Quebec/Montreal survival community

[Olam]

Im calling on all Quebecers that have awakened to contribute to this thread, we need to get together. I have done preliminary work already, trying to find safe spaces. If we put aside the nuclear fact that sometime in the futur, most of North America will be radiated,(I think that local survival is for short term and may have to move south later when the real problems arrive). I have already checked spaces for sea level rises.
Most of Quebec is safe from a 8 meter rise in sea level...that is pretty good. Montreal region has some problems, mainly in the south shore which would be pretty much all under water, the laurentides of coarse are good with the mountains.
Abitibi seems like a very safe bet, with lots of clean water and good soil.
I have studied free energy devices, I am not a specialist, but from what I know up to now, I think a combination of devices would be the best bet. We would need devices that can handle high current and other ones for electronics.
Radiant energy and solar power could be good for electronics, but Im still looking for a good high current device. Im aware of a couple of inventions already on the web, the thing is, they seem quite complex to build(mostly magnet devices) and would need some help on that.
Spiritually speaking, I agree with Micheal St-Clair, we need everyone to be mentally stable and pushing in the same direction. I have been working with crystals for a while, I am still a novice but I know that this will play a big part in what I can contribute. Healing is one aspect of crystals, but we will also need to be able to communicate with other communities and crystals will play a big role in that....(meditation,connection with the soul).

Thats about it for now, I hope to contact fellow light warriors in my region to get this going.
In light and love,
Olam

[Cyberbird]

You are not alone.

; ]

[Fred]

Hi I Live

I am a french canadian, im presently studying in electrical engeniering, i chose that path of study because I needed to know more abount energy systems.

Im working with firends (all woke up) on some projects
-natural medecines
-energy sources
-Plants and seeds

All sort of thing to make sure we are ready to move on the next step and make sure we will survive

I have a few ppl with me, we need more because they are alot of thing to prepare and learn

I have hope
I dunno why but inside me i feel the posibility to do a difference

[Cyberbird]

Cool. Let's start.

1. Wait and see how many we are.

2. Discuss here what are the priorities (safe location, food, water, energy, etc)

3. Share information on priorities so each can start preparations.

4. Share information on significant events in Quebec and Canada (for example, federal election, majority for the conservative ? )

5. Share point of view about advantages and disavantages of the geo-strategic position of Quebec (for example, 2 meters of snow is an advantage against any martial law possibility)

6. Meet in real life to better know each other.

7. Organize a meeting with many for determine options in case of different scenarios: survival communities.


This is a draft. Your opinion is welcome.

[Indigo]

Hi All,


First, I would like to personally thanks all people involved in Project Camelot/Avalon for the tremendous works you guys done. You are my heroes :D No one has all the information for sure but the work you guys did is truly authentic and that's why I feel it's having such a big impact.

Now let's talk about me a little. I am from Montreal as well, actually I'm a good friend of Fred. We have known each others since high school. I work currently in computers as a system administrator. I always been very interested by technology since I was a kid. So when I started to wake up It's been easy for me to gather informations on all kinds of "forbidden topics". In fact I have compiled over 65 GB of independent documentaries on ufos, secret societies, religions, archeology, spirit world etc...Those films truly woke me up. The only source of information whose not completely controlled yet is the Internet...thanks god! I've been actually looking for truth for the past 3 years, at least consciously, and I feel ready for the next step. I also know someone from the inside sort of speak who told me amazing stories that coincided with the information I've read on the net.


Cyberbird, I like your plan and I feel the same way except I'm afraid we don't have much time. I'm glad to see that there is some quebebecers out there who cares much about the future of humanity than the next Montreal Canadians hockey game... :D

I think that we should meet asap. I don't know for you guys but I'm pretty tired of sitting behind my computer...waiting for something to happens. Let's be the change we wanna see and let's do it now. I'm ready to meet up whenever you guys feel to.

[THE eXchanger]

Greetings...i am working on a plan for ontario /
however, there are parts of "the belle" province,
that are awesome

let's keep in touch

[John aka#404]

hey gang... I may be way over here in Alberta, but want to make sure to say hello. So far seem to be the lone westerner.

[Olam]

Alright!,its really great to see that local folks have been into this for a while!...I have been trying to awake people I know and they look at me like I got too much time on my hands.....
Indigo, talking about sitting too long in front of the computer, well there will come a time soon when we might not have a computer to work with.

I have been printing valuable info and been compiling stuff on paper, like the next thing I will print will be the Survival guide that you can find in the resources section. I then have them binded and covered with a plastic sheet protecting it. I think its very important to put things in paper like it was 300 years ago!....we might end up like that in the near futur.
Indigo, 65gb of info is alot to put on paper!...maybe we could organize ourselves to share the printing, if we are due to survive together, makes no sense in having the same info in lots of copies.

Exchanger, I was in Ontario last month in the area of Peterborough, that is another place I was looking at, lots of woods with runnin water, good soil. Its also been ocupied by Natives since a very long time. That might be a place to go.
One other point I would like to make....I think we should have plans for short term survival and long term, I don't think its as critical as tha americans.In my opinion, they have to plan to either go deep in the woods or leave the US...a bit like the guy going to Equador who posted a thread here. He seems very advanced in his plans, he does not have a choice. If they declare marshall law in the US, they are toast, and it seems to be right around the corner.
I dont know if we would have a domino effect here, especially if our own dictator Harper is reelected.
Somehow, I feel that we would have more options here.
So very short term for me, say the serious world happening come soon, we are not prepared for it.
OK, this is a great place to start the gathering of info and making contacts, but if we need to leave Montreal soon,( I think the first thing to do is to leave the big cities), we need to rely on our own resources.
If nothing serious happends for the next 6-8 months, then I say we have a chance of getting a group organized and ready to act.
I don't want to be pessimist about this group here, but we need to individually be ready to be "on our own" if stuff happends fast.

So I got my own plans for short term, i have a 9yrs old daughter, along with her mother and extended family that I would take care of.

Long term prep work, like I said before, Im looking at Abitibi(my parents live there), Ontario around the Peterborough area(some like minded freinds there), or the laurentians( don't know anyone there), but its in the woods, good water and soil.

The last detail ùI would like to mention for now is the time factor...how long would we need to be in survival mode......the thing is, anyone preparing to "camp out" has to realize that someday, we will get out of that mode and come back to "normal living".
Are we talking 4-5 years?...till 2012 when we cross over to 4D?..
Maybe it would be a year or less, just to let the steam and dust fall from the mass cahos of not having electricity and food.
Maybe we would have to avoid mandatory military roundup to go serve WW3....how long could that be?
Lots of questions, I would like to know what you think....

thanks everyone who in contributing here, this is a great start, I think we need to discuss these before we actually start looking for some land, what do you think?
Cheers
Olam

OH Cybird, I just saw your rundown of things to do, that seems like the way to go....

[Cyberbird]

In case of extreme and sudden situation which demand extreme quick response and movement.

1. Don't panic. Think. Regroup.

2. Shelter
-Away from urbain area
-Away of tectonic plaque and volcanoes.
-Windless side of a mountain (not at the top)

3. Portable Filters for water.

4. Food

5. First Aid Kit

6. Tent, sleeping bag, survival tools

7. Fish rod, weapons

This is also a draft.

[eagleeyes]

saw your message. Your not alone.Reply?

[Deaf monk]

Greetings,my message may sound wrong but necessary.

If my life here have to end there, so be it.Trying to run away is normal but, be aware my friend that your life will end if it is needed,from radiation or from a car accident driving away from danger.I give you all a hint since it is still free.I will not buy extra car battery but i will sit in the high grass.I will not build a new society for i builded love until the beginning.I will not judge other people choice for i always judge myself after a death.

[eagleeyes]

yes im not alone but im seeing so many who are. Im in Canada too eh!
How far along in preparing are you? and what are you preparing for

[Deaf monk]

You do not have to prepare because you have already been there.

[Paragon]

awaken here ;)

nice to see some of you in Quebec

[imaculate]

I lived most of my life in Montreal ,Though I retired at 48 and now live in Gaspe . need a place of refuge?I am here .
162 acres of land mostly wooded situated that it would take 30 meters of sea level rise to swamp the house
trout and salmon river,on the ocean ;lots of wild game ,berries,Mushrooms on my property.
We are brothers and sisters ,I welcome all Canadians and Americans when the
s*** hits the fan contact me.
There is also a mine 60 miles away that can be used in case of radiation.
Francais ou Anglais je parle le deux, mais je suis Anglais.



:welcomeani:

[Olam]

Imaculate, thanks for the reply and info!...although I have been preparing for some kind of plan, you are already way ahead with all your resources.
It is very generous of you to offer all this,honestly, lets hope we don't need to use it, but if it comes to that, your offer is very interesting indeed.
I could eat salmon all year round!, what a luxury that would be.....Ill look around for a Salmon and berry recipe to bring over if needed:bleh:

[Nitrix]

Hey guys...I'm glad to see some fellow Quebecers that are awake.

Thanks for your offer Immaculate, it's very generous.

[firstfruit]

I am sorry please look here

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/150040-Mystery-hum-puzzles-geologists

There was also some article about water under the Asian continent the volume of which was said to be more than all the water on the surface of earth I am sorry I can’t find that article but I hope this link will help you find it

[mario_bros]

"6. Meet in real life to better know each other. " --- we should . The best way to talk and to know each other. Marius here , Polish-Canadian ,from Lachine

[imaculate]

Well if you need the offer do not be shy
We are brothers and sisters when the s*** hits the fan
Even if we have to have some in sleeping bags on the floor or in cots
lost of room big house.
the only problem is that I have planned food for only 4 people.
this will mean that those that come need to bring some food as well
depending on the season and what game is available.
All you'll need bring is freeze dried foods so get some ordered up.
enough for at least until the springtime when the season of gathering and farming begins again.
Lets hope it never comes to that and that wiser minds will prevail.

[Olam]

"6. Meet in real life to better know each other. " --- we should . The best way to talk and to know each other. Marius here , Polish-Canadian ,from Lachine

Hey Marius, ya muviae po polsku...ha ha, something like that:mfr_lol:

I had polish friends in school, they taught me the basics, and would supply some good cherry wine...

[Indigo]

Cherry wine is a must for survival :original:

[presone]

i'm another in montreal...its nice to see there are others thinking. im interested in helping to build some kind of community. so i just wanted you all to know im here too.

[Fred]

Hi, let's meet next week, i would say around thursday night (18 september) , in montreal or around, anyone knows someplace that we could talk quietly and safely?

Need some replies on this,

For the people that are not around montreal, we could always let you know what we had talked about.

First thing we need to make sur everyone is at the same level of information

(everyone must be awaken for this reunion to avoid losing (even though this is not losing time ) time to wake them up )

have a nice day all

Fred
(montreal/qc)
firend of Indigo btw

[kopenhagen]

I visit sometimes Montreal, I hope to meet some of you 1 day!

A bientot

[Jenn]

:original: Hello everyone! I am very very happy to have found you!
I am from Montreal but now live on the Gaspe Coast.
I have been searching for a group just like this.
Thanks to Michael St. Clair, here I am. What a blessing he is!!!
I sent an APB out to the Universe for guidance and in less then 24 hours, there he was, pretty incredible!
Before that I had seen his videos with Project Camelot, but never expected out of the blue this man would contact me.
I am very great full!!!
Imaculate, I have just sent you a message. I have been looking into land out here and trying to figure out where is the best area.
It has been hard for me to meet people because I am English but I am learning french, the kids are catching on quicker then I have.
I arrived here after I located my biological family, I was adopted.
It is a very strange story, but not for this board lol.
Has anyone looked into Earthships?

This one is in Ontario: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-az9HHfRY

I am going to have a look around the boards more and see what everyone else is up to.

PEACE! ~ Jenn :)

[HeidiLore]

I lived in Montreal for over a year, currently in Toronto, and intend on going back to Quebec. I am in ;)

[kopenhagen]

I lived in Montreal for over a year, currently in Toronto, and intend on going back to Quebec. I am in ;)

since you're still in Toronto, let's meet and see what's your take about the current events?

[HeidiLore]

since you're still in Toronto, let's meet and see what's your take about the current events?

Sounds good, I'm game. Will there be a local event?

[Chameleon Walker]

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty happy to see that few people are not sleeping in Quebec! I'm originally from Sept-Iles (Quebec) and I used to live in Montreal for years. Now I live in Southern California since 4 years.

People around here are freaking sleeping on the wheel. It's amazing to see how they don't care about anything that doesn't concern their little being immediately. If they don't act now they would be the first wave to fall...

I know that I'm a little away from Montreal and you guys but It still good to see that something is happening over there.

Je parle aussi français. Donc pour ceux qui veulent engager une conversation en français vous êtes les bienvenu!

A+

[argonacon]

hey everyone! I'm living in montreal right now.

I'm not really concerned with finding a place here though. i plan on going back to newfoundland very soon.

[Jenn]

Awwww, Newfoundland! Now thats the nicest place I have ever had the pleasure to visit! I would love to make another trip to the rock oneday.
:original:

[Bamboo]

I'm in Montreal too.
If it may be useful I am fluent in english, français, português, espanol
I have a house big enough to hold eventual meetings and am a good cook.
I always think better when my stomach is full...

[Cyberbird]

Hi, let's meet next week, i would say around thursday night (18 september) , in montreal or around, anyone knows someplace that we could talk quietly and safely?

Need some replies on this,

For the people that are not around montreal, we could always let you know what we had talked about.

First thing we need to make sur everyone is at the same level of information

(everyone must be awaken for this reunion to avoid losing (even though this is not losing time ) time to wake them up )

have a nice day all

Fred
(montreal/qc)
firend of Indigo btw

I'm in.

You can contact me with this email: gandalfoutrider@yahoo.fr

[imaculate]

Great group of people, good to see so many people going through life with both eyes wide and a mind that is open.

Sadly the North American Union is coming
WW3 is likely to come sooner or later as well ,Due to a unipolar view of the world clashing with reality.
Depopulation,the outright poisoning of your foods .
so many indications of bad intentions are converging in front of our eyes.


"My sense of Humanity has gone down the drain
every beautiful thing has seen some kind of pain
I don't see why I should even care
it's not dark yet but it's getting there"
Bob Dylan

"I've been down to the bottom of a world full of lies" Bob Dylan

have a good week friends

[Olam]

Hello everyone!........alright!, things are bursting on this thread and in the whole forum.
I have such a full day on the 18th, Im not sure i can make it. I will try and reshedule some stuff but Im not sure if I can. Anyhow, no problem if I can't, I just don't want to be out of the loop too long, so if I can't make it, it would be nice to have a little reumé of what has been discussed.

I have to go to work now, Ill come back here tonight as I always do!

On a side note, its difficult o keep up with the rythm here!.....at some point, I just have to log off to absorb all the info.
Cheers
Olam

[Bamboo]

Hi, let's meet next week, i would say around thursday night (18 september) , in montreal or around, anyone knows someplace that we could talk quietly and safely?

Need some replies on this,

For the people that are not around montreal, we could always let you know what we had talked about.

First thing we need to make sur everyone is at the same level of information

(everyone must be awaken for this reunion to avoid losing (even though this is not losing time ) time to wake them up )

have a nice day all

Fred
(montreal/qc)
firend of Indigo btw

Count me in. Contact me via this forum's message service. As I said before my house is available for a meeting.

[Fred]

All right thx alot,

i would like everyone to private message me for who whats to come, on next thursday (18sept)

thx alot for offering your house' ill let you know if its OK

take care all

see you soon :)

[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi all,

Glad to find there are so many in the Montreal area. I posted in the ground crew topic and just found this thread. I'm looking to form a radiant zone community in the Laurentians on 100+ acres.

As far as elevation is concern, it really depends on the scenario; the worse case is a pole shift, and all the ice caps melt. This will raise the sea level up by 200+ feet. Because of the warming factor, the ocean beds will also rise, giving a possible total sea level rise by 650+ feet.

Like someone mentioned, there isn't much time to waste. There's a lot of work to do to establish a self sufficient community, otherwise, it's more of a survival existence.

/Wayne

[NobleStag]

I'm awake here in Montreal too and will do all I can to be there on 9/18. Awesome finding you all.

[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi eXchanger,

You have nice energy. What are your plans? If you're open to join a community here, I'll be happy to show you around. I hope we'll be able to start a community in the Laurentians in the coming year.

/Wayne

[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi Bamboo, Fred

It's really nice of you to offer your house for meetings. Sounds good to me.

Fred, I'll in for the get together. Let us know where you decide to hold the mtg. I assume it'll be in the evening.

/Wayne

[presone]

im in..i wrote a pm to fred about the get together. nice to see you all

[Fred]

Hi i havent establish the place of the meeting, i need to find a quiet place where we could talk and not beeing disturbed by anything.

Any suggestion? (public places for the first time would be the best)
dont wanna be paranoid but just to make it safe

Also

I know this forum is about communities but for our meeting i would sugget that we just exchange about what we know and then maybe about the communities

also i would aslo like to suggest every one to right a few questions on paper so we could have our mind settle on questions we need the awnser.

Ill broadcast the information about the emplacement of the meeting by monday night

Plz PM(private message me ) to get in the meeting


See you soon

Fred
Montreal student

[Cyberbird]

Please, a place which is accessible by metro transport.

: ]

Oh yeah, by the way, if some doesn't know that site : http://www.mtl911truth.org/
They are very active.

The saga story of Marie-Claude Monpetit is fascinating. She has a blog: http://marie-claudemontpetit-blogofficiel.monblogue.branchez-vous.com/

[SilV3rLighT]

Wow ! I'm really glad that all you guys are here. I live on the south-shore of Montreal and awaken for a few years now. Just turned 21 last month. I agree that we should organize something so we can share thoughts and information between all of us. Love and light to all of you !

[astraelia]

Celestrial sightings
& the discovery of the Matawini Sacred Site

from Astraelia
Astraelia@gmail.com

Montreal Quebec
8 08 2008


I have been a contactee since 2007. It's a long story that is linked to my discovery of an ancient sacred site. This is my story, the story of the discovery of the sacred site of Matawini and it's link to spiritually advanced Celestrial civilisations and the prophecies of 2012.

BLUE KATCHINA CROP CIRCLE that appeared on the 24 oct 2007 :

I have been a contactee since last summer of 2007. I have had 3 sightings last summer, and subsequently, I had a crop circle appear in a circle of pine trees where I go meditate and do chamanic rituals of sacred singing and drumming. What is meaningfull I believe for the UFO researchers community, is that this crop circle appeared on the exact date of the explosion in size greater than the sun, of the Blue Katchina 17/P Holmes comet that occured the 24 october 2007. When I discovered the crop circle, I became white.... speechless, this place was like holy, there was like a radiance not of this world all over the pine circle area, like it had become a holy place... This crop circle had 2 sun shapes and another smoother circular shape that was slightly larger than the 2 sun like shapes. I believe the Hopi prophecies do mention the eventual occurence of 2 suns. I understand that many informed people around the world, are poundering the possibility that this most unusual stellar object and it's sudden expansion in size could indeed be the Blue Katchina, the last sign mentionned in the Hopi prophecies.

I am now sharing with the celestrial civilisations researchers community this information as this crop circle astronomical message and the date it appeared seems to be a confirmation from higher powers from above, that indeed this 17/P Holmes comet is the Blue Katchina Blue Star.

I have heard of other crop circles that have been in advance prophetic of the coming of the Blue Katchina, but this is the only one to my knowledge that has occured on the very same day of this event. My interpretation is that the larger of the 3 circles might represent the Blue Katchina that is now of a larger diameter than the sun. As for the 2 suns like circles, one might represent our sun, the other Nibiru. That is the best interpretation I can make of it at the moment.

ALLUSIONS TO A POTENTIAL RESCUE OPERATION:
Another meaningfull element that was associated whith this Blue Katchina Crop Circle, is that at the same time this crop circle appeared, about 500 pine cones I had gathered from the ground and used to make domes of about a hundred pine cones at the feet of 5 of the pines trees, have completely disappeared ...

The message I read in this symbolic mass abduction, seems to confirm in a symbolic way, the possibility of a rescue operation phase where the Celestrials would come and abduct to the safety of their craft and planet, those on Earth that are ready and willing to go on to another more spiritual phase of evolution.

If I take into account this Blue Katchina crop circle, plus the abduction of 500 symbolic humans, and the next mass UFO sighting I had that lasted 2 hours on the 4 of july 2008, where a clock like geometric representation was drawn in the sky by about 6 UFO's, indicating the 2012 countdown clock has now reached the last hour, and it is coming very fast ...

I f I take into accounts the informations that have been transmitted by the Tall Blonds extraterrestrials to Miriam Delicado, and that are explained in her book, all this combines to indicate that there may be events of a great magnitude that are imminent and that the Celestrial civilisations may play a role to rescue the humans that are spiritually advanced enough to be harboured and be given safe heaven in order to safegard the considerable amount of work it has taken to bring us to the level of evolution we are at now.

2 HOUR LONG MULTIPLE UFO SIGHTING & 2012 COUNTDOWN CLOCK:
On the 4 of july 08, an almost 2 hour long sighting occured after I played my chamanic drum outside. This sighting was different then the 3 preceding ones, in the aspect that the UFO's involved did not manifest with the very powerfull bright flashes I had seen in the 3 previous sightings. The intensity of the light pulsation was more attenuated, like more discrete and possibly higher up in altitude. This sighting had 3 phases. It started with a single UFO, that progressively crossed the sky from left to right, doing all kinds of movements and behaviors caracteristic of UFO's. Then, suddenly, there was a central episode that had the same characteristics as a mass sighting I remembered was described in the book of an important contactee from Vancouver, Miriam Delicado, who in her book Blue Star – fullfilling prophecy, tells the story of her firsthand contacts with the Tall Blondes extraterrestrials since her childhood.

This common sighting involved a geometric structure made of multiple UFO's positionned to create a half circle formation in the shape of a letter C in the sky ... The UFO's positionning themselves with absolute precision like a grid of dots following a perfect arc.

As it was occuring, I immediately remembered the C letter formed with dots, that was mentionned in this book, and likewise, there was a missing dot at the top, and I knew in advance what would happen... and it's exactly what happened, a UFO appeared in the geometric radius center of the C, and moved at a fantastic speed to go fill in the missing dot position at the very top of the C letter shape made of multiple UFO's. There must have been 6 UFO's minimum that were there in formation to create the C letter shape, one for every hour of the countdown clock.

My interpretation and understanding, is that it represents the Countdown Clock to 2012...
The half circle arc, represents the left side of a clock. The missing dot at the top is the 12 th. and last hour. So it signifies: We are now at the eleventh hour of the final countdown, and the 12 hour is now imminent... prepare... it may happen very fast ...

So Miriam Delicado, on the Canada west coast in Vancouver and me on the east coast in Montreal / Quebec, since this recent sighting that occured in Montreal the 4 of july 2008, we both have received the exact same message from our Celestrial star brothers.

The last tableau of this tryptique sighting, is that the original single UFO then become accompanied by a second UFO, and the two remained together flashing for almost half and hour in the same position.

Then, I decided to start to wave my hands to them in sign of joy, love and gratitude for their presence and goodwill towards us, and then the two UFO's started blinkink with more intensity and faster pulsations. I continued waving my two hands to them in great gestures so they could see me even from that far, and then, a third UFO appeared close to the original UFO. I felt more joy and happiness and continued to wave for about 10 minutes to the 3 UFO's, then, I see a forth UFO appear, a few minutes after a fifth one, I felt the more I waved at them, and the more joy I felt, the more they responded with their presence, then another one started blinking, then higher another, another one, all blinking so beautifully, so joyfully, it was a Celestial brotherhood between them and me, between the sky and earth.

At that point, there must have been around a dozen UFO's blinking ... I then realized that I had previously had some kind of spiritual vision of this mass UFO sighting when I was meditating at the sacred site of Matawini during the previous summer. And then I was there, seeing in the sky the true manifestation of this vision I had ... They were forming altogether, a circular constellation of UFO's, a sacred circle in the night sky...


THE DISCOVERY OF THE MATAWINI SACRED CAVE:
In 1957, at the age of 7 during the summer at my family cottage near a lake in the Laurentian mountains of Quebec, I had an extraordinairy mystical experience. I awoke in the afternoon, and I was like guided by a powerfull force to go out alone in the forest without mentionning nobody in my family, and without my yonger brother I was always with at this age. I felt called to go to a large pound I had just discovered a few days ago. When I got there, as I was inside the pound with my feet in the water, I had an encounter with a great Blue Heron that came from the sky and came down to levitate over my head with the bright sun rays bursting through it's wings. The great Blue Heron was levitating motionless like if time had come to a stand still. This meeting with the Blue Heron instantaneously induced in me a spiritual trance and at the age of seven, I experienced my first and one of the greatest mystical experience I had in my life. This was a very powerfull experience of discovering God's presence in the energy and the blasing fire of the sun and in everything in this world that was lighted by this all penetrating infinite power of radiating light. The living presence of the Great Spirit was completely breaking throught the veil of illusion who was for the time of this encounter completely lifted. This living radiant presence was breaking through with an undescribable energy inundating all with it's glory, power and bliss. And everything was one in the light of this living presence...
This meeting with the Blue Heron at the age of seven was my first initiation into the spiritual world for this life. The discovery of the sacred cave happened soon afterward that summer.


I discovered a Sacred Cave of great beauty and inspirational power, that I later found, is part of an important ancient sacred site. I also discovered in the cave, a large indian carpet in an almost intact state.

I was informed by an Indian that knew well the Elders here, as he was hearing my story, that there is a prophecy of the local Indian Elders that had prophesised that an important sacred site would be discovered in Quebec by a seven years old child, that it was awaited for.

At that time of my childhood, I was always with my younger brother. But on these two occasions, the meeting with the Great Blue Heron and the discovery of the Sacred Cave, I answered a powerfull call to go alone, sensing that I would make some mysterious discovery. I was attracted to these unknown locations by some mysterious force.

The first time I saw this cave as a child, I was awe struck by the beauty and powerfull spirituality that this natural site emanates. Even if I was only a child, it was absolutely clear to me that this was a nature's sacred cave, and that the native Indian tribes have felt exactly the same way as they contemplated it. I had a vision of an Indian tribe living nearby this site.

There are many archeological sacred sites around this Matawini mountain. There is a beautifull sacred cave, an indian carpet, a giant symmetrical cristal shaped stone as big as a house, were a spiritual light manifested to me and made me discover hidden stones that were under the earth that covered the area under 2 large vaults. 5 rock domes, a triangular wood plateform on the top of the mountain, stone tools, a fire vault, 4 large circles of stone, one almost 100 feet in diameter, with large fire places, indicating this might have been used as a meeting place of many indian tribes at the same time.

MEGALITHIC STONEHENGE LIKE ROCK CIRCLE ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN & MEGALITHIC GIANT ARROWHEADS LINE:
But the most out of the ordinairy, are the megalithic structures. (giant stones) There is a giant Stonehenge like circle of huge stones on the top of this Matawini mountain, which is something unique probably in the northen regions of America. Some of the stones are 12 feet high by 12 feet long and 6 feet wide and weight many tons.

I also discovered in 2008, at the base of the mountain, an alignement of giant arrowheads triangular stones. The first and smaller triangle is about 2 feet wide and must weight about 200 pounds, than 25 feet further there is another one twice that size, 25 feet further another one twice the size of the preceding one and so on always growing in size, for up to six or seven aligned triangular stones in total, with that last one about 12 feet long, 5 feet high and 6 feet wide and weigthing many tons. We know now with the researches in alternative archeology that almost all megalithic sites were not done by humans but by extraterrestrial civilisations of the far past that had established colonies on Earth. This sacred Indian site might have been used in later epochs by local indian tribes, but it is my undestanding that they inherited these megalithic structures from a preceeding civilisation that had the capacity to move stones that weight many tons on top of a mountain, and displace huge multi tons arrow head triangular stones from their point of discovery and align them in a progressive size order all pointing in the exact same direction in relation to the compas coordinates.

The sacred site of Matawini may be one of the most important sacred site ever discovered in North America, because of it's Stonehenge like megalithic structures. To my knowledge it may be the only megalithic site ever discovered in the Northen regions of North America.


THE ORIGIN OF MY EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONNECTION:
But, my whole involvement with extraterrestrial sightings came from another even stranger discovery I made at the Matawini lake where I discovered this sacred site, not far from our family cottage. (I will not mention the actual name of the lake to protect all these discoveries so I will call it Matawini lake)

It all started the last time I took a plane ride over Matawini lake. Suddenly, I saw something I never saw in my life, either in photographs or in any exploration or discovery program. I saw from the plane what seemed to me to be a meteor crater right on the top of a mountain. A very, very deep crater, completely vertical like if a meteor woud have come from a 90 degree vertical angle straight down. It was difficult to evaluate the depth from a fast moving plane, but judging from the relative size of the spruce trees, it could be from 300 to 800 feet deep, maybe even more, with a perfectly circular little lake at the bottom. The best way to describe the shape of this crater, is to imagine you are flying over a giant elongated trumpet that has been put on the vertical axis with the large opening on top, and you are looking straight down into it...
That is exacly the shape of this crater. So, for many years, I thought it was a non reported meteor crater I had discovered.

DISCOVERY OF CELESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:
Until some years later... when I eventually discovered the whole reality of the existence of celestrial civilisations, and I began to study this whole subject very seriously, and have now become to a certain degree a knowledgable person on the subject. I learned about the underground vitrified tunnel technology extraterrestrials used, and the very ancient underground bases that have been developped by them on our planet. Then I began to reconsider the origin of this crater. One aspect was appearing significant to me under this new light. This crater was positioned right in the central axis of this very large lake and this lake has a very rare triangular heart like symetrical geometry that is unique in the world. This lake could easely be seen and identified amongst the many thousand of very irregular shaped lakes that exist in the Laurentian area even from a high distance in space.

At the opposite end of this central axis where this crater is located, there is the position of the ancient megalithic sacred site I discovered at the age of seven.
That makes a lot of perfect geometry for a meteor crater ... The odds that a meteor would have strike at random with all this perfectly aligned geometry seems very slim to me. But, it would be a very convenient position in a visual geometric grid created by the unique geometric shape of this large lake, if someone would want to have an easely retracable position for an extraterrestrial underground base entry I thought!

Under this light, the megalithic structures of the Matawini sacred site seems to consolidate the possibility of the extraterrestrial origin of this crater and this very unusually deep vertical crater and it's perfect geometrical positionning seems to confirm the potential of extraterrestrial origin of the megalithic structures of the Matawini sacred site which are also possibly quite unique in the northen regions of America. This is also in some way confirmed by the indians I spoke to who told me it was not them that could have build such large stone structures, because they were nomadic tribes that travel lightly.

So, at this time I was having this whole reconsideration of this crater true nature, I read a story of someone who had tried sending telepathic messages to extraterrestrials and it did work. So, I decided to try it myself. I sent a clear telepathic image of this lake shape with the central axis position of the crater and the position of the sacred site at the opposite side of the axis, asking spiritually advanced extraterrestrials to go see this crater and check if it could be an ancient base entry that they might have forgotten about and see if they could use it again for their purpose.

And my friends, it did work, I had an answer !

Not long after I began sending these telephatic messages, one evening in the summer of 2007, as I was playing my chamanic drum and doing chamanic chanting outside on my patio in Montreal, I had my first UFO sighting !

A very powerfull bright flash, many times more powerfull than the stronger flashes that can be seen from aircrafts, doing all kinds of behaviors that no planes ever do. Being stationnary, changing the rythme of the pulsations, stopping, restarting, moving vertically, changing directions ect. ect. ( After this first sighting I began to study with a lot of attention for many mounths all the possible caracteristics and behaviors of plane lights and flashes and never did I saw anything that matches the behavior that occurs in these UFO sightings.)

There was a second sighthing over Montreal again as I was playing my chamanic drum and blowing in my conqshell outside, with these same very powerfull flashes and that time, at a point, I felt a beam of communication of energy of love coming from the UFO straight to my heart chakras. I could see the beam of spiritual energy linking the UFO and my chakras with love, and felt a very real spiritual connection with the source of this love.

UFO SIGHTING AT THE MANIWAKI INDIAN SPIRITUAL GATHERING:

Then, the first weekend of august 2007, I went to a great Indian spiritual gathering 400 miles up north of Montreal in Maniwaki, an indian reserve, to meet William Commanda a well known indian chief to inform him of the discovery of this sacred site. William Commanda have personaly met the great zulu chaman Credo, so I am convinced he is well initiated into the existence of extraterrestrial civilisations.

Before I traveled to Maniwaki, I had asked telephatically to the extraterrestrials, to give me a confirmation of the extraterrestrial nature of the crater and also to tell me if my discovery of the Matawini sacred site was related to this crater. The confirmation I asked them was to follow me 400 miles up north of Montreal to the Maniwaki spiritual gathering and to appear there as a confirmation of all this ...

And they were there at Maniwaki !!!
(How litteral a confirmation of my questions does this sighting represents?
Who knows? It could also be, that independantly of the meaning of these archeological discoveries, they just have decided to enter in relation with me because I have the skills and profile they consider for a good contactee, which is very fine with me also. I am at their service and at the service of the Light and that is clear for all involved, and it is an honor and a blessing for me, and I am very glad they are here.)

We are not alone anymore...we have friends... the Great Brotherhood of Light of the Celestrials is here. Thanks God ...

This sighting during the Maniwaki spiritual gathering happened after I had made the transmission of the sacred site publicly to the Elder William Commanda, and after I had the privilege to do some chamanic singing at this gathering. I was talking to a man that was facing me, then suddenly I see his face become white and he shouted at me and pointed the sky with his hand screaming LOOK! I turned around to look in the direction he was pointing, and there it was the same very powerfull bright flashes... I saw during the 2 first UFO sightings I had in Montreal. They are not just flashes, there is a very strong intense communication or communion that happen when these flashes appear. There is an immediacy of knowing that it is a UFO communicating with us. A kind of instantaneous certainty without a doubt that it is so, a true deeply felt spiritual communication.

( I discussed with this man afterward, and he told me he had never had any interest whatsoever in UFO's in his life, he did not even believe in UFO reality, and like me, he had the absolute certainty it was a UFO at the very first second the powerfull flashes appeared. I was very glad that someone else than me had seen and experienced this sighting, it comforted me in the authenticity and objectivity of these sightings.)




THE REVELATION OF THE ASTRAL STONE:

On a summer afternoon, I was coming back from a visit to
the Indian cave with my girlfriend. We often went there, to feel the peace and beauty that transpire from the indian cave, and climb to the top of the mountain and then climb on the huge 12 feet high rectangular rock that is on top of the mountain to meditate under the warm sunlight.

That day, just coming from the Indian cavern, we both have lived together a
most unusual spiritual experience.

We were walking back home, we were at a few hundred feets from
the indian cavern when we were both suddenly litterally STROKED BY
LIGHTNING... It was as if a spiritual thunderbolt of lightning stroke us with an incredibly powerfull force. I could see the ray of light coming from the sky and striking us and envelopping our body in an energy field. The strenght and suddenness of this spiritual energy had the same power as if it was a physical electrical lightning. So we understood this was serious stuff going on.

We were at once trown into another dimension and immediately at the moment the lightning strike occured, we saw very powerfull circular waves coming toward us in rapidly growing concentric circles, coming from a rare shaped spherical stone on the side of the road. These powerfull waves were passing through our body and continuing in space. It is like we had a 360 degree panorama vision, we were living all this but at the same time also looking at it from a perspective outside our body.

We instantly both became totally telepathic. We knew that the other was
living exacly the same unbelievable experience, we could litterally see throught one another mind, and feel the overwellming power pulsating from that stone. We seemed not to be seing the world with our visible eyes but throught our astral eyes. Even if we were in full daylight, everything seems to be like night time, like when you go in the Astral. All we could see was all these waves pulsating from the stone with great speed and power. All the scenery was distorted by the waves, the whole world seemed to be entirely focused on this stone emanating these powerfull circular waves, like one sees on the surface of mirror calm water when you throw a big stone in it and all the scenery that was mirroring itself in the calm surface becomes ondulated by the propagation of the wave of energy.

We were compelled to the deepest part of our mind, to served the will of the
stone who was in a living way and in no uncertain terms compelling us to
take it...

But we were two...
We both knew that we wanted this stone with all our will, we could see
telephatically this strong will to get this stone who was giving us such a
strange ride into some unknown universe. These were very tense moments as feet by feet we were approaching the stone and we were both hoping the other did not have the same experience as ourself, but we knew, because we could see telepathically into each other's mind perfectly clearly that this was a totally mutual spiritual experience that was occuring.

I got the stone first ....

Right at the very first second I had the stone in my hand, I knew immediately that it was meant for me, and what it meant to me ... It was a stone I was very acquainted with.. I had been holding it in my hands many times for long periods of time, when I was between 7 and 10 years old, in the Astral... in many out of the body experiences I had when I was a child... And based on these astral experiences as a child, I know also I had holded that stone in my hand in a previous incarnation and died and was buried with it. So this stone is a very old friend that was coming back to me in a way that can only be called miraculous. I have to say this, because I had walked on this road thousand of times since I was a child, and this stone was not there before... It's spherical shape is so outstanding for this region that it would have been taken immediately if it ever had been there before. We saw and notice the rare shape of this stone even from more than a hundred feet away as we walked toward it.

We didn't talked of this very strange spiritual experience right away, because we were too puzzled, and we needed some time to think it over and simply believe it
really happened. I had this black spherical stone with a rugged surface in my hands, as a proof of the reality of this very mysterious event.

A few days after, we talked about it and I wanted to know if this feeling of
having a totally merged mutual experience had actually occured to her also,
and she confirmed that we had actually both experienced exactly and totally
the same event.

Years after, every times we told this story to friends, having this
confirmation from one another helped us to assimilate the reality of such an
unbelievable event.

But the stone remained silent since. I was wondering why this stone wanted
so strongly to be taken, what was the purpose behind all this. It introduced
itself with such power, strenght and mastery. Why did it remained silent all
these years?

So recently I was reflecting on this matter with the stone in my hands,
looking at it, and to the words of a friend who is well acqainted with shamanic lore, who had told me to be watchfull of my dreams. I was aware of the difficulty for me to have dreams since I sometime have to take sleeping pills, and since many years, I almost never have dreams.

Then, I had some flash of intuition on the matter...
But I have to go back to my chilhood to explain the logic of this intuition.

Right at the moment of discovering the stone, one of the first thing that
came to my mind when I first holded the spherical stone in my hand, is that
it was like a piece of a puzzle about something that I only, knew about.


ASTRAL EXPERIENCES AS A CHILD
When I was a child, during a period between 7 and 10 years old, on about 12 occurences I found myself awaken in the astral.

Whenever I found myself in this astral plane I experienced complete physical paralysis. I had great difficulty getting out of this paralysis. Even all my will wouldn't succeed in breaking away from this. I often lay there many hours before I was able to finally get out of the astral plane. The best method I found to be able to come back and wake up in the normal world, was to try to go back to sleep and then wake up normally instead of in the astral.

One thing that was present in all these occurences of astral sleep paralysis, is that I was holding a mysterious SPHERICAL STONE with a rugged surface in my hands. I had also in my hands a strong physical sensation permeating from the stone I was holding. I could feel a power radiating from the stone that penetrated 6 inches inside my body. A strong impression of numbness in my hands due to the effect of the power coming from the stone remained with me for a prolonged period even after I woke up.

In the first occurences of these astral experiences, a strong sensation of death was all pervading. When I looked at myself from above, floating over my body, I did not see my normal child body, instead, I saw my skeleton under the earth, holding a spherical stone, like if I was dead. I could see my skull, and it did not appear to be a child skull, but the skull of a man.

It was clear that it was myself that I was seeing as dead holding the invisible spherical stone. I could even smell the very same particular strong scent of the black earth that is found at the sacred cave where the Indian carpet is located with a folding arrangement of 6 feet by 3 feet, the exact size of a grave…

One thing seems to be suggested from this astral vision of seeing myself dead and holding the spherical stone with a rugged surface. It may very well be referring to a previous life incarnation when I died holding this very stone I found near the cave during the 1980's. As only shamans have stones of power like that I quite probably have been a chaman in a previous life, that was using this stone as part of it's "Bundle" of ritual tools, and that died holding the stone in his hands, indicating the high value that was attributed to this stone. Yet even if I died with the stone in my hands, there remain an unsolved very strange mystery of physical transference, since I later found the stone suddenly appearing out of nothing throught a Lightning Strike spiritual experience, a feaw hundred feet from the sacred cave, centuries later…

This all seems to point quite clearly that I must have been one of the shamans in the lineage of the many shamans that have been in their lifetime the gardians of the sacred cave and mountain. I might have found my grave from a previous life incarnation, located under the Indian carpet at the sacred Cave...

Since I experienced these astral death over a dozen times during my childhood, it seems there is a very strong message that is wanting to pass on to me, so I don't forget these childhood astral death experiences that were really as you can imagine, quite difficult to live at the time for a young child. Like with my first mystical experience with the Blue Heron, I never talked of these astral death experiences to my parents, because I knew they could not help me on these matters that where way out of the boundaries of the culture we were living in.

This invisible stone I holded in the astral was quite a mystery to me at the time, and all my life. So when I holded for real the indian stone in my hand for the first time, I was immediately struck by the fact that it was exactly the same shape, size, and ruggedness sensation that I knew from the mysterious stone I was holding in this astral plane as a child... This mystery of the presence of this astral stone in my life was suddenly partially revealing itself...

So recently, I was looking at the stone in my hand, and I had an intuition:
"I will go to sleep with the stone in my hands, just like I experienced as
a child in out of body astral level, and maybe the stone will reveal it's
secret and manifest itself and help me in having dreams again, and maybe I
will learn something from these dreams..."

It did work, and what dreams did I have. I had 3 dreams, very chamanic in nature.

But the third dream, was like no dream I ever had before...
It was not a dream, but a mystical astral travel to a spiritual mystical dimension.

I went into a plane of existence that was filled with absolute bliss and
happiness. I went into a heavenly sphere in the astral ...

I was traveling inside immense domed architectures that seemed to be made
not of matter but of light. A light with an intelligence that was radiating from the inside. This heavenly world was filled with radiating light, happiness, blissfull intelligence and overwhelming beauty. It was reminiscent of the - Rainbow Bridge - mentionned in ancient Nordic lore. The immense arcs of living Light this dome heaven was made of, where constantly modulating their spectral color composition, and every color change was felt as a modulation in the extatic experience I was living. I felt I was in intimate communion with all this. This heavenly sphere was in intimate communication with my soul. A true telephatic communion existed between my soul and the bliss emanating from this heavenly world. Essentially similar to the contemplative happiness between the souls of two lovers... As I travelled inside these Heavenly Domes of light, I was overwelmingly touched by the beauty and extatic bliss that was being revealed to me, and this intelligence in the light somehow read my soul and revealed in an always overwelming manner that wich my soul aspired to.

Other events where shown to me, and where related to loved ones I will meet again after this life is over.

While I was in this rainbow domes heaven, I was contemplating the immensity of this panorama, and I was telling myself, it is so immense, it seems too huge for only one person, I can easely see ten of thousands of persons here, there would be plenty of room.

So I believe I am discovering at least one of the powers of this mysterious Indian stone. It is an astral dream stone. And this sacred stone is able to take one's soul to heaven...

The location where this spherical stone manifested with the spiritual light thunderbolt, have always puzzled me because it was on the side of the road, many hundred feet away from the sacred cave. The very great power that manifested throught this stone as it appeared also was a mystery in itself. It was like something really important, was involved. Now that I have become aware of the extraterrestrial agenda, and the possibility of a mass rescue operation, I now see the long hidden meaning of this location. It appears now to become quite significant in the whole context of this story. This location is right in front of an area, where there is now a very large circular cleared area in the forest, an area that could received the visitation of a large UFO, and where many hundreds could gather for a rescue operation that was alluded to with the symbolic abduction of 500 pine cones that occured on the day the Blue Katchina crop circle appeared, which is also the day the Blue Katchina / Holmes comet exploded in size larger than the sun, in our solar sytem.

THE MESSAGE FROM THE PAST:
Another element, that also quite clearly corroborate that the Matawini sacred site I discovered is related to some extent to extraterrestrials, in it's ancient origin, but also in it's future role. It is the message that was left for me to discovered on the first rock dome altar I found. Right on the central flat stone of this dome altar, there was a very geometric symetrical shaped stone. This geometric stone was left there on purpose seemingly, as a message that would be received centuries later when an intuitive chaman like me would rediscover it, and would have the foresight to interprete it. This stone had a unique geometrically symetric shape that is unquestionably very representative of a UFO ! That is a pretty strong confirmation message this sacred site is transmitting me.

THE MESSAGE FOR THE FUTURE:
Under the light of the informations transmitted by the Celestrial Tall Blondes to Miriam Delicado, all these elements converge with reasonnable consistency, to infer that the Matawini Sacred site I discovered at the age of seven, as prophesised by the local Indian Elders, with it's close by cleared circle area, located where the spherical stone appeared, do qualify as an ancient sacred site area where those that are spiritually ready and willing to leave Earth, may be gathered when the moment arrives for an emergency mass evacuation that would occur before the 2012 deadline. In all eventuality, I will need a confirmation from the concerned party –the extraterrestrials themselves- before I can give full credence to what is now at best my honest speculation.

All the pieces of the puzzle seems to fit together. The most important, in my personnal case, is that I seem to have the communication link, encouragement and cooperation from the Celestrials. Only time will tell what will happen. I know for sure, I'm going with them if they are willing to take me, and it seems to be the message they are giving me ...

( If other's than me are meant to be involved, this they have to decide for themselve, I cannot do it for them. What I know for sure is that it will take a lot of education for an average person to become acquainted with all the information it takes to understand the spiritual role Celestrial civilisations play towards humanity and this planet's future. I know it took me over 6 years of intensive dedicated study to achieve the understanding I have now. That may be a role I can play having acquired a fairly knowledgable level of expertise on this very complex subject, but it still needs to be proven that people are ready and courageous enough to make the efforts to learn the truth about what is going on in our world relatively to the extraterrestrial presence and the whole multiple convergence of events that potentially may happen around 2012.)

This rescue operation by the Celestrials, that would occur just before 2012, has been mentioned by many sources including the Dead Sea Scrolls, that states there will be a mass evacuation following the term of this century. It will happen in a short time. There will be some natural event of great magnitude on planet Earth right after the people of the Light have been removed from the Earth.

Based on Miriam Delicado's first hand information, this is what previously did happen at the end of the third age of this world. At the end of our age, as predicted by the Mayas and the Hopi and many others, the bearers of the Light will be given safe harbour on the planets inhabited by the extraterrestrials, until they can be sown again on Earth when it is propitious again for life. This will be the next Golden Age of spirituality of the fifth world we are all hoping for in our souls.

May the Great Spirit gives us courage, stamina and inspiration.
And may the Celestrials be blessed with our gratitude and respect.

Astraelia

[Cyberbird]

Beautiful.

[Fred]

Hi guys,

The place that we will choose for our meeting, will be downtown montreal, it will be a bar or a tavern (cant think of a public place that could take more then 10 people and beer do its all good) i dont know how many we will be there but more is better :) i have a few friends that are not posting on the forum, but they will come, feel free to invite ppl that are awake! dont want to waste time on people that are not believers. (for that meeting)
its will be around 19h30 on thursday the 18 of september.

Guidelines

- Meet ppl :) who are the rare that really know what is going on
(to be honest i feel alone sometimes)

- Make sure we are all on the same level,

- Put some faces on the new awaken Friends

- Find a way to awake more ppl

-Start making a plan


Take care all

See you soon

Fred
Montreal student!

[Olam]

Fred!, its great to see you are working hard on this meeting!
At first thought, I wanted to do this in private as I told you, but I understand that it might not be the way to go for a first meeting. So yes a public space is alright, I just hope its not too crowded with "regular folks"....like I mentioned before, its great to awaken as many people as possible, but its sure is not great to have long necks and people just attracted to the "circus".
Anyways, if we take the time to have a get together, might as well have as many people as possible that are concerned.
So yea, I will be available on the 18th, will check back here for details.

I was planning on having some kind of adgenda for the meet, but us folks are on the same page and things should flow pretty smoothly once we get it going.
Lastly, I want to thank Fred and freinds who are working to get this done, when i started this thread, i never thought I would receive that many contacts locally and even less have a meeting this early in the endevour, so this is awsome!
Cheers
Olam

[Savoyya]

Hi all, very nice to see more awakened people in Quebec! :wub2:

I live in Abitibi, so im quite far from Montreal. I hope you will forgive me for not showing at the meeting :bleh: Would have loved to be there though, maybe another time.

Im part of a group of awakened people (6-7 people atm) who have been planning to start a self sufficient community out in the countryside. Im the only one who can speak english so im talking on their behalf :original:
We plan to stay in Abitibi since our area is protected in so many levels (very far from any large city and lage body of water, highest altitude, waters separate here, so the pollution from other areas dont flow to here, etc etc).

We just started looking to find a land plot where we could start our project. We are facing some difficulties though (thats to be expected). With the current zoning regulations, its not possible to build more than one house on an agricultural zoned plot. Since we know other similar communities exist, they must have found a workaround. I would be interested to hear about it if someone can help us :original:

[Gnosis5]

I agree philosophically. I am here but I am aware of being more than my identity here. It seems important to discreate negative energy masses in my space and in the space of my loved ones and that is my only excuse for taking up space here. Otherwise, death has no sting.


Greetings,my message may sound wrong but necessary.

If my life here have to end there, so be it.Trying to run away is normal but, be aware my friend that your life will end if it is needed,from radiation or from a car accident driving away from danger.I give you all a hint since it is still free.I will not buy extra car battery but i will sit in the high grass.I will not build a new society for i builded love until the beginning.I will not judge other people choice for i always judge myself after a death.

[Steven]

Hi everyone. My name is Steven. I have so much to say, but i'll be short for the purpose of this thread to be respected. Since my childhood, I have visions. Not in dreams or while I meditate. Sudden vision that comes when Im quiet. We are forming a communauty with awakened people already. We are familly oriented with children, indeed, children are very, very, very important for those who will provide NOT RESCUE, but assistance. In one of my vision, the thought I received is that children are very important into a community, more then we can ever imagine. They are very potent, if I can put it this way. The younger they are the more potent they are for the focus of the community.

We do not need to be rescued, but only assited. In this, we are very serious. We use Handbook for the New Paradigm as guide and we stick to it. We focus on what we want and do not waste thought about what we fear. Even if we are all on earth transforming, we stay focus on creating the New Paradigm that our children will grow in.

All my blessing to you my sisters and brothers, namaste...

[fafi]

hi everone,
My name's Rafi ,very strange experiences started happening to me in the past 5 years i began to look for answers & it is what drove me here. needless to say is that now that i've found similar people who share part of a belief, i would certainly appreciate any type of exchange of further forms of knowledge.
i had begun a partenrship with someone a few months back only to find out that in reality not everybody has the ability to digest & to go on about their lives once they've awakened. Like on the matrix, not everybody has the ability to do it & even some that awake, begin wishing at some point they hadn't.
Whatever the outcome I would like to wish you all the most positive thoughts in achieving a positive goal.
One day it will all make sense.
peace & prosperity to you all.
Rafi

[Gnosis5]

Welcome, Rafi and thank you for bringing your enlightened self here.

[Fred]

Hi guys its fred!

hope you are all doing well on this rainy day

Listen i have made the reservation

It will be at 20h00 on thursday the 18th

I will not tell the place of the meeting here but we will meet before on the street near the place

Meeting will be at 19h45 at Crescent/Ste-Catherine street (montreal)

Metro Peel GREEN LINE (go out onto stanley street, go south turn right on st-catherine it will be aroun 4 or 5 corner look the link for exact spot)

Metro Lucien- Lallier ORANGE LINE (go north when you arrive at René-levesque street youll see Crescent street just got north until you get to st-cathering street)

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&saddr=Rue+Ste-Catherine+O&daddr=45.497176,-73.575375&hl=fr&geocode=Ff47tgIdk1Od-w%3B&mra=mi&mrsp=1,0&sz=16&sll=45.495639,-73.574538&sspn=0.007821,0.019312&ie=UTF8&z=16>

It will bee on the TROIS BRASSEUR corner (i would say south east corner)

Ill be wearing a Grey (verticaly black lined) Hoody, im 6,2 feet tall and i have black Hair and aslo my name is fred :)

Fred

514-217-1346

Plz, ppl who told me the were coming you need too, i had some arrangement to get us a quiest place, and i dont wanna look dumb infront of the manager


Later all

[Fred]

Hi Guys


Just making sure everyone Got this straight

SO

when: tomorow (18th september)

Where: on the street corner near the trois brasseur (crescent and ste-catherine street downtown montreal)
*the meeting will not be at the trois brasseur*

Why: Meet ppl that are awaken and establish something to be able to survive the eventual crysis

HOW?: :) a quiet place where we can take a beer and start knowing eeach other

What to do: Prepare yourself some questions, i have some questions for you guys because i need to know stuff

Also invite all the ppl that are awake that you know

And if you dont find me just give me a call 514-217-1346

Fred

(not alot of ppl are awake, we must be special in a way)

[SilV3rLighT]

Hi fred ! I'll be there see you guys tomorrow !!

[Olam]

Hello everyone!....yes, I will be there tomorrow. Fred, I really admire your leadership skills...thanks for all the energy put for this meeting. In my life right now, there is so much going on, I for sure would of not had the energy to put this together at this time.....so thanks alot for that.

Im looking forward to meeting you all and create new strong freindships in the spirit of getting ready to face the upcoming challenges.
Olam

[topsykret]

I just found the thread and...take knowledge that there will be a meeting tomorrow.Too fast for me to organize a trip to Montreal as i live in Ste-Agathe des monts...Next time i will be there.I think i can be usefull for all poeple interested in gardening ,composting,collecting wild mushrooms,wild edible plant.I'm not a master but can introduce people to the basic.

AL

[astraelia]

PHOTOS ALBUM of the MATAWINI SACRED SITE :

If you go in my profile, you can view a photo album of the different sacred sites that are found around the Matawini Mountain.

May the Great Spirit shine in our hearts.

Astraelia

[Ace of Hearts]

Hi everyone my name is Johnny I have just recently joined Project Avalon after being a big fan of project camelot for roughly a year or so. Bill & Kerry have done an amasing job in giving us this opportunity to be able to unite this big family. Together we can share our knowlege, experience and grow together as one. I truely believe this was their calling from above. Thanks Bill, Kerry.

I'm pretty excited to see we are quite a few awaken ones here in Quebec. By sometime next week i hope to have probably a few of my friends that will join our community as well.

I have read all the posts and see alot of you will be meeting tomorrow night, unfortunetly I can not make it tomorrow but I hope you guys will bring me up to date with the latest news.

[MisterPanda]

Hi all, panda here, just wanted to greet everyone :D

[Bamboo]

Bummer, I have food poisoning, taking Gravol so I can feel better for the meeting and won't spray my 'charming personality' all over you guys. In the unfortunate case I won't be able to make it tonight please tell me all about it tomorrow, I mean ALL, really.

Still hopeful

Bamboo

[MartyMcFailure]

i am a new york citier and what do u canadians think of takin in a refugee

[THE eXchanger]

We are here to create heaven on earth...
and, we are to laugh while doing it !!!
Welcome to PROJECT CAMELOT
(it was)(& still is)
"getting to the heart of what matters"
with PROJECT AVALON ...
(it is)
putting your heart into what matters !!!

I am Susan aka The eXchanger
(from ontario / but, i do love the "belle province" :wub2:

[Cyberbird]

Contact has been made.
It was a great reunion.


***
You're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not.

See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other.

Contact Movie
***

[Cyberbird]

The native indian face on google earth I was talking about...

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=dto3mB__0Io

[Jenn]

Here is a site for canada with properties and land for sale.
http://www.mls.ca

I check it often for the Quebec region. I have been noticing since last year prices going up in my area... yet its still very under populated.
I think because China has recently invested out here, water is busting from the ground, oil has been found, but a lot of it is Hush.
My family had lots of land taken away by the government because of the underground springs. They have pumps up on land my family still own.
Its a big story, long battle, all their lawyers were bought off and they lost the land. Land the Gov gave my grandfather because he was a prisoner of war for 6 years,,, in the end he died fighting to keep it and then they took it from my grandmother. I was also taken from my family, and it took me 25 years to be reunited with them. I believe it had something to do with the occult and experiments.
Anyhow.. I just thought to share the link because it has a lot of listings and seems to be the best tool for finding and compairing properties.
Peace! ~ Jenn

[Ace of Hearts]

Hey guys so how did the meeting go the other night?

What was the highlight of the evening?

How many of you were there?

Hi all just curious and anxious to get an update of what went on!


Johnny
---------------------:winksmiley02:
Because i-Care

[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi all,

To give a brief update on the mtg, there was a total of 10 people, including some guests. We started with a short meditation and the atmosphere quickly warm up to one of common interest and purpose. We each gave an introduction of ourselves, our background in the relevant subject matters, why the interest, when one was "awaken" to the present earth predicament, areas of skill, etc.

It was an informal and successful initial meeting. It lasted pass midnight until the Metro (subway) was close to closing. Tentatively set the next meeting to 2 week intervals; e-mails were exchanged for future contact.

/Wayne

[SilV3rLighT]

Unfortunately i said that I was going to be there but finaly something came up. We would have been 11 then .. I'll be able to make it whatever the reason in two weeks even if something come up I really want to be there because I missed the first one. I had a thought about you guys during that night so I'm glad everything went well. This week we should set another date .. and try to bring even more people than the first time.

Have a great weekend !

Seb

[Olam]

Hello everyone, just a little note to chime in and say how great the meeting was. I never thought that a meeting would happen so soon.
It gave me a great sens of power and good energy, I don't feel alone now with my "secrets"!
I will be there for the next one, maybe we could do theme nights, choose one subject and go thru all the info on it.
10 was a good managable number to start, I am anxious to see how we will organize if the count drastically grows......anyway, its all good.

Olam

[sunflower]

Hi et bonjour to everyone from Brossard. Good to see so many of you from our area. I have been trying to read as many posts as possible every day. Lots of valuable info here. Since the ice storm my husband and I have been gathering together a few things to make life easier when heat and power are not available. We really have no plans yet to relocate . We are very much involved in volunteer work and pretty well have sunk our roots into the community. That being said, we still believe in being prepared for whatever emergencies can come our way, i.e. we are in an earthquake zone I think. Can anyone give me some advice re the portable solar panels offered at Canadian Tire? We really don't know too much about this stuff and this is definitely
a good time to start! Thanks. Diane

[RobMtl007]

Greetings Everyone:

I'm from Montreal too.

I follow the videos of Project Camelot and find them amazing.

I missed your first meeting on September 18, but I would like to join you
on your next meeting.
When will the next meeting be?

I think by having meetings toegether we can further understand how our future will be shaped.
I also feel that we as a group can change our future for the betterment
of the younger generation.

Regards Robert

[clovince]

Hi all and everyone of you. I'm Vince.

I've been browsing on the Camelot Project since almost a year now and I think I must have seen 80% of all the interviews it has to offer yet.

I was hoping to meet people like you, people thirsty for the truth, but you are far better than what I had hoped for.

Just so you know, my mother is in a religion, one that I won't reveal here but that everyone knows about, and I've been experiencing it from 14 to 19 years old. I've had my fill of accepting somebody else's dogmas. What you guys seem to be is people looking for an understanding through observation and reasoning, not through the teachings of some auto-proclaimed-know-it-all-sacred-figure. I didn't come to this last meeting as I am somewhat stuck in this world's maelstrom, but I will sure come soon.

I hope you are what you seem to be...

V

[AquariusWitness]

Hi everyone,

I live in Quebec city during the week but I come back on week-ends to visit my family. I wasn't expecting a meeting so soon so I couldn't be there the first meeting. But I will try to be there for sure next meeting, I will make the trip. It could be great if it would be on thursday again, so I could take the friday off so I wouldn't have to make the trip back to Quebec.

Post the infos for the next meeting. I can't stress how important it is to form a community in these troubled times. And of course all of this start with knowing people, networking so to speak. In a group of like minded people, we are far more powerful than as isolated actor in the events to be played in the near future.

Best regards,

- Raphael

[bythisriver]

Man! The Quebec community is large! I just moved to Montreal out of Intuition and this may be why. I have been amazed at the awakened energy that is here right now! I got so excited when I saw what the first person on this thread quoted "the love that you withhold is the pain that you carry".

much love,

alex

[bythisriver]

When is the next meeting?


What is the new paradigm fundamentally about?

I believe it is about the raising of personal consciousness and realizing that who you really are is the timeless soul. That the quality of what that is (soul) animates ALL of us. Compassion and true love for each other and ourselves is motivated by that realization. Taping into that knowledge is the source for infinite creativity, which we can use to create an earth of love and peace.

[Fred]

Hi guys!

I feel so good since the last meeting, im trying to look for a place to do the second one,

The growing number of the people wanting to come is impressive :)

Makes me happy :original:

Ill see what i can do, and ill let you all know

Please keep this forum alive with all sorts of info and also dont keep looking on other post for information you get mostly everything you want :P


Take care guys

Fred
Montreal

[RobMtl007]

Hello Fred:

When your looking for a place to have the next meeting it would be great if the place would have free Wifi.
Invited guests can use their laptops or Mobile Internet devices to search for something that concerns the meeting.
In Montreal, the Ile Sans Fil network offers 150 hotspots with free Wifi.

Regards Robert



Hi guys!

I feel so good since the last meeting, im trying to look for a place to do the second one,

The growing number of the people wanting to come is impressive :)

Makes me happy :original:

Ill see what i can do, and ill let you all know

Please keep this forum alive with all sorts of info and also dont keep looking on other post for information you get mostly everything you want :P


Take care guys

Fred
Montreal

[Olam]

Rob, thats a great idea, have unlimited resources on the spot for reference !

[SilV3rLighT]

Guys we would need to assign people willing to organize the meeting and a point of rendez-vous like last time. I would do it but it's going to be easier for someone who actually lives in Montreal. Because i'm on the south-shore in Saint-Hubert. The economic meltdown is coming pretty fast so the ground crew needs to be up to date to help better.

We may need someone also to organize the topics of discussions, meditation or other healthy activity good for the mind that the person could teach the group.
That would be great .. see ya guys !!

Seb

[Deimos]

Hello everyone, let me just say that the energy here is really great. I have been following politics, economy, spiritual, Illuminati etc information (such as Project Camelot) for a long time now (I'm 28).

Glad to see that I'm not the only one awaken in our beautiful province. I truly believe that we must be prepared for all eventualities in the times coming ahead. I don't know what lies ahead but by looking at what's going on in our southern neighbor (USA), things look pretty grim to me.

I really wish I could meet people around Mtl that think alike. Let me know if you guys do another meeting, I'll be glad to join in! :original:

Je parles aussi francais alors pour toute discussion en francais vous êtes les bienvenus!

Peace.

[Adam Flow Nemo]

Its good to know fellow montrealers love the truth and are looking for it as I am... my respect to you all .....
Sorry I missed your meeting but I am looking forward to your next one..
If your stilll concerned about a power supply I have a few ideas I would like to share with you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7H9PayWdE
or a pulse motor very very easy to build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00OubltKORg
or even easier planet earth is a battery - this is a blog I posted a while ago but if you scroll half way down you will see a few diags on how to make earth batteries
http://blogs.myspace.com/adamflownemo

keep in touch
peace

[Adam Flow Nemo]

would like to add that anyone that gets there water supply from POINTE CLAIRE better stop drinking that poison they are putting a silicone based Sodium Silicofluoride (Na2SiF6) in the water that has never been tested on humans..
peace

[Olam]

Adam Flow, thanks for those great links. I bookmarked those and will check em out as soon as I can. Yea I was aware that they had fluoride in Point Clair, but did not know the details, thanks for that.

To everyone else, I am also anxious for another meeting....however I am so busy right now terminating certain phases of my life and starting new ones...I have not been very available latley, as all my energy is focused on me right now!!! :o

this should evolve pretty soon....

[Fred]

Meeting !!!


Salut tout le monde!
Hi everybody!

Ok 2 news

- First :thumbdown:

Sadly I have been really busy this week, school/exam/work/girlfriend etc...
I havent found the time to do a reservation for the next meeting for this week

-Second :trumpet:

I have found a local (semi private) up too 50 persons capacity, smoke allowed and also beer:P (also it's near PIX IX metro station)

I havent got all the information, but maybe we will have to pay a little fee to rent the room (MAX 5$ each) or if we manage to buy some beer we may have the room free . Ill give/get more info about that.

Next meeting should/will be on Wenesday October 8th at 19:00

From all the messages that i have received we should be around 20+ ppl
even ppl from quebec will come to see us

Cant wait to see you all guys

See you soon

Fred:lmfao:



Keep up the good work, try to awake ppl

[SilV3rLighT]

yeah everyones quite busy these days unfortunately ... but it should not make meetings happen less often, we need to set an objective of at least 1 meeting each 2 weeks. So we stay up to date with everyone and everything.

I don't mind about buying beer, but I don't want anybody getting a bit drunk. The purpose of these meetings are serious as you know ! Thanx Fred for taking initiatives in this I appreciate. You should contact me via Private Message for planning info if you need help.

[astraelia]

Project Avalon Forum

SORRY POSTPONED !! HELICO WONT COME WITH CLOUDED SKY !!


HELICOPTER EXPEDITION- Photos of possible extraterrestrial Crater

from Astraelia:

Hy everybody from the montreal / quebec area.

To all real life Indiana Jones

I am planning to rent an helicopter to take photos of a mysterious crater I discovered on top of a mountain the last time I took a plane ride at the Matawini lake. We would need to be 4 persons, (3 plus me)
at the same time, I would go photograph the megalitic stone circle on top of the Matawini mountain itself. This mysterious crater has many caracteristics that could make it qualify to be of extraterrestrial origin. It is also this crater that is at the origin of my 5 contacts sightings with extraterrestrials, so there might actually be some substance there. By taking the GPS location in the helico, I would be able to physically go there after, since there are some 4 weel trails in the area. This crater may be between 200 and 500 vertical feet deep if not more.

----------

The helico would be available in the next weekend sat 4 oct.
it is $50.00 per person. I offer the car ride from montreal up to the take off point of the helicopter, which is a sky station close to the area where the crater is located.

I would leave saturday the 4 oct at 10 in the morning.
I could pick up people at the TIM HORTON on Sherbrooke street on the south side,
just near the CADILLAC METRO station close to where I live.
The CADILLAC station is on SHERBROOKE est. pass the Olympic stadium,
pass Lacordaire st which becomes Dickson when it cross Sherbrooke.
It is a few streets EAST of LACORDAIRE / DICKSON.

If anybody can bring a GPS , a digital camera & a digital video camera that would be great because I only have a 35 mm camera.

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MEETING AT TIM HORTON / CADILLAC METRO - 10 AM SATURDAY 4 OCT
The best thing would be to meet at 10 am saturday at the Tim Horton
that is on the south side of sherbrooke street just outside of the CADILLAC metro station.

I will be wearing a white coat with chamanic designs on it.
We can wait till everybody is arrived around a coffee.
I have a Nissan Axxess dark green small van.
I can take 3 persons in my Van.

INVITATION TO THE MATAWINI SACRED SITE:
I suggest bringing good mountain shoes and dress appropriately and warm for an expedition because if the time is right after the helicopter tour, or the Helicopter does not fly because the weather is not appealing enough, we can go to the Sacred Site, that will be a great day any way. I invite you to your first chamanic chanting ceremony at the Sacred Cave. We can film over there, because I never had a chance yet to go there with a video camera.

Work Gloves would be usefull because there is always some clearing up of the paths to be done along the way every time we visit, so the next visit is more comfortable and we can enjoy the enchantement of this sacred site better with every visit.

(If there are more people that want to come, and if we have another car available, that would be fine too, because we could have 2 helicopter rides. This is marvelous to have a video camera. we can all share and contribute in the filming and photographing during the helicopter expedition.)

SECRECY CONDITIONS NECESSARY TO VISIT THE SACRED SITE:
( There is a very essential condition that have to be respected to be able to visit my sacred site: you must engage yourself to protect this sacred site by never revealing anything about the location of this site to anyone, except to say that it is in the Matawini region. Also, for many serious reason, this is not an open site, and it never will be, it is accessible only through my invitation and under my expert guidance. There are many pretty dangerous areas nearby, without my lifetime expertise of the area, it is easy to get lost and if one get lost there, it is wild forest for hundreds of miles ahead and it will be the last time of your life you get lost.)


Any Indiana Jones in the gang?

interested persons please contact me
Astraelia
astraelia@gmail.com


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[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi Astraelia,

Do you plan to have it in the morning or afternoon?

/Wayne

[astraelia]

HELICOPTER EXPEDITION - EXTRATERRESTRIAL CRATER

from astraelia:

I would leave saturday the 4 oct at 10 in the morning.
I could pick up people at the CADILLAC METRO station close to where I live.

If anybody can bring a GPS , a digital camera & a digital video camera that would be great because I only have a 35 mm camera.

[astraelia]

INSPIRING ANCIENT EGYPTIAN PRAYERS
from Astraelia


O RA

You God of Life, you Lord of Love,
All men live when you shine.

You are the crowned King of the Gods.
The goddess ISIS embraces you,
and enfolds you in all seasons.
Those who follow you sing to you with joy,
and they bow down their foreheads to the earth
In gratitude for your radiant blessings.

O RA, You the King of Truth, the Lord of Eternity,
The Prince of Everlastingness,
You Sovereign of all Gods,
You God of Life, you Creator of Eternity,
You Maker of Heaven.
All the Gods rejoice at your rising.

O RA, You giver of all life,
The Earth rejoice when it sees your golden rays
People who have been long dead
come forward with cries of joy
to behold your beauties every day.
You go forth each day over Heaven and Earth.

O RA God of Life, you Lord of Love,
All men live when you shine.

( Translation of the Hieroglyph prayer on the wall of the Egyptian tomb of
Shepenmut.
Prayers such as this were often carved on the walls of tombs and/or written
on papyrus to help bring good fortune and blessings in the journey of the
soul in the Afterlife. )

-----------------------

Hymn to ISIS
the Lady of Extasy
( from the Temple of Heru at Edfu )

All hail, jubilation to You, ISIS, O Golden One,
Sole ruler, Uraeus of the Supreme Lord Himself!
Mysterious One who gives birth to the divine entities,
Forms the animals, models them as She pleases, fashions men...

Luminous One who thrusts back the darkness,
who illuminates every human creature with your rays,
hail, Great One of many Names...

You from whom the Divine Entities come forth
You-Who-Cause us to breathe,
Daughter of Ra,
Daughter of the Word
whom He spat forth from His mouth

O Venerable Mother, You who subdues Your adversaries.
O You-Who-Knows-How-To-Make-Right-Use-of-the-Heart,
You who triumphs over Your enemies.

It is the Golden One...
the Lady of Extasy,
of Music, of Dance, of incense,
of the Crown, of Young Women,
Whom men acclaim because they love Her!

It is the Gold of the Divine Entities,
who comes forth at Her season,
the Day of the New Moon,
at the Festival of "She is Delivered"...

Heaven makes merry,
the earth is full of gladness,
the Castle of Heru rejoices.

[Jan44]

HELICOPTER EXPEDITION - EXTRATERRESTRIAL CRATER

from astraelia:

I would leave saturday the 4 oct at 10 in the morning.
I could pick up people at the CADILLAC METRO station close to where I live.

If anybody can bring a GPS , a digital camera & a digital video camera that would be great because I only have a 35 mm camera.

Great astraelia, thank you i got your email :wink2:,
pls count me in and i will bring digital camera.

hello to the forum i'm from the south shore of MTL,
just signed here now but was reading since the last 2 days

[NorthernSanctuary]

Astraelia, I'll go for the helicopter ride too. I've got a video camera if I can find it.

/Wayne

[astraelia]

-

[THE eXchanger]

can i telepath you from "serpent mounds"
and, "the petroglyph parks" ???

wow; if i didn't have the event, i have planned

i would be there

have fun

love
susan
the eXchanger

[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi Susan,

Sure, we can all make the connection, and get 2 events for the price of 1.

Have a nice time, and don't work too late.

Best Regards,
Wayne

[Olam]

Astaelia, Wayne and all, I wish you guys some great weather for the helicopter ride!....boy, wish I could go but I am booked solid everyday till next Wednsday....
I will contact people who were at the last meeting soon. I have to take care of other stuff before that.....like withdrawing my savings in my bank account today.
If you havenot heard, there might be a global freeze on banks/atms/credit cards starting Tuesday the 7th. I am taking no chances and getting my money today.
If you are getting a pay this week, you are lucky, all payroll systems are not going to work either. For how long, I have no idea.
I will definetly contact you all if this indeed goes down.
OK, gotta go now, see you all later,
Olam

[THE eXchanger]

Hi Susan,

Sure, we can all make the connection, and get 2 events for the price of 1.

Have a nice time, and don't work too late.

Best Regards,
Wayne
Great, this is absolutely fantastic...
it is a time to begin,
it will be an amaSing anchoring of energies
i have a very special stone
from a native grid, that was torn down in B.C.,
when "greedy" builders,
so, the energies of it, will be re-planted
back into the 9 serpent mounds
and, into the 900 sacred rocks in
The Petroglyphs Park,
and, it will be done,
today, we will all join those energies,
with the "good work" you all will be doing,
and, it will be amaSing, the seeds that will be planted.

With my father (tottering on the edge,
of passing from this life, to the neXt)
it has been quite a week

Great spirits tells me,
to go ahead with the big event planned,
and, he says, to do this,
as it is very important,
esp. this date 10/3 (13)
and, 10/3-2008=23/5
know, that this date was chosen for many reasons
it is a day, where we will anchor amaSing energies
by transporting the power of the past,
into the present, and, moving it through
the pivot of now

yes, what plans, a two for one ;)

it iS, what it iS

brightest blessings of energy, light and love to all

susan
the eXchanger

[NorthernSanctuary]

Astraeliais is very good with the meditation, sacre ceremonies. We'll connect our energies at the sacre site, so stay tuned to be energized.

Olam, hope the weather holds out. Should be good. I think the latest news on the bank freeze s that it is a hoax.

/Wayne

[astraelia]

THE AVALON FAMILY TREE
from Astraelia

May we all share in the joy
of the birth of the family of Avalon
Where like minded seekers of Truth
Can meet in the circle of brotherhood.

Like a first spark of fire in the bush
This fire will not stop growing
And soon will light the night
Like the dawn of a new day.

We were alone facing the unknown,
We are not alone anymore, we are a family,
And this can make a great difference.

It is the same with our beloved Celestrial brothers and sisters,
We are not alone anymore
Facing the unknow.
Now we know we are family
And this makes also a great difference.

It is true that all this is expanding the Horizon
of our sense of reality in an exponential way.
We are all learning on the way
to these new dimensions we are all discovering.

All we can do is to be honest truth seekers
and be faitfull to the Truth
wherever it's blinding Light leads.
And have faith in the great family tree
we all make together.

May we all send our eternal gratitude
to our noble friends and Spiritual Elders the Celestrials
for Lighting the way as we now await
to be reunited in their blessed arms.

Together we are a mountain of Light

It is time to break the dark spell
That made us believe we were
But the shadow of the montain
Cast on the ground

Together we are a mountain of Light


May the Great Spirit Light shine in our hearts.

Astraelia

[SilV3rLighT]

so everyone is ready for tomorrow. things are happening very fast, see just today we lost the Formula 1 Grand-Prix in Montreal.

[Bamboo]

hello all

I'm in Brazil for a month contacting friends and inviting them to this forum, so once again I won't be with u tomorrow, snif.
I just saw this video of Naomi Wolf oct 4th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

and the half past human web bot in rense today

http://www.youtube.com/results?uploa...ch_query=rense

very important

Bamboo

[THE eXchanger]

well; i got escorted up to The Serpent Mounds burial site
by 3 sets of 4 eagles, and, 1 lone eagle
(13 eagles) then, when going to The Petroglyphs, another 9 eagles showed up, in 3 sets of 3
and, then, when coming back down to the city,
another 1 eagle escorted us out to the highway,
and, we saw, 3 sets of 3, and, 1 more eagle
for a total of 33 eagles. (which was amazing)
going up; we also saw 5 swallows;
and, a big black dot of 10,000 swallows;
that split in 2, and, in 2, and, in 2 another
to where we saw 5 solo + 6 groups = 11
and, then, the 6 groups exploded like fireworks
then, i saw a field with 13 cows,
and, groups of 4 huge ravens, appeared,
over and over again...i also had one eagle drop a feather,
and, also one raven drop a feather, and, a friend gave me a macaw(?) feather -- it was quite interesting--
what occured ... how was the event in PQ ?
and, just prior to entering the park,
we saw 3 deer
love/susan
the eXchanger

[NorthernSanctuary]

You certainly got a lot of nature supporting you. Sounds like a very interesting trip; it must have been very invirgorating. That's the way I feel when I spend time with nature.

Our event got postponed because of the weather, so will have to wait and see... you seem to get a lot of birds to follow you. Maybe the the helicopter would have taken off if you were here. :original:

[Cyberbird]

Meeting !!!


Salut tout le monde!
Hi everybody!

Ok 2 news

- First :thumbdown:

Sadly I have been really busy this week, school/exam/work/girlfriend etc...
I havent found the time to do a reservation for the next meeting for this week

-Second :trumpet:

I have found a local (semi private) up too 50 persons capacity, smoke allowed and also beer:P (also it's near PIX IX metro station)

I havent got all the information, but maybe we will have to pay a little fee to rent the room (MAX 5$ each) or if we manage to buy some beer we may have the room free . Ill give/get more info about that.

Next meeting should/will be on Wenesday October 8th at 19:00

From all the messages that i have received we should be around 20+ ppl
even ppl from quebec will come to see us

Cant wait to see you all guys

See you soon

Fred:lmfao:



Keep up the good work, try to awake ppl


quote as a reminder

[Fred]

hi thx for the reminder but i had some in real life problems
(car, economy chrisis, and school is killing me, and the local)

All right, im realy sry but there will not be any meeting this week :tears:
(organised by me)

What if we look for next week instead?

Ill give some news on the forum again.

(and if you read closely my previous post said should/will :roftl:)

I know those reunion are really important if we wanna build a self suffisant community.I think there is alot to do on our own.

Education is most important. they are many Ebooks or just books talking about, plants, agriculture, meditation, and more. More we know seperatly more we will be stronger as a community.

Im still working on the local, because the other is not fully private.
(bamboo is your house still avalable?)

Anyone has an idea? (thx for the wifi post btw)

All right

Plz all take care.

Fred
(still sry for the meeting)

[NorthernSanctuary]

Hi all,

These face to face mtgs should not be meant as times to get work done. If we only did work when we meet, it would be too slow. The type of work needs to be identified, this we can do at a meeting or prepared for a mtg. Volunteers then need to come forward to form a team to work on it. Then the regular mtgs can be used to syn up, give status/ progress of the work, socialise a bit. To accomplish any work requires a certain amount of discipline, especially a volunteer organisation.

I myself would be interested in a group to look into the ZPE area. There's a lot of web data, but the challenge is to duplicated it for ourselves. Being able to have a fueless source of energy for power generation would really change the prospect of surviving any scenario.

/Wayne

[Bamboo]

Fred

My house is available but only when I'll be back from Brazil, November 4th.

As soon as I come back I'll contact you either via PM in this forum or directly by phone. Which do u prefer?

I can accommodate 10 people very comfortably or 20 a bit less, meaning some would have to sit on cushions or chairs instead of sofas. 25 would be the very maximum to be reasonably at ease.

Great! I'll be looking forward to come back into the freezing rain just for the pleasure of meeting u guys.

Bamboo

[Bamboo]

By the way, yes you may smoke in my house as long as it doesn't bother any of the participants present. But do not worry, I do have a area adjacent to the living room where it will be possible without bothering the non smokers and still watch what may be going on.

Hope this will calm some of you, I know it would calm me if it weren't my house.

Bamboo

[Hazzy]

Thanks for the offer mate I would love to be there in Gaspé or New-brunswick area.
By the way something of interrest is that New-bruswick gouvernment seems to be putting out good vibes by inviting people there to become self sufficient and are exploring ways to achieve it.

[Donald]

Hi guys,

I'm from Montreal too. Not originaly though. I moved here 2 weeks ago to be closer to my son.

I too started to work on some plan. I've started to collect douments from the internet (surival guide military style, how to dry food, how to make jerky beef, etc.).

I've also begun to write a document mainly intended for my family. I've been reading that paranormal stuff for well over 20 years now. So I'm quite familiar with all the theories going around. The document I'm writing is intended for those who did not read all that I've read. I guess you could call it "The end of times for dummies!" :)

I do not know how long we have left. Glad to see I'm not alone in Montreal.


___________________________
Love and light are powerfull. Be both.

[astraelia]

This text has been written as an overall introduction to the existence of Celestrial civilisations, intended for initiating newcomers in the field, with an emphasis on the spiritual aspect of the phenomenon. I give permission to use it for this purpose. (You are welcomed to further it to your friends list)

by Astraelia
astraelia@gmail.com

THE CELESTRIALS ARE HERE.

INTRODUCTION TO SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED
EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:


We are not alone in this Universe, we never were and we never will be.
This is the new Paradigm !

SOME VERY GOOD NEWS !
I have some really good news to share with you. And we are in need of good news in our time. This very good news is that we are not alone anymore in this Universe. There is help being offered to us to solve the energy and ecological problems our beautifull planet is facing. But, this help doesn’t come from here, it comes from many different human extraterrestrial civilisations that have come to visit our planet since the 1945 era, in hope of establishing open, peacefull official diplomatic contact with our Earth civilisation. They are still around at this very moment and this generous and priceless help is still being offered to us now !

But, you are being prevented to know about this.

Be ready for great discoveries. These civilisations are not only very advanced scientifically as you might expect, but also, very advanced on a spiritual level. They live in what we could call compare to us, higher spiritual dimensions of evolution, while at the same time living on one of the many thousands inhabitated planets that exist in our galaxy. These extraterrestrial civilisations have come in good faith visit us, to offer their help but also to give us a clear warning that we have mismanaged our planet resources and ecosystem to the point that we are putting the survival of mankind and of our planet itself in peril.

The Bad News, is that these Extraterrestrial Civilisations who for the immense majority are from the Light and are benevolent toward us, have been met with a total refusal of cooperation from those behind the scene global powers that covertly control our planet institutionnal network.

Another bad news is that the vast majority of the population on Earth does not even suspect the existence of this covert power mafia on Earth, that supercedes and is the real power that control behind the scene our political, economic, scientific, military & mass media institutions. It is this secret power structure that is maintaining a global blocus on all information on this subject, under the fabricated pretense of National Security, because they know it will be the end of their hidden seizure on the power centers of Earth, the day we will discover that there are great, benevolent and wise civilisations that are willing to start a brand new era of cooperative contact and exchange between earth humans and all other human civilisations that exist on other life bearing planets. This global information blocus on the very real existence of benevolent extraterrestrial civilisations has been put in place so the population is maintained in complete ignorance of these important and vital informations, and on all that have been developping in secret scientific and military joint ventures established with certains extraterrestrial races.

We can all agree that these matters can be considered as matters of great importance for humanity and for our planet. I believe we can also agree that any institution, secret or not, legal or not, that attempt to hide such important and vital opportunities from us, is creating us a very great prejudice and should be dealt with with expediency.

But how can you defend yourself against things that you don’t even suspect exist, things that are purposefully kept hidden from you ? This imposed secrecy insure that the population of Earth will have no idea that all the ecological and energy crisis we are in now, could have been completely avoided. We have had the opportunity offered to us around 1947 to freely make use of the same energy generation technology that is used all over the many extraterrestrial civilised worlds that exist. All the terrible devastation of Earth that occurred since, was purposefully perpetrated against our beloved planet by these power crased super elites that both owns the oil industries and covertly control all the major levers of political, scientific and military power. Do you begin to understand the vital importance of ending this blocus of secrecy.

By the way, do you want another real great news ? It is only because of the tireless monitoring and neutralising of our nuclear arsenal by the positive extraterrestrials, that we are still alive now. Because many attempts at launching nuclear wars on Earth have been aborted only by the Godsent intervention of the positive extraterrestrials who have on many occasions neutralise in time the electronic firing mecanism of the nuclear balistic missiles.

So are we talking about some great news !


THE END OF THE GREATEST SECRET ON EARTH !
We live in a time when every one that have a substancial understanding of what is really going on in this world behind the scene is expected to do what he can to inform others so they can have a true understanding of the facts and of what is coming toward us from here to 2012. This is my contribution,

To tell you the truth, this is not a simple task considering the complete void of information into which the general population have been artificially maintained concerning many important matters.

I can only do my best to try to simplify something that is not simple, and to try to resume matters that requires many years of dedicated study. So I will go to the essential. I only ask you to simply listen with an open mind because what I am going to say, is true, and is based on the testimony of many credible expert witnesses that had first hand knowledge of these matters during their carreer assignation to secret scientific and military ventures. It concerns matters that are of great importance for the future of humanity.


THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO’S EXISTENCE:
Most people manifest a sincere interest in the question of UFO's and believe in the common sense of the possibility of existence of extraterrestrial civilisations.

Actually, many polls have shown, that a substancial majority of the
population believe UFO are real, despite the silence and secrecy
maintained on the subject. Most like you probably don’t have any difficulty in believing that Earth humans may not be the only intelligent civilisation in this universe, and a majority believe that UFO are real and that our governments are hiding the truth about them and are mistaken in their belief that we are not able or ready to handle the truth!

But since the mass media and the scientific community are equally
silent on the subject, people have stricly no substancial information
that would unable them to develop their own informed judgment on the
subject.

In the actual situation, with the wall to wall truth embargo and
psychological warfare of ridicule strategy that is imposed to impede
any possibility of valuable information reaching the public, most
people who take their information from the mass media are left with an
absence of any cogent information, and have been maintained out of the
loop of what have been happening and developping in this domain far
from the scrutiny of the public.

Due to the global information embargo existing in the media on
anything related to this subject, most of our legitimate questions
remain for the most part unanswered.

I myself corresponded perfectly with this profile only a few years ago.
Even if I am a person of vast culture and multiple fiels of interests, I can honestly say that like everyone else I never never had been exposed to any serious substancial information on the sublect. I thought that this state of affair was due to the fact that no one actually knew anything about this subject period.


IT ALL STARTED AT ROSWELL:
Like everyone else the only thing I had vaguely heard about was the
famous 1947 Roswell case where a flying saucer supposedly had crashed, and bodies of extraterrestrials, some dead and possibly some still alive had been
found. In the newspapers of the epoch the army and the government
had indeed initially confirmed the authenticity of the event.

But, due to the obvious national security strategic importance of this paramont event, and the scientific importance of the technology that could be reverse
engineered from such an advanced interstellar craft, there followed rapidly a
**** of position of the army and the government. After having realised
the implications of an event of such magnitude, the US army classified
it as above top secret. They then developped a strategy of official
denial of this capture of an extraterrestrial vehicule and the whole
matter of UFO's where highly classified and known only to a selected
elite within the army and government, and within the circle of highly secret military operations of advanced scientfic nature. It is easy to understand that
this astonishing technological treasure could potentially push the US
army light years ahead of all other nations on Earth.

One reason why positive Celestrial civilisations are relatively discrete, is that the US military has now acquired advanced pulse beam weapons from the hightech transfer deal they signed with negative exter races, and that they now have the military capacitiy to shoot at positive Celestrial space crafts. The US military also possess high energy radars that they can lock on UFOs, and that produce perturbations in the magnetic field the UFOs use to travel, inducing them to loose control and crash, in order for the US military to access the very advanced technology of the extraterrestrials by reverse-engineering the technology recuperated from these crashed UFOs. So no wonder they are very carefull.


THE ERUDITE SIDE OF THE INTERNET:
But one day in my research on the internet, I was somehow quided to
discover some very serious web site on the subject:

www.disclosureproject.com
www.exopolitics.com
www.projectcamelot.org

What I discovered, no one on Earth suspect exist. The global
population on Earth is completely kept out of the loop of the
magnitude of what has developped in top secret ventures put in place
to study and reverse engineer this advance extraterrestrial technology.

From that day on, I knew that what I thought and everybody thought:
That no one knows anything on the subject. Is very, very far from
the truth, and I also found out why? Why we are made to believe this
and remain prisonners of this artificially imposed collective ignorance.

I could see that this was real serious stuff. And I believe every one
can see for himself the far reaching consequences, the revelation of
such reality may imply. Credible high ranking officials of the
scientific and the military that were part of secret scientific
programs dealing with UFO's and extraterrestrial civilisations from
other planets, where now reaching the age of their retreat, and where
ready to divulge what they had witness during their career while in
assignation within these secret ventures. These top ranking experts in
diverse fields were willing to make these divulgations because of the
paramount importance it represent for humanity to know that UFO's are
real and that there are advanced extraterrestrial civilisation that
are ready and willing to help humanity while at the same time
acknowledging that there are also some extraterrestrial races that are
power and control oriented just like our actual Earth elite and that
these negative one's have entered into a secret treaty to ally
themselves with our own Earth power elite institutionnal mafia in order to maintain and amplify this illigitimate secret seizure of power over our planet's destiny.

There is really a lot that has been going on in this field behind the convenient veil of secrecy. These expert witnesses that are courageous enough to talk, also want to see an end to the actual policy of secrecy that is maintained, because they are of the opinion that there are things of such importance for the whole future of humanity that we are not being told about that it far outweights all the other considerations that are used to justify the
truth embargo that is applied at the moment on this paramount subject.

Since this whole subject have been willfully treated with denial and
secrecy by the media and the elite scientific circles of our societies,
most do not dare discuss the subject ever, fearing understandably the stigmate of official ridicule that is used as a psychological deterrent strategy to hinder any attempt of divulgation.

Yet this is a very serious and certainly legitimate matter of concern
for all of us. After only a few hundred years of technical evolution,
we can all see that we are ourselves already interplanetary
travellers. What would it then be, for other intelligent civilisations
that might have had hundreds of thousand if not millions of years of
advanced technical and spiritual evolution?

It is not to difficult to foresee the magnitude of the historic implications of the public revelation of the existence of advanced extraterrestrial civilisation
currently orbiting and visiting our planet with a relative discretion

That is why, that behind the fabricated silence of official denial,
and the psychological war of reprobation and ridicule, you better
believe that all top levels insiders in the armed forces of our world
take the reality of extraterrestrial presence very, very seriously. It
is actually THE number one top secret military priority in all
countries, while at the same time a subterfuge of official denial and
secrecy is maintained as an official public policy.


THE GREAT MIRACLE CALLED THE INTERNET :
But for the first time in the history of humanity, there is now a
means to circumvene the official institutionnal censorship on this
subject and many other serious subjects.

This great miracle is called the Internet. The internet has become an
immense encyclopedia of the vast knowledge that has been acquired on
the subject from the revelations made by numerous high ranking
officials of the scientific and military reaching the age of retreat
from their active carreer.

The very first step to turning around this informational vacuum, may
be to become aware that the information now available on the internet
provides us with an important key to solving this overall mystery.
Some very competent and well informed experts and witnesses have taken
the initiative of breaking this bound of silence on the subject by
using the communication network provided by the Internet to circumvene the global information blackout maintained by the controlled mass media.

We have now a free internet, but that may not last forever, for the very reason that it has proven to be a serious and able vehicule to educate us on all these numerous subjects that are being willfully eluded by the highly controlled outlets of the pretend mass medias.

The problem is that the average person beginning in these matters,
once they have discovered that the internet provides very serious
alternative information, will rapidly also find out that the amount of
information on the subject, is immense and quite complex. A beginner
will easely get confused and would be unable to create for himself a
practical understanding enabling him to achieve some fair conclusions
and judgment on this important subject.

May you allow me to share with you some of the understanding you would
yourself achieve if you were ready or able to invest the thousands of
hours of research and reading on this unsuspectedly vast and important
subject.

This brief introduction can only attempt to provide an essential
positive overview of the known key issues partaining to these
understandably complex issues. I will also concentrate on the
positive and spiritual aspects of the phenomenon, the highly advanced
spiritual extraterrestrial civilisations that are on the side of the
Light and are trying to help humanity in the difficult situation we have been lead into.
There are many issues concerning the negative one's, many
competent studies available on the internet cover these matters in depth.

May you be advised that the truth requires it's equivalence in courage and hope.

UFOs ARE VERY REAL:
First thing first, UFO's are very, very real. They come from very
advanced civilisations from other planets in our galaxy, or other
galaxies, who possess highly advanced technologies as is easely
conceivable based on the incredible performances of their interstellar crafts.

What is important to know, is the reason they are here, who they are,
what are their intentions and mission, and what is going to happen in
the future of humanity on this Earth. Any normally intelligent person
is able to grasp the vast implications of a possibly nearby point of
our history, where open official interaction with extraterrestrial
civilisations will have occurred, forever changing the very course of
history, life and culture on our planet through the access to
highly evolved technology and wisdom.

What is not suspected about these ambassadors of the galactic
civilisations, is that they are not only advanced technologically, but
they are also highly advanced ethically and spiritually. Before being
a scientific phenomenon of great importance, this is before all, a
subject of spiritual nature of very great importance. It's just that we
on Earth have been successfully brainwashed to oppose science and
spirituality as mutually exclusive, when this is not the case elsewhere in other
inhabited planets that are not subdued by a dissimulated manipulative elite
like it is our case here.


THE SPIRITUAL DIMENSION OF CELESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:
And this is of a paramount importance. This hidden spiritual dimension
is one of the main reason that there is so much secrecy about them from
the part of the covert elite that controls the levers of power on our planet.

Because, if you haven't notice yet, it doesn't really seem to be the
good guys who are currently in control of the political, financial and
military institutions on Earth. But how could you really know, since
all the medias and all your available sources of informations are
silenced on all these important but well hidden matters.

Understandably, faced with this pervading global silence on this
issue, people are lead to think that there is very little reliable
information and answers available to our obvious questions arising on
the subject of extraterrestrial intelligences visiting our planet.

The truth is quite the opposite. Much is known and is to be said
indeed on this already very deep subject, revealing immensely
important new informations that will once received forever change the
notion we have of our world, our true potential and the true potential
of life. But, most important, is that we can now have a new confidence in the future, because we, the defenseless civil population of Earth, we are not alone anymore. We now know that we have powerfull allies that are sent here in this difficult mission in a spirit of service of the Creator of this Universe, offering their help and guidance in order to free humanity from the covert tyranny that have manipulated humanity into countless artificially created wars through history, and that is preparing another world war right at this very moment.

Not only much is already known about the many different extraterrestrial races,
and their respective agendas, but it has now become a field of
knowledge so substancial, that just having an overall practical grasp
of the subject has become quite a challenging endeavour. So let me
attempt to initiate you to the essence of the matter, and you can
judge for yourself if this is an important and key central issue of
our time, worth your time and consideration.


SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED CELESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:
One of the first secret that should be clarified, is that these
civilisations are not only advanced technologically, but also
spiritually, and that the immense majority of these civilisations are
of the Light and are benevolent toward us. The scare campaings
undertaken by the negative portrayal of extraterrestrials,
consistently presented by the Hollywood film industry, is a campaing
to attempt to hide this quite important fact.

An important aspect to recognize, is that they are not only
extraterrestrial beings, but also interdimensionnal beings and so are
their crafts. They come from what we would conceive as higher
spiritual dimensions, as far as their spiritual level is involved, while at the same time being embedded into physical bodies like us. They come from planets in this universe from our galaxy and also other galaxies. Some even come from the future in an attempt to help us avoid serious problems that may occur around 2012, because they master time travel technology also, I know this seems fantastic for our very primitive earthly scientific minds, but this is true.

Many of them are humanoids very similar to us. The human form is quite common throught the numerous life bearing planets like ours. ( The Pleiadians, the Andromedans, Nordic Arians, Arcturians.)

These advanced civilisations are comparable in degree of evolution and wisdom, to what we know on earth as Boudhas, Great Spiritual Teachers. Try to imagine a whole civilisation composed of beings sharing this degree of evolution, for hundreds of thousands or millions of years! In fact, it may very well be that some of the great spiritual figures that have appeared on earth in the past may have simply be such extraterrestrials that had accepted to come to assist earth in it's spiritual evolution. It is possible for the very reason that they are civilisations that have achieved this level of spiritual evolution, and that they have themselves alluded to this being true. Great beings like that is the norm in their societies, as it is the exception in ours. We will all eventually evolve to this level of mastery and spirituality if we are ever able to free ourself from the occult boundage imposed by our destructive power elite.

OUR EMERGENCE TO GALACTIC CITISENSHIP:
Likewise on a planetary scale of history, in the path of evolution of any planet, there comes a time when the indigenous civilisations of a planet are made aware of the reality of existence of more advanced civilisations from other planets. After an initial cultural chock that is predictable, comes a new era of fruitfull exchanges. We are part of an extended family that has been purposefully hidden from us all throught our history and culture until now. This is our inheritance and we have a right to know about it.

We are not alone in this Universe, we never were and we never will be.
This is the new Paradigm that will be revealed to everyone around 2012 !


ANGELS OR SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED EXTRATERRESTRIALS:
We have had in the far past of our history, before the actual cycle
of civilisation our official hystory present us, a fair number of occurences
of interactions with these high spiritual beings. But, the rare times
that these occurences have been mentioned in our historical or
religious traditions, their existence was always been refered to us
throught a substancially correct, but very incomplete and therefore
somehow misleading notion, the notion of Angels.

This notion of Angels acting as spiritual gardians sent by the Creator
to assist, inspire and guide us, have always find a previleged place
in our heart, even if few of us have ever seen one themselves.
Angels were described as Heavenly Light Beings of a great
spiritual might and wisdom, who come from higher celestial spheres,
and that were able to communicate with humans by appearing to us in
what is often described in paintings as a radiant halo of spiritual
light and power. Those outworldly beings refered to as angels, are,
so we are told non-physical beings, they come from higher spiritual
dimensions, are of a purely spiritual nature and have no physical
bodies like us and don't need any vehicules to come in our
dimensions, they just fly in with what is shown in paintings to be
wings. This is what we are familiar with, and is about all we know of
the subject.

Again, that may very well describe acurately Angels and all this may
perfectly be true. But what is new and important for us and
our future, is that these notions, qualities and potentialities, also
happen to describe with bewildering similarity the essence of what
extraterrestrial beings coming here in UFO's are, and what their role
and purpose is toward humanity !


UFO’S COME FROM HIGHER SPIRITUAL DIMENSIONS:
What is nevertheless quite new in this old story, is that these
spiritual beings we are told are Angels, might also actually be
endowed of physicality like us even if their physicality might be at
a higher vibrationnal frequency level. They are technically able to adjust
and manifest on our Earth vibrational frequency and dimension that we call
physicality. Instead of being able to just fly in like our religious fairy tales would have us believe, they actually require insterstellar and interdimensional vehicules that we know of and refer to as being UFO's.

The great secret of UFO's is that there is a major spiritual dimension
to it. The great secret about extraterrestrial advanced civilisations,
is that the purpose of their presence and of their role toward us is
essentially the one we have attributed to what we have been teached to
call and believe to be Angels.

The ancient story that is related in all ancient cultures about a great war that happened between Angels of the Light and Angels of the Darkness, also exist in the ancient hystory of all Extraterrestrial races.

Except that the extraterrestrials know something about this story that we don’t ! Because they have lived it first hand and they were the actual actors of this story. This ancient war that have been turn into a angel fairy tale in our own Earth record, was a war between extraterrestrial forces on the side of the Light against a very negative predatory intruder extraterrestrial civilisation in our Universe. And this war was fought using UFO’s and advanced pulse beam weapons, it was not fought using swords and wings to fly around.

So you see that all these elements add up to a lot more than mere resemblances or coincidences. Whether by ignorance or manipulation, our ancestors have been lead to believe Angels where spiritual only beings. But we are now entering a time where the truth is becoming apparent and clear because we have access to serious and well documented alternative sources of information available on the erudite side of the Internet.

So when there may very well be stricly spiritual angels that have
interacted with humanity throught history, it is also true, that real
physical extraterrestrial beings coming from other planets, have
interacted with humanity in the far past, but have been always
purposefully been assimilated or made believe to be angels of a non
physical nature. This assimilation has been easy to establish and
maintain, because they both displayed altogether similar qualities of
being Light bearers, highly spiritual, endowed with great wisdom and
have accepted to play a role of custodial gardians of humanity,
bestowed to them by the Prime Creator.

So, the Creator in his great bountifull generosity and mercy, have
given us not only the gracefull and blessed protection of spiritual
only angels, but also, that of highly evolved ethical spiritual beings
that possess full physicality like us, and that unlike their purely
spiritual conterparts, are technically equipped to manifest and
intervene on the same frequency level as our third dimension physical
universe.

You can all see easely by yourself, what a great difference these
qualifications makes.

Some like spiritual only angels can intervene only in wishes, and can only
wish they could intervene.

But others, as in the case of these technologically and
spiritually advanced Celestrial civilisations, can actually materialise at
will in our own dimensionnal frequency and intervene with great
military might if so asked by the Prime Creator that they serve out of
pure love for him and all his creation.

It seems obvious that many in our so called governing institutions,
seem to wish that these positive exter civilisations did not come mingle
in the affairs of Earth, because they know they have the power and full
capability to intervene a lot more than just in wishes.

A NEW CIVILISATION ON EARTH:
There is a new civilisation arising now on Earth. Hundreds of millions of people around the world who knows what is going on behind the fabricated surface of the mass media and politically correct official censorship, because they are taking their source of information from very serious studies and documentation available on very serious sites that are now present on the internet. This is the real reason they want to take control and censor the internet. Because the truth is all up there available for free.

There is a new civilisation of those who know and understand the truth, and don’t believe anymore in the fairy tales our manipulated religions and mass medias have used to dumb us down.

That is the situation for NOW, but it is rapidly changing, and wether
you are ready or not, great things are in incubation, that will
forever change the actual paradigm of isolation of earth humanity from
knowing the truth about the existence of friendly advanced
extraterrestrial civilisations from other inhabited planetary systems.

We have been and are currently being manipulated into not knowing the
true reality and structure of the make up of our Universe and the
great highly evolved spiritual civilisations that inhabit it.

These are highly ethical civilisations, and their technology is not
only very advance, it is also holistic, respectfull and one with the
spiritual dimension of life. Everything in their civilisation is in
line with the spirit of the Prime Creator. They are the bearers of
it's Light and the ambassadors of it's presence.
They are part of the Great Brotherhood of Light
and the Spiritual Hierachy.

And this is what is being hidden from all of us. This is the paramount
importance and substance of what is being hidden from us.
This is the hope that is being hidden from us!

Because some of them have been given gardianship duties concerning the
evolution of our emerging Earth civilisation, these Celestrial beings know
well our hidden ancient history, and the history of the manipulation
of our civilisation by the elite that have attained seizure of
the levers of governance of our social institutions.

We are now approaching the non-return point where Earth civilisation
will openly discover the nature and existence of extraterrestrial
ethical civilisations.

THE MISSING LINK IN OUR HISTORY IS EXTRATERRESTRIAL:
But this is not all we will discover. We will eventually discover that they are
also our family. They are our cosmic and genetic ancestors, the archaic genetic fathers of the different races existing on Earth.

Contrarely to the evolution theory of man descending directly from the ape we have been made to believe, the missing link in our evolution that we have always looked for in our planet, this missing link is not to be found here, but is
extraterrestrial in origin. Humanking descend from an hybrid genetic
encounter between early earth man and about 21 different advanced
extraterrestrial races that have come here in a far past of our
history that has been completely erased from all our recordings.
This is why there is still today 21 different racial types on Earth.

So we are all from the stars, nobody is really strictly speaking from
here. We are ourselves partly extraterrestrials, and extraterrestrials
are partly us. We are brothers. We are family. We are all One !

We will also eventually discover that these elder brothers and
fathers of humanity are also on a spiritual level, our protectors and
have been given by the spiritual hierarchy, a role of Watchers of
earth civilisation evolution. They are the Angels we have believe existed and assumed this very role. It is they who deserve our gratefullness for this selfless mission they have accepted.

All through our history, this extraterrestrial reality has always been
purposefully hidden and purposefully presented as spiritual only
realities and beings. There has been many time periods in the far
past, where exter civilisations were predominantly present in the
affairs of our world. Some of these periods goes as far back as 100 of
million years ago, others around 450.000 years ago,and more recently
before the great flood that happened around 20,000 years ago. Actually
the ancient civilisations we know as Atlantis and Lemuria were part of an
extraterrestrial colonisation era in our planet history, before humanity existed. Many major archeological discoveries have been made that prooves beyond doubt the existence of this pre homo-sapiens extraterrestrial civilisation that existed before the actual cycle of civilisation proposed by official history, but these discoveries are kept under great secrecy, or destroyed on purpose, so the population of Earth never enlighten to the extraterrestrial dimension existing in the tread of Earth ancient history.



THE RETURN OF THE CELESTRIALS TO EARTH:

The return of interest into the affairs of Earth from the part of
positive extraterrestrial civilisations is attribuable to a very specific
occurence: the first explosions of nuclear weapons on this planet
around 1945. Nuclear weapons are a totally forbidden technology all over this
universe, because of their obvious long term extreme ecological
danger, but also because of other serious perturbations they create into the
other dimensions of the universe structure, including the space-time continuum that UFOs use to come here in the vincinity of Earth. In other words, this problem of nuclear weapons has now become more than our problem. it has become also their problem. So THEY
have decide to intervene and let us know their very profond disagreement and concern upon this matter.

There are numerous secret military reports of extraterrestrial crafts that have demonstrated their technical capacity to neutralise the electronic launching equipment of nuclear balistic missiles. Hundreds of UFOs have been sighted hovering over missile bases, monitoring and demonstrating their presence and letting our military know that they can disable the electronic firing mecanism of the missiles. UFOs have even changed the secret codes used for firing these missiles, so that they cannot be launched. There have been in the last 50 years, more than one occasion where an actual nuclear war have been stop only by the intervention of UFOs. You understand that these military interventions from our extraterrestrial brothers clearly state on which side they are, who they are, and what is their misssion.

Because of the very negative dynamic our emerging planet is
generating, under the hegemony of the dark forces that are currently
covertly ruling our societies, Earth has now been put in a global
quarrantine, put under isolated surveillance by a military blocus because of
the potential danger we represent for the future to the other galactic
civilisations, who understand that a civilisation like ours who
doesn't know it is being manipulated by powerfull dark forces, can
eventually become a treath to all the other advanced civilisations
because they see we are approaching the time where we will have the
technical capacity to access interstellar travel and that we may
export our extremely dangerous nuclear arsenal and our dangerously
primitive and irresponsible aggressive behavior that has been
programmed into us by the Dark Side manipulators of our very primitive so called modern civilisation.

The nuclear bomb military capacities we have represent
an extremely dangerous equation for all these advanced civilisations,
who like our Native American Indians, consider themselves as gardians
and keepers of the sacred gift of Nature the Prime Creator has
entrusted into all of us.


THERE IS NOT A CONSPIRATION OF SILENCE, THERE IS TWO:
Another big problem with entering the field of extraterrestrial civilisations,
Is that it is close to impossible to reveal any substancial truth about
the extraterrestrial reality without having to deal with another
hidden truth that is also at the center of all this. The existence of a
paramount manipulation that exist here on earth from the part of a mafia
type secret Zionist network that does not at all have the best interest of
humanity at heart. This manipulative Earth elite that is often refered to as the Illuminati secret society, the Free Masons, The New World Order, is actually a very ancient order, but it is now reaching a critical stage in their plan of global infiltration and takeover of world governance institutions.

This manipulative Elite has infiltrated and corrupted from the inside, all our key political institutions and communication networks. Through history, they have cleverly manipulated the inner content of all the great institutionnal religions, achieved censorship over the content of education in key domains like history, ancient pre-homo sapiens archeology, electromagnetic science, free energy generation devices. This stealth manipulation strategy has successfully implanted within our very belief system the seeds of their hidden plan of domination over us and over our minds. So it takes quite an amount of courage, maturity and intellectual stamina to deal with all these deep issues, this is no kid stuff. It shatters all existing paradigms on which our concept of society is based.


THE WAY THE SECRET MANIPULATION OPERATES:
Let me explain in a few words the way this secret manipulation operates. There is a secretive network consisting of a series of interlocked secret societies that acts as incubators of nominees, persons who will eventually be named to important posts in our society. These secret or semi secret organisations use their leverage to position it’s agents in all key upper level decisionnal position of the pyramidal structure of our society. By controlling the upper echelon of the many pyramidal structures that our society is made off, with a relatively small number of individuals, this conspiration is able to achieve a systemic overall ascendancy over all the fields of development of our societies, steering events and decisions in the direction their World Dominion takeover plan requires, in a manner that is independent and in complete opposition to the legitimate needs of the population.

The inner core of this manipulation of our societal institutions, is a century old cartel of international bankers who actually own and control all the central banks in all countries, like for instance the Federal Reserve of the USA, while at the same time maintaining the false belief that these central banks are independent and owned by the diverse respective countries they are in. They thereby possess the power of issuance of the money supply that they than lent back to the government with interests added to it. By secretly controlling both the flow of money supply and the interest rate, they have the ability to manufacture with scientific precision all the great financial crash we have known in history, including the one that is happening at this very moment, or the great inflationnary crisis that many countries have been subjected to. In all these crashes, since they always have full knowledge of what will be their next move, they are able to gain immense fortunes that are channeled to their banking network while the rest of the world painfully looses all their fortune. This is the greatest fraud of all times. But this is only the beginning of the story.

Through secret services agencies of which they control some black operation factions, they have the latitude to completely engineer behind the scenes fabricated false attacks like 9/11. Using these false attack to blame an innocent party, they bully their way ahead by using this manufactured pretext to declare a war, while at the same time using this war to take over important oil fiels or natural resources that will be captured in the process. By blackmailing politicians by treats of stopping the flow of their electoral financing, they are in position to buy the politicians of both parties into supporting legislations that provoque these totally artificial wars like the Irak war. Through their ownership of all the major mass media outlets they have total control of the mind of the populace who is never exposed to any of the behind the scene workings of this conspiration to implement this contrived war scam. The ensuing war declaration then consequently force the government to take huge loans in the private internationnal banks of this international war mafia. These loans are issued at unending long term compounded interest rates to finance these wars. Through their ownership of the major armement industries, they make multi billions profits at every war they manufacture. And to end the scam, throught their ownership of the major construction companies, they make an other round of faraminous profit by securing for themselves the reconstruction contracts to rebuild at great expenses the destruction they have created with total impunity. The hundred of millions of individuals killed in these money grab wars are just irrelevant collateral dammages to them. These are the people who truly rules our world. We are ruled by a Zionist secret mafia of serial genocide perpetrators.

UFO FALSE ATTACK OPERATION PLANS:
Be warned that there is a secret plan to proceed with an artificially fabricated false UFO attack. This covert military operation would simulate an attack using ultra secret Earth built magnetic levitation vehicules very similar to the real extraterrestrial ones. The objective of this falsified UFO attack is to terrorise the Earth population in making them believe that all extraterrestrials are our ennemies, when the truth is that it is the Zionist secret Cabal that is actually behind these false attacks, and that they are hiding the fact that it is they, the Zionist secret Cabal that is the major number one ennemy of Earth humanity, and that it is this dark Cabal that have treasonously sold out our planet to created an alliance with the few negative extraterrestrial races that exist amongst the thousands of positive one. As the saying goes, with friends like that, nobody need ennemies. What else would you expect from an old established war profiteering mafia.

This scenario is essentially similar to the way the Zionist secret cabal have successfully orchestrated 9/11 that was a covert secret military operation where the 2 World Trade Center Towers and tower 7 were demolished by pre-positioned industrial demolition hightech explosives, put into place by the Jewish secret service the Mossad, and the secret intelligence service of the US military. The Pentagon was hit not by a civil plane but by a US military missile, all in order to create an artificial fabricated justification to start another major war. All the major wars, financial crisis and pseudo-revolutions in our Earth history since thousands of years have been artificially created and staged managed in such manner by these same behind the scene manipulators.

This intended man made false UFO attack operation would simulate an attack from extraterrestrial UFO's using Earth-built magnetic levitation vehicules and pulse beam weapons technology acquired by the extraterrestrial technology transfer agreement the Cabal has made with the 3 negative exter races. The objective is to confuse humanity and induce us into error, so humanity does not discover that the immense majority of extraterrestrial races are benevolent and friendly towards us, and that they are coming here amongst other reasons, to protect us against the dark plans of this corrupt Zionist elite mafia. In front of this huge military-media-industrial cartel, we as civilians are totally defenseless. The Cabal will than use this fabricated false extraterrestrial attack perpetrated by their own earthly secret service, to scare humanity into accepting their New World Order military dictature under the pretext that this new global world treath requires a new Global World Governement response military capacity. This is serious stuff my friends.


OPEN DISCLOSURE PLANS BY THE POSITIVE CELESTRIALS:
Know that if Celestrial civilisations were hostile to us, they could have invades us very easely a long time ago. All the contrary, since 60 years they have proceeded very progressively to acclimate us peacefully to their presence, prooving that their intentions are benevolent and that they have our best interest at heart. This is what scares the hell out of the secret government Cabal, that we now have FRIENDS, powerfull friends that are on the side of the population of Earth.

It does not mean that these positive Celestrial civilisations will automatically come to our defense if the Cabal goes into full mode of implementation of their New World Order. They may come if WE ask for their help, and if enough of us ask for their help ! As they are totally telepathic races, your inner soul decision as to this effect will clearly be perceived by them. And this is what they are really waiting for.

The best alternative there is at the moment, is that the Celestrials, the positive spiritually advanced extraterrestrials, create and take the initiative of the momentum by revealing themselves first, in a progressive massive peacefull worldwide demonstration of their presence and existence. The Celestrials from different human inhabited planets are regrouped in a Galactic Federation that acts as the main supervising organisation of the Celestrial races that have accepted to come here and be part of the large Armada that is currently surveilling the developments that are occuring on Earth. They are very well aware of the existence and the agenda of the secret power mafia that is currently occupying and manipulating all the top levels of the institutionnal pyramid that control our society.


A NON-INTERVENTION CODE INTO PRIMITIVE PLANETS LIKE OURS:
But, these positive Celestrials will go into full implementation mode of this open revelation strategy, only as a last resort, because they have to respect a non-intervention code into the affairs of primitive planets like ours, where due to the global disinformation we are subjected to, most of the population have not yet reach the level of conciousness necessary to accept the very real existence of highly advanced spiritual extraterrestrial races.

But, there is an exception to this code of non-intervention that may aloud the Celestrials to reveal themselves and intervene constructively in our favor. They are aloud to intervene and reveal themselves if enough people on Earth sincerely ask for their help and sincerely wish that they reveal themselves to us in full light.


A CHAIN OF TRUTH:
You may see now why it is important that the maximum possible of humans of good will, become concious of the truth. You see now why your very own conciousness, is important and that you are yourself, every one of you, an important contributor in this mega evolution we are all living together. All the hundreds of millions of humans of good will, that are now fully aware of the Celestrials existence, and understand the importance of all this, they where just like you just a few years ago, before they where informed of the truth by someone that had himself been informed of the truth.

You see, it is a chain of truth that brings the spark of Light in the dark night of lies we are living in. You can recognise the truth in the aspect that the truth always transforms you. Remember also, only the truth can set us free.


A PARADIGM SHIFT IN THE MAKING:
A few centuries ago, on our planet, there has been a similar paradigm shift , when the official institutions on our planet finally openly accepted the reality that our planet is not flat and is not the center of the world.

An even greater paradigm shift is in preparation now, about the open acceptance by our institutions of the existence of extraterrestrial civilisations. This has happened on many planets like ours before, this is now our turn. It is a momentous event in the life of a planet, this is the greatest days of our planet where we will discover our full inheritance the Creator has blessed us with, when we will be initiated into the full extent of our extended family and kindred.

Likewise as the scientific postulate of Galile that the Earth is round and turns around the sun, it will soon be simple and obvious common sense to accept the reality that we are far from being alone in this Universe.


THE FIRST STEPS TO FULL DISCLOSURE ARE ALREADY TAKEN:
This is why you have seen recently all around the world, one after the other, many governments who revealed and opened to the public all their UFO investigation files that were kept secret since 60 years. This is a progressive acclimatation step that is preparing an eventual full scale official disclosure of the extraterrestrial existence.

At the ONU headquarters, there has recently been a series of secret meetings of high ranking civil and military representatives of many countries, that have been discussing the possible scenarios of open divulgation of the truth about the existence of extraterrestrial civilisations now engaging us for a new Era of fruitfull and civilised collaboration and exchanges.

But first we have to show ourselves worthy of this great opportunity that present itself.
And the extraterrestrial civilisation have to be convinced that we are sufficiently civilised and mature to enter into peacefull and constructive exchanges with these more advanced civilisations from other human inhabited planets.

So you see, whoever we are, whatever are our actual beliefs and level of personal evolution, we cannot anymore avoid becoming aware of the implications of the extraterrestrial presence and reality. It will be right in our face soon, one way or another. Wether we are ready or not. If we understand what is really going on based on wise and authentic sources of information like the Internet Network now provides on this subject and many others, we stand a chance for a very bright future. If we take our sources of information and directives from the corrupt and complicit mass media and politicians, humanity will be manipulated into oblivion as easely as a 2 years old child.


WE ARE NOT ALONE ANYMORE:
So you see, one of the major reason of all this secrecy on the matter of
of extraterrestrial existence and presence, is that some factions in our governance hierarchy want to hide from us the Earth population, that you and I now have FRIENDS, powerfull and wise friends.

We are not alone anymore against the axis of manipulation that is
insidiously guiding our planet into nuclear and ecological oblivion. Our Earth Global Governance cartel want to hide from us that we have friends that care for us and our future and are ready, able and willing to help us if so we desire. These friends are powerfull, scientifically, militarely and spiritually. This is what disturb so much our Earth dark elite. It is real bad news for them and their world take over secret plan of global dictature they call The New World Order.

Alone, humanity would have simply very little chance of winning and
preserving a semblance of freedom against this alliance of the negative
extraterrestrial races & the huge covert militaro-politico–industrial-media cartel that have recently successfully orchestrated the events of 9/11 and Irak war to further their world dominion through the device of artificially fabricated wars and terror.

The interest and high ethical stature of these advanced
extraterrestrial civilisations who for the vast majority of them are
at the service of the Light, is indeed a very great blessing for the survival
of a free humanity on this planet.

It will eventually be revealed to us that someone who claims to be family is knocking on our door, and wishing to present us their hommage and blessings, in good faith and in good will. This is the dawn of a new age on Earth, nothing less. It is the time of the return of the Light. And the Light is always preceeded by the Truth. And the Truth is always preceeded by an open mind.


In Brotherhood.

Astraelia


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LINKS TO MAJOR WEB SITES ON UFO MATTERS:


www.exopolitics.org/Study-Papers.htm

www.disclosureproject.org/

www.exopolitics.blogspot.com/2007/11/welcome-to-my-blog_08.html

www.majesticdocuments.com/

http://projectcamelot.org/


www.pleiadians.net/

www.trufax.org/general/ancientorigins.html

www.cseti.org


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[Donald]

I don't know if I can make it. I work on saturday. I'll do my best.

[GaiaLove]

I am in Laval and am willing (wanting) to gather some enlightened folk for a introductory rendez-vous and to discuss face-a-face future plans and get togethers. I have looked through this thread and haven't seen any plans come to fruition. depending on our numbers we may not need to rent a hall but perhaps a restaurant or bar. Lets make this happen, things are moving fast..

I have 2 others with me who would attend.

[NorthernSanctuary]

Please take the initiative. I'm sure you'll get enough people interested. Suggest a time and place.

/Wayne

[Julius]

How about a place like Place Cote-Vertu in St-Laurent.

Usually the food court is empty at around after 4 (mon-Fri), lots of seating and tables....or other food courts (Rockland? Galeries D'Anjou?).

East side Marios has a little room but you need to be about 15 people.

[SilV3rLighT]

yeah that would work .. guys we don't need absolutely each times private spaces when public places would do the purpose at times we can't find anything else.

[metaw3]

Hi all,

From a geopolitical point of view, we might just be ok in Quebec. But the fear that we might not tells us that something is missing in our lives either way: spirituality in the community.

Quebec/Montreal survival community? I'm in: as long as the primary focus is on making contact with higher beings and completing this journey our souls are in, not just waiting for chaos to happen in our neighborhood.

I will meet in Montreal wherever it's agreed upon. My first language is French.

Christian

[Cyberbird]

somehow, I agree.

[astraelia]

SECOND MEETING PROJECT- from Astraelia

Hy everybody, just a reminder, about the place for meeting no 2.

it would be optimal if it is near a metro station so not only those that have a car can come, and not to immense and complex a place like a huge shopping center that to a newcomer might be like a labyrinthe.

I would like to eventually make an invitation for a spiritual meeting at my place, wich is close to cadillac metro station. But I feel we better have a few meetings and get to know one another better before, and have a chance to discuss on various topics of concerns.

Astraelia

[JJackDoobee]

Hi people

First i apologise for my limited english language knowledge, i will do my best.


I salute the initiative you taken in Montreal. Im myself a former montrealer, my mother gave me birth there and i lived in St-Michel, Montreal-north and ahuntsic area for exactly 30 years, then i left because i had to.

Today i live in Temiscouata and my deep feeling tells me that is a safe place for the coming years. In case of the coming events worsten im already safe within my family.

I would like to know what going on with the reunions you made, a resume of what was discussed. What going next. I want to keep in touch about your progress.

[SilV3rLighT]

hi jack, we will sure do a resume of the meeting on the forum .. but first we need to make it happen. I'm pretty sure everybody are very busy these days (including myself) and a group meeting is very difficult to schedule. So I suggest that we fix a date so that at least 3 persons can meet each other , socialize, share information and help people with meditation techniques etc ...
We could build a sort of guideline that people could relay to without affecting a persons free will.

If we wait to start anything, things won't get any easier until we at least a few of us know each other.

By the way, if anybody wants me to explain more precisely what I wanted to point out, ask me in Private Message so that I can explain in French. :thumb_yello:

Love and light shall be with you!

[Olam]

Hello Everyone,

I have not been posting here for a while, I was waiting for the apropriate time...
Now I will take some time and honor the energy I put here in the begining.
I feel I have a responsability to guide this thread now as I was the one who started it....
Oh how times have changed for me since the date I started this thread.

Here is the state I am in right now and where I want to go with my new freinds that I met at the first meeting and anyone else who is on the same page and wants to join....


When I first wrote this thread, I was in a state of hightened awarness of where we were at and what was coming down upon us in the futur and why we should get organized.
I have since been enlightened much furthur and now sit in a different state, much more in control and at peace with what we are faced with.
This forum is quite different than when it started, when we faced the changes of Avalon 2.0, things took a sharp turn on the path, I do not ike this new direction and have refrained to post here ever since. I guess the sucsess of Avalon is in part responsible, we are now sort of mainstream in this marginal pathway if you will and it attracts all kinds of different souls who are at different stages of enlightenment. Do not get me wrong, I in no way see them apart from me/us, its just that I am not in that energy right now. Here is a breif explanation of where Im at and what I want to do in the near futur.

We all have our pathways a bit layed out in front of us, the universe/god/source/call it what you will, provides us all with what we need exactly to advance in this chosen life. Events/people/situations are put in our path for us to pick up on them and move furthur onto the path.Some call it coincidences, I call it syncronicities. Sometimes we do not see these at all, they are right in front of our eyes but we are blind.Blinded by the 3d life we have in this matrix, somewhat controlled by our ego and lifestyle. Still, the persistance of the source gives us multiple oportunities all our lives to go back to source, go back to what we are really inside.
I have wandered for 40 years wondering what the heck I was doing here, then one day, I saw a speck of light....well now the light beam just got alot stronger, way stronger than when I first wrote this thread, even stronger than when we had our first meeting.
I know know why I am here for, where I got from, and where Im going.
I recently had multiple syncronicities and the floodgates opened up, things are going very fast now for me and I want to pass this on down to my enlightened friends. I will share with you some of my recent discoveries,hoping to inspire some of you to join me in this path. It is very important that I mention this as for sure, the radiant zone that I will participate to build will be formed with people on the same page as me. I do not want to sound like I am excluding anyone not conforming to who I am, this is NOT a religion, I am not following a guru/belief system/organization, its just the profound realization of who I am and where the divine intelligence lives.
Now I will give out some names and websites, it could seem that I am following a belief system/guru and all that, but before casting this judjement, you will have to study the material. Like I said before, everything we need to realize ourselves in our full potential right now is right there in front of us, or rather INSIDE us all. The exterior material is merely a catalyst to put in motion the absolute realization of all that we have inside of us.
OK, here we go....
I recently crossed a person on my pathway right here in Montreal that showed me how to work my interior energy, empower my crystals, modify the bad energy I had inside me, work with the universe.....if I had not done all the work I have been doing in the last 2 months, I would of dismissed this guy as a nutcase, a freak or some other adjective of that kind....but you see, with this great foundation that I have built before recognizing him on my path, he was the absolute opposite.His aquantance was for me the capstone on my recent work, the absolute confirmation of what I have learned.....everything fell into place, in every tiny little precious details. I now know where the truth lies and now, for me its just a matter of extacting all this which is inside of me.
This is why, I mentioned that this forum has changed now, I recognize all the people who have not yet found the goldmine INSIDE themselves. I recognize them as I was like that a few months ago.
You see, fear is a very powerful energy, it is addictive, it is on the same page as pleasure....fear and pleasure live together. Just as you are looking for pleasure all your life, it is harder to acheive when you are lost and so you fall back on fear, which has the same energy but easier to get a hold of. A big percentage of all posts here lately are based on fear....that is why the forum changed so much......now its all about conspiracies and fear mongering.
I can say right now that I have eradicated fear from my life......fear clouds the mind, you need a clear mind to live in the present.When you live in the present, you can face any challenge put on your path and ACT accordingly, you do not have to make choices, you take the immediate right ACTION and that is all. It is crucial to have a clear mind and live in the present for the upcoming challenges. Anyone living in a thought based life, will have a difficult time dealing with what is coming up.

"Freedom from the known", I guess is a great way to introduce Krishnamurti to whoever is not familiar with the man.
Knowledge is based on the past, anything you learn has been done in the past, when you are a slave to knowledge, you are living in the past....the thing is, of coarse you need knowledge to function on a day to day basis. You need to know how the clock works to know when to go to your corner street to catch the bus on its shedule....ect,ect......but for life based moments, facing life challenges, you have to put aside all knowledge as it is keeping you in the past!
All knowledge existing is already inside you, your heart connection to your higher self/soul/source is all you need to be able to grab any knowledge nessesary for the present task. Divine intelligence that is the source is at your disposal anytime you need it. You need to free yourself from thought based knowledge to open up your heart connection to the source, then you are timeless, you can take advantage of all you already know.....
When a human fetus grows inside the womb, the first organ to come to life is the heart....it starts beating as soon as its formed.....infused with energy coming directly from the source.It is the first pysical connection we have with our soul/higher self/source. This amazing connection is what is keeping us alive for all these years. As we grow up, rationalization takes us away from this heart connection, we loose the ability to tap into source for all we ever need and all we ever will need in this life. By going back to a heart based living which includes compassion, respect, and love for each other we get back to basics.

Love, compassion,humility,forgiveness,understanding,valo r, are all opposite to fear and all energy tied to that.

This is why for me, it is crucial to have these divine values honored by all who will potentially participate in a futur radiant//safe zone. Like Michael St-Clair states, if you have one person who is not on that page in your radiant zone, the whole thing fall apart.This mirror actually where we will be at come 2012. All this stuff about assending to 4d and having a higher vibration based on living from the heart.....

OK enough for now, here are some links to the studies I have done, there is alot to read and listen too on video, its time consuming, but I promise you will not have lost these hours. Think about all the time you put here reading fear based stuff and imagine if all that was put on heart/love/compassion based energy.....

Krishnamurti....for you who do not know him, he was a man who for 60 years went around the world, speaking to the masses......with one coherent mesage....his goal was to set man unconditionally free, free from himself and all that is asociated with having a human experience on this earth.......there is alot of stuff out there about him. It can be difficult to find yourself in all this......luckily, some great soul decided to put some of his greatest works all together in a package. Krishnamurti did alot of interviews in his life, there is one series that is the best place to start. It is 18, one hour talks about specific subjects.....they should be listened in the right order...1,2,3...ect.....as they all eveolve from the last one. Yes 18 hours can seem like a daunting task, but please take the time, you will not regret it.....this should be THE catalyst to the begining of a new age in your life.
After that, you can check out some other snippets of Krishnamurti which all mirror these 18 hours.
Then there is the Wingmakers info, this also falls in the same path.....as Michael St-Clair does also......he used to participate here, until all his posts were deleted....(not by Bill and Kerry), there seemed to be some hacking going on and that was the departure of Henry Deacon also.
So St-Clair started his own website, just an amazing place...in fact, right now, its THE place to go for heart based energy. Please read the directives on the front page, everyone there is living from the heart and do not post any fear based info.....I myself have not posted there yet even if I have been a member from day one....I am waiting to be able to contribute to the level of others there.
There are many great enlightened souls in there,,,,look especially for....
Richard Sauder, Chris Hughes,Samantha Britt Beaumont,pete,lohiaaditya,Zynox,The exchanger,and of coarse St-Clair himself.

Here are the links....

18 one hour Krishnamurti videos to start with:
http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2347024%3ATopic%3A2499

"Feedback on Krishnamurti:
http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2347024%3ATopic%3A593&page=1#comments

St-Clair Zone:
http://stclairzone.ning.com/

Wingmakers......start with the 3 audio interviews with James, the Wingmakers creator:
http://www.wingmakers.com/whats-new.html

OK, thats enough for now.......
A little note for futur meetings, first, Im not saying that I do not want to go to fear based meetings, I would love to have everyone on the same sound foundation of heart based living and putting aside fear.......that being said, I will attend ALL meetings as the people I met in the first one are all enlightened and I want to share with you all.
We are previledged here in Canada, we have a bit more time than the US to prepare, the upcoming elections are crucial as to what scenario we will have to deal with. Whoever is elected, does not really matter, the earth, energy, societal changes will occur anyhow, its just at what time all this will happen is the detail that will come out after we know who is elected.
January next year will be a big month after the inoguration and possibly, after that, things will go fast....so we have 2-3 months to get our stuff together really.
In closing, I do not want in no way to force anyone to have a look at all the stuff I have posted here, its your life and you have the free will to do what you want, but for me, it will be crucial to have people on the same page for any collaboration in a radiant zone which should be active for 3-7 years.....

Much love and respect to everyone here,
Namaste,
Olam

you cam PM me for more detailed based info, I have acsess to books and litterature that I could give to you on cd format if you are interested...

[topsykret]

Hi Olam,
Glad to read you woke up...Nice testimony!It is a fact that many people here are **** scared and i think this is legitimate due to the kind of info we seek/find on those kind of forum.I know i feeded my spirit whith fear scenario and even worst i realise i helped spread the fear to people that were living quietly ignoring the nibiru rumors or the mayan calendar speculations or other conspy theories...i m so guilty.
To my defense i must say that since childhood i deeply feel something is gonna happen that will radicaly change our world as we know it.So for me it was normal to warn loved ones.Now i let people be...

I found a way to beat the fear ,its easy...if you fear a cataclism then simply be prepare to the best of your knowledge,once your prepared your fear will vanish.

If you seek for fear...fear you gonna find!
You seek for love? love your gonna find!

Love and peace to you all

Al

[sunflower]

Hi Olam, I agree with the direction you are taking.

I had already downloaded the info on Krishnamurti from St. Clair's forum and plan to purchase his latest book. I have been reading and rereading the Wingmakers' site for the last two years. Some people seem to flow in this direction naturally ie my husband. He agrees with all of this but goes on with his life unconcerned and impeccably as possible. I, on the other hand, must constantly watch that I don't give in to fear. I was told once that I must "flex my courage" but that I was courageous. Well that at least was a good start!

I have learned over the past few years to trust my intuition and go within to find answers. That helps me sift thru all the different kinds of info we are
encountering lately.

As I mentioned once before on this thread, because of our volunteer work, family and age, I don't believe we will move anywhere unless forced to by circumstances. We plan to stay put and do whatever we can within our own small world.

Most of our friends and relatives are unfamiliar with our view of reality. That's why this forum is so important to me.

[astraelia]

Hy everybody, I'm posting some encouraging news transmitted by Mark Kimmel from Cosmic Paradigm:www.cosmicparadigm.com

I send you all love light and grace from the sacred cave and cristal mountain.

Astraelia
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In his first communication, posted on 9-25-08, Justine from the star system Altair, talked about the pyramid structure of our current civilization, a structure based on wealth and power, and how fear controls this structure. He also pointed out that puppet masters, beings who are not indigenous to this planet, have enslaved us, and have placed their kind in positions of power.

On 9-27-08, Justine described himself as an embodied spirit, and pointed out other similarities to Earth humans. He went on to describe his beautiful planet, Supsten, as one with an advanced civilization, a civilization we can look forward to in our future. His planet was also enslaved by the dark energy, but not as completely as is Earth; his people overthrew it. His people are bringing energy crystals to earth to help us during our time of transition and to show his peaceful intent.

Justine returned on 9-28-08 with comments about when we might see craft from another planet and that it was a very complicated process to organize such a massive effort. Personal choice will result in a bifurcation of Earth humans with the majority choosing to remain in 3rd dimension existence rather than reaching out for new ways of being. Finally he said that now was the time of our transition.

On 9-30-08, Justine commented on the situation with the economy, and more importantly what was going on behind the headlines. Many wealthy and powerful people are pawns in the hands of agents of the dark energy. Light energy is coming to humanity from many sources, including the vast armada of starships huddled about our planet. These are extraordinary times that will result in a transformation of Earth.

In a brief commentary on 10-1-08, Justine commented on the value of the great diversity of Earth, and that a revitalized Earth will retain much of it. He called for us humans to transmit our unique vision of a new Earth.

On 10-2-08, Brenton from the Andromedan star system communicated on human origins on this planet. Our primitive ancestors, one race of whom came from Andromeda, were highly conscious; they believed in God. In time their memory of who they were and where they had come from diminished.

Brenton returned on 10-4-08 to tell us that our moon is an artificial structure, placed here to control the planet and her people. He discussed removing the moon and correcting the tilt of Earth’s axis. This will cause changes in weather and other energies, but result in a temperate climate for the planet. This gigantic effort requires cooperation among many star civilizations and celestials.

On 10-7-08, I was surprised to hear from Flavius, an earlier incarnation of my cumulative oversoul from the time of the Roman Emperor Constantine. He described growing up in a wealthy household and his career in the Roman army. His main purpose in communicating was to describe how Constantine’s decree that Christianity become the state religion had affected him and other traditional Romans. One interesting aspect of this was the treatment of homosexuality and how the bishops used it to get a lever over the army.

Brenton returned on 10-15-08 to tell us that everything is energy, that our physical reality is just a lower density, and that we, and everything on our planet, are holograms of one kind or another. Energy shifts are affecting our physical bodies, and dismantling the institutions created by mankind. He advised us to store what we need to care for ourselves for this, the time of our transition. The initial results of the transition will not be existence at a dramatically higher frequency.

On 10-17-08 Justine returned to explain that capitalism, as we know it, is collapsing. We will experience it most immediately with the collapse of fiat currencies. Capitalism, in league with fossil fuels, created the population explosion of the last sixty years. Capitalism will be replaced by an economic system amenable to humanity. Not everyone will welcome this transformation. Acquiring precious metals is a good strategy for the interim time. He reiterated that he and our other brothers and sisters were here to assist.

Unexpectedly, on 10-19-08 Earth asked to communicate, telling us of her origins and her future. Humans were brought to this planet, as were animals and plants. It was a paradise for humans, animals, and plants before the dark energy descended upon her. Hosting the darkness, with its fear-based enslavement, was a role she had agreed to play, until it was her time to return to a lighter density. Sixty years ago she cried out that she had experienced enough of the fear; many from other star systems came to assist her release. She talked about how the pending pole shift, the removal of the moon, and the withdrawal of the dark energy would herald a return to her former beauty, and create a paradise for her human inhabitants.


Second, these messages will make more sense if you have read the third book of the Paradigm Trilogy: “One: Toward a Civilization of Light.” It is available at: http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/About_One_Toward_A_Civilization_Of_Light.html It will be available at Amazon and other bookstores in the near future.

[St@rlightener]

Bonjour a tous ! J'ai quitté Montreal il y a quelques mois pour Sherbrooke. Je resent le besoin urgent d'enligner mes flutes vers un futur sécurisé (Espérer le meilleur & se préparer au pire !)

Mon allié & meilleur ami ma réveillé en 2005.
Le systeme de brainwash occidental na jamais réussi a me transformer en mouton & ce depuis ma naissance, mais j'ai du payer le prix plusieurs fois en étant dans des classes spéciale pour hyper-actif bourré de Ritalin, des centres de réadaptation pour adolescents non-conformistes.

Bref je suis pret a tout, mais je manque de préparation face au facteurs climatiques Nord Américain, j'ai des amis Algonquin dans le Parc de la Vérendrye mais mon choix optimal est l'Amérique du Sud.

Je n'ais pas encore vue des personnes de Sherbrooke sur le forum, mais ce n'est pas grave depuis cet été je suis sur le mode ''Nomad'' & franchement Sherbrooke l'aisse a désirer, malgré le fait que c'est la ville avec les citoyens les plus acceuillant que j'ai vu dans ma vie(Peut être que j'ai habité pendant trop longtemps a Montreal !).

Si j'ai la chance de pouvoir monter a Montreal pour un meet-up, je pourrais peut être au début du mois prochain, a la prochaine !

(By the way i preffer to speak french in that thread, but i speak both languages)

I recognise the God that is within . . . . . . .

[IgorAlvarez]

hello bonjour, Im really excited to have found this forum, Im not really into forums but i think that this one can be a good tool to communicate important information and to make contact with people who are ready to go to the next level.

For me everything started when i was 5 years old , i lived in Santiago Chile in the 80's and thats when i saw a UFO right above my head. I don't remember anything else but my parents say that i arrived at home crying . The day after in the news everyone was talking about UFO sightings , that's when i started to understand . I've never seen an ET and the UFO that i saw could have been man made so that's why Im into all the disclosure issue.

Now i live in Montreal and Im tired of the mass manipulation that we have to live through , Im tired of feeling the negativity surrounding our societies . We need to help the others and ourselves see far away our planet and our universe and everything starts within each one of us . We are at a breaking point in Earth history , we are the solution , we have the spirit , we have the technologies , we're no longer babies , It's time to be one with our biosphere , we are the guardians and they know that we could be much more.

Can't wait for the next MTL ground crew meeting and meet all you wonderful
people.

[astraelia]

SIGHTING of 2 UFOs IN MONTREAL / from Astraelia
http://astraelia.piczo.com

Tuesday 4 nov 2008around 6.30pm.

I was outside in this beautifull indian summer night, looking at the sky.
I was sending telepathic waves to our brothers and sisters the beloved Celestrials that are in mission around the Earth in the invisible spectrum.
I was asking if I should go to the sacred site tomorrow for 2 days as I was planning, and I was asking if there was any plans from their part to further contact evolution at the sacred site.


Then I notice what seem to be 2 very bright stars appear in front of my eyes where I was gazing. There was very few other stars in the sky at that early time of the evening. They were not blinking like planes, they were in a diagonal formation an angle like when the time on a watch is at 11 oclock, I was strongly attracted to them and it seemed to me they where moving, moving together like locked on at the same distance & speed in a cluster moving in the same direction. I found a tree top to use as a fix point to be sure that they were moving and yes, affirmative they were.

So at that point it was clear it was classic UFO shamanic language if I can express myself in this manner. Clear for the initiate, invisible for the non initiate. Than after the moment I realised this was a genuine UFO sighting and in answer to my request, then with discretion, the 2 UFO started to progressively fade into the invisible spectrum mode together. Saying that will be all for tonight, it is tomorrow and the next 2 days now that will be the next step. I than knew it was their answer... YES I should go, they will be there in heart or in sight but they will be there and I will be their shaman to celebrate together with them, in brotherhood, joy, spirit and hope.

I then went in my room were the spherical stone is at the feet of the Flame of Stone I also found at the site after having looked for it for years knowing I would find it one day.

I then put the medieval music the Hymn to ste-Cecilia from Pursell, and with the sacred stone over my heart chakras I started to sing and do a sacred ceremony in spirit with the Celestrials and all the sacred world of Light that all initiates in all Ages, in all Times have seen and known. It was the most powerfull heavenly and lightfull moment and concert, I really felt fully connected to them, I was healed by this connection, inspired, one with all that is. I felt the awesome power of the sacred stone, This is one more of it's great powers it is revealing. The power to unite the sacred dimension of the Celestrials with our dimension and make us all become One. It is a portal stone, that has the power to open a spiritual sacred dimensionnal doorway.This was one of the most beautifull moment of my life. An unexpressible communion. We are blessed my friends, more than we have ever known. more than we ever hoped or wished for, we are ... believe it. Great things are in the making, it has been shown to me and to many initiates. The powers of above are coming back to Earth. It is time that we play the role we have been sent here for, within ourself first and foremost. And also within the circle of initiates that we are.

-- -----------
update:
When I was at the site, when I arrived the 2 eagles of the Matawini mountain came see me and called so I would notice them. After I rested in the evening after a day at the sacred cave, I saw one pulsating light in the sky, and it was not moving, it kept pulsating steadily at the same position for around 7 minutes. So they were at the rendez-vous.

I have also received a email from someone in montreal that saw the same 2 UFO over montreal at the same time I saw them around 6 30 pm and saw them fade out together.

While I was at the site I also saw something I never saw before, 3 huge meteors in the same trajectory within 5 minutes almost visually an inch wide compare to a hairline width normal meteors are. I do not know if it was natural or of extraterrestrial origin, but they were huge and autoluminescent.

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UPDATE#2: 2 DIAGONAL UFO SIGHTING

There is more about this UFO sighting than I thought. I have found on a internet forum that this exact sighting configuration has been seen in many different countries and at different dates all over the world. The exact same configuration I saw. Two UFO in diagonal that appear like 2 very bright stars, non pulsating, that moves in unisson and than progressively fade out in the invisible spectrum.
It seems to be a message that there will be soon the revelation of the Celestrials presence for all to see, and this in order to end the statu guo paradigm of silence and denial about their presence.

The angle of the diagonal of the 2 UFO is the angle of the 11 th hour of the clock. Again, like the previous mass sighting of the countdown clock of 2012 I saw this summer that was similar to a sighting of Miriam Delicado, there seems to be this message of the final hour draws close, prepare...



You can read these exchanges between people of different countries on this diagonal 2 UFO internationnal sightings at:

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-57-53105-1-0-1-0-0.htm

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2 recent developments:

- The great indian chief and chaman, 95 years old Elder William Commanda of Maniwaki came to the Sacred Cave with his wife to do a sacred spiritual ceremony and give transmission of his blessings to me. It was the most magical moment, the sacred cave was awaithing him, I never saw the cave so beautifull it was like a heavenly emanation. The Eagle came to see him during the pipe ceremony of Cammanda and a Blue Jay came sing with me and my chamanic drum.

- Matawini Sacred Site of Astraelia Web Site: I have finally a web site. You can now see many of the recent photografs of the new discoveries.

http://astraelia.piczo.com


- I will soon make an invitation for a meeting at my home and we will also go do a group meditation in the pine tree circle where the Blue Katchina crop circle appeared.

Bliss Love and Light to everyone
Farewell

Astraelia
astraelia@gmail.com
http://astraelia.piczo.com

[YokoYoko]

SIGHTING of 2 UFOs IN MONTREAL
Tuesday 4 nov 2008around 6.30pm.

I was outside in this beautifull indian summer night, looking at the sky.
I was sending telepathic waves to our brothers and sisters the beloved Celestrials that are in mission around the Earth in the invisible spectrum.
I was asking if I should go to the sacred site tomorrow for 2 days as I was planning, and I was asking if there was any plans from their part to further contact evolution at the sacred site.


Then I notice what seem to be 2 very bright stars appear in front of my eyes where I was gazing. There was very few other stars in the sky at that early time of the evening. They were not blinking like planes, they were in a diagonal formation an angle like when the time on a watch is at 11 oclock, I was strongly attracted to them and it seemed to me they where moving, moving together like locked on at the same distance & speed in a cluster moving in the same direction. I found a tree top to use as a fix point to be sure that they were moving and yes, affirmative they were.

So at that point it was clear it was classic UFO shamanic language if I can express myself in this manner. Clear for the initiate, invisible for the non initiate. Than after the moment I realised this was a genuine UFO sighting and in answer to my request, then with discretion, the 2 UFO started to progressively fade into the invisible spectrum mode together. Saying that will be all for tonight, it is tomorrow and the next 2 days now that will be the next step. I than knew it was their answer... YES I should go, they will be there in heart or in sight but they will be there and I will be their shaman to celebrate together with them, in joy, spirit and hope for all the childs of Light.

I then went in my room were the spherical stone is at the feet of the Flame of Stone I also found at the site after having looked for it for years knowing I would find it one day.

I then put the divine mystical medieval music the Hymn to ste-Cecilia from Pursell, and with the sacred stone in my hands, over my heart chakras I started to sing to the night wind and do a sacred ceremony in spirit with the Celestrials and all the sacred world of Light we are living in and that more and more are discovering in the inner sacredness of their heart. It was the most powerfull heavenly and lightfull moment and concert, I really felt fully connected to them, I was healed by this connection, inspired, one with all that is. I understand more my role as a musician, mystical and celestrial initiated person. This is the dimension I was send to play my role, at least this is one of them it is clear to me now.

I will go tomorrow and do another ceremony with the Celestrials at the cristal altar I discovered this summer of 2008. This summer I made a great discovery, I discovered that the whole sacred cave and mountain are in cristal. And there are rivers of cristal obelisques and pyramids.

I will also go at the new site I discovered that is crowned with a huge 8 feet long UFO shaped stone. It is another sign that indeed this megalithic sacred site of Matawini is of celestrial origin and that my coming back here as the second incarnation of the Matawini Shaman that centuries ago had previously left for me to discover the sacred stone & the UFO stone message on the rock dome altar, this sacred site is beyond doubt deeply involved with a mission that is related to the Celestrials.

So I am leaving tomorrow morning and will bring the spherical Celestrial Stone with me.

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update:
When I was at the site, when I arrived the 2 eagles of the Matawini mountain came see me and called so I would notice them. After I rested in the evening after a day at the sacred cave, I saw one pulsating light in the sky, and it was not moving, it kept pulsating steadily at the same position for around 7 minutes. So they were at the rendez-vous.

I have also received a email from someone in montreal that saw the same 2 UFO over montreal at the same time I saw them around 6 30 pm and saw them fade out together.

While I was at the site I also saw something I never saw before, 3 huge meteors in the same trajectory within 5 minutes almost visually an inch wide compare to a hairline width normal meteors are. I do not know if it was natural or of extraterrestrial origin, but they were huge and autoluminescent.

-----------------------
UPDATE#2: 2 DIAGONAL UFO SIGHTING

There is more about this UFO sighting than I thought. I have found on a internet forum that this exact sighting configuration has been seen in many different countries and at different dates all over the world. The exact same configuration I saw. Two UFO in diagonal that appear like 2 very bright stars, non pulsating, that moves in unisson and than progressively fade out in the invisible spectrum.
It seems to be a message that there will be soon the revelation of the Celestrials presence for all to see, and this in order to end the statu guo paradigm of silence and denial about their presence.

The angle of the diagonal of the 2 UFO is the angle of the 11 th hour of the clock. Again, like the previous mass sighting of the countdown clock of 2012 I saw this summer that was similar to a sighting of Miriam Delicado, there seems to be this message of the final hour draws close, prepare...



You can read these exchanges between people of different countries on this diagonal 2 UFO internationnal sightings at:

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-57-53105-1-0-1-0-0.htm

--------

2 recent developments:

- The great indian chief and chaman, 95 years old Elder William Commanda of Maniwaki came to the Sacred Cave with his wife to do a sacred spiritual ceremony and give transmission of his blessings to me. It was the most magical moment, the sacred cave was awaithing him, I never saw the cave so beautifull it was like a heavenly emanation. The Eagle came to see him during the pipe ceremony of Cammanda and a Blue Jay came sing with me and my chamanic drum.

- Matawini Sacred Site of Astraelia Web Site: I have finally a web site. You can now see many of the recent photografs of the new discoveries.

http://astraelia.piczo.com/?cr=5


- I will soon make an invitation for a meeting at my home and we will also go do a group meditation in the pine tree circle where the Blue Katchina crop circle appeared.

Bliss Love and Light to everyone
Farewell

Astraelia
astraelia@gmail.com
Namasté to all,

Happy to see all of you re-acting to what futur may manifeste.
Je suis de la région de Montréal, de langue francaise. But I can communicate in english. Been fallowing Projet Camelot from the beginning and love the way they leave the door open always for change and new development. I am one of those who believe that I will be at the right place at the right time...for what ever is coming are way. Had experience with UFO's , as long as I can remember always know...that life is much more then what I deal for..and bargenning for a better deal now! I am working on my connection with my higherself... my feeling is that will soon be part of a intergalactical sociaty and discernement we have to develop on a personnal level. It is great to get prépared for time to come, I do, my own way. To create " une petite société autosuffisante et autonome" is the way for a better world I believe.
I am not sure what I can bring in it yet. I'm just happy to see that you do act on it. Like many of you I am quiet anxious to see in are little yard some concret developement. May are faith in a better world keep us going no matter what so we can make the difference we work so hard for.
namasté
Yoko
p.s. hope my english is ok.

[astraelia]

MESSAGE ANNONCING THE CELESTRIALS COMING REVELATION:

A beautifull message that arrived the day of my birthday,
I could not have a more encouraging & uplifting gift.
May I share it with you, in hope & brotherhood.

Astraelia

http://astraelia.piczo.com
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from MARK KIMMEL - COSMIC PARADIGM.COM
Thursday, November 20, 2008

We are coming

The following communication was provided on 11/19/08 and on 11/20/08.

From an ambassador from Andromeda

The appearance of our great starships will be a shock to almost everyone on your planet. It will be a first time for most people to see a fully materialized ship from another planet. Heretofore, many appearances have been holographic images transmitted from our ships in orbit. Our arrival will cause many changes to your previously held beliefs.

Our current plan is to make appearances in a number of locations simultaneously. This will heighten the value of our debut. As we have stated many of your systems and institutions will be shocked by our arrival. Many people will continue to deny the reality of what they see with their own eyes; many will fear. So this will not be a momentary appearance and then we depart; no, we will stay awhile.

There will be some interchange of communications from our ships to you via your radio and television. We will also be transmitting telepathically. The basic message will be as follows:

We are here at the request of many of this planet. We come in peace. We do not wish to overwhelm you, or to be treated as superior. Only our technology sets us apart from you.

This is the end of an era for the people of this planet. The darkness that has overwhelmed you for many thousands of years is lifted. You may now see yourselves as the beautiful beings whom you are. You are our sisters and brothers. Welcome back into the family.

We would like to help you correct your presence on this planet, so that you will no longer assault Earth. We wish to help you live at peace with each other and with your home.

To that end, we will help you develop technology that will enable you to do this. Also we are making certain adjustments to the planet to return her full function to her. She is a beautiful sphere that has been chained these many years.

There will be a period of transition to the new. We will work to minimize its impact on all of you. Please join with us in a spirit of friendship and mutual assistance.

This is a preview of the message you will receive when we make our appearance. Please broadcast it so that many will know.

Conditions on your planet are quite fragile, much more than you are being led to believe. Your economy and governments are stressed. Your environment is stretched to the limit. You are unable to continue on this path. Major changes will be required. Are you ready to undertake these changes? Are you ready to step up to become citizens of the cosmos? Are you ready to fulfill your destiny?

The most obvious group who will be forced to openly recognize our existence is your military. They will come to see that they have no place in peaceful interaction between civilizations from different planets. Sophisticated weapons of your military were designed with the assistance of those who came here under the guidance of the dark energy. We wish them to be turned off before we make our appearance so that there will be no injuries to those on your planet or to our ships.

Next will be governments, who will be forced to admit that they are part of a larger whole. They will send emissaries to meet with us, to speak for the people, however our mission is to speak to the people directly; we will do that. Many will “hear” us speaking to them directly. All will be startled. Those who are awake will accept us as their brothers and sisters. Those who are less awake will be dismayed, but they too can see us as non-threatening, if they will change their perspective.

And, yes, many will fear us and reject us. Those who cling to old religious notions will fear us the most. Religious leaders can do much to ease the fears of those who look up to them. Will they do that? We will see.

Scientists will change their views of what is possible and what is not. Some of their physics will be outdated. Again, some will resist. We anticipate that most will eagerly accept.

Those who deal with the environment will see us as a way to cleanse the Earth. That we will do, as well as changing attitudes about your planet. Many of our transmissions will be made to help people to understand Earth as a living organism.

All institutions set up by the agents of the dark energy will be impacted. We will not impose our ways on you; only show you at there are other ways. Showing ourselves will assist you to rethink your priorities.

We come here not to destroy Earth or her people, rather we wish to jolt humankind with the realization that there is more to living than leading a self-centered life. Those who are caught up in that mode will fail to accept us.

Your methods of transportation will be seen as outmoded. This will lead to demands for radical change. We will show you the way; you must implement it for yourselves.

Communications will be altered as you see that you can communicate without the need for electronics. This will change the shape of your telecommunications.

We have previously spoken of the energy sources that we have installed. These will ease your burden during this time of transition.

Yes, the impact of our showing ourselves in this density will be overwhelming, particularly to those who cling to the old ways. This may produce a few weeks of painful adjustment. Be prepared for dislocations of the conventional.

It is only after we make ourselves know that we will make certain adjustments to your planet. We have previously spoken of these. These too will cause some temporary adaptations. Be prepared and help those who do not yet understand. Earth is returning to her pristine, beautiful state. Humankind is returning to its state before the dark energy invaded your planet and modified you. Some will be see this as ascension; in reality it is a returning and new grounding. From there you will advance to be a planet of the cosmos.

All facets of your current context will be affected. Look to each other in preparation for our time of arrival. Examine for yourself how it would change your life. Do a little homework in anticipation of our arrival. Discuss it with others.



I am the God of this universe. The words of Bren-Ton are my words to you. You are me; I am you. You are my creatures, but at the same time we are one. You are all of me. Now is the time when your sisters and brothers will make their appearance. Welcome them.

You too may have lived on other planets than Earth. Recall those experiences now to assist the transformation of this planet. Recall your training for this moment.

Those of you who read these words will resonate with them in a particular fashion. They will trigger within you something long buried. Be open to that new urging, those new insights. Come from a place of love for your sisters and brothers and for your planet Earth. I am the God of this universe; I welcome you to the fullness of your being.



Whew, I am overwhelmed. Thank you, God. Thank you Bren-Ton.

In Truth, Love and Joy,

Mark
from:

http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/

[astraelia]

MEETING INVITATION to MONTREAL Avalon community
-- -------------- CANCELLED -----------------------
from Astraelia

I had many e-mails of people who would come
but could not because they were to busy
with the nearing Christmass time.

[astraelia]

LE TUNNEL OBSCUR DU TAO

Il existe un tunnel obscur dans la Lumière infinie.
On l'appelle "temps"
Lorsqu'un humain entre dans ce tunnel,
On appelle cela "naître".
Lorsqu'un humain marche au long de ce tunnel,
On appelle cela "vivre"
Lorsqu'un humain sort de ce tunnel,
On appelle cela "mourir"
Considérer que vivre se réduit à évoluer au long de ce tunnel obscur,
Cela s'appelle "illusion"
Percer des trous dans ce tunnel obscur,
Cela s'appelle "science".
Savoir que la Lumière est autour du tunnel,
Cela s'appelle "Foi".
Voir la Lumière dans le tunnel obscur,
Cela s'appelle "Amour"
Voir la Lumière à travers le Tunnel obscur,
Cela s'appelle "sagesse".
Eclairer le tunnel obscur de sa propre Lumière,
Cela s'appelle "illumination"
Confondre la Lumière et le tunnel obscur,
Cela est au delà des mots.

Texte Taoiste

[Cyberbird]

:soccer_h4h:

[THE eXchanger]

let us all know, when the next meeting is

love/susan
the eXchanger

[M45]

Hi, just wondering if people in Quebec/Montreal are still here?

[Ravencalls]

Hi Montrealers!

I just joined the Project Avalon site. and to my surprise ..came across this sub group...

GREAT!!.. so . anyway I am willing to communicate with anyone who is serious and interested in planning something in the near future . I live near metro Henri Bourassa

if anyone is willing to get anything going please feel free to email me at { raven6210@hotmail.com } ..merci! thanx!..

peace!

[Cosmic Dancer]

Hi M45 and Ravencalls!

I just wanted to let you know that there are many from the Montreal area that are presently active at this time. Some of us are also on this forum.

We have a Radiant Zone meeting coming up on Feb. 7, 2010 by the Rainbow Community Group in Montreal. See the link here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19304

If you'd like more information on the meeting or would like to just connect with other like-minded Montrealers, feel free to join us or contact me by PM.

Much Peace and Love !
-- Cosmic Dancer :original: