how tidy the place was. It was very well decorated. David came out one of the hallways and said Hi. he asked "Is anyone with you here?" I said "Yeah I seen The Cusp around. But hey, how come i can never seem to make out his face.?

David said "Yeah he likes to hide it for some reason... I'll be in my lounge, i have to get ready and then I'll call you in"

He walked into a room beside the computer room. Just then The Cusp Walked by. he didn't seem aware of me. There was a fog covering his face. I concentrated on him as he walked by. When he turned his head he left a tracer of a clear image of his face. He looked familiar. I was sure i KNEW him, but from where i didn't know.

"you can come in now Robert." David said.

I walked into his lounge. there was a semi circle couch surrounding a coffee table. As I walked in his voice tone shifted. His voice was so startlingly strange i couldn't make out what he was saying. I sat down and looked at David. There was something about his eyes that made no sense.
He had four eyes. Two in a normal face positing and two others near his temples. I knew i had seen faces like that before and wasn't startled. David kept on talking about something, but i was too transfixed on his eyes. he two center eyes were bright red with black pupils. The two outer eyes were bright green with black pupils.

"Oh i know!" I said. "You're channeling Ra!". I shifhted my seating position. He looked at me and said "Fool! in this place I become RA". And he continued to talk. "It's time for you to leave for now!".

He kept talking but i felt myself getting dizzy. Like when they put you under for an operation.

Missing Time

orthodoxymoron

01-03-2010, 01:57 AM

That was creepy...ranma 187.

BROOK provided me with a link http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/ptah.htm where I found this:

"Ptah was a creator god, the third highest god in Egypt. He was the god presiding over the Second Egyptian month, known as Paopi by Greek times. From a local god of craftsmen to the deity who crafted the universe and the other deities, Ptah was only overshadowed by the sun god Ra, and the hidden god Amen. He fashioned the universe through words of power and by thought, as well as creating different parts by hand. He helped the dead on their travels through the afterlife, allowing them to transform into his divine figure, or by building the boats on which they could travel. He was the one who allowed the dead to be like the living after death with the Opening of the Mouth ceremony. The Apis bull was his sacred animal, more of a representation of his soul on earth who gave fertility and rebirth to the people. He was an ancient god who the Egyptians worshiped through their long history."

Was Ra killed? Is Amen the Spirit of Ra? I don't know Jack about Amen or Ra. I thought Amen Ra was one being.

I continue to worry about the fate of the Founders/Ancients. I see evidence of them in the Creation...but not in the day to day administration of this Solar System. I also wonder about how the Reptilians came into existence (assuming that they really exist). Who, if anyone, created them? Who, if anyone, controls them? Could the same being(s) who terminated the Founders/Ancients (assuming that they were terminated)...also be responsible for the creation and control of the Reptilians? Did someone secretly create the Reptilians...and then use them to wage Star Wars...to attempt to become the Master(s) of the Universe? At some point...did this hypothetical Reptilian slave race overthrow their Human Master(s)? Is a hypothetical Divinity Within Humanity all that remains of the Founders/Ancients? Was Ra killed? Is Amen the hidden manifestation of Ra aka the Holy Spirit? Is Lucifer/Hathor a prime suspect in the disappearance of Ra...and in the creation of the Reptilians? Is Ptah really Lucifer/Hathor? I tend to think that all possibilities should be considered in a reasonable, rational, and detached manner. I don't want to believe...and I don't know. I just have a lot of questions...and huge issues. Einstein said that the Universe is stranger than we think...and that the Universe is stranger than we can think. What exactly was he referring to?

I'm wondering if there was a Luciferian rebellion...which contained some legitimate aspects...but which spiraled out of control? Can beings who have done really dark things in universal history...be forgiven and reformed...even if they are completely reprobate and very dangerous presently? I think that the ancient mythologies and biblical stories are a mixture of fact and fiction...and that we really have to read between the lines...and use a multidisciplinary approach...with very open minds...to get at the real truth. We may hate the PTB for lying to us...but we may hate them even more, if and when, they tell us the truth. Often the consequences of telling the truth about a marital affair are much more devastating than continuing to lie. Oh what a tangled web they weave...and we are so easily deceived!

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

01-05-2010, 03:30 AM

This part of an Alex Collier presentation has me puzzled and troubled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTPT83gG3II&feature=related Please tell me what you think about this video clip. Everything seems so insane to me presently. I have very little peace. I seemed to have a positive connection to the stars as a child...and I seemed to be quite bright. But it's been downhill ever since. Dumber and dumber...more and more miserable...I have no idea where this madness will end. I have no idea whether things are going to work out well for us or not. If we are exterminated/enslaved...I'm probably going to be in more trouble than most. Just a hunch.

:sad:Namaste:sad:

RedeZra

01-05-2010, 04:00 AM

This part of an Alex Collier presentation has me puzzled and troubled.

see it's not so easy to discern fiction from facts

the mind which is a fiction enjoys fantasy

the more fantastic the merrier

besides eloquent people dont feed us bull do they lol

orthodoxymoron

01-05-2010, 04:00 PM

see it's not so easy to discern fiction from facts

the mind which is a fiction enjoys fantasy

the more fantastic the merrier

besides eloquent people dont feed us bull do they lol

Thank-you RedeZra. I continue to think that most of what we are exposed to in Camelot/Avalon is either intentionally or unintentionally BS...but that there is a core of forbidden truth which just might save the world. I continue to treat most of what we discuss as being science fiction...which could very well be true. I speculate endlessly...but I know very little for sure...and I admit this freely. I do try very hard to approximate reality...but I don't have a clue how successful my feeble efforts really are. Sometimes I think that some 'whistleblowers' are selected to reveal certain bits of sensitive truth...but encapsulated in total BS. I sometimes think that they agree to do and say as they are told. If this is true...I don't necessarily object to this. It may be the way it has to be. But reader and listener beware. Think for yourselves! Do your own homework! Sample a very wide variety of sources...and don't just latch onto one of them! Good luck!

:wall:Namaste:mad3:

Bobbie

01-05-2010, 05:04 PM

It may be silly for me to think this but I believe our truth lies somewhere in the middle of all that is discussed here. It could be that the more unbelievable things will never touch us in the dimension in which we personally reside. What affects one will not necessarily affect the other.

I also think that there are a group of souls that volunteered to come here at this time to hold the light of the positive Universe which will be instrumental in this planet elevating to a higher form of existence. I feel many on this forum are some of those volunteers. Do I know that for 100% - no - but it's a feeling/ a knowing. Of course we can know inaccurate things but for me there has to be some sort of validation for my intuitions. I don't know how many have experience with certain number frequencies or not but they exist very prominately in my life and, to me, that's no coincidence....just like the real crop circles are no coincidence. Does anyone really think that they could be a black ops sense of humor display? I really don't think they have a sense of humor.

orthodoxymoron

01-06-2010, 11:20 PM

Could Ra have been Reptilian? Could Amen = Interdimensional Reptilians = Spirit of Ra = Goa'uld? Could Ptah/Isis/Hathor/Lucifer/Mary have created Amen Ra...and destroyed Ra? Do the Reps hate us so much because 'we' killed Ra?

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

01-07-2010, 09:12 PM

I'm not sure if I posted this link already on this thread...but it is 'Riddles in Stone' from the 'Secret History of America's Beginnings': http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3924304351562745462&ei=8ZacSrXNGYX-qAO4naiIBA&q=washington+dc+symbolism# It is a fascinating documentary with an emphasis on the Masonic, Egyptian, and Secret Society influences on America, and on the design of Washington D.C. This one really connected a lot of dots for me...in a very balanced and fair manner.

:original:Namaste:original:

orthodoxymoron

01-08-2010, 05:23 AM

Here is another link which you might find interesting (John Rhodes): http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles38.htm

Here's yet another speculative intellectual ejaculation resulting from the masturbation of the mind:

What if Reptilians evolved...but not Humans? What if the entire universe was Reptilian? What if there were no Humans anywhere? What if the entire universe was a Reptilian Universal Church Theocracy? What if Humans were created as a slave race? ('Let us make man in our image') What if Lucifer (Ptah?) was the Reptilian in charge of the genetic engineering project which resulted in the creation of Human Beings? What if Humans were mistreated as slaves? What if a group of Reptilians, led by Lucifer, conspired with Humans, to kill God the Father (Ra?)...and take over 'Heaven'? What if this was the Luciferian Rebellion which led to War in Heaven...and the death of God the Father (Ra?)? What if the Reptilians loyal to God (Ra?) fought against the Luciferian Reptilians and Human Beings...driving them out of the Garden of Eden (Heaven?) What if Battlestar Moon was used to transport the Luciferian Reptilians and Humans to Aldebaran, Sirius, and Earth...while being violently pursued by Nibiru? What if Interdimensional Reptilians aka The Spirit of God aka Amen battle with Luciferian Interdimensional Reptilians and the Divinity Within Humanity aka The Holy Spirit...to regain control of the Renegade Human Race? What if the New World Order is the Kingdom of Ra? What if the Luciferian Reptilians and a select group of Humans run Earth from underground bases on Earth and the Moon? Could this be Gizeh Intelligence? Could Reptilians and Humans loyal to Ra be Zionists? Could Reptilians and Humans loyal to Lucifer be Teutonic Zionists? Could a pacifist union of both factions be Followers of Jesus? Could Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom be the solution to this ancient mess?

How much trouble am I in now? Probably quite a bit. But once again...this is just speculation...with no inside information whatsoever.

:original:Namaste:original:

BROOK

01-09-2010, 04:38 AM

Merkaba

http://www.2012info.ca/images/merkaba-ascension.jpg

http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/images/merkaba.gif

Mer meant a kind of light that rotated within itself

Ka meant spirit, in this case referring to the human spirit

Ba meant the human body — though it also could mean the concept of Reality that spirit holds

And so the entire word in ancient Egypt referred to a rotating light that would take the spirit and the body from one world into another

The Flower of Life

http://www.newparadigmjournal.com/Oct2008/flower-pic3.gif

The Flower of Life set in stone at the Temple of Osiris at Abydos, Egypt.

Bobbie

01-09-2010, 04:53 AM

I'm sure someone has done this but I don't know who and I really haven't researched it. I was wondering if someone has located all the known pyramids on the earth and mapped them to see if they form a pattern or if they are connected in a significant way.. I'm sure they are on "hot spots" and the pyramid shape just enhances the hot spots power.... amongst other things.

THE MISSING CHAMBERS OF THE GREAT PYRAMID
by Ian James Colmer

http://www.ianjamescolmer.com/greatone.jpg

http://www.ianjamescolmer.com/pyramid.htm

On this site...he talks of the F Sharp, and much more...a very good read....are the pyramids a Stargate? Now deactivated...waiting for reactivation?

no caste

01-09-2010, 04:54 AM

:wall:Namaste:mad3:

:mfr_lol: I see your namaste and raise it ::sad:Namaste:tears:

PS ortho I read on one of your threads (sorry, forget which one)
that black helicopters were coming around your place. Ya? What was going on?

orthodoxymoron

01-09-2010, 05:03 AM

:mfr_lol: I see your namaste and raise it ::sad:Namaste:tears:

PS ortho I read on one of your threads (sorry, forget which one)
that black helicopters were coming around your place. Ya? What was going on?

I joke a lot about stuff like that! But once I was typing a particularly sensitive post (in my view)...and there really was a helicopter hovering over my house. I don't think there was any connection...but it was still a bit unnerving...especially for someone on the edge...like me. But really...with Interdimensional Reptilians watching me 24/7 (my guardian angels?)...why should even a black helecopter be a cause for alarm?

:mad3: Namaste:lightsabre: = oxymoron

micjer

01-09-2010, 05:06 AM

I'm sure someone has done this but I don't know who and I really haven't researched it. I was wondering if someone has located all the known pyramids on the earth and mapped them to see if they form a pattern or if they are connected in a significant way.. I'm sure they are on "hot spots" and the pyramid shape just enhances the hot spots power.... amongst other things.

You have come to right place...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17724

Check out 19.47 degrees below and above the equator. Not just on earth. (maybe on mars also)

BROOK

01-09-2010, 05:10 AM

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth

http://www.crystalinks.com/thothgreen.jpg

Now ye assemble, my children,
waiting to hear the Secret of Secrets
which shall give ye power to unfold the God-man,
give ye the way to Eternal life.

Plainly shall I speak of the Unveiled Mysteries.
No dark sayings shall I give unto thee.
Open thine ears now, my children.
Hear and obey the words that I give.

First I shall speak of the fetters of darkness
which bind ye in chains to the sphere of the Earth.

Darkness and light are both of one nature,
different only in seeming,
for each arose from the source of all.
Darkness is disorder.
Light is Order.
Darkness transmuted is light of the Light.
This, my children, your purpose in being;
transmutation of darkness to light.

Hear ye now of the mystery of nature,
the relations of life to the Earth where it dwells.
Know ye, ye are threefold in nature,
physical, astral and mental in one.

Three are the qualities of each of the natures;
nine in all, as above, so below.

In the physical are these channels,
the blood which moves in vortical motion,
reacting on the heart to continue its beating.
Magnetism which moves through the nerve paths,
carrier of energies to all cells and tissues.
Akasa which flows through channels,
subtle yet physical, completing the channels.

Each of the three attuned with each other,
each affecting the life of the body.
Form they the skeletal framework through
which the subtle ether flows.
In their mastery lies the Secret of Life in the body.
Relinquished only by will of the adept,
when his purpose in living is done.

Three are the natures of the Astral,
mediator is between above and below;
not of the physical, not of the Spiritual,
but able to move above and below.

Three are the natures of Mind,
carrier it of the Will of the Great One.
Arbitrator of Cause and Effect in thy life.
Thus is formed the threefold being,
directed from above by the power of four.

Above and beyond man's threefold nature
lies the realm of the Spiritual Self.

Four is it in qualities,
shining in each of the planes of existence,
but thirteen in one,
the mystical number.
Based on the qualities of man are the Brothers:
each shall direct the unfoldment of being,
each shall channels be of the Great One.

On Earth, man is in bondage,
bound by space and time to the earth plane.
Encircling each planet, a wave of vibration,
binds him to his plane of unfoldment.
Yet within man is the Key to releasement,
within man may freedom be found.

http://www.crystalinks.com/merkaba.gif

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

BROOK

01-09-2010, 05:39 AM

http://www.qigonghealer.com/folegypt.jpg

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth

The flower of Life

The Keys of Life and Death

List ye, O man, hear ye the wisdom.
Hear ye the Word that shall fill thee with Life.
Hear ye the Word that shall banish the darkness.
Hear ye the voice that shall banish the night.

Mystery and wisdom have I brought to my children;
knowledge and power descended from old.
Know ye not that all shall be opened
when ye shall find the oneness of all?

One shall ye be with the Masters of Mystery,
Conquerors of Death and Masters of Life.
Aye, ye shall learn of the flower of Amenti
the blossom of life that shines in the Halls.
In Spirit shall ye reach that Halls of Amenti
and bring back the wisdom that liveth in Light.
Know ye the gateway to power is secret.
Know ye the gateway to life is through death.
Aye, through death but not as ye know death,
but a death that is life and is fire and is Light.

Desireth thou to know the deep, hidden secret?
Look in thy heart where the knowledge is bound.
Know that in thee the secret is hidden,
the source of all life and the source of all death.

List ye, O man, while I tell the secret,
reveal unto thee the secret of old.

Deep in Earth's heart lies the flower,
the source of the Spirit
that binds all in its form.
or know ye that the Earth is living in body
as thou art alive in thine own formed form.
The Flower of Life is as thine own place of Spirit
and streams through the Earth
as thine flows through thy form;
giving of life to the Earth and its children,
renewing the Spirit from form unto form.
This is the Spirit that is form of thy body,
shaping and molding into its form.

BROOK

01-09-2010, 06:00 AM

The emerald Tablets of Thoth

on The keys of Mystery

(Are we speaking of Reptilians?)

In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamor was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.

But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.

Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world.
Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.

Called may they be by the master
who knows the white or the black,
but only the white master may control
and bind them while in the flesh.

Seek not the kingdom of shadows,
for evil will surely appear.
For only the master of brightness
shall conquer the shadow of fear.

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald8bw.html

Bobbie

01-09-2010, 01:00 PM

Thanks - I knew there just had to be someone who had done this and I very much appreciate your finding it. Thanks again.You have come to right place...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17724

Check out 19.47 degrees below and above the equator. Not just on earth. (maybe on mars also)

BROOK

01-09-2010, 03:12 PM

Thanks - I knew there just had to be someone who had done this and I very much appreciate your finding it. Thanks again.

19.47 and the vortex is in everything..from the smallest cell...to the Sun

:naughty: It's the Merkaba ......Mer Ka Ba :wink2:

http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/images/merkaba.gif

From Thoth....as written above

Four is it in qualities,
shining in each of the planes of existence,
but thirteen in one,
the mystical number.
Based on the qualities of man are the Brothers:
each shall direct the unfoldment of being,
each shall channels be of the Great One.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=190649&postcount=7

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1521/startetradavinciif0.jpg

BROOK

01-10-2010, 07:22 AM

http://api.ning.com/files/qERYWQQNRNl2TY-z3CLBip1DaWEAK9VU74-edO9p3Jc_/thakasha.jpg

Halls of Amenti

Deep in Earth’s heart lie the Halls of Amenti,
far ‘neath the islands of sunken Atlantis,
Halls of the Dead and halls of the living,
bathed in the fire of the infinite ALL.

Far in a past time, lost in the space time,
the Children of Light looked down on the world.
Seeing the children of men in their bondage,
bound by the force that came from beyond.
Knew they that only by freedom from bondage
could man ever rise from the Earth to the Sun.

Down they descended and created bodies,
taking the semblance of men as their own.
The Masters of everything said after their forming:

“We are they who were formed from the space-dust,
partaking of life from the infinite ALL;
living in the world as children of men,
like and yet unlike the children of men.”

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/bea/1f3/bea1f333-ec0f-4786-9d3b-5807da921299
THOTH the Atlantean

I, THOTH, the Atlantean, master of mysteries,
keeper of records, mighty king, magician,
living from generation to generation,
being about to pass into the halls of Amenti,
set down for the guidance of
those that are to come after,
these records of the mighty wisdom of Great Atlantis.

In the great city of KEOR on the island of UNDAL,
in a time far past, I began this incarnation.
Not as the little men of the present age did
the mighty ones of Atlantis live and die,
but rather from aeon to aeon did they renew
their life in the Halls of Amenti where the river of life
flows eternally onward.

A hundred times ten
have I descended the dark way that led into light,
and as many times have I ascended from the
darkness into the light my strength and power renewed.

Now for a time I descend,
and the men of KHEM (Khem is ancient Egypt)
shall know me no more.

But in a time yet unborn will I rise again,
mighty and potent, requiring an accounting
of those left behind me.

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/42/94542-004-04506B4B.jpg

From 'Voyage to Egypt'
Opening the Amenti Light-Code Seals

All manifest forms are built upon unseen templates of light and sound called morphogenetic fields. Morphogenetic fields of light and sound composed of set of electro-tonal standing wave patterns called scalar waves. The planetary morphogenetic field is a scalar grid, divided into sections called Planetary Shields. Certain portions of the Planetary Shields control inter-dimensional Star-Gates that have been dormant for thousands of years, due to Geomantic Light-Code Seals (electro-magnetic frequency seals) placed on them by the Ancient Priests of Ur and visiting Stellar Races. The Star Gate Seals could be opened only after the opening of the Arc of the Covenant, which occurred on June 26, 1998 at 3:46 p.m. It is now time to begin releasing the Star Gate Seals of the Giza Complex, which will set in motion the opening of the Halls of Amenti and Halls of Records. When a Seal releases, its dormant standing scalar wave patterns come to life in the Planetary Shields. The 1st Star Gate Seal is the 8th dimensional Seal of Orion. Releasing the Seal of Orion "awakens" the corresponding dormant standing scalar wave patterns, the "Flame of Orion", within the Planetary Shields, activating the Orion Star Gate of Giza. The Seal of Orion also exists within the human body. Awakening the Flame of Orion within the human body begins activation of the higher chakra centers (8-15), the KA and dormant DNA codes. Awakening the planetary and personal Flame of Orion is a process called Keylontic Morphogenetic Science. An ancient Soul group called the Keepers of the Eternal Flame was appointed by the Priests of Ur as Guardians of the Amenti star Gate Seals. This soul group reincarnates on earth during time periods when the Star Gates can be opened. The period of 2000-2017 is the first time the Star Gates can fully open in over 200,000 years. During this journey we will use Advanced Ascension Mechanics as taught in the ancient Egyptian, sumerian and Essene mystical schools, to awaken the Flame of Orion within the Giza complex and within the bio-energetic fields of those attending.
Discover the Secrets of Amenti, the forbidden knowledge of our race's Stellar Origins and intended evolutionary destiny, as revealed by the Keepers of the Flame Melchizedek Cloister. Go deep inside our heart and ask "The Still Small Voice Within' if you have an ancient appointment with destiny to be on this sacred voyage.

micjer

01-10-2010, 03:15 PM

Brook,

Do you think that these are the same seals that are talked about in Revelation 5 ?

M

BROOK

01-10-2010, 05:13 PM

Brook,

Do you think that these are the same seals that are talked about in Revelation 5 ?

M

Micjer,

I don't know. Could very well be. But I do know I had stopped posting on this thread and any thread for a while...as I had nothing more to add...and not much more to say.

Then I had this dream...here I go with the dreams again. The last dream I had was about a blue flame..and a portal. I even did a thread on it. Then later we had that event with the Norway spiral

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17816

:nono:

But in this dream...I was directed to sit in this chair..and it had two stones on the arm of the chair. It was placed on what looked like one of those flat topped Mayan pyramids. I was told to slowly activate..and was guided by a faceless voice. I put my hands on the two stones ...and felt an electricity flowing through me then out of me. Not painful. And it made a low level, what I would describe as an electric noise.

As I activated slowly...a "rose" colored "vortex" with tiny gold specs started to come out of me...and spiraled down to earth...I asked what it was for, and the voice said "Gaia" to give her strength for the coming events. It was for her.

I was also shown the "flower of life" and told to read the emerald tablets. I was told that the flower of life was needed to fully activate the "rose colored vortex"...so I had better get working on that.

So this is why I started to post here again....I know what you're thinking....I have REALLY strange dreams.... :lmfao:

micjer

01-10-2010, 05:31 PM

A couple of years ago I would have thought that you were having weird dreams.

However lately I feel you are being shown this for a reason. Dreams and the bible to me are both metaphoric. We have to interpret them. Not necessarily take them word for word.

I do believe the flower of life is very important.

I am going to pm you something you may find interesting.

Cheers.

M

lightblue

01-10-2010, 05:50 PM

your dreams are most interesting, thanks for sharing
best wishes

BROOK

01-10-2010, 05:56 PM

Now that is something I find VERY interesting :naughty:

I am going to work on that ...and see where it leads...in all of this.

Thank you Micjer :thumb_yello:

Have I hijacked ODM's thread again :zip:

Jacqui D

01-10-2010, 07:15 PM

Brook you called that a dream i would say that was very prophetic, while we know in ourselves these real experiences are happening to us we feel/ sense much changing within us now.
I do not post my experiences any more but do still like to read those of others i felt a connection with your one and have had a similar electrical pulse through me some are definitely being activated i feel :wub2:

BROOK

01-10-2010, 10:38 PM

Well...there is more to the story..so let me share the secret key of Thoth..and see if it sparks in you as it did me. :wink2:

When ye have released the self from the body,
rise to the outermost bounds of your earth-plane.
Speak ye the word Dor-E-Lil-La.

Then for a time your Light will be lifted,
free may ye pass the barriers of space.
For a time of half of the sun (six hours),
free may ye pass the barriers of earth-plane,
see and know those who are beyond thee.

Yea, to the highest worlds may ye pass.
See your own possible heights of unfoldment,
know all earthly futures of Soul.

Bound are ye in your body,
but by the power ye may be free.
This is the Secret whereby bondage
shall be replaced by freedom for thee.

Calm let thy mind be.
At rest be thy body:
Conscious only of freedom from flesh.
Center thy being on the goal of thy longing.
Think over and over that thou wouldst be free.
Think of this word La-Um-I-L-Ganoover
and over in thy mind let it sound.
Drift with the sound to the place of thy longing.
Free from the bondage of flesh by thy will.

Hear ye while I give the greatest of secrets:
how ye may enter the Halls of Amenti,
enter the place of the immortals as I did,
stand before the Lords in their places.

Lie ye down in rest of thy body.
Calm thy mind so no thought disturbs thee.
Pure must ye be in mind and in purpose,
else only failure will come unto thee.

Vision Amenti as I have told in my Tablets.
Long with fullness of heart to be there.
Stand before the Lords in thy mind's eye.

Pronounce the words of power I give (mentally);
Mekut-El-Shab-El Hale-Sur-Ben-El-Zabrut Zin-Efrim-Quar-El.
Relax thy mind and thy body.
Then be sure your soul will be called.

Now give I the Key to Shamballa,
the place where my Brothers live in the darkness:
Darkness but filled with Light of the Sun
ODarkness of Earth, but Light of the Spirit,
guides for ye when my day is done.

Leave thou thy body as I have taught thee.
Pass to the barriers of the deep, hidden place.
Stand before the gates and their guardians.
Command thy entrance by these words:

I am the Light. In me is no darkness.
Free am I of the bondage of night.
Open thou the way of the Twelve and the One,
so I may pass to the realm of wisdom.

When they refuse thee, as surely they will,
command them to open by these words of power:
I am the Light. For me are no barriers.
Open, I command, by the Secret of Secrets
Edom-El-Ahim-Sabbert-Zur Adom.

Then if thy words have been Truth of the highest,
open for thee the barriers will fall.

Now, I leave thee, my children.
Down, yet up, to the Halls shall I go.
Win ye the way to me, my children.
Truly my brothers shall ye become.

Thus finish I my writings. Keys
let them be to those who come after.
But only to those who seek my wisdom,
for only for these am I the Key and the Way.

orthodoxymoron

01-11-2010, 02:15 AM

Thank-you for all of the great info BROOK. I'm a little slow getting into this Egyptology thing...but Thoth does seem to be very important. I found one of the drawings of Thoth (middle of post 241) to be especially interesting...and the Atlantean link is fascinating. Black history in connection with ancient Egypt could be very important. There are a lot of You Tube videos on the subject...but they are quite slanted...perhaps as an overcompensation for the contemporary inexcusable treatment of Blacks. I may have missed it...but was Thoth Anunakian, Draconian, or none of the above? Have the Anunaki and the Dracos been fighting over the Human Race for millions of years? Are we sort of like Frankenstein's Monster? Did the Reps create us...and then lose control of us? Have we taken over the lab...so to speak? Is the 'lab' surrounded by Reptilian Millitary Police with M-16K's? Are they sorry they created us? Genesis says as much...doesn't it? Is Earth a Planet in Rebellion? Are the Reps preparing to blow the whole lab up...if they can't get us under control by December 21, 2012? Are we a genetics experiment gone bad (in their view)? Are the red lights flashing and alarms sounding in Alpha Draconis? Are the Reps in fail-safe mode? Is the 'lab' in auto-destruct mode? How many trembling fingers have access to VERY POWERFUL red buttons? How many milliseconds to midnight now? How much trouble are we really in? Wait! Don't tell me! I like my little dream-world!

:mfr_omg:Namaste:mfr_omg:

WinterWolf

01-11-2010, 02:46 AM

The world will remain though other things may change. It isn't the end ofmthe world...just some changes may happen. Subtle changes perhaps, and maybe some no so subtle...

Winter Wolf