Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views?

[Norval]

http://projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html

My download stoped half way through, , , :mad3:

Her experiances are informative. :thumb_yello:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3385

[Jenny]

I was very impressed.
In my opinion she is genuine , sincere, very caring and thoughtfull.

Het advice to LOOK into the EYES and then you will know..MAKE them look into your eyes..is great:original:

Btw; she herself has beautifull eyes.

Jenny.

Z for Zorro

[King Lear]

hmmm...
what to say?

hmmm...

I just watched it, and first I want to laud some things:

First of all I want to laud Kerry for her modest interviewing technique in this interview:thumb_yello:
Then I was appreciated about the improved microphone technology for the witness, only Bill again had to suffer under the bad microphone:wink2:


And now to the interview:
I found it quite interesting what Miriam had to say, but some things were a bit too crypto-esoteric for me, so to speak.

Perhaps there's someone here who can give me a clue to that.
(1-4 world, the future etc.)

What I also found quite interesting, was her mention of some dark beings and happenings beneath the earth surface.
What did she mean?
Reptilians?
Perhaps at this point Kerry or Bill should have went into it once again.
But I can understand that Miriam perhaps didn't want to tell more about it, because just to think of it is to cruel for her.

At the end she said something really wise:
We all shall learn how to handle seeds and how to plant them, this indeed would minimize our need for oil. (delivery of fruits, vegetables and so on and also the plastic we use to pack it)

[MyShadow]

For me this was a stunning display of how we all create our own realities, beliefs and intentions.

MyShadow

[carliec]

Her eyes seem very imbalanced. Could just be the camera angle. It doesn't mean she is lying just that mentally she is imbalanced.

http://educate-yourself.org/ww/sanpakueyes16feb06.shtml

[Isa]

I was fascinated by her story and her experiences. I believe also she is correct about there being a choice in our near future; I can FEEL this in my very bones. This choice, it seems to me, exists right now in every single moment. I also agree with her sense of urgency and how important it is to be consciously focusing on this choice in a continuous fashion right now. This is a time to be vigilant and to reach deep within to pull out the best of ourselves... and also the threads behind this ~ the ones that connect us to that vast and loving mystery we are all a part of.

In my day to day living it is manifesting as an emphasis on integrity, authenticity, kindness and of course LOVE, which is the basis of it all. I also have had visions of the end of humanity as we know it, and the suffering, the destruction ~ when Miriam cried, I understood that grieving b/c I have experienced it. Everything in me rallied against it ~ no, no, no, no ~ but there was no recovery at that point; it was too late. It was sad sad sad, yet there was nothing to be done about it. However, now I realize that was a future probability and not a certainty. This has given me such a surge of hope and optimism, I cannot even tell you! Now my focus is firm; there is only ONE timeline, ONE possibility I will EVER lend my energy to again in this regard. We WILL change this outcome. We WILL raise our energy together as a collective unit and shift the Ages into a New Dawn.

Thanks so much to Project Avalon, Bill & Kerry and to all the wonderful and loving people here ~ this is hope manifested. This is tomorrow's fond memory of how we all assisted in the upcoming SHIFT in consciousness!

Love to all,
Isa

[Jnana]

Great interview. SInce I read the book before seeing the interview there were no surprises in it for me. I recommend her book to anyone who is looking for more background on what was covered in the interview. I had already decided she was genuine and interview confirmed that for me. Her website http://alienbluestar.com has a forum section focused on seeds and gardening.

[Nate]

This is in response to Miriam Delicado's interview (http://www.projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html) when she talks about the "seeds" of the earth.

When listening to Miriam's interview, I was reminded of two articles I have read on Global Research (http://www.globalresearch.ca/) when Miriam tells how the Tall Blondes talked to her about "seeds", which she is concerned about because of its ability to save the planet.

Below are the two articles:

"Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Artic: Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO Giants Know Something We Don't (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529) by William F. Engdahl
Globabl Research
December 4, 2007

NATO's Doomsday Seed Vault in the Artic: Using "Climate Change" as a Pretext to Appropriate World's Seeds' Treasure (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10300) by William F. Engdahl
Global Research
September 22, 2008

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

yeah there had ben a you tube vid posted i think of a cnn news clip feb this year.. i heard there is also the dna of all creatures and creepy crawlies ect on earth.maybe that is what all this david attenborough stuff has been all about since ww2.. all scientific studies used to collect dna for terra forming earth..

[lehomonuka]

hi ya all
Thank you Bill and Kerry AND Miriam for a great interview.
I somehow "know" that she "KNOWS!" and the one thing that really rang true"to me" was/is many have "something" and are just "Waiting" for the time to all stand up and come forward.

[mudra]

As an answer to King Lear's question ,

When Myriam mentioned the different worlds in the interview and them being part of some change in Consciousness , this immediately made me think of Ian's Lungold very good lectures on the Mayan Calendar and evolution of consciousness.Ian explains well how consciousness is undergoing different worlds whose cycles are becoming shorter and shorter , to finally end in 2012.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread221338/pg1

In the interview I specially liked the idea that we have a choice and that the responsability we have is to educate ourselves spiritually.
Spirit is where it all starts from.

kindness

mudra

[voltron]

My download also stopped halfway through. I hope they get this fixed soon. I know they are pretty busy so I understand. No blame here. Pray for everyone.

[mntruthseeker]

There are many aliens that live underground and the dark ones work with our leaders. There are bad and good aliens same as humans.

In fact its been talked about quite a bit in stories by whistle blowers. They are responsible for doing much killings.

[Earthwatcher2012]

According to my contact experience, she is 80% not correct about the information she gave. I understood that she had only a couple of contacts...it was not a continuous experience. In 1998, I met with Hopi Elder, Grandfather Martin, at the Sedona Star Knowledge Conference. He knew that two "foreigners" from South America were coming to Sedona and we spoke with him about the ET situation...the information that we got from Grandfather Martin, matched the one we had from our ET contacts down here....It is quite different from Miriam´s....Especially when she talks about Earth creation..very, very different info we have...In time we shall see who´s who...

[conjuredUp]

Welp... now I know why I've been pulled to AZ even though I've never been there or west of Oklahoma.

LOVELOVELOVE,
C

[John aka#404]

Thank you Bill and Kerry for yet another astounding interview.

There are so many things I could say but it would just be a repeat of posts above. I do however want to highlight something I took to heart.

... about 3 months ago I said something to a friend of mine that has strengthened since then. I have repeated it now (totally out of the blue I might add) on about three occasions.

"I see a day in the near future when people are finally going to listen to the 'enough is enough' within themselves and get up, open their doors, start walking down the block, street, alley, etc. and moving as a mass. Where are they going ? All in a movement to save humanity."

When Miriam described it... I was a bit blown away. I haven't even read her book (which of course is on order :) ).

This is the only way I can describe what I have felt over the past few months. I have never felt myself to be some sort of special speaker of any sort... just a guy that has finally accepted that 'enough is enough' and wants to proclaim it.

I know it is global consciousness speaking to each and everyone one of us. It is time that we all really 'stop' and listen. The wave is about to begin, wax up your surfboard... it is time for spring cleaning.

-John aka#404

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[noelnewell]

Unfortunately I was only able to download half of the interview after trying both of the QT formats and now I am trying Windows Media. So while riveted by the first 56 minutes of this interview I am hoping I can hear the rest of it sometime today. So far, from what I have seen and heard, a great interview indeed!

[John aka#404]

Unfortunately I was only able to download half of the interview after trying both of the QT formats and now I am trying Windows Media. So while riveted by the first 56 minutes of this interview I am hoping I can hear the rest of it sometime today. So far, from what I have seen and heard, a great interview indeed!

Noel,

I have a feeling it is due to the volume of people downloading right now. I myself got a shortened version of the MP3 and MOV, but re-tried the MP3 and it was fine. All I could suggest is keep trying. I do know we have some techs looking at it.

-John aka#404

[dragonfly]

According to Drunvalo, there is a meeting upcoming in April 2009. Seems to the likes of which she spoke. I was prompted to post this interview after watching hers.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/drunvalo.htm

He is also based in Sedona. Hummm "smile"

[Operator]

Hi,

Yeah the 4 corner area also did not became clear to me ...
Maybe someone else understands that better than me and can explain ...

I think it's on her website which states that some people feel the book is written about them.
Well I am not a contactee but I indeed got the feeling too !!

I moved out the Netherlands 5 years ago because it didn't feel right ... and now it looks like I am by coincidence (or not ?)
in a radiant zone. And b.t.w. also moved because I wanted to build my own house, which I did.

I have great neighbors, on is a TM teacher. We do a lot together, share knowledge and tools ...
And to hammer the nail straight on the head: I started growing my own veggies a month ago :shocked:

I think this is a very good interview with an important positive directive !
And that's something I needed very much after a lot of gloom and doom news items as well.

So, fellow ripple blowers, let's go and start spread our seeds of joy and true progress :trumpet:

[weezle]

Um, sorry for offtopic, I really don't wanna be a jerk but why must I pay to read the book? It exist in *.pdf version? If so, can someone have it emailed to me, sorry Miriam.

Blessings to all!

[ChooseYourLifeNow]

I was actually in the middle of searching "bulk seed" packs when she said the most important thing is seeds. I took this interview as a "hurry up and buy them" confirmation.

Also, another synchronicity, I decided a couple months ago that I would love to go to Flagstaff in case of an emergency. I live in San Diego and have been to Flagstaff only once, but I LOVED it. Right around the corner from Sedona....interesting...


Love you All,

CYLNow

[ophiuchus]

i don't want to burst anyones bubble,or be disrespectful. to be perfectly candid i find it very difficult to put any confidence in miriam delicado. she seems like a very nice person. i am sorry i can't carry the same opinion as many of you. as a matter of fact i am very disappointed . i expected much more. she has a long way to go before i can give her any credibility. i hope i'm wrong. it won't be the first or last . however,i did find her information about the hopi's interesting. what say you?

[Isa]

Hi Ophiuchus, I don't feel you are being disrespectful at all ~ only honest!

How do you feel about the general message after all else is said and done? About having a choice to walk one path with intent or walk another with little say... all that stuff.

Because to me it doesn't really matter if her story is real, true, a dream, made up, whatever; I only pay attention to what grabs me because that is where my inner guidance is directing me at any given time.

About half way through, or a bit past that, when she began to talk about her current message and how urgent she felt about it, I felt a shift within myself and paid close attention. Much of what she said resonated with me greatly.

I don't spend much time with what may or may not be true ~ I just give it the space to be possible and then look at what it provoked within me when I heard it.

Just thoughts.... ! :biggrin2:

[LOST IN SOUL]

I'm just taking it all in. I struggle not to make assumptions. Bill and Kerry present these interviews and i listen and then i keep searching. I presume that's all ???. I feel an element of disbelief, yet I'm happy to let people tell their story.
Keep on going.

[eris]

Hi ...ophiuchus, i agree abit with you... i watched about 10 mins & struggled with her vibe so much that i haven't gone back to it yet...might give her another go, p'haps the more relavant current info later on will warm me to her...

[clarkkent]

the jury is still out for me on this one. didnt resonate with me to put it mildly. she might be a very sincere person with no bad intentions..but:

this seems like more future blonde nordics coming back in time and talking to blonde people of german heritage (she said her mom was full german)
lets see, nordics seem to like to talk to..micheal st clair (teutonic heritage same as germans) and billy meier (swiss same as st clair) or people in finance (george green)

i still cant shake that they seem like enlightened nazi's from a future timeline where the illuminati get their wish of a master race and a slave class (the greys, which as she said led her to the blondes -kinda like a slave going out and fetching something for the owner..)

i think ill believe them when i see some future puerto ricans or enlightened black people in funky robes with big afros come back with the same message and talk to someone not of german/teutonic descent.

why dont we have red or purple aliens telling us this info or more bizzare or light/energy beings? theres probably thousands of species watching us, why are their only greys and blondes interfering with us, at least in this manner?
and if you believe dan burisch and that they are from the future why didnt BLONDES come back and help us first? my idea is that the blondes might be the "masters" and the greys the biorobotic "slaves" or servants. my guess is that maybe the slaves came back to prevent the nordics from ruling in a benevolent gesture, then the "masters" caught up with them in our present and took over the job of making SURE we create their future.

also the contactees that speak with "energy beings" report they talk more about "ascension" and spirituality etc. not forgone cataclysms.
dr steven greer's contacts apparantly are all sorts of races on the same ship and none of them identifies where or "whom" they are or what they are to be called.
he certainly is more credible in my eyes especially since he is now spearheading private sector zero-point energy which could literally transform our world to be more in harmony without having to depopulate the globe.

besides id rather believe in him and what he's doing as opposed to people telling us the "end" is near and to head for the hills. didnt marcia schafer say that her contacts say there might be different realities for different individuals. which would mean YOU or on YOUR timeline based largely on where your at spiritually and what you believe is in store for you.
she also said "live for life, dont live for death" which is what "radiant" zones and safe places seem like (a place to live in fear of doom or at least EXPECT doom)

jim jones had positive things to say and harmonious spiritual things, but he too preached end times and obviously we all know what happened to him and his followers, for me im not drinking this particular kool-aid.:biggrin2:


food for thought.

if they come here and plant the thought of our destruction, surely we can all be worried about it and consciously co create it.

for now im not buying any of these nordic messages on the face value that theyre good (remember hitler was a vegetarian...you can still be enlightened and have an agenda)

i also didnt buy the planets origin and that blonde haired blue eyed people created us and that they were bummed out with their failed experiments (grotesque creatures=dinosaurs? theyre no more grotesque than anything else, im supposed to believe they sat around for 60 million years hoping they turned into something worthy?) also her messianic "the world will know when i do" ..really? the world will know when you dig up something you buried when you were a kid? c'mon...i think she of course had many many truths and positive things to say (again so did jim jones) theres just too many red flags going off for me on this one.

-kyle

[Merlyn]

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[Arcane Son]

First impressions - She seemed genuine. That said most of her information was nothing that hasn't been said countless times over by other spiritual sources and contactees. Not that it diminishes her sharings in any way. I was hoping for some real specifics that was unique to her case.

A few questions that I was left unsure of from the interview. Is she still in contact with them? Has she had a recent contact?

The speculation that comet 17p/Holmes could be the Blue Star Kachina of Hopi prophecy is interesting. I've heard that correlation mentioned once before from Drunvalo in an interview. Any readers that aren't familiar with that comet and prophecy should do a little research on that. Last year the comet expanded into a huge glowing blue sphere that was larger than our sun. I believe for a breif moment it was the largest object in our solar system. Very interesting!


Comet 17P/Holmes Info from wiki:


In only 42 hours in October 2007, the comet brightened from a magnitude of about 17 to about 2.8. This represents a change of brightness by a factor of about half a million and is the largest known outburst by a comet.

On November 9, 2007 the coma, the thin dissipating dust ball around the comet, was found to be the largest object in the solar system, with a diameter greater than that of the Sun.[1] (Though by Solar System standards, the mass of the comet is minuscule.)

[bodzoyfa]

I believe she believes her information, but for me she definitely didnt resonate like many of the other Camelot interviewees.

I'm not entirely sure as the benevolence of the blondes.

I think her overall message is definitely a positive one, but there were some details that just got skipped over that had a darker tone to them (i.e., the horrific underground bases that she was told was VERY dangerous for her to go). I mean thats on earth, our planet, so tell us the whole truth.

A lot of info though so maybe an oversight.

And the seeds piece was definitely something that needed to be mentioned. To me, this was the single most important part of this interview.

Please be sure and buy "heirloom" seeds and not "hybridized" seeds. The hybridized seeds will not produce fertile seeds at all. Think that was on purpose?

I will look for some links and post here again.

Cheers

[Jacqui D]

I have just finished watching this amazing interview, well what can i say, i feel this woman is sincere and everything she spoke of resonated with my own feelings and beliefs.
many issues she touched on sent tinglings down my spine because i knew and understood everything as she said it.
I have been waiting to hear this for a very long time now and Miriam explained and divulged what my inner thoughts and my own spirituality has been screaming out to me for so long.
There are many questiones i would like to ask her regarding these elders of this planet and how our genetics play a role in our being here today.

She has a warm loving heart and it comes across in this interview it would be interesting to see if anyone here on this site felt a connection with her, i certainly did, as the video progressed i gradually saw her facial appearance changing and wonder if anyone else noticed this, perhaps i was seeing her as she really is not as this earthly vechicle that she resides in today but of her true spirtual self.
She has given me great hope for the future and this site has helped so many i think in understanding what our needs are now and how we can move forward to get this thing moving along.
Our time is short so lets get together everyone and lift this world into another level of understanding.:wub2:

[crowmirror]

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[JohnWdoe]

She is very interesting.... I myself have had personal experince exactly like her and found that very odd.

I never EVER walked on a craft (to my knowledge) but have seen the big guys, my mother was actually chased by them a few weeks ago and she hurt her herself running from them.

Those big guys are real and its kind of surreal when you see them, my mother was terrified by them and to this day i still don't like that.

[Olam]

OK, a couple of things:
I saw the interview on youtube: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4Q1jKTNVI
that works all the way thru.
As in all interviews of this kind, I pick and choose to keep in my knowledge bag what I think is relevent to me.
For me, asking entities/aliens/spirits to look at me in the eye and know that I can decide after that if I want to continue the "conversation" was a great revelation. You realize the power you have, I mean its just so easy to get flabergasted and "weak" when confronted to this. I myself have never had these experiences but Im sure it would be easy to get "starstruck".

Also, the fact that lots of humans on earth right now have some previledged knowledge and that we should get together when the time is right was great news.
Lastly, the seeds issue for me was the best part. I see this inspiring me to start something about that idea, maybe a co-op of some sort that has one goal and that would be to have a group of people get together to produce seeds and be self sufficient in vegetables also. I will have to start and educate myself about producing seeds and growing vegetables.

[LOST IN SOUL]

I hope Bill and Kerry can do a little searching in Australia... The aboriginal people in Australia have 40000 (40 thousand) year history.
P.S. i listened to miriam interview again ... gosh it's a task ... i struggle to trust ...?

[Arcane Son]

For me, asking entities/aliens/spirits to look at me in the eye and know that I can decide after that if I want to continue the "conversation" was a great revelation. You realize the power you have, I mean its just so easy to get flabergasted and "weak" when confronted to this. I myself have never had these experiences but Im sure it would be easy to get "starstruck".



Yes that was a valuable sugestion she shared I agree. The eyes are the doorway to the soul. Another Contactee Alex Collier was told that you need to claim your personal space when dealing with any being that isn't human and demand that they respect it and if you don't trust them to tell them to leave your space and mean it. Not so easy to do when in the moment but important to understand for anyone who may be thrust into that expierence.

[BlueSojourn]

This is only my third post and I probably won't make any friends with it, but I gotta say that this interview was a huge disappointment (and I've watched/listend to almost all of them). In fact, I actually had to struggle to stay focused and awake while listening to Ms. Delicado's emotionless, monotonous and decidedly nebulous presentation. Almost immediately, I had a gut feeling that she was being, shall we say, disingenuous.

As far as I could tell, and aside from a couple of completely unverifiable references to events that supposedly occurred in Earth's deep dark past, she brought absolutely nothing new to the table. She simply unveiled a bland potpourri of things that are already there for anyone to partake of; things that have already been recycled and regurgitated countless times all over the internet and in print.

She kept prefacing various elements of her story as being "fascinating," and yet, her dead-pan manner belied any sense of fascination, or even excitement. Nothing she said was even remotely so, IMO. Vague and ambiguous, Yes. But "fascinating?" Well, maybe to her it was.

[Dominic]

Wow, this interview is really good.

The time is now.

Great stuff.

Peace and love will prevail.

[JohnWdoe]

This is only my third post and I probably won't make any friends with it, but I gotta say that this interview was a huge disappointment (and I've watched/listend to almost all of them). In fact, I actually had to struggle to stay focused and awake while listening to Ms. Delicado's emotionless, monotonous and decidedly nebulous presentation. Almost immediately, I had a gut feeling that she was being, shall we say, disingenuous.

As far as I could tell, and aside from a couple of completely unverifiable references to events that supposedly occurred in Earth's deep dark past, she brought absolutely nothing new to the table. She simply unveiled a bland potpourri of things that are already there for anyone to partake of; things that have already been recycled and regurgitated countless times all over the internet and in print.

She kept prefacing various elements of her story as being "fascinating," and yet, her dead-pan manner belied any sense of fascination, or even excitement. Nothing she said was even remotely so, IMO. Vague and ambiguous, Yes. But "fascinating?" Well, maybe to her it was.

It seems she didnt "plan" this out or muck it up like so many others we have seen, if you sat me down i don't think many would find it super exciting but if you could see something weird with me i think it will hit the mark.

I think you are right about her speech though, she needs to keep focused and get into detail - i myself have realized this and keep things simple and always going forward. It helps get the message across and keep someone wanting the next bit.

EDIT**

Read closely what i posted above at the end ""The next bit"", alot of good "story" tellers understand this and easily make a good buck off keeping you waiting (almost like a junkie...) Miriam on the other hand is quite the opposite i don't think she wants your money.

[Stabris8]

Thanks Bill and Kerry for this interview...I have visited Miriam's website; and after viewing the interview have concluded she is sincere in her views. I find it unusual about seeing the "Keepers" as in the store, car, etc. and found it strange she did not elaborate on why. What is the purpose of wondering why she was there? Or just the 'stare' while driving a jeep on a busy road? Then there was the reference to the "dark" underground as well. I understand it may be unsettling for her to talk about, but I would be more in-depth as to WHY and how it concerns the human race; especially if those creatures are so dangerous! I would have liked for her to detail those events more clearly.

[quest]

Yes that was a valuable sugestion she shared I agree. The eyes are the doorway to the soul. Another Contactee Alex Collier was told that you need to claim your personal space when dealing with any being that isn't human and demand that they respect it and if you don't trust them to tell them to leave your space and mean it. Not so easy to do when in the moment but important to understand for anyone who may be thrust into that expierence.

my thoughts one this subject were; would'nt a sincere, spiritual being not always look into your eyes if speaking to you, and give space?

btw, i did notice her sanpakueyes too. and i see the points clarkkent is mentioning.

anyway, respect and appreciation, de message resonated.

[Myra]

the jury is still out for me on this one. didnt resonate with me to put it mildly. she might be a very sincere person with no bad intentions..but:

this seems like more future blonde nordics coming back in time and talking to blonde people of german heritage (she said her mom was full german)
lets see, nordics seem to like to talk to..micheal st clair (teutonic heritage same as germans) and billy meier (swiss same as st clair) or people in finance (george green)

i still cant shake that they seem like enlightened nazi's from a future timeline where the illuminati get their wish of a master race and a slave class (the greys, which as she said led her to the blondes -kinda like a slave going out and fetching something for the owner..)

i think ill believe them when i see some future puerto ricans or enlightened black people in funky robes with big afros come back with the same message and talk to someone not of german/teutonic descent.

why dont we have red or purple aliens telling us this info or more bizzare or light/energy beings? theres probably thousands of species watching us, why are their only greys and blondes interfering with us, at least in this manner?
and if you believe dan burisch and that they are from the future why didnt BLONDES come back and help us first? my idea is that the blondes might be the "masters" and the greys the biorobotic "slaves" or servants. my guess is that maybe the slaves came back to prevent the nordics from ruling in a benevolent gesture, then the "masters" caught up with them in our present and took over the job of making SURE we create their future.

also the contactees that speak with "energy beings" report they talk more about "ascension" and spirituality etc. not forgone cataclysms.
dr steven greer's contacts apparantly are all sorts of races on the same ship and none of them identifies where or "whom" they are or what they are to be called.
he certainly is more credible in my eyes especially since he is now spearheading private sector zero-point energy which could literally transform our world to be more in harmony without having to depopulate the globe.

besides id rather believe in him and what he's doing as opposed to people telling us the "end" is near and to head for the hills. didnt marcia schafer say that her contacts say there might be different realities for different individuals. which would mean YOU or on YOUR timeline based largely on where your at spiritually and what you believe is in store for you.
she also said "live for life, dont live for death" which is what "radiant" zones and safe places seem like (a place to live in fear of doom or at least EXPECT doom)

jim jones had positive things to say and harmonious spiritual things, but he too preached end times and obviously we all know what happened to him and his followers, for me im not drinking this particular kool-aid.:biggrin2:


food for thought.

if they come here and plant the thought of our destruction, surely we can all be worried about it and consciously co create it.

for now im not buying any of these nordic messages on the face value that theyre good (remember hitler was a vegetarian...you can still be enlightened and have an agenda)

i also didnt buy the planets origin and that blonde haired blue eyed people created us and that they were bummed out with their failed experiments (grotesque creatures=dinosaurs? theyre no more grotesque than anything else, im supposed to believe they sat around for 60 million years hoping they turned into something worthy?) also her messianic "the world will know when i do" ..really? the world will know when you dig up something you buried when you were a kid? c'mon...i think she of course had many many truths and positive things to say (again so did jim jones) theres just too many red flags going off for me on this one.

-kyle

Not to worry. I'm sure that the Yugoslavian side will balance all of that out. :wink2:

[Pundit_Snooty]

Hey All,

Just finished watching the interview and my thoughts kind of kept going back to ... believe it not ... David Wilcock. I think it was in the Futuretalk video (where DW was wearing that gold sash or whatever) he mentioned that Project Camelot seems to draw a lot of negative energy (through no fault of their own) in the interviews they conduct.

Don't get me wrong--this was an excellent and professionally conducted interview, but I was forced to walk away with that doom and gloom vibration which just doesn't augur too well with me anymore. I absolutely believe people like George Green and Miriam Delicado or Alex Jones believe the things they uncover, but the idea of this "world calamity ... we're all going to be burnt alive in an agonizing Armageddon" just doesn't feel right. (I would HIGHLY RECCOMMEND watching the channeled messages of a British lady named 'MagentaPixie2012' on youtube).

Project Camelot should actually take this as a compliment because it means whatever higher beings are manipulating cosmic consciousness are purposefully targeting Bill and Kerry in order to make their audience (which is growing by leaps and bounds pretty much daily) to: LIVE IN FEAR.

And if I may be so bold as to say: THE ALIENS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE WRONG. So what if some Nordic ET from a far-off place in the Milky Way "sees" world calamity (?) ... ... for all we know ... Sven from Nordic-ville might be wrong himself. The take-home message from Ra and the Collective Entity of 9 Winged Beings which have been channeling through MagentaPixie, plus the newest Burish testimony all point to the hopless Armageddon scenario timeline hovering near a probability of zero. And I think I orient myself toward these messages. :thumb_yello:

[clarkkent]

im surprised more people arent taken aback with all the "coincidences" ive pointed out, not that i have great insight, but is noone else dumbfounded with these facts about "nordic blondes" or "P52 orions" or that she even said what i theorized about the greys as being more "like robots"

isnt ANYONE wigged out that blondehaired blueeyed beings are feeding info to certain contactees from a certain genetic backround? (swiss or german)

does NO ONE find it odd that the illuminati/nazi's have envisioned this exact master race/servant relationship? svali the illumunati defector has also said they play "concentration camp" as kids and have killed minorities at times in their rituals.

i copied and pasted this

"
Michael Mott describes the attributes of the underground people. Mostly Reptilian humanoids or " fair " and Nordic: They are telepathic with superior mental powers. Can shape-shift and create illusions: They want to interbreed with humans and need human blood, flesh and reproductive materials; They have advanced technology, they can FLY by themselves or with their technology, want to keep their true idenity a secret, they covertly manipulate events on the surface world.

Hitler said this to an aide: "in the future there will be a class of overlords, after them the rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races, the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. The new man is living among us now. I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him."



i have heard no decent theories to explain any of my questions, most people just ignore what im saying.

[Isa]

She kept prefacing various elements of her story as being "fascinating," and yet, her dead-pan manner belied any sense of fascination, or even excitement. Nothing she said was even remotely so, IMO. Vague and ambiguous, Yes. But "fascinating?" Well, maybe to her it was.

LOL BlueSojourn ~ don't know why that tickled me so much, hehe. I guess it just goes to show that it really makes a difference as to who is doing the observing ~ thus the whole '"resonates-with-me-or-not"' thing, no? I've had a few bizarro experiences of my own so EVERYBODY'S wild stories fascinate me. Really. I once met a woman who told me she was a unicorn trapped in a human body. Do I believe she was a unicorn? No, but I also don't believe she is NOT a unicorn. I only know what I experience. In my experience, Miriam's outlook makes some sense. Where it came from or who gave her the ideas, etc doesn't really matter to me. Some of the things she said mirror my own experience so I appreciate this.

I also appreciate all the other perspectives of her discussed here ~ I am fascinated by them as well ~ and thanks for sharing ~ I hope you continue to do so OFTEN!

:flowers2:

[Suriel]

For those of you that only downloaded half the video, you can watch this video on youtube here (http://ca.youtube.com/user/jagbodhi?ob=1).

Peace

[Isa]

ClarkKent, I have read your posts with great interest and can see why this whole Nordic thing would be alarming to some. However, who is to say that all of these types are the same as each other? Are all humans the same? As she said, she would not want to be judged according to the ways many human beings act. That's like some alien being running into Charles Manson and then thinking all humans are like that. Maybe others have run into Nordic types who appear evil, cunning or whatever. Maybe to see them as Keepers of the Earth is simply her perspective based on the couple of them that she met and what they told her. Who knows who any of these beings are ~ they could all be the SAME being that just manifests itself into many parts in order to be perceived in various ways.... haha, now I am off on a tangent though....

Just know please that your opinion and questions are SO VALUED ~ I appreciate reading your posts and want to know what people are truly thinking ~ YES for sure!!!

:thumb_yello:

[clarkkent]

thanks, i agree you cant judge everybody by a few bad apples, i just think there is plenty of evidence that is disturbing regarding the "nordics" and if there were good and bad ones youd think the good ones would make that distinction and say "hey some of us are up to no good"

the idea of "safezones" is inherently fearful. id rather get destroyed in a massive tidal wave helping someone or comforting someone or helping a dog, i dont care, running to a place with other people scared for their own lives seems like your stuck in that lower chakra of survival.

not for me.

-kyle

[PodWORLD]

You made a good point Clark. I personally draw the line at German = Nazi.

I'm not convinced that these contactees are infallible shall we say?

I checked the wikipedia entry for a lil basic info and pasted two parts below.

Full article here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_aliens


While Greys make up 75 percent of all reported alien encounters in the US they appear in fewer than 20 percent of European reports. As such, Europeans are several times more likely to report encountering a Nordic alien than a Grey. The nation with the highest proportion of reported encounters with Nordic aliens is the United Kingdom.[12][2][3]

Speaking during their 1994 convention in Washington, CSICOP representatives noted that British contact reports typically spoke of Nordic aliens, and did not include Greys in any number until 1987, when Whitley Strieber's novel Communion became a best seller there


Since some reports have described Nordics and Greys occupying the same crafts, some researchers have speculated that they might actually be a type of human-Grey hybrid.[8] Alternatively, they may be tools of psychological manipulation on behalf of the Greys.[8] Professor of History Dr. Jacobs, with a Ph.D. in Intellectual History from the University of Wisconsin [9] about Ufology[10]... [says] [t]he first step is to combine egg, sperm and Grey alien genetic material.[11] The result of this union, hybrid.[11]1, has been grown partially in a female human host and partly in a gestation device.[11] The next generation offspring (hybrid.2) still look mostly alien with the large black eyes and no whites, pointed chins and high cheekbones;[11] hair is sparse and their bodies are just a little larger.[11] The next stage which may be hybrid.3 results from a human egg and sperm and adding genetic material from hybrid.2s.[11] These beings look very human, may be able to "pass" as human if wearing sunglasses since they still have too much black in their eyes and too little in the eyebrow and eyelash department.[11] Any further stages in the hybridization process and these beings could easily pass as human.[11] Their eyes are normal - often blue, skin color is humanlike though a little pale[11]. Their hair is generally blond, but most do not have body or pubic hair though their reproductive organs look and function normally.[11] Their bodies which can be thin or muscular are never overweight.[11] It is these late-stage hybrids that abductees refer to as the "Nordics" says Dr. Jacobs.[11]


Cheers, Chris.

[pilot]

im surprised more people arent taken aback with all the "coincidences" ive pointed out, not that i have great insight, but is noone else dumbfounded with these facts about "nordic blondes" or "P52 orions" or that she even said what i theorized about the greys as being more "like robots"

isnt ANYONE wigged out that blondehaired blueeyed beings are feeding info to certain contactees from a certain genetic backround? (swiss or german)

does NO ONE find it odd that the illuminati/nazi's have envisioned this exact master race/servant relationship? svali the illumunati defector has also said they play "concentration camp" as kids and have killed minorities at times in their rituals.

i copied and pasted this

"
Michael Mott describes the attributes of the underground people. Mostly Reptilian humanoids or " fair " and Nordic: They are telepathic with superior mental powers. Can shape-shift and create illusions: They want to interbreed with humans and need human blood, flesh and reproductive materials; They have advanced technology, they can FLY by themselves or with their technology, want to keep their true idenity a secret, they covertly manipulate events on the surface world.

Hitler said this to an aide: "in the future there will be a class of overlords, after them the rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races, the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. The new man is living among us now. I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him."



i have heard no decent theories to explain any of my questions, most people just ignore what im saying.

The question is when can we trust and rely on each other? Take the Aliens out of the equation for a second-if there are both benign and malevolent forces at work from other places/dimensions etc then ok what can we do??

Living in fear of men and/or et's is not the answer. The personal responsibility message is the key, do that. We all die. If something really major and difficult needs to happen to wake us up to who we are, then so be it. I would rather that happen than slouching along at this rate, while we poison ourselves slowly with materialism and war. Regardless of what any whistleblower has to say, I personally will not allow myself to be fearful-it serves no purpose other than to delay the dream of becoming. Eff that.

I'm very grateful for this forum, it is making it possible to network and get inspired to get ready for the changes that are happening all around us. Let's not ride the fear train. Self-fulfilling prophesy and all that.

[Phtha]

I'll start by saying that although I do believe in ET's, I disbelieve 95% of the stuff that's floating around out there concerning our otherworldy companions, most of this information is either rehashed or seems to have no real foundation whatsoever, so in this case I guess you could say I'mma tough sell.

I wasn't sold with this interview either, before I lay out the reasons why, I just want to say quickly that I don't mean to stir any angry emotions in anyone here, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I respect anyone elses opinions and I also respect Mariam. Now, onto the reasons:

Mariam started off with excuses about how she doesn't want to be doing this disclosure so to speak.
A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth. Whats to fear? A person who is truly “spiritual” for lack of a better term, and who's speaking 100% truth would have no quams about how others would judge them. Especially if the message was of great importance.


On an emotional level, I just didn't get any feelings of genuine compassion from the speaker. Infact I picked up a lot of arrogant undertones due to many statements such as “no one is perfect, not even myself”, or “even I have problems with this stuff”. These type of statements tend to suggest she raises herself above “normal” people. Having a high opinion of oneself is important, but should never be based on comparison of others.


Finaly, nothing new was said that can't be found somewhere on the internet or in books. Nothing truly genuine. Of course this does not mean that she is not being honest, it's just a fact.

Despite this I do think Mariam is a great person at the end of the day, she had a positive message, aside from the scary nazi blonde hair blue eye resonance as others picked up on, and she does not mean to portray any truly menevolent harm that I detected.

I think the best lesson to be learned from all of these interviews, is we should never take anyones word or views as absolute truth. That's something we must experience on a personal level.

[Jon Carling]

I too have grown uncomfortable with all this destruction talk.

Positivity and calm are key...planning the end can create it.

We are energy and have nothing to fear.

If I fall into the pacific, I will endure, and so will you. Its the illusion of endpoints that have created this cloud of fear that directs things to the negative reality.

[Martian Tigress]

I second those who felt put off by her vibe. I could not get through the whole interview in one go because of it, and I found her constant self-referencing ('Even I find all this just so fascinating' and the like, said over and over) very distancing. The interview seemed to be mostly about her own reaction to her own story, and she came across to me as someone very much in love with the idea of 'being a messenger'. I would really like to see some Reverse Speech analysis of the interview, to find out if she is 'congruent' both ways.

I have heard her interviewed once before-- Alfred Webre had her on his Exopolitics radio program last season-- and she said nothing new this time around. She is also a day late and a dollar short when it comes to the whole non-hybridized seeds issue. Horticulturalists around the world have been concerned about this for tens of years, and the heirloom seed folks have been breeding, collecting and trading for a good 20 years-- they have several sites/groups on the Internet and are easy to find. I know this because in the course of my job at the public library, I have helped people to find sources of heirloom seeds well in advance of Ms. Delicado touting their importance.

I also second ClarkKent's 'conveniently-Nordic-aliens/Nazi-master-race stereotype' musings. He's definitely got a point, and frankly, I am fed up with the whole simpleton mythology that says little gray beings from (maybe) Zeta Reticuli are inherently evil while the blond, blue-eyed, white-skinned, muscle-bound Plejaran studmuffins with recycled biblical/Egyptian names are the (conveniently human-looking and racially pure) good guys. If there is anything worthy of immediate careful scrutiny amidst the mountain of stuff that has been said about Skypeople, this particular viewpoint is the front-runner.

Because I did not download the video (I just went for the audio since folks were having download problems), I cannot speak to the 'sanpaku eyes' issue, but if she is showing them (and it is not simply an artifact of camera angle) it is important, and not in a good way.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

[clarkkent]

also to make a clear point--im not saying germans=nazi's
i dont know how anyone could get that from what ive posted.

i just find it INTERESTING that these blondies seem to contact people of germanic/teutonic descent.

and i certainly dont fear "nordic blondes" im just saying we all have access to a LOT of info, and these are the dots that im connecting regarding nordics-greys-nazis-illuminati-timelines-future selves-disasters etc.

i didnt see anyone else bringing up these points so i thought i would. and still i havent heard a decent theory to knock mine, i would WELCOME it, because if something made sense to me that refutes or answers these seeming coincidences that would be comforting.

even bill who im sure is more aware than most of us in this field said my questions were hard for him to answer, but id love to hear his 2 cents!

:)
kyle

[Darren Swisher]

I am having vibrations or feeling that there is something weird about this interview, not sure what it is but i left it feeling, for lack of a better term "weird" and drained of energy.

Anyone else? Is there something subliminal?

[lightwalker]

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[lightwalker]

I think this lady's story is valid and sincere. In my evaluation when she truly recognizes her personal power she will then know that no one needs saving or saviors. And when she recognizes that it is all her...nothing is outside of her, she may just write another book.

There are infinite possibilities and/or probabilities for me to choose from. Miriam's prediction info may just be stuff from 1988. The energies have changed a lot since then. I already know in "My Universe" what planet Earth I am on for this time of great change......and it is a pretty nice place.

What I'd really like to do is interview Kerry. I am sure there is a great story there.

lightwalker

[Cookie]

I just finished watching this vid... The message she was 'given' resonated with me greatly... I was given a large flood of information almost identical to her's in 1991, although, I didn't receive it on board a space craft. My experience was more telepathic in nature and happened in my livingroom .. I've heard all the stories about the tall Nordics and their collusion with the greys etc... In my remembrance, I've never seen or communicated with a tall blond. When she talked about families being monitored for many generations (forever?) it gave me a cold chill... I'm a life long abductee and so are my kids and their kids...

This whole thing need to be re-evaluated... speaking for my own personal experiences...

[JohnWdoe]

Hey All,

Just finished watching the interview and my thoughts kind of kept going back to ... believe it not ... David Wilcock. I think it was in the Futuretalk video (where DW was wearing that gold sash or whatever) he mentioned that Project Camelot seems to draw a lot of negative energy (through no fault of their own) in the interviews they conduct.

Don't get me wrong--this was an excellent and professionally conducted interview, but I was forced to walk away with that doom and gloom vibration which just doesn't augur too well with me anymore. I absolutely believe people like George Green and Miriam Delicado or Alex Jones believe the things they uncover, but the idea of this "world calamity ... we're all going to be burnt alive in an agonizing Armageddon" just doesn't feel right. (I would HIGHLY RECCOMMEND watching the channeled messages of a British lady named 'MagentaPixie2012' on youtube).

Project Camelot should actually take this as a compliment because it means whatever higher beings are manipulating cosmic consciousness are purposefully targeting Bill and Kerry in order to make their audience (which is growing by leaps and bounds pretty much daily) to: LIVE IN FEAR.

And if I may be so bold as to say: THE ALIENS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE WRONG. So what if some Nordic ET from a far-off place in the Milky Way "sees" world calamity (?) ... ... for all we know ... Sven from Nordic-ville might be wrong himself. The take-home message from Ra and the Collective Entity of 9 Winged Beings which have been channeling through MagentaPixie, plus the newest Burish testimony all point to the hopless Armageddon scenario timeline hovering near a probability of zero. And I think I orient myself toward these messages. :thumb_yello:

I understand you completly and realized some people have "********" stories to try and make people move, this i do NOT agree with and even more so i dislike greatly when someone uses Bill and Kerrys platform to spread doom and gloom. We have seen it enough and think we understand something is coming in the future, i see alot of people from wide aspects to narrow minded but i have a feeling if we ALL were together it would be magical.

I would love to meet many people on this forum and all of us sit back and talk (imagine that hahaha!) we would have so much information and experince to share with each other... What it comes down to is who will fight each other? Will an Objectivist battle a Lightseeker just to fofill his Philosophy? I know i sure wouldnt if we all could get along.

Harmony is over used within the fields we speak, we simply need to leave doom gloom and even harmony for they are just words to spark us, what is real is when we all stand together for the better cause of us all.

Alex Jones is a percfect example of someone helping the wrong way... yes he has some good information and ideas but his attitude is much to... raging. Lets just all be pals and stick together.

Id catch you a fish anyday :)

[PodWORLD]

I'll happily withdraw my erroneous point and offer apology.

I pasted the basic info from wiki because there it says UK has most reported
Nordic contact although it is more of a European than US phenomonon.

The article also states which I have read elsewhere that the other side of the coin might be true in that the greys control/create the Nordics.

Personally I ignore contactee info as I find it distracting. You either believe the person or you don't.

I'm convinced UFO's exist but I'm not convinced that about all the contact/channelling claims.

I might be wrong but I think ST Clair said he was Celtic in origin in an earlier Camelot thread which was wiped.

As I said earlier I agree that I don't like caucasian alien stuff and the people that claim it aren't going to change the world as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers, Chris.

[JohnWdoe]

I just finished watching this vid... The message she was 'given' resonated with me greatly... I was given a large flood of information almost identical to her's in 1991, although, I didn't receive it on board a space craft. My experience was more telepathic in nature and happened in my livingroom .. I've heard all the stories about the tall Nordics and their collusion with the greys etc... In my remembrance, I've never seen or communicated with a tall blond. When she talked about families being monitored for many generations (forever?) it gave me a cold chill... I'm a life long abductee and so are my kids and their kids...

This whole thing need to be re-evaluated... speaking for my own personal experiences...

I stand beside you!

[JohnWdoe]

I'll happily withdraw my erroneous point and offer apology.

I pasted the basic info from wiki because there it says UK has most reported
Nordic contact although it is more of a European than US phenomonon.

The article also states which I have read elsewhere that the other side of the coin might be true in that the greys control/create the Nordics.

Personally I ignore contactee info as I find it distracting. You either believe the person or you don't.

I'm convinced UFO's exist but I'm not convinced that about all the contact/channelling claims.

I might be wrong but I think ST Clair said he was Celtic in origin in an earlier Camelot thread which was wiped.

As I said earlier I agree that I don't like caucasian alien stuff and the people that claim it aren't going to change the world as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers, Chris.

I love how many opinions this forum allows me to view because my friend you are 100% correct about

"""As I said earlier I agree that I don't like caucasian alien stuff and the people that claim it aren't going to change the world as far as I'm concerned."""

Humanity needs to band together and even me have seen this but i always live here and now and choose to use Philosophy before any contactee story.

Humanity needs to stand up for itself and i fear some are to far off within the realm of UFOS and waiting for "October 14th", we need to do it ourselfs and the more time we waste the less time we have to make an impact.

Cheers my friend! :thumb_yello:

[JohnWdoe]

I think this lady's story is valid and sincere. In my evaluation when she truly recognizes her personal power she will then know that no one needs saving or saviors. And when she recognizes that it is all her...nothing is outside of her, she may just write another book.

There are infinite possibilities and/or probabilities for me to choose from. Miriam's prediction info may just be stuff from 1988. The energies have changed a lot since then. I already know in "My Universe" what planet Earth I am on for this time of great change......and it is a pretty nice place.

What I'd really like to do is interview Kerry. I am sure there is a great story there.

lightwalker

We do need to interview Kerry!! Id love to see Bill interview Kerry on her life and story, it never crossed my mind oddly...

I will leave the spamming back a bit now as i have had my say :) enjoy your day my friend! :bleh:

[Jon Carling]

I totally agree with clark kent.

Your theory completely fits all the provable plans for a genetically engineered future human. Perhaps, in the future, today's elite will be seen as great thinkers and leaders, who secured the earth for the sustainable population.
The illuminated few who had the foresight to kill-off the planet and keep a genetically superior human (future elite), assisted by the slaves (future us). That makes the most sense.

I would add clark, that maybe the result of all the manipulation will actually remove the collective "soul" of the human race. So technically, this future race is not human at all.

When things reach a perceived "critical" point, I think the collective human soul will just simply move on, to another reality, perhaps where we all make up a giant human, who lives in a world of singular giant beings...one giant cat, one giant bird, etc...

and all that are left are human "replicas"
and perhaps this is the ultimate answer to us being considered "containers"
And this would explain the cold hearted nature of alot of their activity.

I also have this feeling that our souls are the thing that keeps us from being able to time travel...it locks us in a dimension, until it "dies", then it shifts to another...like a music scale.

hmm?

[igniop]

I must disagree with a lot of you people here saying that Miriam is trying to spread a message of doom and gloom or of fear or that he story is incencere.
Yes, I also had a hard time with her in the first few minutes of the interview and yes she is not perfect and she might not speak so well as others and obviously she has had a hard and strange life and she is as we say - just human.
She does have a very strong eyes and she seems to me like a very old and strong being - sometimes hard to take! but with pure and good intentions imo!

I dont think one must take this interview "word by word" and
when one takes this interview and peel the "shell" off , the core that is being revealed is , in my opinion, absolutely a strong , important message (of good!)
I was pretty overwhelmed by her words towards the end and also when we talked about the gathering of similiar people!

as for the whole nordic & grays thing - it mght be important but is that what really matters right now?

[Rebel4Life]

I am just going to say this. I didn't finish the interview the vibes she was sending out seemed weird...Anyways on a different note I agree with ya Clark i find it funny how the nordics seem to appear to german descent etc. But there are other contactees like Carlos Diaz here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq3n6rf5nLw&feature=related Idk but he might be german descent >_> what do you guys think?

Peace~
Rebel4Life

[Jon Carling]

I must disagree with a lot of you people here saying that Miriam is trying to spread a message of doom and gloom or of fear or that he story is incencere.
Yes, I also had a hard time with her in the first few minutes of the interview and yes she is not perfect and obviously she has had a hard and strange life and she is as we say - just human.
She does have a very strong eyes and she seems to me like a very old and strong being - sometimes hard to take! but with pure and good intentions imo!

I dont think one must take this interview "word by word" and
when one takes this interview and peel the "shell" off , the core that is being revealed is , in my opinion, absolutely a strong , important message (of good!)
I was pretty overwhelmed by her words towards the end and also when we talked about the gathering of similiar people!

as for the whole nordic & grays thing - it mght be important but is that what really matters right now?

It matters because if they are negative, they could be creating a mentality in us that creates the worst scenario...I think we are creating all these events with belief and expectation...and who better to manipulate but the most intuitive of the bunch.

[igniop]

It matters because if they are negative, they could be creating a mentality in us that creates the worst scenario...I think we are creating all these events with belief and expectation...and who better to manipulate but the most intuitive of the bunch.

and its up to us to believe and excpect a positive outcome even though!

[tacodog]

Clark Kent: I do share your concern with the Nordic ET contact. However, I do tend to believe that these “Nordics” could be our creators and may think they are our masters (benevolent or not) because they created us; they may have terra formed Earth as well. It is possible that they had a plan for us to follow, and we are not following that plan. When they ignited the spark of life into our biological bodies perhaps they did not know exactly what they had created/co-created, a life form that would have connections to the “Creator” of all that is? and this "Creator" may have other plans for us? Just a thought of mine because it tends to fit with the stories of the Annuaki/War of the Gods story. I do believe Miriam is genuine and can only relate to us what she has been told.

[rustanddust]

I am having vibrations or feeling that there is something weird about this interview, not sure what it is but i left it feeling, for lack of a better term "weird" and drained of energy.

Anyone else? Is there something subliminal?

interesting that you say that.....I've been feeling weirdly tired and sleepy all day today also, after watching this interview in the morning.

I completely agree with clarkkent also.

granted, I've never been into ufos or aliens too much, and haven't done much research into the subject. but almost every prominent/known contactee I've seen and heard about so far are all white people of european descent. some hispanic contactees from south america, yes. but the whole of the ufo/alien/extraterrestral community seems to be whitewashed. (just like the main whole of the political and business worlds are, lol--just a bunch of old, white, straight men, frequently with racist, heterosexist and misogynistic views)

has anyone ever heard of any black people who have had any extraterrestrial experiences or contact? any asians? any indians?

..this is just another personal opinion of mine--the way that the reptilians are percieved seems to parallel racists' views towards minorites and racism in general. I.E. they are all evil and ugly. they hate us. they steal from us. they smell bad. etc etc--they are not seen as individual beings but stereotyped and put into a 'box', generalized as race.

have any of the nordics personally identified themselves? given names?

I mean Alex Collier also identifies reptilians as the 'bad guys' but his friends at least gave their names and actually maintained a relationship of sorts with him.

[Chris Parson]

the idea of "safezones" is inherently fearful. id rather get destroyed in a massive tidal wave helping someone or comforting someone or helping a dog, i dont care, running to a place with other people scared for their own lives seems like your stuck in that lower chakra of survival.

not for me.

-kyle

this is what i'm feeling as well.

[clarkkent]

Clark Kent: I do share your concern with the Nordic ET contact. However, I do tend to believe that these “Nordics” could be our creators and may think they are our masters (benevolent or not) because they created us; they may have terra formed Earth as well. It is possible that they had a plan for us to follow, and we are not following that plan. When they ignited the spark of life into our biological bodies perhaps they did not know exactly what they had created/co-created, a life form that would have connections to the “Creator” of all that is? and this "Creator" may have other plans for us? Just a thought of mine because it tends to fit with the stories of the Annuaki/War of the Gods story. I do believe Miriam is genuine and can only relate to us what she has been told.


i refuse to believe that were created by what hitler called the "uber man" (blonde haired blue eyed)
this is ONE contactees views and i have numerous problems with it and her "messianic" distant/vibe, sure she had postive things to say but its wrapped in FEAR which doesnt work for me.

st clair told me the only places he knows where i can survive (in america or close to it) is the yukon or utah (rockymountains) this is literally "head for the hills" and if thats all these enlightened beings can tell us then its not for me.

her "i have seen the future" struck me as creepy prophet/messianic.
all the ground crew seems to be about is fleeing. guess who also got his followers to move to south america with his admittedly positive/spiritual and "end times" message? jim jones.

end times prophets are to be avoided i think. who cares where you live, focus on your spirituality. its like driving a car and worrying endlessly about where to park, enjoy the ride and focus on who's driving the car.

[MyShadow]

In my evaluation when she truly recognizes her personal power she will then know that no one needs saving or saviors. And when she recognizes that it is all her...nothing is outside of her, she may just write another book.

lightwalker

We all create our own realities, it's as simple and powerful as that. The only boogeyman that's out there is the one your hold in your beliefs - and for some that is necessary to feel that their life has a purpose or a reason for an inspiration for change. That's all good - no judgement here. Some of us just come from another place - where we choose to invest our energies in different directions - from the center outward vs. from always going to the outer to shape who we are.

I have to be honest - I couldn't get past about 15 mins. Some of us coming from the center don't need all of the sensational details of a story to feel someone's message - and who they are becoming.

I hope that others can understand where some of us come from - I know on the surface you may react to our words as you perceive us to be judgemental, critical, debunkers, nonbelievers, or ego. That is not the case - we are just resonating on a different level.

We don't see things as words - we know there is another universal language that we are tapped into. We can be great links here to the intent of Avalon - so as we can see your perspective, I would ask the same of you.

Both are valuable.

MyShadow

[NewParadigmGuy]

has anyone ever heard of any black people who have had any extraterrestrial experiences or contact?

Barney Hill was a famous example...

[333mark333]

Enjoyed the interview

Safezones- I was guided by the universe to be where i am now. If it is not a so called SAFEZONE then it is my karma to experience what i have created.
I am following the signs in MY LIFE.

[truthseekersearching]

I believe Miriam's message was very authentic and relevant to this time of transition. I can tell you that one particular point she emphasized has already manifested with me.

Approximately six weeks ago I received messages to grow a Victory Garden. Not just any garden, but a Victory Garden, which had significance, but I just did not know what it was at the time. If you look up the significance of a victory garden it is interesting in many different ways.

Now, for the record I am a very novice gardener at best and up until recently a workaholic, so this was a very out of character endeavor for me.

I did some research on victory gardens, drug the significant other to home depot for materials to build an above ground garden and loaded the back of our truck up with organic compost ( I am now learning how to make my own compost). We built the retaining wall around the garden and wheel barrowed all of the compost into the back yard. For two weeks I watered and turned the compost to neutralize the ph levels and then added top soil.

After planting the seeds and watching the blossoms start to sprout, something changed in me. I started paying more attention to progress of the sprout growth and tending to areas that were getting disheveled or building up more dirt for stalks that needed more support. But these activities have been more than just tending a garden. It feels like something I have known deep down, but it was far away and now it is coming back. There is a relationship we have with mother earth, if we quiet ourselves enough to feel it.

When I listened to Miriam's interview it all came flying around full-circle and I realized we are all closer than we think to the path of enlightenment; we just have to believe.

Peace

[Chinderland]

As far as I could tell, and aside from a couple of completely unverifiable references to events that supposedly occurred in Earth's deep dark past, she brought absolutely nothing new to the table. She simply unveiled a bland potpourri of things that are already there for anyone to partake of; things that have already been recycled and regurgitated countless times all over the internet and in print.

... Nothing she said was even remotely so, IMO. Vague and ambiguous, Yes. But "fascinating?" Well, maybe to her it was.

Good points!

I found it the same way: She brought nothing new on the table. Most of the things she stated ONLY echo what have been revealed by other interviewees on Project Camelot. And she is vague and ambiguous about what she knows of the future timelines/possibilities.

If we are to find truth through our own inquiry and investigation, it is better to search for disconfirmation rather than confirmation. it is also the essence of scientific methodology to try to falsify a hypothesis. If a theory cannot be disproved, it stays valid for the time being.

Another thing that I always find strange is about the "tall blond beings". So far it seems that there are two hypothesis about their origns: 1) They are the seeder/watcher/protector of human kind, and/or 2) They are future humans from the Nordic descend.

Why are there no other races represented in alien beings?? I am a Chinese, so I would say: "Why no Asian-looking aliens?" I mean we've got quite a LOT of us there in East Asia, right? How come we are so under-represented in alien encounters? :shocked:

If at least some aliens are from a future Earth, why no Asian faces? Is it because we survived so successfully whatever happens in the future that we don't care too much about coming back in history and changing the timelines? Or is it because we become extinct? :roll1:

Superior beings as fit, tall, blond and with "perfect crystal-blue" eyes?? Oh, com'on, give me a break ... Tell me, what's so good about blond hair and blue eyes, from a survival point of view? I actually find dark-brown eyes not bad at all. :mfr_lol:

But I would like to thank Kerry and Bill for this interview. It is the most important thing that we bring ALL perspectives, but some disconfirmation or differences will be even better for us to explore truth.

We Chinese have an old saying: Good medicine tastes bitter but cures your disease; Good words sound annoying but correct your behavior.

Peace to the world.

[xenomorph]

I am having vibrations or feeling that there is something weird about this interview, not sure what it is but i left it feeling, for lack of a better term "weird" and drained of energy.

Anyone else? Is there something subliminal?

I agree. While I was watching the video, I felt a strange something that I could not put my finger on. Given the "hype" by Bill and Kerry, I was expecting more---if not something positive then at least something of practical use. There were moments of positive gleanings, but overall I have to agree with others that there was nothing new here.

I too have grown uncomfortable with all this destruction talk.

Positivity and calm are key...planning the end can create it.

We are energy and have nothing to fear.

If I fall into the pacific, I will endure, and so will you. Its the illusion of endpoints that have created this cloud of fear that directs things to the negative reality.

I think David Wilcock addressed this issue wonderfully in his Futuretalk with Bill and Kerry. At one point he basically says so what if we **** die? I resonated more with that one line than with the entirety of Miriam's tidbits. I could not agree with your "endpoints" reference more! Physical death is not the end.

Peace.

[MonitorYou]

Very disappointed :(

[clarkkent]

Good points!

Why are there no other races represented in alien beings?? I am a Chinese, so I would say: "Why no Asian-looking aliens?" I mean we've got quite a LOT of us there in East Asia, right? How come we are so under-represented in alien encounters? :shocked:

If at least some aliens are from a future Earth, why no Asian faces? Is it because we survived so successfully whatever happens in the future that we don't care too much about coming back in history and changing the timelines? Or is it because we become extinct? :roll1:

Superior beings as fit, tall, blond and with "perfect crystal-blue" eyes?? Oh, com'on, give me a break ... Tell me, what's so good about blond hair and blue eyes, from a survival point of view? I actually find dark-brown eyes not bad at all. :mfr_lol:

We Chinese have an old saying: Good medicine tastes bitter but cures your disease; Good words sound annoying but correct your behavior.

Peace to the world.


hey there :) read this whole thread, i went in depth as why there might be a reason theyre all blonde, and its not a good or positive reason. you shouldnt have to be non white to realize how suspicious this is.

[Tamarie]

Hi all,

I can tell this thread is going to become VERY long, so I just want to stick my hand up - now - with the others who felt absolutely no excitement and no resonance with Miriam or her interview.

I'm sure Miriam is the most lovliest, genuine person on earth, and I don't DISbelieve her, but I almost couldn't make it through the almost two hours of flat tones... Compare that interview with the likes of David Wilcock, Dan Burish, or the majority of others that Camelot have done, and it just doesn't seem to be on par.

(Perhaps Bill made it out to be more than what it actually was? I've been sitting here refreshing my Camelot page for days on end waiting for this interview, only to be let down!)

To be quite frank, I'm sick of hearing those being interviewed saying 'this' is going to happen, or 'that' is going to happen, and then tell us not a skeric about what they suspect (or are told) might happen! It drives me nuts that these people stain the edges of what they "don't say" is going to happen with negative remarks or negative 'likely' events, which, by the way, could range from any number of calamities, both natural or man-made...

It's almost like hearing a child cry "wolf" so many times that eventually you just lose interest - or faith...

Love to you all,

Tamara

[Pono Boy]

Miriam relies too heavily on information that she received 20 years ago. It doesn't surprise me that the destructive timeline was dominant back then. But, really, the "consciousness movement" has done a lot of work since then. Think about it! Look at your own life and the world 20 years ago and compare it to now. Basically, I think her central message is out of date. Yes, I believe that WWIII is a strong possibility, even likely. But if you live from your heart, you will be protected by Mother Earth. If this sounds too esoteric, then think about the animal kingdom in which many of them are forwarned about earthquakes and storms. How? Unlike humans, they have not forgotten the natural forces of nature. They can sense them. Humans also have that sense. We've just forgotten how to use it. The secret is in your heart. Follow your heart and you will be guided to change physical locations if you need to. As for Miriam, I think she nees to evolve past that old timeline of doom and gloom. Leave it behind! Mother Earth will purge the planet, but those who love her will not be in harm's way!

[Jon Carling]

Hi all,

I can tell this thread is going to become VERY long, so I just want to stick my hand up - now - with the others who felt absolutely no excitement and no resonance with Miriam or her interview.

I'm sure Miriam is the most lovliest, genuine person on earth, and I don't DISbelieve her, but I almost couldn't make it through the almost two hours of flat tones... Compare that interview with the likes of David Wilcock, Dan Burish, or the majority of others that Camelot have done, and it just doesn't seem to be on par.

(Perhaps Bill made it out to be more than what it actually was? I've been sitting here refreshing my Camelot page for days on end waiting for this interview, only to be let down!)

To be quite frank, I'm sick of hearing those being interviewed saying 'this' is going to happen, or 'that' is going to happen, and then tell us not a skeric about what they suspect (or are told) might happen! It drives me nuts that these people stain the edges of what they "don't say" is going to happen with negative remarks or negative 'likely' events, which, by the way, could range from any number of calamities, both natural or man-made...

It's almost like hearing a child cry "wolf" so many times that eventually you just lose interest - or faith...

Love to you all,

Tamara

agreed!

[Chris Parson]

i wanna see camelot interview barbara marciniak

[Operator]

Hi,

It's clear that posting members here have such differing opinions. Which is great by itself of course.
However it becomes obvious to me that a potential event such as a huge spaceship appearing on October 14th
will NOT have an effect as intended: to make clear they are no threat to us.

And whatever you believe, both ways sound reasonable. Remember that most of us are taught as kid not to trust a stranger with candy ....

What remains probably is just the gut feeling ...

About the duality of good and bad, heaven and hell, paradise or a revelations like clean-sweep of the earth:

We should stop the debate ... WE KNOW what's bad for the planet !! period ... !!

We should not need channelers or ET's to tell us that.

So to me it's undoubtedly clear that whatever any interviewed person is telling we MUST make life altering changes.
We keep making excuses to postpone taking action. Leave the planet as a big mess for our kids ?

We are so impregnated with ideas like economy must 'grow' etc. etc.
How about scaling down some things for a change ?

Obesity leads to all kinds of diseases ... the solution is dieting ... scaling back down to a healthy level.

We know this principle but are in denial folks !

Stop debating and judging who's right or wrong ... LISTEN to your hearts, understand the cause of problems
and start making changes ... let's begin with OURSELVES !!

Cheers

[droid56]

I think it is almost impossible to come to a conclusion as to the intent of the ET factions interacting here on our planet.

ET is here, and have been here for a very long time. Of this I have no doubt.

But all other assertions about them are clouded in doubt.

The big question is which ETs are in fact here, and what are their motivations?

I've done a lot of reading. Mostly the grays are said to be service-to-self types, but some say they aren't, and some say some of them are positive ETs delivering tough lessons. And some say some of the grays have turned positive, but most aren't positive.

Various sources say the grays are robotic, controlled by reptilians. But others say the grays are slowly infiltrating our society with the products of their genetic manipulations involving human abductees.

Some people say the reptiles are running the ET show, with grays in a subservient role. Reptilians are doing the infiltration in this scenario.

I'm really not confident that positive ETs are playing a role in this drama, but I hope they are.

I also have doubts that the nordics are the good guys. They are reported to cooperate with the grays. And I don't trust the grays.

After reading all this stuff, my conclusion is that it would be wise to keep an open mind. But trust nobody.

Continue to trust people and non-people based on how they behave, over time, and in the case of Et over a long time.

[Samarkis]

Namaste All!!!

I was impressed with her experiences and her synchrosities:yet, I would humbly like to remind everyone that WE Manifest what we intend & focus on!!!

Focus on Abundance,awakening,compassion,safety,beauty,toler ance,
Light and these will be a part of your life. Refuse to accept the chaos and the
fear that PTB and Media are trying to spread.

Join in Intention groups,use your imagination to dream of ways that the World can be what it should be:Love,joy,beauty,knowledge.Intend for
new solutions to the ways we Humans live.Dream beautiful dreams
of fertile fields,bursting with flowers,birds,blue skies,of wondrous mountains with crytsl clear,clean water refreshing our bodies & souls, or endless oceans that have a whole world of creatures teaming with life!
Be generous in your visions & dreams and feel it from your hearts.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/Earth-Water-37864.jpg

[Metamike]

Compared to the level of information given by others that are interviewed by the project Miriam Delicado gives me absolutely nothing of value. There are tons of warnings that could lead me to believe that there is some sort of leading by fear. She gives few specifics and they are all packed in vagueness. I think it was a waste of time.:thumbdown:

[pilot]

I believe Miriam's message was very authentic and relevant to this time of transition. I can tell you that one particular point she emphasized has already manifested with me.

Approximately six weeks ago I received messages to grow a Victory Garden. Not just any garden, but a Victory Garden, which had significance, but I just did not know what it was at the time. If you look up the significance of a victory garden it is interesting in many different ways.

Now, for the record I am a very novice gardener at best and up until recently a workaholic, so this was a very out of character endeavor for me.

I did some research on victory gardens, drug the significant other to home depot for materials to build an above ground garden and loaded the back of our truck up with organic compost ( I am now learning how to make my own compost). We built the retaining wall around the garden and wheel barrowed all of the compost into the back yard. For two weeks I watered and turned the compost to neutralize the ph levels and then added top soil.

After planting the seeds and watching the blossoms start to sprout, something changed in me. I started paying more attention to progress of the sprout growth and tending to areas that were getting disheveled or building up more dirt for stalks that needed more support. But these activities have been more than just tending a garden. It feels like something I have known deep down, but it was far away and now it is coming back. There is a relationship we have with mother earth, if we quiet ourselves enough to feel it.

When I listened to Miriam's interview it all came flying around full-circle and I realized we are all closer than we think to the path of enlightenment; we just have to believe.

Peace

I'm so glad you brought up gardening! Your description of the process you experienced is very eloquent and I appreciate hearing it. I feel ya...it is the single most important thing I do with my time for reasons like you described-making that connection to the earth is crucial in infinite ways, for all people. More time outside, less on computer. I've been computer heavy lately...most stuff is played out-not much to do, go haul some manure-heh, some tasks are more pleasant than others.

Peace

[pilot]

I think it is almost impossible to come to a conclusion as to the intent of the ET factions interacting here on our planet.

ET is here, and have been here for a very long time. Of this I have no doubt.

But all other assertions about them are clouded in doubt.

The big question is which ETs are in fact here, and what are their motivations?

I've done a lot of reading. Mostly the grays are said to be service-to-self types, but some say they aren't, and some say some of them are positive ETs delivering tough lessons. And some say some of the grays have turned positive, but most aren't positive.

Various sources say the grays are robotic, controlled by reptilians. But others say the grays are slowly infiltrating our society with the products of their genetic manipulations involving human abductees.

Some people say the reptiles are running the ET show, with grays in a subservient role. Reptilians are doing the infiltration in this scenario.

I'm really not confident that positive ETs are playing a role in this drama, but I hope they are.

I also have doubts that the nordics are the good guys. They are reported to cooperate with the grays. And I don't trust the grays.

After reading all this stuff, my conclusion is that it would be wise to keep an open mind. But trust nobody.

Continue to trust people and non-people based on how they behave, over time, and in the case of Et over a long time.

Here, here droid, I salute you, come to no conclusions about any of it, I agree. We have to make a difference here and now, no matter what kind of outer space hokey pokey is going on. It seems like a huge diversion to speculate about et's motives and et's origins and et's history when we don't have that straight about ourselves to varying degrees. meh let's all go outside and play.

[Mark]

Re: Miriam Delicado Interview was very interesting - but sadly only half the interview would download - video - so I had to download the audio to complete the interview - great stuff - thanks Bil and Kerry.

This could all tie in with the 14-10-2008 predictions...

[Operator]

Hi,

Hey Samarkis that's a lush green pic you have there ! Great inspiration to focus on ...

What's disappointing to me is that some people say that the interview is a waste of time etc.

Regardless of the level of truthfulness of the interview she's promoting:
1. physical group meeting
2. take action

And apparently that's what a lot of people don't like to hear ...
It looks like a lot of us would like to hear absolutely concrete things like on ... October this and this is going to happen
then we press so and so buttons and everything will be okidoki ...

IMO Consciousness or intend by itself doesn't DO anything ... in the end something needs to happen !

Sitting on a chair being very conscious of being too heavy wishing the pounds away does not work !
Sweat is involved and you need to work out ...

Being conscious of our cars polluting the air we breathe does not clean the air. Being conscious means that you at least think
about planning your trips efficiently and fanatically seek alternatives to avoid the trip anyway. May save you money as well !

Yes, it may very well mean we have to give up some easy comforts ... but you have to focus on the long term benefits !

I think that's exactly what the issue is about, we are used to easy and immediate results, otherwise it will lose our attention.

Cheers

[Samarkis]

Hello Operator!

Thank you for the comment on the picture....It is inviting enough to just dive right in!!


Yes... we are free to be self disciplined,and with that comes all that it entails.

However, we are more than just our physical selves-we have a spirit that does not die,has been reborn many times and works on progress and experiences.When one learns what we Humans really are(Fractals of God)
experiencing EVERTHING,in every way,being all knowing. It is our turn to return to Unity and reclaim what we are. The ET's have helped in this in many worlds and many times. Just as a baby born is a miracle & yet it is done ALL the time!!!

If then, we are Fractals of God,therefore we have Godly powers and therefore
can intend and focus on something and it will be. (That is why when many come together to Intend something-it comes to pass,no matter what religion or cause)(Now of course there are other laws of the Universe that come into play)I suggest going to www.michaelsharp.org and read his 3 free e-books on PDF. He does a GREAT job!

If you like, I will find a post I found with 12 Universal laws and post it.
Namaste!http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/animation-5.gif

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Not as convincing as other P/C interviews. Hmmmmmmm Maybe it was built up too much...?

Something is off IMO. I mean no offence.

Love & light.

[MartyMcFailure]

when they were talking about the "blue star" i was thinking of the 10/14 situation..

ClarkKent: i have been thinking about these nordics in a similar way. when dan burisch talked about the illuminati going underground and becoming the j-rods and people staying on the surface becoming orions i thought: "hmm the illuminati planned for hundreds of years to pull off their master plan only to get stuck inside the earth and become grotesque (no offence to the greys) grey aliens. It would be poetic justice!! thats for sure. but like you rightly pointed out, isnt their plan to do this whole master/slave race situation? isnt that a big part of their whole game?
Michael st clair said about the greys that they werent ETs persay they were from here and they cant leave or something. tsarion says similar.
Nordics being involved with native americans gives them some brownie points.
Reptilians/Annunaki: are they shapeshifting interdimensionals or extraterrestrials? are the poor greys slaves to both? st clair said something about them being clones with no souls. Oh god
BACK TO NORDICS? linda molten howe is on c2c tonite talking about among other things rabits, horses, koala bears, kangaroos, cats and dogs getting messed up by exterrestrial bilogical entities being the perpetrators ( some being decaptitated w lazer like presicion). Miriam said the nordics say these genetic schemes they have are all for the good. these animal mutilations r nasty and why? whats the purpose? all internal organs removed with no blood? why cant they conjure up cats and such, why abduct pets and cause heartbreak? Nordics what is up huh? or is it the evil reptiles?! jesus christ what the hell this is like a freaking heman episode.

[Kate]

MY 2p worth here....I am amazed how many people dont seem to be resonating with this interview!

for me, it was one of the most powerful messages i have heard!! :thumb_yello:

She was articulate, precise in her exact wording, intentional, ...and the message was SO CLEAR!!! :shocked: what is there to not understand?
Miriam is not saying anything different from other interviews overall ...yes, it IS repeating the messages from others....and this is the POINT! WE DONT HAVE TIME ON OUR SIDE!! ACTION/AWARENESS/CHANGE NEEDED NOW....not tomorrow or next month or next year....the moment is NOW!

I dispair, if the people here ( ground crew??) are not 'getting' this message...


It is HERstory and that is linked to HIStory...and that is ALL our stories!

well, I am going back to listen to it again...i still cant believe so many are not relating to this....:tears:

peace

kate

[VinnieCooper]

I heard SEED'S, and WAS LIKE THANK YOU, MD.

BuyingSeeds Mightnot Be Such A Great Idea, Try Collecting them yourself at least you know they will not be Sterile + They will grow well where you live.

Does MD Remind anybody else of Sarah Connor from the Terminator II film.
I like her.

[Relin]

I thought her interview was interesting, but dwelling on things that happened 20 years ago. My questions to her would be:

Have you have any recent experiences/encounters?
She mentioned that she was given an item and buried it, but she cant findit now - but exactly what is the item?

I got the feeling that she was holding back on some info and was a bit vague in some areas. maybe she has a reason why, however I did think she was quite sincere in her approach. maybe she has seen things that have terrified the living daylights out of her and doesnt want to pass that on to cause panic.

Must admit that she is a bit of hottie :naughty: She can come over to my place and plant seeds in my garden any day.. :naughty:

Regarding the seeds - isn't she aware that there is a Seedbank buried in Iceland?

Nordics - playing around with peoples genes etc - they just sound a bit too much Third Reich to me..

Bill and Kerry - I dont see how this is the most important interview you've done.

[Chinderland]

hey there :) read this whole thread, i went in depth as why there might be a reason theyre all blonde, and its not a good or positive reason. you shouldnt have to be non white to realize how suspicious this is.

clarkkent,

Thanks for your reply. I am reading all your posts under this thread now...

[mikey]

:trumpet:MY 2p worth here....I am amazed how many people dont seem to be resonating with this interview!

for me, it was one of the most powerful messages i have heard!! :thumb_yello:

She was articulate, precise in her exact wording, intentional, ...and the message was SO CLEAR!!! :shocked: what is there to not understand?
Miriam is not saying anything different from other interviews overall ...yes, it IS repeating the messages from others....and this is the POINT! WE DONT HAVE TIME ON OUR SIDE!! ACTION/AWARENESS/CHANGE NEEDED NOW....not tomorrow or next month or next year....the moment is NOW!

I dispair, if the people here ( ground crew??) are not 'getting' this message...


It is HERstory and that is linked to HIStory...and that is ALL our stories!

well, I am going back to listen to it again...i still cant believe so many are not relating to this....:tears:

peace

kate


It certainly resonated within me...:wink2:

peace
bananaman

[matrix]

Thanks for a great interview. What was said resonated so well with me - that I often KNEW what she was going to say next, before she said it - and this was the first time I encountered her or her work.

I view the responses of members here - it is a great barometer of the state of our collective consciousness.

I think that a lot of us already know what we need to know, now at this point in time. If we move from Knowing to Doing, maybe more insights and knowledge will be revealed?

There is a time for the in-flow and out-flow (and application) of knowledge. Knowledge without action is not worth a lot, in my opinion. The time for Action and Shift is NOW!

This interview has brought my own experiences with OBE's, other entities etc. into sharper focus.

A great contribution, thanks.

[Bill Ryan]

:trumpet:

It certainly resonated within me...:wink2:

peace
bananaman

And me.

It seems obvious that we are in very deep trouble on this planet and have failed miserably in our own human responsibility to be stewards of all that's around us.

The problems of 'ordinary' human greed and short-sightedness have been exacerbated by the agendas of various control factions that have been around for quite a long time. But a lot of it is our own doing, too.

There's a great danger that we're going to blow it as the human race (or this version of it).

It's not quite too late - but it's perilously close. James Lovelock, the originator of the Gaia model, now says that the Earth is too damaged to be able to repair itself properly (my paraphrase).

Resources (oil, minerals, water, food) are becoming depleted and scarce. The world's population is growing at the rate of an additional city per day. All this would be worrying enough if the world's leaders were actually trying to handle these problems, but they are not: they are obsessed with perverted ideas of destiny and power and regard you and me as pawns on a giant chessboard to be sacrificed at will.

So if I were a member of a powerful, benevolent, Guardian race (and I'm sure they exist, maybe in many different forms) I'd be concerned too. I think they might intervene - but only at the eleventh hour and in limited ways. We may live to find out.

It seems certain that some people are being prepared, in some way, for something. You, reading this, are the only arbiter of whether or not this may apply to you.

Very best to all, Bill

[EpiphaMe]

Before finding Camelot early this year, I'd been reading a particular person's account, former Montauk boy, recruited, mind controlled/programmed via trauma, sexual & otherwise, ritual sacrifices, really, really disgusting sick stuff (which Miriam & the others confirm)... he's a "gifted mentalist", now a whistleblower for hire, loads of info, classes on deprogramming, consultations for sale, all fine & dandy... his take: that Sedona area has one of the largest undergrounds bases, warns it is NOT a safe place, but highly targeted for mind control via satellite transmission, much NewAge BS stems from there. My point IS that whatever "agenda" is going on, it's obvious that alien, ET exposure is a high priority, people coming forward in droves. I wonder just how much is actually downloaded into the minds of people? If aliens are abducting, taking samples, hybridizing, wanting soul carrier bodies, if their technology is such that they can read minds, implant thoughts...... I mean how much of this stuff do we need to hear??? Good gawd, if Bill Deagle's Granada Forum doesn't blast your mind apart, what will? This one person holds more info, insight & knowledge than I thought was possible! Want to get really scared? Chit is so deep that only your spiritual state is left for you to ponder.... get it??? Spirit is that stuff that animates, it moves you, get up off yer butts! Informaton is just that, while knowledge will bring about real change, in your self first!

All these people coming forward have the same underlying messages: Yes there are aliens (physical beings), ETs are real (non physical beings, other realms), astral realm is dangerous, use protection, that we are immortal, thoughts are energy (the frenzy here alone is food enough for the reptiles, smirk), take responsibility, live a virtuous life, stop believing & hold onto Knowledge, the economy is crashing, war is an ongoing threat. What's going on out there is a reflection of our interior, as a whole, is it not?

I especially noted Miriam's appeal to not be judged as being one of us, her family of mankind! Almost brought tears to my eyes because we all tend to hold ourselves blameless.

What can & do we really KNOW? We each know how we've lived our lives in this "prison zoo planet" < that's another repeated message. It takes a lifetime to unlearn everything right?... but ultimately, and brilliantly, it boils down to self responsibility.

Back to basics. Take back your mind, your spirit, your body however late it is. Trust your connection to the Source. How can there be an oppressor if the victim is not there? We already KNOW the physical body dies without its basic needs. We've been taken care of for so long most don't even know how to do it ourselves, that's the reality! We've all been swept up and even the tiniest details of our lives demanded choice when you really look and ad-mit (let in) that truth.

So here we find ourselves. Deal with it as it's "In Your Face".

It's entertainment for me, to listen to all these insiders reveal what's been hidden... they come forward in retirement or after they've accumulated their wealth, after living their entire lives being consciously a part of the lies, or until the situation is so dire that it's time to get right with god.

Oh I got her message alright! That look in her eyes at the end drove it home what's likely coming & I didn't need a blue star to tell me!

Today I'm planting garlic during this waning moon...grateful to be living in the country, it's so quiet, the stars are brilliant.

thank you for listening, however imposed it is.

[Jamie]

:trumpet:


It certainly resonated within me...:wink2:

peace
bananaman

This resonated with me also Bananaman, to be honest, I am totally itching to get the whole 'Radiant Zone' party started. I understand that not everyone is on the same page, and they may never be. We have to follow our feelings, I am not running scared (Cos I know someone will say that) I have a deep yearning, that I have felt for a VERY long time. We have to prepare, not out of fear. We need to join and create new communities in 'safe' areas or for those not ready or willing to relocate, then they should start/continue to bring harmony to their current location.

So folks, let's get this party started!

Jay

[tgraf66]

I've not read other opinions yet, as I didn't want to be influenced by them. Here's my take:

First impression: Another fear monger. Uses her "experience" as a "contactee" to spread fear. An agent of someone, don't know who, but someone who is trying very hard to scare the bejeezus out of people in order to get them to "comply" with whatever comes from whoever says it. May be psychic, may be a contactee, may have had encounters with feds/secret groups, but has reached the stage of believing her own hype. Not a positive impression.

Later impressions: Stories are interesting, but nothing all that different from other contactees/gov't ops/whistleblowers. Appears to me to be a bit too emphatic and unctuous in telling her stories, almost like she is doing her best to raise the tension and suspense to get me to pay attention. Problem is that she keeps saying "potentially, possibly, could be, might be" about things that are supposed to happen in the future, and then never really giving any details. I respect that she may feel the need to be circumspect about saying that anything specific will happen or giving dates in order to save herself from future ridicule if her "revelations" don't happen, but she doesn't say anything really concrete or convincing. Just says that "catastrophes, chaos," are coming. Plays on the Hopi and Maya stuff that has been all over the internet for ages.

Some decent advice on seeds and a few other small things, but again, nothing that hasn't been said many times before.

[quest]

actully, not to offend anyone, but the nuanced critics in this thread are giving me a good feel and are at least as inspiring as the inteview to me.


a thought about groups; is de devine spark not present in all of us. are we in the proces of forming groups not creating a form of seperation vs working on unity?

[Jenny]

People seem to need more and more and more facts and information to convince themselves.
Looking outside for more.The cancer of this time. What made all this mess.

Instead of looking inside and feel in their hearts what is truth to them and Stand Tall in their actions with compassion.

Miriam is a very strong messenger in finding truth inside against all odds.
She knows people will invalidate her message by harsh personal attacks.

She is stressed about that. And she is stressed because of the enormity, the magnitude of her message.

It is all plain to see in her video.

Z for Zorro.

[stefaan]

I am pretty impressed by that interview and agree it's one of the most powerful so far. I still have to read all post on this thread, but I am surprised a lot of people didn't like it???
I am curious why. This evening I'll read all post.


... we are in very deep trouble on this planet and have failed miserably in our own human responsibility ...
... greed and short-sightedness ... But a lot of it is our own doing, too.
There's a great danger that we're going to blow it as the human race (or this version of it).
It's not quite too late - but it's perilously close...


Maybe not all of us, but almost all of us have failed in our own human responsibility indeed. And please, don't point your finger to others this time. Look into your own bosom.
Greed and short-sightedness, yes, surely. But also laziness, not caring enough, more being interested in having kicks,... The list is long...
Fortunately, there are still some exceptions.

I've often thought about things to come. Some few times I'm afraid for myself. But when I think of it seriously, I'm not afraid to die, I won't flee to safer zones... The only thing I'm really concerned about, afraid you might say, is the earth won't survive. So many beautiful places, flowers, trees, innocent animals... will it all disappear? That worries me more than my own life. Ok, in some billion years, a new revived world will have emerged. That's a poor consolation, don't you think. The earth is quit innocent, did not diserve this.

It's not quite too late - but it's perilously close...
I agree. And still so many peoples mind have to be changed. If I look around, everybody seems to treat their world as a garbage can, more then ever.

[SHAMANKA]

This is in response to Miriam Delicado's interview (http://www.projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html) when she talks about the "seeds" of the earth.

When listening to Miriam's interview, I was reminded of two articles I have read on Global Research (http://www.globalresearch.ca/) when Miriam tells how the Tall Blondes talked to her about "seeds", which she is concerned about because of its ability to save the planet.

Below are the two articles:

"Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Artic: Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO Giants Know Something We Don't (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529) by William F. Engdahl
Globabl Research
December 4, 2007

NATO's Doomsday Seed Vault in the Artic: Using "Climate Change" as a Pretext to Appropriate World's Seeds' Treasure (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10300) by William F. Engdahl
Global Research
September 22, 2008
THANK YOU for these links, they are brilliant. Going tro forward this on to people I know who laugh at me when I talk about the importance of seeds and bees, grwoing your own and so on. I must read his book, thank you for these...

Re Miriam I thought she was sound, I still need time to process what she said and will be reading her book. But I really felt she was genuine, and I have not felt that with many of the others whom Camelot have interviewd there has always been a nagging doubt..or three..but I think that is a good thing- we all need that ******** detector mechanism, I thought her strong advice about entities and boundaries was excellent and much needed. Great work from Bill and kerry, also Kerry's place looks amazing..!!
love to all.:original:

[I_Am]

...It seems obvious that we are in very deep trouble on this planet and have failed miserably in our own human responsibility to be stewards of all that's around us...

I totally agree!

...There's a great danger that we're going to blow it as the human race (or this version of it)...

We all feel this deep in our hearts, as well as anyone not blind, can see it with their own eyes.

...It seems certain that some people are being prepared, in some way, for something. You, reading this, are the only arbiter of whether or not this may apply to you...

This is maybe the explanation of the explosive success of Project Avalon; finally we are with our fellow. Finally a channel to share and learn, to prepare. To realize that I am not alone. Bringing us together in this forum is worth a big star in heaven for you guys! Thanks a lot. The sky is not the limit, but the start!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

People seem to need more and more and more facts and information to convince themselves.
.


Curse those pesky "Facts". Always getting in the way of reality. :mfr_lol:

call me old fashioned, but I like facts. :)

[Jenny]

Facts can be multiplied by a factor ...choose a factor you like..whatever.

Facts are things to be shoved around till it fits your convictions and believes.

Shift and change is about finding inner core truths. And the facts are just a tool to find a procedure on how to go about to make your inner heartfelt truth become reality.

And for that you need the heartvirtues.
6 of them and the 7th is in the middle..your heart.

http://eventtemples.com/

You can find it there.


Jenny

Z for Zorro.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

errrr, ok....?

[Jenny]

Hm, is my post too compressed? EWO?

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I just dont see what that has to do with any of this. I think I made my point. I just dont get yours. :)

[Jenny]

Curse those pesky "Facts". Always getting in the way of reality. :mfr_lol:

call me old fashioned, but I like facts. :)


I commented on this .
:winksmiley02:

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I dont shape facts to fit my beleif. Its the other way around .Facts shape my belief. I weigh up the facts and then choose what to belive. I combine with my gut instinct & then try to reach a conclusion. In this case, something seems off. :) Thats all I have to say really. Love & light to all.

[orwellsbud]

Just to add my 'two-penneth' worth, whatever people thought of the interview or Miriam, whether there are good or bad ET's, Nordic/Nazi, reptilian, greys, End times etc, is to me irrelevant. Agreed, there was nothing new in what was said here but I think the overriding message is clear. We need to come together and change our ways both on a physical and spiritual level pronto! As it seems to be the general consensus that we and the planet are in deep sh*t! ...Sorry if that sounds like an understatement...:mfr_lol:

We have to stop giving in to those weaker emotions especially Fear! And start taking more responsibility for ourselves on a personal level, once we achieve that the collective effect will be exponential. :thumb_yello:

Peace & Blessings
OB:smoke:

[Johnno]

That was one hell of an interview. It certainly got my eyes open a little wider. :yikes:
Great interview once again from Bill and Kerry. And its very much appreciated on the speed you got it out there for all to download. My hat off to you both. WELL DONE!!!
Take care all and peace be with you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

[THE eXchanger]

Dear Bill & Kerry...
all in all, it is very good

from the aspect of quality of the production,
sound & video, this is a major improvement,
over earlier ones, it is clearly apparent,
it appears the two of you, have a lot of talent,
and, you have fabulous equipment,
and, the know now to produce, some pretty good stuff :) This is great !!!

Both, Bill & Kerry have excellent voices, and, that clearly stands out,
and, sets the two of you, into a nice light.

I am really impressed with both Bill & Kerry

Kerry's caring, compassion, and, kindness
and, personality and, unique style,
makes her shine, and, come across
as, someone, who people feel a sense of she is real,
a woman, who is strongly connected, to her mission/and, her purpose, and, i think,
that, the same too, can be said about you Bill.
Your realism, and, your professional approach,
balances, and, rounds out the equation, very nicely.

i found, what she had to say was quite interesting,
however, it seemed to be missing, a lot of pieces,
was, most of this, just in "lucid dreaming"...
or, actual "real contact"...i found myself, wanting to know more ...
but, feeling a little powerless to ask the quesions,
since, i was just watching an interview.
SO, i would eXplore her and her message--in much greater depth--for sure

Her delivery of it, was rather emotionless, and, she didn't seem very excited about it, and, it was a wee bit flat, but,
there was a definite "good message" to it
and, i got it !!! (a few times, during it,
her inability to control her own emotions, left me feeling rather odd)
but, it did leave me, with a lot of unaswered questions--i'd want to explore further

however, it is also possible, that, this was an interview,
where the client paid, for the taping, and, these where the questions,
as, well, as, the product, the client wanted ???
MIGHT make you curious, and, buy her book.
(as, i am sure, very likely this type of stuff, is NOT done for free)

she is also quite young, just 22 ???
so, that also, should be taken into account,
it is NOT easy to do this sort of thing
and, anyone who might think it is,
should think again, it is very difficult/and, hard
(esp. if, you are NOT 100% sure you want to do it)
which was the impression, i was left with

many contactees, stay in the closet,
because it is easier that way
so, she is definitely to be commended for talking,
and, telling her story
(the first interview is always the hardest one)
the second one, will likely be a breeze
(so, it is important, that people here,
express, some tact, in their comments)
i think we will be hearing a lot more,
about Miriam Delicado,
she's one, i'll bet would be a pretty interesting
person, to spend a day with. :)

the first speaking event i did that was large,
with over 2,000 people, almost all of them strangers
& i actually lost my own composure,
and, started screwing up my words,
even, forgot what i wanted to say,
and, i actually had to nearly be picked up,
from the floor
(and, at that time, i was about 26)
:mfr_lol:
(it was a good learning experience)
it only happened once, thank god, for that

most people, who have had contact with "others",
and, i will utilise that term others, rather "loosely"
since contact does span many different gambits,
both good, and, bad.

It has been my own experience,
that, i have almost always been empowered by them,
NOT often disempowered,
and, when things come to me,
it is a rather simple process,
to sort the light beings, from the dark beings
but, that took, a lot of discerning, on my part
to learn to separate it all,
as, a spiritualist, the ethers around me,
are very active.

so, i think, i will need to watch it twice,
in order, to see, exactly why i feel this way.

on the other hand,
i found her website, more intriguing,
and, her picture there, quite compeling,
and, although i have NOT read her book,
i am sure, that is also interesting.

i still say, "events", and, "seminars"
where you can record 2-3 minutes,
of many different people, like 30-50 people,
would likely make much more of an impact.

even the recording of a simple interactive
type of conference call with many guests

i believe, there are a lot of people on earth,
with an assortment, of pieces of a puzzle,
i suppose, the best part of that,
is all of us, are here, with the answers,
it's just a matter of how do we assemble it,
in ways it makes sense to all.
and, is that even possible ???

i am aware, of abilites, to go into much higher
earth dimensions, and connect to beings,
in a 9th dimensional earth,
however, i am hard pressed
on exactly how you would prove it, to others,
who do NOT possess that ability, to connect.

i have had physical transportations,
into the 5th new world...
admist, being in the 4th world

a trip up north in the snow,
and, a closed highway
(as per the newspaper)
were, although the time on the clock
would have implied, it was impossible to travel
up the road (since the highway was closed)
and, a comment, from the driver of the car
(geez, what happened to all the other vehicles around us)
tells me, on 12/27/07, of last year
(i stepped into the 5th world, and, did it,
with 2 others, in the same car, who ironically,
live most of their lives, very 3D based)
while i certainly, do NOT...
i live most of my life, in what, i would consider to be
the new earth, with my physical anchored/and,
grounded in 3D, extending upwards,
i get a sense, that Miriam, does the same.

The oddest part of that trip,
was, that, we had to get to this funeral,
SO, did the will projected,
allow for the way to get there...
to just be automatically provided ???

All in all, i found it to be quite good...
however, in truth, i was expecting her,
to be much more informed,
than she appeared to be,
however, i know, it is NOT an easy job,
to be in front of cameras, and, lights, etc.,
and, to tell a story such as this,
esp. a lifetime of stories,
in just 1 1/2 hours !!!
(that is a virtual impossibility)
and, in light of that,
i think, you all did a good job

As a sage, i am very unlikely to read her book,
as, reading other peoples books,
is NOT how i have come into my own awareness,
some of it, has happened in "lucid dreams",
so, i can relate to that.

Some of it, did occur, when, i saw a ship,
with another,
and, both of us, became frozen in time,
(i even remember how that felt, as, it was happening)
looking at him, getting frozen behind me,
and, then, feeling almost like i too,
became a statue, too)

and, there was a "missing set of 4 hours"...

and, the other person, refused to even talk about it,

i am beginning to remember the event,
but, even yet, i am NOT so sure,
i would want to talk,
about it, with a camera rolling on me !!!

personally, in light of her age, etc.,
i think she did quite a good job,
and, she is REAL ...that is far more important,
than, having a dynamic personality,
and, then, people would be saying,
she is just too polished and slick,
either way,
i think, all round,
if all productions by Bill & Kerry,
to come in the future,
have this type of production quality,
they have come a long way, in a short distance :)
leaves me, with one uneXpressed thought...

"it will be good, getting better, becoming the best"

White Lotus Star ~ susan
the eXchanger

[kem]

Hi folks!

I'm a bit disappointed by this interview. Mme Delicado looks like a very benevolent and gentle person. But it seems that nobody has noticed her eyes motion. I agree she's very nice eyes maybe reflecting the purity of her soul.
Anyway she's always looking to her left side. As she looks right handed (maybe i'm wrong but her body gesture looks like she is) it means she's refering to the left part of her brain.

This part is actually involved in building objects and situations which are not existing or have not happened.:winksmiley02:

I'm really sorry but I can't be confident with her and I won't believe all that she said. I'm used to grow suspicious in front of people who have an odd body language.

however the good point is that she wants to make things better. And by these days, it's important enough to be stressed....:original:

[arcora]

My view is that she will sell some more books because of this interview.

[Ofelas]

It may seem like there are two distinct types of users engaged in here, one group that resonates more with the clear cut, fact-filled message
from the likes of Green, Lear, St:Clair, James/Wingmakers and Wilcock, and then those that resonate with the type of messenger-style
that Delicado has.

I had high expectations as well as many other people in here, and I enjoyed the interview for sure,
but it probably isn't an interview I will listen as many times to as for instance St:Clair's interviews, which I personally favor..
Not to say anything bad about Miriam, she is doing a fantastic job coming forward with her personal story/message,
but what resonates more with me is the 'cut-to-the-bone' style of the other messengers.
But still I would say her interview was pretty powerful,
and probably even more so for those that really 'clicks' with her way of presenting her message.

[clarkkent]

It's not quite too late - but it's perilously close. James Lovelock, the originator of the Gaia model, now says that the Earth is too damaged to be able to repair itself properly (my paraphrase).

Resources (oil, minerals, water, food) are becoming depleted and scarce. The world's population is growing at the rate of an additional city per day. All this would be worrying enough if the world's leaders were actually trying to handle these problems, but they are not: they are obsessed with perverted ideas of destiny and power and regard you and me as pawns on a giant chessboard to be sacrificed at will.

So if I were a member of a powerful, benevolent, Guardian race (and I'm sure they exist, maybe in many different forms) I'd be concerned too. I think they might intervene - but only at the eleventh hour and in limited ways. We may live to find out.

It seems certain that some people are being prepared, in some way, for something. You, reading this, are the only arbiter of whether or not this may apply to you.

Very best to all, Bill

bill i have to disagree with you about earth being beyond repair-this is the globalists trick on good hearted environmentalists. we absolutely are destroyng our environment, but if we can somehow finally get zero point energy we can reverse the damage as well as change our whole wage slave system/education etc.

the idea that the earth has to depopulate itself by cataclysmic changes is something that DOESNT need to be willed into existence. people like steven greer are working with private sector scientists to bring this about, the whole NWO has been about keeping the powerbase intact and they know the greatest danger the ET's pose is this paradigm changing technology that would put us on the path to harmony and balance.

i dont understand why you and kerry have chosen to go down the george green st clair path of total earth population destruction and that our salvation lies in these very FEW places on earth.

their are plenty of contactees (james gillilands group says NO earth changes) or people like mr greer that you could give equal exposure too who dont say "head for the hills." or marcia schafer even said their would be different realitites for different people. dan burisch even said were pretty out of the woods regarding earth changes and now just have to deal with the elites.

i know you want to take practical steps for people to be prepared for turmoil, but its one thing to prepare for winter, its another thing to act if winter is the apocalypse and tell everyone to move to hawaii or tahiti.

i think the fact that this DIDNT resonate with half the community here speaks volumes about people who dont see heading to the hills in fear to be the only solution.

i mentined this before, when ghandi saw what he did emerging in india did he say "screw this british police state! im headed for the himalayas! peace out folks!" no he stayed and changed the course of history despite the painful cost to him. shouldnt we take this more spiritual path. shouldnt we stay with our friends and loved ones to help them through these times.

if we run to the hills and abandon everyone we know are we in service to others and humanity? sounds more like service to self to me, just my opinion.

-kyle

[Jamie]

their are plenty of contactees (james gillilands group says NO earth changes)


-kyle

I don't think that is correct, James has stated that Earth changes are going to happen. Have you seen his DVD, Contact has Begun? He states it in there that we are going to experience Earth Changes.

Jay

[clarkkent]

I don't think that is correct, James has stated that Earth changes are going to happen. Have you seen his DVD, Contact has Begun? He states it in there that we are going to experience Earth Changes.

Jay


go to the mt adams video, that whole crew up there said they confirmed with their contacts that cataclysms arent going to happen, i believe they said at one time that it definitely was possible (IM saying its possible too, but just a possibilty and we dont need to WILL it into existence)

[Jamie]

go to the mt adams video, that whole crew up there said they confirmed with their contacts that cataclysms arent going to happen, i believe they said at one time that it definitely was possible (IM saying its possible too, but just a possibilty and we dont need to WILL it into existence)

This is taken from James Gilliland's Newsletter:

By James Gilliland

Whereas I commend the positive outlook and the concept of
consciousness creating reality there are a few concerns about the Mt
Adams Statement. It very well may lure people into a false sense of
security and some will use it as an excuse for denial and the
continuation of the status quo. A status quo that is having deadly
consequences on our environment. I personally believe we are eternal
souls and each soul will experience the changes in a way that is in
alignment with their soul evolution. We are on the verge of intense
social, economic and physical Earth changes. Science and statistics
bear this out if one but looks at the increase in natural disasters,
severe weather, increase is volcanic and earthquake activity as well
as solar cycle 24 which scientists are saying will eventually take
down the grid and anything operating on a microchip.

We also have to take into account the fact that the 50 years it was
going to take to melt the poles was changed to 30 then 20 and now the
North Pole will be entirely free of ice by the end of summer. The
Atlantic current is shutting down due to the mass influx of fresh
water which is the heater for most of Europe. The Earth is expanding,
shifting, groaning, cleansing and moving into a new highly energized
place in the universe. There are also Egyptian, Mayan, and other
prophesies that speak of these times. I believe how we move through
these times is directly related to the level of awareness, common
sense, and degree of attachment. I have always said it is time to
lovingly and joyously prepare without fear or attachment. Listen to
the inner voice deep within and listen to the land upon which you are
parked. What are your feelings telling you. Praise God but tie your
camel. Don't expect a mother ship to save you either. We created this
mess whether it was done in consciousness or action and it is up to
us to clean it up. Nature is evolving and has her destiny as well so
now is a good time to contemplate are you part of the solution or
part of the problem. The problem will be taken care of for it is the
destiny of Humanity and the Earth to move to the next level, the
Earth will cleanse itself and we will join the greater family of
man/woman throughout the multiverse. The only question is where will
you be during this process and will the process concern your job,
your family, your home etc. Something to contemplate.

Be well James

Gilliland www.eceti.org

[quest]

i agree with clarkkile bill,


small, maybe naive example. here in holland we live in one of the most dense populated arias of the world. one of the most polluted arias of the world as well. still we are, even absolutely seen, worldwide one of the biggest exporters of food, veggies. just as one example, there should be enough for everyone.
so many young people a willing to work hard on a new, better world, things are changing rapidly now.

i do appreciate the work you and karry doing, i enjoyed listening to all the interviews a lot. but why hammering on the doom scenario’s so much. it sometimes feels to me you're, with all good intentions, serving an other agenda, one that is not serving us at all.

[Jnana]

I think this bears repeating (Merlin posted the following on page 2 of this thread).


The Gathering "Return of the Ancestors" will be April 18-28, 2009 see this link:

http://www.earthworksforhumanity.org/pages/ROTA.shtml


Watch some of the invitation videos. The Nov. 2007 comet is confirmed as the blue star of the prophecy in one of them (I forget which, sorry).

I take this as very good news, and that wonderful things are going to happen soon. Your mileage may vary.

Also, someone asked if there had been any contactees or UFO related information in Africa. Search youtube for "Credo Mutwa David Icke" for more than you ever wanted to know about an African view of where humanity comes from, reptilians, and grays.

[Myplanet2]

I get her point.

She's a brave lady. If you look at all of the potential mayhem which has been foreseen for this planet in the near future, and had actually been given an advance look, you might be kind of nervous about your responsibility to get a certain message out about that.

The stakes are high.

Here's what I take away from her interview.

Responsibility rests squarely on our shoulders. The outcome has nothing to do with "them", and what "they" are doing. That train has wrecked, and it's all over but for the remainder of the crunching and sparking and dust settling. (Oh, and of course the rubber necking - who drives by a car wreck without slowing down to gawk?)

Miriam's message is that it's OUR game to redeem or not. It's WE who will determine the future. The watchers, guardians, guides, what have you, are not here to interfere, and rescue us like some sort of saviours, or messiahs. It's our game to win or lose.

Our disadvantage is that we are only recently becoming aware en masse that we've been in a game, and are supposed to be actually playing towards some outcome or another.

She hinted that the game has already had to be "reset" a few times, and we're quickly approaching another such reset point.

What's meant by "personal responsibility" appears to remain unrealized by many. To me, it's actually the key to our future. It's a recognition of what our actions, or inactions have to do with the eventual outcomes.

The PTB have been grooming us to believe we are helpless. Well, think wizard behind a curtain. Their game depends on illusion. It' depends on convincing us we've lost, because that's all they can really do, when it comes down to it. You have slaves when the slaves have decided they are slaves. Not when the PTB decide slavery works for them.

Miriam has it right, and Avalon has it right.

Sure we need to let one another know where the land mines have been placed, so we don't get taken out of the game. But that's the extent to which our focus should be aimed at what "they" are doing.

Sure "they" are all over our communication lines sowing dissent, trying to switch tracks, misleading, meddling, etc. But that's all for the purpose of keeping us from learning what we really need to be doing, which is taking personal responsibility for the outcome. They want us to believe that there is no point in doing so, because they have all the power, and we have none.

Nothing could be further from the truth. we have all the power we need, but our's is a different power. Ours is the power to remain aware, or to reawaken from our bad dream. Ours is the power to disagree with their desired outcome, and to let others know they are doing little more than playing an appointed role in a scripted play, and that the playwright has been off his rocker for some time now.

They want us here trying to guess what their next move will be, because that keeps us from doing what we should be doing. Taking personal responsibility.

Sit around gathering and evaluating facts? Fine. But realize that that is one of the land mines dropped in our projected path. While we are kept guessing, they are racing towards the finish line.

Several of the brightest amongst us have carried similar messages about getting around to taking personal responsibility. St Claire stands out in this regard.

I believe it's about the direction of the flow we choose to be on. The PTB want us on a flow which has us as a target. they want us watching what is coming our way, rather than placing our attention on what targets WE select for OUR energies. Attention placed in or attention placed out. Energy flowing in, or energy flowing out.

It's exciting waking up in a game where the other side is within site of the finish line. It makes our eventual "win" all the more spectacular.

But I believe we have the "juice" to pull it off.

It's going to take moving into personal responsibility, and off of the victim, or potential victim, or intended victim (mark, vic ) viewpoint.

The PTB still need our permission to pull this off. Permission denied.

Their greatest terror must stem from the possibility that we will find the means to awaken enough others to create a cascade of awakenings which explode out of their control.

A good example is the news about the army starting to operate within the US Oct 1. That sounded really spooky, until someone pointed out that the numbers involved could not even secure a medium sized town which offered anything but sheepish acquiescence.

But it sure looked good on the news, didn't it?

It appears to be time to pull back the curtain on the wizard by letting those hypnotized by their TV and newspapers know that there is a wizard there, pulling his levers and pushing his buttons, while feeling very exposed, should that thin little curtain not be there any longer.

Those ready for Miriams message, got Miriams message. Those that didn't, needn't worry. There are many others also sending the same message. Just notice the flavour of the messenger. Does he/she suggest personal responsibility or fear. Does he/she suggest reaching out and doing something, or bunkering down and hiding? Does he/she suggest a gentle, loving approach, or getting armed and dangerous? Does he/she suggest looking out for the many, or looking out for oneself?

Select your messenger wisely, or better yet, take personal responsibility, and be your own messenger.

Miriam said much the same while relating her encounter with Hopi elder. He was waiting for the question that never came. She recognized her ability to take personal responsibility for action or knowledge. "what can I possibly ask you that I don't already have the answer for myself?"

This hunger and need for answers is created and reinforced by the mysterious "them".

The outcome is not determined by our finding out any more answers than we already have. That will only keep us preoccupied while the prison walls are built around us while we watch in horror. And that's what they're doing. trying to keep us guessing until it's too late for the correct "answers" to be able to permit some winning actions to be undertaken.

My nickles' worth.

[clayman]

four corners of the world? could someone please explain?

[Operator]

small, maybe naive example. here in holland we live in one of the most dense populated arias of the world. one of the most polluted arias of the world as well. still we are, even absolutely seen, worldwide one of the biggest exporters of food, veggies. just as one example, there should be enough for everyone.
so many young people a willing to work hard on a new, better world, things are changing rapidly now.


??? On what facts do you base "worldwide one of the biggest exporters of food" ?

Are you AWARE of what you are saying ? I was born in Holland myself, lived there for the main part of my life.

"One of the most polluted arias"
That's right, do you want to live like that ? Can you still feel as free human under those conditions ? E.g. Schiphol, the national
airport is every time allowed to expand and exceed limits just for the sake of economy while it's way beyond healthy limits already.

"biggest exporters of food"
The food is expensive because it's grown in energy spoiling greenhouses. It has no taste and less nutrition. It's machine like produced !
You should try food that's growing just under the sun, in a natural way. It's tastier, healthier. Less fossil energy needed.
TASTE the difference !

"most dense populated arias of the world"
Traffic jams get worse and worse ... Burning gasoline driving your car is a bad idea but burning it standing still in miles long lines
of traffic jams is madness ! And there's no solution anywhere in the future ... to solve this.
My brother spends at least 1.5 to 2 hours driving TO his work and then again back home :shocked:
Do you really want to live like that ? Do you still feel free as an human ?
This way you're made a slave !! People complain about gas prices because they can't keep up while they need to go to work.

" things are changing rapidly now."
Yeah, the Bilderberg group originates from Holland. The father of our current queen was the founder of it all.
Indeed things are changing ... although the chips are proven to be "leaky" they still march on applying them everywhere.
Including the public transportation. In Rotterdam they already stated they don't want keep the alternative original paper base system.
Also the "rekening rijden" (kind of toll system) is pushed forward although the system is leaky. They have to press on.
The only thing they can do is propose more "fear" to push on. If they think you mess with the system
you get fined for 67000 euro or 4 years jail :yikes: ??
Yep sounds like a great country to me ... (not really).

I know by life experience this is a good example of a controlled society. And it's explicitly possible because of the density.
It's very easy to pull the plug in certain places and the country is de-stabilized. If during fall there are leaves on the railroad tracks
there are no trains running and the whole society is a mess within minutes.

If you are in Holland, I think it's especially time to wake up and calculate your chances. Sure it's also my country.
But patriotism doesn't help you feel human again ...

Only after then you get your mind cleared to make real progress.

Cheers

[Heretic]

I have been waiting, knowing that a time will come

and when it does come, I will know it and I will then know what to do

I have been searching for 30 years for a reason or purpose that explains this knowing

I have found no answers, just patience

what she started discussing exactly one hour into the interview nailed that feeling I have always had

I consider her a sister and I saw a kinship in her eyes, and the look in the eyes as well as many key elements of the latter half of her interview rang so true for me as I use them daily

she is the real deal or we are both crazy

I am a little jealous, I want to meet our space brothers too, heck a UFO would be grand by itself

I keep watch

I am waiting

I remain

Askuwheteau

[Isa]

Myplanet2 such a WONDERFUL post, thank you. I also agree that it is up to each of us to discern and to absorb the energy of those messages that resonate with us; regardless of the messenger 'personality' or the stories they come wrapped in.

For some reason, last November, I went into my house, closed my eyes and just breathed ~ and pretty much stayed right there for the next 8 months or so. It was unlike anything in my life before and how to explain it? I felt compelled, is all I can say. And the meditations moved me to be more and more aware that SOMETHING was going on and it was HUGE. So I kept at it.

Now I feel different tugs ~ ones that push me out into the community, into conversations about sustainability and self-reliance (as a community), and toward new relationships centered around a new way of living. I am not afraid. I am not running to the hills either; it feels fine to me right here.

Bill may be right when he says some of us seem to be being prepared for something. I had no idea last November about any of this 'stuff'. Never would I have imagined being on a message board like this and sending 'fringe-weird' videos and articles to family members about corrupt powers and earth changes, new physics, crop circles, etc. where they politely consider that I may have gone off the rails.... :winksmiley02:

Everything is different now. I no longer have the same questions. Mostly, the questions I ask are directed inward and are addressing my present circumstance. Moment by moment, I flow quietly toward a bright future. I believe it is good to be ultra-alert and aware. Yes there is grave danger all around, and UNBELIEVABLE suffering going on right now, all over the world.

So I anchor in the peace and healing energies of the universe and determine to do my part. Collectively, we cause a shift. We meet the future with a changed mindset where fear does not belong.

I don't know what Miriam feels inside as she speaks. My sense was that she was trying to choose her words carefully, and that she kept 'going inward' for direction while speaking which may seem her to sound monotone etc. I also feel that she understands the need to be strong/firm in her center and to have self-responsibility, yet this may sometimes express outwardly as a type of arrogance or self-importance to the one perceiving her. She did seem uncomfortable at times. All of this does not detract from her basic message, in my view. We are all connected, the spirit of truth flows through everything, regardless of how it is disguised. It is up to us to become familiar with its tones enough to pick it out of the noise and clatter.

Interesting thread, great reading and inspiring words all 'round! :)

[Alysse]

Four corners of the world - or four corners in the US?


four corners of the world? could someone please explain?
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[WalkingTurtle]

The more I read, hear and see the more I get confused. I know I have the skills to look someone into the eyes and I know what the person is like. And she really felt to me like a lier or at least someone knowing not telling a real story.

She was also talking about her and some other people being prepared and waiting in the background to come up when time has come. This reminds me of a preparing putsch of the governments of the world. Like preparing to take over to create a world government. Why are that people so special? We ALL are special!

At the end she mentioned seeds and all, and I was wondering if she really got the grab of reality. How shall I grow something when living in a tower block? We are just to many people here on earth, and all with different skills. There's also a very big similarity to George Green when he's talking about forming new communities. What is wrong with our current communities? There is a baker, a builder, a doctor, ... Yes, it could be restructured a little bit but that's evolution, isn't it?

I know I sound a bit too skeptic but what information shall I trust nowadays? I found that my life has been lead by some sort of path and I can see if someone wants to push me off this way. And I think, she is one of them.

It's just, I've never been given any evidence of anything about UFOs and other "strange" things. Give it to me and I will know, not just believe. And even if on October the 14th some sort UFO should appear above my house, what if that's a vehicle made by nazis?

WT

[Heretic]

The more I read, hear and see the more I get confused. I know I have the skills to look someone into the eyes and I know what the person is like. And she really felt to me like a lier or at least someone knowing not telling a real story.

I have run into this at times, and I have found that if a person is "holding back" something while you do your viewing it can seem like they are withholding truth and thus lying.

If you were to go out and talk with some friends who would think you are crazy for believing in any of this info that has brought us all here, you would have "withhold truth" and someone might tune in on that and think you are lying

dont get me wrong, trust your own intuition because I simply don't know, so I go on that intuition and experience has taught me to take several readings at different times....even different days on a person to be able to see past walls they may have up

walls that may prevent you from seeing them, as well as walls that may be keeping them from seeing themselves

its a tricky business and discernment isnt always accurate, including mine

[truthseeker]

Hi Folks,

I found the interview with Miriam Delicado both inspiring and interesting. She came across as genuine, honest and full of integrity, in my humble opinion.

So, I ask, why all the negativity about this interview? Or any other interview that Bill and Kerry have carried out, come to that? Maybe we should each of us look a little closer at ourselves before we spout negatively about this or any other witness interviewed by Bill and Kerry?

I think there may be more than a little ‘projection’ going on from many of you who post on this forum. This term will be familiar to students of psychodynamic counselling and therapy. Projection is just one version of the many psychological defense mechanisms (denial, displacement and repression are others) that we all use, to a greater or lesser extent, to avoid taking responsibility for our own life process. It is what we all do when we do not want to look too closely at our own weaknesses, failings and vulnerabilities. Instead of taking responsibility for our own life process we project outward onto those around us and blame them for problems that are at least in part of our own making. For many of us it is our partners, close family members, friends, acquaintances, neighbours and work colleagues that take the brunt of this. However, in a more collective way, as peer-groups and communities, we also project all our ‘crap’ on to those who are deemed to be outside our particular cultural group. Thus we blame Americans, British, Germans, French, Black people, Muslims, Christians, Terrorists, the Banks, Democrats, Republicans, G. W. Bush, the Pope, the Dalai Lama, New Age Guru’s, Luciferians, the Illuminati, the New World Order, the Annunaki, Nordic aliens, Grey aliens, Reptilian aliens, the Devil, God or who ever or what ever, for so many of our woes and those of the planet upon which we live. Of course there may be some truth in many of these projections. However, we have to look at our own, often passive role, in maintaining the staus quo, before becoming too judgmental about the acts of other individuals and groups.

To my mind this desire to collectively project on to others, rather than take responsibility for our own contributions to the whole life process, is what seems to be driving far too much of the critcism and negativity on this forum. The focus here for that more ‘collective projection’ (i.e. from a significant subset or ‘peer group’, of forum contributers), in addition to the list given above, often includes the witnesses that present their generally controversial ideas, beliefs, opinions and experiences to Bill and Kerry at Project Camelot. Yes there is much contradiction in the varying claims and counter-claims of different witnesses. They can not all be right? Some of their sources (human, alien or etheric) may well be in error or even deliberately spreading disinformation. The Camelot witnesses are human beings like you and I, even if they do have some amazing connections with extra-terrestrial or extra-dimensional beings. They too sometimes project their own ‘crap’ onto others. They get upset and offended sometimes and do not always present their material in the best or most credible light. So lets just give them a litle bit of rope and allow them to get it wrong sometimes. Don’t put them on a pedestal and worship there every word as the gospel truth! This is the mistake we have made with political and spiritual leaders, all too often, in the past. Then, when they fail to deliver as we have expected, they, from our perspective, fall from grace and become the very anti-thesis of what we originally set them up to be. It is also true that many spiritual leaders get too comfortable with the minions that that salivate on their every word and gesture. We set them up and they come to believe what we have projected upon them. Their egos inflate, we start to become disilusioned and then, in the end, they they begin to fall from grace. So like all of us, spiritual leaders and teachers have to retain their humility and integrity if they are going to survive the ‘Messiah Complex’ that others will project upon them. If they lose their humility and integrity, as so many do, their ‘Ego’ will take over and evenytually take them to ruin. So folks, it is essential that we all, teachers and students, look ‘within’ for the truth, as this will ultimately be a reflection of that which lies ‘without’. Or put another way, “as within, so without”, or “as above, so below”, or any variation of same.

Now then, back to Miriam.

Many here have suggested that she has told us nothing new. Well folks, I hate to tell you this, but there really is nothing new in the universe. All truth is a re-invention of what has been said before at some time (past, present or future) or place (anywhere in the universe). The problem is that we keep forgetting the truth and having to re-learn it, not only in each life-time, but also within different periods of each life-time. This seems to be part of the process of soul and/or spirit evolution. It seems that there is a need to forget, so that we can truly experience existence in the physical three dimensional form that we are so familiar with.

Miriam’s focus is very much on the present and acting now. Many here have said her message is just more doom and gloom. That is not how I see what she is saying. To my mind she was clearly saying that if we all wake up, then we can change the future for the better. Yes, we have left it too long, so many things will not be so good here on planet Earth in the near future. If we continue not to awaken, then, yes, many of the doom and gloom prophecies will come to be. Maybe we will even make ourselves extinct as a biological species. However, it is precisely because of a need to prevent such a doomsday scenario, that her Nordic contacts have now asked Miriam to come out and spread their message. The great gathering she speaks of between other contactees, like herself, and the indiginous peoples of the planet is all about bringing this more positive approach on the future to the fore. Some might ask why this has been left so long? Why not divulge it all 20 years ago when she first received the information? Well, wake up folks, look what happened to most of the contactees that came out with similar messages from the 1950’s onward. They were dismissed, debunked and ridiculed by the majority mind-set of our Capitalistic, materialistic society. It is only in recent years that a sea-change in attitude and awareness, amongst many of us, has really begun to occur. It is only now that most of us are really ready to begin to hear the truth about our origins, our present state and the possibilities for our future.

There has also been a lot of criticism here about the appearance of the entities that Miriam has been in contact with. The fact that they are tall and blond seems to worry a lot of you, leading you to wonder about some connection with the Nazi Aryan race that Hitler and his cronies wanted to create. Whilst I can understand these concerns to some degree, to dismiss these beings as having a dubious agenda on the basis of their appearance, is no better than the attitude that we humans have had toward other human races throughout much of our history. Look at how we white people treated black people in Africa when we colonised that continent. Look at how we treated the Native Americans when we colonised the Americas. Look at how we still treat many of these people today. The white, blond and blue-eyed Nordic ET’s need have no connection with the Nordic Aryans dreamt of by the Nazi 3rd Reich. In fact the Nordic ET’s special interest in, and recognition of, the indiginous peoples of this planet, most notably the Native Americans, who are red skined and of a darker complexion, rather counters this argument don’t you think? This attitude toward the Nordic ET’s is to me just another example of us vulnerable and fearful human beings projecting all of our negative ‘crap’ onto another race that we do not understand. This time though, they are a race from another planet or dimension, rather than fellow humans here on the Earth. We did not understand the Native American’s or African’s, so we feared, enslaved and killed them instead. Lets not have the same negative attitude to the Nordic ET’s!

By the way, much the same can be said, to my mind, with regard to the other alleged alien groups, such as the Grey’s and the Reptilian’s. Whitley Strieber, in his series of five books, from ‘Communion’ to ‘Confirmation’, presents a very mixed view of the ‘Grey’s’, which are the main alien form that he has encountered. Firstly, their appear to be whole variety of different beings that fall under this title. Some are tall and some are small. Some are thin, some are stout. Secondly, though at times quite cold and harsh, Strieber has had some very positive experiences with Grey aliens (he calls them the ‘Visitors’). One particular Grey alien, that pictured on the front of Communion is regarded by Strieber as one of his key spiritual teachers. So it is not a black and white scenario of Grey’s bad, Nordic Blonds good! I am quite sure that, just as there are plenty of both good and bad white, black, red and yellow human beings, there are also many examples of good and bad Nordic’s and Grey’s. The same almost certainly must apply, to my mind, to the Reptilian’s, who buy many are deemed to be the worst of the lot. Michael St.Clair has stated somewhere on this forum that he has a Reptilian bodyguard. So make of that what you will. However, to my mind it suggests that Reptilians, like Nordic’s, Grey’s and Terran’s (i.e. us) can be good, bad or anything in between. So can we please just let go of the racial bias and prejudice, that has haunted us throughout our history. Black’s, Asian’s and American Indian’s are all just as capable of racial prejudice as are the White European’s. Skin colour and general appearance must not be our measure for right and wrong or good and bad!

This brings me onto just one more other worldly group that gets a bad press. They are often referred to as robots, androids, synthetics or clones. We are told from various sources that such entities are soulless. How do we know this? Who’s to say whether such a being can or can not either generate or become a vehicle for a ‘soul’? This does seem to be the message that quite a number contactees are receiving from their sources, Nordic or otherwise! I am a great fan of Science Fiction. Key characters in many of the SF films and shows are either androids or clones. Data in “Star Trek: The Next Generation” and the human-looking Cylon characters in the re-imagined version of “Battlestar Galactica” (the best ever Sci-Fi series in my humble opinion) are two good examples of this. Then you have characters like Hal in “2001: Space Oddessy” and Azimov’s “I Robot”. In the WingMakers material, which I am now inclined to identify as a powerful mythology that may well be rooted in some factual reality, presents us with the Animus, a synthetic soulless alien race from another galaxy that will happil;y enslave us all if we get their attention. So, can such beings have souls? Why not? If our human bodies are merely vehicles for our soul in a given incarnation, then why can not a sophisticated synthetic machine house the same? When does a being become sentient enough to deserve the respect and equality of treatment that we each expect as human beings? I have no definite answers to these questions. However, let us not judge a book by its cover, whether it be human, alien or android!

Back to Miriam again. She is clearly a psychic and intuitive person who has had experiences in her life that most of us, including myself, have not. It is hard for us to entertain such experiences as being true when we have no such experiences ourselves. However, in my case I have personally known significant individuals who are extremely psychic and intuitive. I am thus convinced that they are percieving a level of reality that I have as yet been unable to experience (in this life, anyway) with any certainty. This is not for a lack of trying on my part, of course, and I have had a number of very personal experiences which are very suggestive of this higher dimensional reality. Though to be honest, I would like to have something a little more convincing at that level. However, if I don’t, then so be it, as I am sure that I will re-discover these higher levels when my current body dies. Anyway, this brings me on to my final point, which also relates to my above comments on prejudice. After that, I will shut up.

Clearly, some individuals have greater access to higher dimensions (fourth, fifth, etc.) and do seem to remember, from past lives or other realities, some of the stuff the rest of us have forgotten. Many such folk can undoubtably be found amongst the contributors to this forum. Many of the Camelot witnesses also fall into this category. However, none of them, it seems to me, have the whole picture. It is this higher dimensional awareness that we refer to as being psychic or intuitive in nature. However, to all psychics and intuitives out there, I ask you the following question. Can you always be sure that the ‘instinct’ or ‘gut feeling’ that you feel about a particular individual or group is rooted in some deeply intuitive or psychic knowing? Sometimes, I think, what passes as ‘instinct’, ‘gut feeling’, ‘intuition’ or ‘psychic awareness’, is really a reflection of some very ingrained bias and prejudice, whether that be from this life, past lives or elsewhere. This is why we all need to be so discerning in what we accept as truth, both about ourselves and others. Those of you who have strong psychic and intuitive inclinations need to be even more discerning than the rest of us. Do not always necessarily trust your ‘gut feeling’ or ‘instinct’, as it may be your own ingrained prejudice that is presenting itself rather than the more intuitive knowing you believe it to be. In my opinion, those who are more psychic or intuitive are also more vulnerable to extra-psychic influence and attack. This is why it is so important for such folk to be well grounded and to have clear boundaries. It is a fine line between a deep spiritual knowing awareness on the one hand and madness and insanity on the other. I have worked with many people with mental health problems in my life (I am a Mental Health Nurse). I have often wondered if many of these folk are very psychic and intuitive individuals that have failed to ground themselves and set up the necessary boundaries against extra-psychic influence or attack from some of the darker energies and entities of the universe. So, I guess, what I am saying to all you psychic types out there, please be careful and do not always accept what you hear from your sources at face value. There are many darker spiritual forces on the negative path out there!

I have rambled enough.

Best Wishes

Truthseeker (Andrew)

[quest]

@operator

pls tune in one the main point of my post, we all know whats wrong about this world.

[xenomorph]

i wanna see camelot interview barbara marciniak

Have you seen the interview of Barbara Marciniak done at Conscious Media Network? If not, definitely check it out. I agree that it would be great to have Bill and Kerry interview her. Her message would nicely temper some of the negative focus out there.

Peace.

[Sherab]

This is only my third post and I probably won't make any friends with it, but I gotta say that this interview was a huge disappointment (and I've watched/listend to almost all of them). In fact, I actually had to struggle to stay focused and awake while listening to Ms. Delicado's emotionless, monotonous and decidedly nebulous presentation. Almost immediately, I had a gut feeling that she was being, shall we say, disingenuous.

As far as I could tell, and aside from a couple of completely unverifiable references to events that supposedly occurred in Earth's deep dark past, she brought absolutely nothing new to the table. She simply unveiled a bland potpourri of things that are already there for anyone to partake of; things that have already been recycled and regurgitated countless times all over the internet and in print.

She kept prefacing various elements of her story as being "fascinating," and yet, her dead-pan manner belied any sense of fascination, or even excitement. Nothing she said was even remotely so, IMO. Vague and ambiguous, Yes. But "fascinating?" Well, maybe to her it was.

Totally agree with the above. Why did Bill and Kerry say this was the most important interview they've done? I have heard all this stuff multiple times from the new age movement.

I definitely get some really, really strange vibes. Especially the part about the nordics being our protectors. I would encourage people to check out alliesofhumanity.org concerning this topic (although I still haven't made up my mind about that info either).

Anyways, I am going to keep my distance from this one...

[Sherab]

Truthseeker,
Could I respectfully ask for an injection of brevity into your projection?:wink2:

[sunnyrap]

Re: seeds. Groups on both sides know they are important, especially since they are being stored underground even by the black ops boys. David Wilcock mentions in one of his P.C. interviews how even organisms whose DNA have been 'messed with' by scientists will return to normal within 5 generations. This means the native, authentic programming will always return.

I've been growing my own veggies for some time now. I've noticed that seeds from store-bought produce won't reproduce a good bit of the time. But SOME of them will! So keep sticking your seeds in the ground, take part of the fruit to reseed for the next season. You will get viable, dna-healthy produce.

[MartyMcFailure]

I just wanna say that I enjoyed the interview and found it very compelling overall and its a welcome addition to the amazing collection of interviews kerry and bill have put together.
my previous post was an acknowledgement of some good points made by clark kent about these nordics. i was just bouncing ideas off trying to make sense of this information not trying to disparage the interview/info.
The question has been for me
...Are these nordics to be trusted over the others because they r nicer it seems and beautiful in appearance?
...wouldnt it be cunning if they tricked us? i mean faced with the illuminati's cunning strategies, who knows?

:pbased on intuition i think/feel that Nordics are for the most part good guys and are who they say they are. There are perhaps a few different kinds. Orions Pleaidians Guardians of Earth so on.

:Dthe Annunaks (the reps) are cold blooded motherf---rs. But they are reptiles, so maybe we shouldnt throw stones. what would you do if you were a reptile?
:(Greys the poor guys I feel bad for them. Just pawns they look like pawns too. Why all the interest in us? Did ETs interfere with them when they were at a comparable stage? And when the talk about soul maturity arent we all infinite consciousness? how can someones soul be older than mine. if the interface (our bodys/dna) was good and we knew secrets in the third world, was it just we r rotten apples?
:starwars:

[Sherab]

I just got to the part about seeds. It's great she's saying this. Bill Mollison, the permaculture movement, and numerous environmentalists have been saying this for years. The most important thing, definitely.

[Samarkis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7z0dWmgN0

(@ 8 minutes)

This is to start a new system that would benefit the 80% of Mankind & we don't have a lot of Time.

Pls go to www.larouchepac.com to see latest on creating the 4 powers: USA,China,Russia,& India in creating sovereign countries with new systems!

Time is of the essence!

Love & Light to ALL !!!
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[carliec]

Totally agree with the above. Why did Bill and Kerry say this was the most important interview they've done? I have heard all this stuff multiple times from the new age movement.

I definitely get some really, really strange vibes. Especially the part about the nordics being our protectors. I would encourage people to check out alliesofhumanity.org concerning this topic (although I still haven't made up my mind about that info either).

Anyways, I am going to keep my distance from this one...

I feel the same way, my instinct said she is not to be trusted. I have never been wrong thus far in my life. I can see in a persons eyes when I should be on high alert. She puts that vibe off big time for me.

[raoulduke666]

Just watched the interview last night and it was defiantly interesting. I do have some doubts with few things that she said. I think it was mainly about her view on 2012 which I thought was a little fishy. Her view is if nothing happens on 2012 she will be happy about it and us (humans) would have altered the timeline. The whole alternate timeline theory always has bugged me...if whatever theory happens in 2012 happens, all the the believers would be I told you so. And if nothing happens well, weee...we all changed all of our views of love for one another and we altered the timeline. Is it just me or does it sound like an escape clause if the predictions don't come to pass?

It's like if you believe in a worldwide change in 2012 and nothing happens, well yay we altered the terrible outcome for a possible future. We can celebrate but everything we have been told about the future is false.

Just reminds of alot of predictions that havent come true that people swear it will happen. For that reason, I am skeptical on the whole 2012 predictions. Don't get me wrong. I do want something great to happen so it changes how we all live our lives but until 2012 I don't want to get my hopes up

[dragonfly]

I just came accross 3 words in another thread that are very important here,

Thanks Whitecrow!

"Learn To Discern"

I believe the real truth is in our hearts.

When I woke this morning the impression of what I have learned about mind control was very strong. End Times Programming and triggers being set in mass. Look at all those who are heading to the 14th, almost in trance. What clarkkent and others feel should not be ignored or judged as negeative. It is what they FEEL. That is all we really have to trust in. Our own guidence system.

I for one have been pulled many directions and find myself very confused a lot of the time. I do however keep coming back to my own heart for strength and discernment. I trust that is my connection tho whatever my god is, and to Mother Earth. My brain may be filled with all kinds of crap, but I trust it for survival and intelect only. It can be manipulated. My heart cannot.

A enjoyed watching Miriam's interview. I've seen her in person after her book came out. I left quite empty feeling. What hit me hard about this recording was not her eyes, but the smile at the end. Just a corner of her mouth went up on the left side and I got a weird feel from her then. Also, a question Bill politely posed asking if she was able or could go into a subject, her first response back was "The question is WILL I?"

Anyway, I am not on either side of the fence. I am glad to see some are really looking within. Question Everything and....

Learn To Discern!!

Cheers:bleh:

[Shakesbeer]

I really enjoyed this interview very much. I didn't know much of Miriam's story but it sounded like an intriguing contactee story in the very least. Listening to her, so much of what she said resonated with me. The Hopi account of what's-what in the universe is fairly close to what I believe is going on too in a sense (I'm not a doomsday'er, but I am practical). What she was talking about in terms of the various extra terrestrials really really jived with my own astral encounters. The little greys, the wrinkly greys, the Pleiadians, "other"... I like how she seemed to sincerely mean it when she said "I DON'T want to talk to you right now...". You can tell she was being very earnest when she said that. That means to me that she's not necessarily enjoying the attention, obviously isn't trying to get rich, which leads me to believe what she's saying is genuine(or in the very least it is a real experience for her). I think she did a good job of communicating her intention during that part.

Her eyes: That theory about being imbalanced? I don't buy it. Honestly I can, and do the same thing for more then one reason, and actually if you put your mind to it you can control each eye independently. I just mess with that as a fun experiment -shrugs- but I'm just kind of weird like that :D. Second & more practical, you can move your eyes about to access that quasi-meditative state that gives you access to deeper levels of memory. Sometimes the information you're "looking" for respectively isn't in one "focused" place like the lay face reading stuff you'll learn on tv or that many modern academics tell you. I sort of theorize it has to do with psycho kinetic energy generated by syncing up the brain using perceptional direction. Like darting your eyes in a rapid fashion...or rapid eye movement(aka REM) And we all know the "wackiness" that goes on in that state of mind ;)

Another way to sync to that meditative state of mind while awake and functioning is to un-focus and drift apart the eyes in some way, almost like splitting your conscious visual perception while maintaining a central "control". Like trying to retrieve an old memory you long forgot from the first time you tried an ice cream cone for example. It's there, somewhere, even if on that "information layer" or "akashic records", you just gotta access it somehow. That doesn't mean you have to sit there cross-eyed, but even a quick "matrix wobble" effect using that technique can knock your senses into that "mode" or brain state if you know what you're doing.

Just like she essentially eluded to, when you have to focus specifically on direct communication &/or identification no matter this "waking reality" or in dreams/projections; the eyes will tell you what you need to know if you know how to look. When she needed to say something directly too Bill, Kerry, or the camera, notice how she got very focused then? Yeah, she's been on a trip and has seen some serious reality-rocking stuff...very cool interview.

Here's an interesting thing I've learned in my own astral travels (AKA Dreaming, Lucid Dreaming, Astral Projection, whatever...) that works against malicious entities be-they earthly or extra terrestrial, which is white light. Pure white light. You don't need to pray to anything or anyone, just think of the purest white light imaginable. If you're a spiritual person think of this as your soul energy, if you're a science-minded person think of it as that theorized heart "zero point" energy source. So if an ET is trying to impose it's will on you and will not identify itself, or tell you it's intention, show them that you can use that light, and they will instantly respect you more... ;)

How do you use the light? that's up to you, on the astral plane you can literally do anything. So it can be in the form of a torch, a candle, you can make fireballs with your hands, you can glow, you can create a shield, the possibilities are literally endless. You'll be surprised how much of this matrix we actually capable of bending.

[Carrie1971]

[QUOTE=Norval;27686]http://projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html


I was able to have time to watch it. My over view of what stuck out to me was her time line when in line with the contact times others are having. It FITS. The NOW thing she spoke of that just one day you wake up and have the NEED to DO it NOW..

The Dark side... I have my own idea that this whole undergrond thing is real, I have that from my own inside feelings is what I will say. I also think in my head that many of the "governements" contact has been with the Dark side. Not just our governement but all the ones who have had contact. However in the film she gave you a VERY good point.. LOOK into the eyes. All of our eyes hold the seat of the soul and if it is a bad thing it shows. Use your own feelings..


There is ONE huge key to her talk and as a person who grows much of our own food I have to agree the seeds are in danger. So many "Big" companies have been selling hybrid seed and this cannot be saved for the next crop. My Grandma many years ago was doing a seed saving from the store bought food she ended up with some of the stranges melons I have ever seen.

I suggest you think about your food needs and get at least a 9 month supply on hand. Rotate your stock.. It will cost a bunch of money to do this getting a years supply of food in your house can be a challenge but one I think is worth the investment... THEN do your normal buying as long as you can and re-supply with the new items so the stock is still there.

Sorry I got off track there with that...

I have to get off here for today.. Hope all of you are having a great day.

On an ending note remember life is a gift and laugh please if you need a laugh check this out..

http://www.fancast.com/tv/The-Daily-Show-With-Jon-Stewart/89142/868164997/The-Daily-Show-with-Jon-Stewart-92508/videos

[Carrie1971]

Sorry I got off track there with that...

I have to get off here for today.. Hope all of you are having a great day.

On an ending note remember life is a gift and laugh please if you need a laugh check this out..

http://www.fancast.com/tv/The-Daily-Show-With-Jon-Stewart/89142/868164997/The-Daily-Show-with-Jon-Stewart-92508/videos[/QUOTE]

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is a HOOT... This was the show from Sept. 25 and I really thing we can all get a good laugh out of this.

Remember the money is FIAT and it is nothing.. Smoke and Mirrors..

[Operator]

pls tune in one the main point of my post, we all know whats wrong about this world.

Then what is the main point of your post ?
You wanted to emphasize that you do not like the cataclysmic views of some interviewees ...

Then you give a simple example of how positive things can be ...

1. to my opinion your facts and thus the example is skewed
2. you are right ! We don't need cataclysmic views, it's already bad enough as is demonstrated by my comments
3. I posted elsewhere in other threads that I am getting tired of all the endless debating. We need to start doing !

At some point I don't blame the interviewees emphasizing on cataclysmic events. It looks like people do not START doing otherwise.

I think that some people think they are awake but they are NOT
That's an even more dangerous situation ...

I appreciate your positive approach though:thumb_yello:

[SIR GALAHAD]

I'll start by saying that although I do believe in ET's, I disbelieve 95% of the stuff that's floating around out there concerning our otherworldy companions, most of this information is either rehashed or seems to have no real foundation whatsoever, so in this case I guess you could say I'mma tough sell.

I wasn't sold with this interview either, before I lay out the reasons why, I just want to say quickly that I don't mean to stir any angry emotions in anyone here, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I respect anyone elses opinions and I also respect Mariam. Now, onto the reasons:

Mariam started off with excuses about how she doesn't want to be doing this disclosure so to speak.
A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth. Whats to fear? A person who is truly “spiritual” for lack of a better term, and who's speaking 100% truth would have no quams about how others would judge them. Especially if the message was of great importance.


On an emotional level, I just didn't get any feelings of genuine compassion from the speaker. Infact I picked up a lot of arrogant undertones due to many statements such as “no one is perfect, not even myself”, or “even I have problems with this stuff”. These type of statements tend to suggest she raises herself above “normal” people. Having a high opinion of oneself is important, but should never be based on comparison of others.


Finaly, nothing new was said that can't be found somewhere on the internet or in books. Nothing truly genuine. Of course this does not mean that she is not being honest, it's just a fact.

Despite this I do think Mariam is a great person at the end of the day, she had a positive message, aside from the scary nazi blonde hair blue eye resonance as others picked up on, and she does not mean to portray any truly menevolent harm that I detected.

I think the best lesson to be learned from all of these interviews, is we should never take anyones word or views as absolute truth. That's something we must experience on a personal level.

you have sumed this is brillantly thank you .

[khepran]

What she says resonates as the truth. The Native peoples of the world really had it going on in terms of harmony w/ nature, society, societies of others, etc. The technology still exists! The knowledge and traditions are still alive and being passed down. I want that knowledge...you know?

Miriam's talk about the numerous creations of humankind relate to the information in another exteamly interesting interview, which to me also feels like the truth;

http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index3.html

Thanks a million again to Bill and Kerry, I love you both. Thanks also Miriam, I love you, too.

[peacelovinman]

The message resonated with me even if the lady didn't. There is something about her manner that made me veer between discomfort and a hypnotic state as I gazed into those beautiful, if a little unnerving, eyes.

The message is what we have been hearing from contactees for many years.

The "twist" at the end surprised me. I agree that "seeds" are the key. In my opinion, we need to begin on a local level to encourage people to grow their own food. Anything from digging up their own lawn to community gardens.

Miriam mentions that certain people feel "stirred" into action at this time - the proof that this is correct is here on this forum!

But what action do we take for the best...?

And where do we need to be located to be safe in the years to come...?

[clarkkent]

i feel there might be a bit of backlash agaisnt the video (which didnt resonate with me-good message but fear based)

anyhow dan burisch's stargate/cleanshphere/looking glass interview and david wilcocks theories of ascension/DNA etc seemed much more revelatory so i think the community was a little let down with miriam (beyond her vibe)
just because we've seen the cataclysm/get back to nature material (for me) in more compelling ways elsewhere.

im curious to see why bill and kerry seem set to go down the path of cataclysm "end times" interviews when theyve got other material and interviewees with a different outlook.

i know its nuts and bolts and practical, but i feel it would do more good to tell people the best way to organize people in areas of chaos and perhaps cities and how to keep a spiritually focused outlook for areas of confusion instead of nature survival guides and where to move so you wont die.

im not slagging them off, they come from a place of love and knowledge- im just raising points i think are valid. maybe we can have an area for suggestions on what to do if you plan on staying in the cities or suburbs instead of just writing those areas off as toast as well as their inhabitants.

-kyle

[clarkkent]

And where do we need to be located to be safe in the years to come...?

this is what i mean...maybe the ground crew can be more than just where to run to.

[Operator]

But what action do we take for the best...?


Be more conscious about consumption and pollution etc. Be aware e.g. where your food is coming from. More ideally grow your own food and/or
build your own house when possible e.g.
Be an example to others by demonstrating these kind of changes.


And where do we need to be located to be safe in the years to come...?
The more changes you make as mentioned above the more independent you become from control of rulers. This is already
a form of safety ... :wink2:

[Shakesbeer]

you have sumed this is brillantly thank you .
"A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth."

Yeah dude, try it...seriously, try it. How can you judge someone without actually being in that exact position? You can say I would do this, or you should do that, but you don't know until it's you.

I honestly didn't want to write what I did about astral travel etc, but it seems like it's more real then any of us truly understand yet. I have information & knowledge I've picked up while being a lucid dreamer that I know can help us all in the coming times here. But it makes you sound "crazy" it's not an easy thing to just come out and say necessarily. But I hear people like Dr. Deagle and even the way Dan Burisch speaks of pan dimensional entities and it's a trip to know how much power we truly have as humans. It is all just unrealized. I'm a subscriber to that "convergence" concept David Wilcock talks about and I arrived at that concept independently too which was ultra cool. If that's even fractionally or metaphorically true, freedom is about to ring baby-yeah! ;)

Now you have her talking about hanging out with ET's; how easy of a story is that going to be to swallow for anyone let alone have to be the person telling the story?

[Richard T]

Disappointment stems from expectations.
Expectations rules the way people judge, it is a projection.

Like humanity projects its psychology to interpret consciousness in the universe, the individual projects his psychology to interpret his relationships.

This creates expectations.

And a lot of disappointments.

Expectations means that people do not listen to what someone says, but listen to find out what a person might say. And the judgement already exists even before they have started to listen, for it is already decided if they will agree.

People judge, they do not listen.

Listening does not mean agreeing, it does not mean disagreeing, it means that all attention is turned toward the speaker, therefore no judgement takes place.

People do not listen, They are in a state of expectation.

So they sort things out using what they already expected as a yardstick.

The responsibility of a conversation always falls on the shoulders of the listener.

Some will argue, NO, No, no... it also depends on the qualities of the speaker.

No matter what the qualities of the speaker are, if there is no ear for his words, there is no conversation. And, if the listener is engaged by the abilities, rather than by the information, he is looking forward to a show. He wants to be impressed. He wants to feel power. He wants to feel an agreement. He wants to be nourished.

So, he expects a performance. He is not neutral, he wants to be satisfied.

Reality cannot please the ego. Real information is never pleasant to the ego. Because it has to come from a field that is outside of his mentality. Otherwise, the ego would have had all the answers a long time ago, if reality was within his field of mentation.

The ego can only be shocked and his expectations dissolved when faced with reality.

Until that time when he can no longer be disappointed, or surprised, or impressed.

Expectation is driven by a need to be fed with something to believe. Reality is the imposition of something that is unbelievable.

[Richard T]

There is not a single information coming from the astral that is valid, unless you have the ascendancy over the intelligences that reside in that plane, in which case they have no choice but to answer to you.

Not one information.

[moonwalker22]

This is only my third post and I probably won't make any friends with it, but I gotta say that this interview was a huge disappointment (and I've watched/listend to almost all of them). In fact, I actually had to struggle to stay focused and awake while listening to Ms. Delicado's emotionless, monotonous and decidedly nebulous presentation. Almost immediately, I had a gut feeling that she was being, shall we say, disingenuous.

As far as I could tell, and aside from a couple of completely unverifiable references to events that supposedly occurred in Earth's deep dark past, she brought absolutely nothing new to the table. She simply unveiled a bland potpourri of things that are already there for anyone to partake of; things that have already been recycled and regurgitated countless times all over the internet and in print.

She kept prefacing various elements of her story as being "fascinating," and yet, her dead-pan manner belied any sense of fascination, or even excitement. Nothing she said was even remotely so, IMO. Vague and ambiguous, Yes. But "fascinating?" Well, maybe to her it was.
Well, I sure appreciate your honesty. I have watched all the interviews on Project Camelot also ( Bill and Kerry - thanks so much for your work!) This one seemed bland in comparison. Her energy is a little weird. She seems sincere. but I have heard much more indepth and profound info relating to this topic from other sources. I feel like the earth is an incredibly complex school. Some are getting their Masters, and some are freshmen. I am very cautious about other races intervention. Intervention seems to be a cosmic no-no. Thats all I'll say for now. It is nice to read a forum where many diverse opinions are allowed.

[chelmostef]

Hi all

I have just listened to the interview.
With relevance to seeds. Seeds could be as equally as importaint as gold and silver. And planting the seeds of thought in others equally important.

[Blufire77]

Okay this is my two cents worth on the “SEED” comments about Miriam’s interview.

Yes, it is emphatically true that we should be planting gardens and growing our own food. Especially the need to use only standard or heirloom seed that grows best in each area of the world. We could even get into the enormously tragic fact that genetically modified seeds (GMO’s) are destroying the eco-balance of our food, causing major illnesses in humans, animals and insects (like the honey bees). The seed vaults also would come into this line of discussion.

I do not believe she was explicitly talking about growing our food. During the first part of the interview and a couple times during she spoke about the “tall blonde” ET’s coming here to earth and “casting seeds” or she also referred to this as the “spark of life”. She brought up “seeds” several times in her interview. I feel she was talking about the “seeding” of all planets and that only the “life forms” that were able to evolve enough to become more and more enlightened on each planet were “allowed” to continue to live and evolve. Remember she said that life here on earth was wiped out at least twice before we evolved. Perhaps this time we are in now is the next “testing” to see who among us are ready to transform or go to the next stage. . . .Perhaps she was somewhat cryptic in her interview to open the door to those who are “able to hear”. She said “it is all about the seeds” . . . . a metaphor?

Personally I was struck very deeply by many things she said and by her demeanor and most of all her eyes. Maybe it is difficult for us to relate to her because the last twenty years of her life was vastly different than the average person.

Maybe for me it was her account of the “ball of light” about the size of a basketball that followed her. Perhaps I feel a melding with her because I have my own story about a “ball of light” that followed me in the mountains where I grew up.

[quest]

'operator', this is what i wrote:
i do appreciate the work you and karry doing, i enjoyed listening to all the interviews a lot. but why hammering on the doom scenario’s so much. it sometimes feels to me you're, with all good intentions, serving an other agenda, one that is not serving us at all.
and my post was in now way meant patriotic, we're galactic beings as far as i am concerned. i disagreed with bill's comments on world population etc.
i am convinced that if we listen to nature, to ourselves, earth will restore, overpopulation will reduce, its all a natural process. nature seeks for balance, and will find balance, its up to us if we join in. earth can be a heavenly place.

btw, i was raised with food fresh from the garden.
presently here are two bio (one dynamic) nurseries within walking-distance. all organically grown food just around the corner. yes, a privilege, but i might move, whatever happens.
for 25 years studying and practicing ecological building and design, just a start though, organic design used to be a mainstream joke, things are changing finally.

[moonwalker22]

im surprised more people arent taken aback with all the "coincidences" ive pointed out, not that i have great insight, but is noone else dumbfounded with these facts about "nordic blondes" or "P52 orions" or that she even said what i theorized about the greys as being more "like robots"

isnt ANYONE wigged out that blondehaired blueeyed beings are feeding info to certain contactees from a certain genetic backround? (swiss or german)

does NO ONE find it odd that the illuminati/nazi's have envisioned this exact master race/servant relationship? svali the illumunati defector has also said they play "concentration camp" as kids and have killed minorities at times in their rituals.

i copied and pasted this

"
Michael Mott describes the attributes of the underground people. Mostly Reptilian humanoids or " fair " and Nordic: They are telepathic with superior mental powers. Can shape-shift and create illusions: They want to interbreed with humans and need human blood, flesh and reproductive materials; They have advanced technology, they can FLY by themselves or with their technology, want to keep their true idenity a secret, they covertly manipulate events on the surface world.

Hitler said this to an aide: "in the future there will be a class of overlords, after them the rank and file of the party members in hierarchical order, and the great mass of anonymous followers, servants and workers in perpetuity, and beneath them again all the conquered foreign races, the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak. The new man is living among us now. I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him."



i have heard no decent theories to explain any of my questions, most people just ignore what im saying. I have no theories to explain your questios, but I think the questions are important ones. I have read much on the Nazi's and Hitlers rule, trying to figure out how something that evil could happen here, and what the purpose of all that suffering could possibly be. I don't have answers, but I am very cautious about channeled or contact material. I also believe it very important to overcome fear - which serves no useful purpose, except to warn of immediate danger. To understand there is a great evil as well as a great good seems to me to be a sign of spiritual maturity. To pretend there is no evil will not help you grow strong. To dwell on the evil will make you spiritully ill. Just my oponion, here. So there's a fine line. There is some truth to the statement "be careful not to stare too long into the abyss, least the abyss stare back." Some attention you don't want.

[Lotus]

Just curious why this was flagged as so important?

I listened to the audio file and like some others here felt rather skeptical and wary. Seemed like a little too much in love with her own story, maybe too much ego.

At one point she talked about some prevailing issues like food scarcity, diseases and oil price escalation and commented this could all be easily solved. Really?

I know this is probably a judgmental observation, but I'm picking up a young soul excited about delivering insights that many of us are familiar with. Great for those just opening up, a reminder for those who have delved deeper.

Would I bank on it as "The Truth." No.

[Phtha]

Yeah dude, try it...seriously, try it. How can you judge someone without actually being in that exact position? You can say I would do this, or you should do that, but you don't know until it's you.


Because once you rise above ego centric consciousness you no longer care what others think about you. The only way to rise above your ego is to live
an honest life and get in tune with your intuition or inner voice or
the Divine Presence or whatever you want to call it.
You learn that you have no control over what others think so why let it bother you? So long as you're sure that your path is Truth.

Sure you can choose to let your idea of what pleases other people dictate
you actions, but that is living the dishonest path. It's easy to spot in others
once you learn what to look for.

Do you think Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Jesus, or other like minded people cared
what others thought of them? They knew they were right, that is all that should matter.

[Mike_Jetson]

I watched it all the way through on google, was enjoyable to watch. I do think Bill that maybe the hype created higher expectations.

I didnt find any parts of it that I mistrusted. Seemed genuine to me.

I have gone and bought a second hand copy of her book which unfortunately was a result of her lack of elaborating on certain things. Just as she was getting her teeth into something I was expecting some wild piece of information and it never came.

Loads of foreplay and maybe not enough action.

Im hoping that you could tell me about any parts that were edited out. Others have mentioned doom and gloom but I never feel this anymore no matter what I see, read or hear. My only concern for the last few months has been making financial plans, maybe trying to sell and buy somewhere with land and I have been paying attention to older family members who grow food and am very much looking forward to doing that. Right now growing your own food is not cheaper if you are trying to grow a wide range and some things you cant just put in the ground and rely on the sun, well not here in England anyway so costs are generally higher unless you are doing it in a more communal way with several families or groups and so...

I was really pleased when she spoke of seeds and learning to grow food again.

So again my only concern was that she stopped short of the mark when giving us the juicy details. We are sop used to having it good here when people speak of other beings and give amazing descriptions and full and frank details of what was said etc. Maybe it just wasnt long enough or maybe you may have acidentily edited the odd small part out that may have had an impact (which i highly doubt). Either way it may have made too many people want more who cant or wont attempt the book.

Im bad at reading books so hopefully i will manage it. I have Cosmic Explorers here by Courtney Brown and still havnt got into it.

Anyway thanks for getting Miriam on but if theres a chance of doing another with her if she some new info or extra words definately take it for sure please :)

[Operator]

i am convinced that if we listen to nature, to ourselves, earth will restore, overpopulation will reduce, its all a natural process. nature seeks for balance, and will find balance, its up to us if we join in. earth can be a heavenly place.


Thanks, quest ... I agree with you 100% !
We're on the same page after all

I am also glad to hear from you that you are in the mode of 'doing'

Cheers

[goody8504]

clarkkent, excellent points. i had a thought as i was reading your original post from this thread. these blonde haired, blue eyed people seem to keep contacting people who aren't necessarily looking for the information. in fact, miriam even suggested that she didn't even want the information initially. it makes more sense to me that if they really wanted to share information with people, then they would contact people who have been actively searching for this type of information and give it to the those people, rather than just finding people and saying "we'll give you this information, but you have to agree to pass it on."

[goody8504]

I feel the same way, my instinct said she is not to be trusted. I have never been wrong thus far in my life.

never? that seems hard to believe. if that's the case then bill and kerry might as well just interview you since you seem to have a pretty good grasp on things. i know it would save me a lot of time and effort. come on, we all make mistakes

[FoxForceFive]

Like many here, I didn't quite know what to make of her. For example, whenever she said "this was fascinating", I couldn't make out what was fascinating about it, like when someone tries to tell you a joke but doesn't deliver the punchline properly. This shouldn't be happening, considering the mindblowing content of the material itself. I do think she is well-intentioned though. I'm starting to watch the Monsanto documentary now. I knew they were a corrupt outfit, but the Roundup thing is an eye-opener, considering all the school ground caretakers we have known in our area have all died of cancer. I wouldn't be surprised if it's been due to overexposure to something toxic like Roundup.

[NancyV]

I very much appreciated and enjoyed Miriam's story. She obviously feels a sense of responsibility to accomplish her mission as she understands it to be at this time. She has much depth and gravitas. Because she does not come across as a being of lightness and joy it's to be expected that many will be uncomfortable with her message. She feels somewhat heavy about the burden of her knowledge and others pick up on that.

Her mission is not mine, but I fully appreciate what she is doing. We will not all be attracted to the same information because we have different lessons to learn in this life. There is no reason other than insecurity of the ego to fear, attack or diminish the path of another. Our destination is the same and each of us will get there by following our predestined path.

As far as caring what a non-human being looks like, that consideration seems inappropriate to me. I only consider what they feel like, what their vibrational frequency is, what their intentions are. Considering "looks" as a valid criteria for judgement of positive or negative intentions is superficial, shallow and most often leads to a miscalculation. It definitely reinforces separation.

Nancy

[moonwalker22]

Disappointment stems from expectations.
Expectations rules the way people judge, it is a projection.

Like humanity projects its psychology to interpret consciousness in the universe, the individual projects his psychology to interpret his relationships.

This creates expectations.

And a lot of disappointments.

Expectations means that people do not listen to what someone says, but listen to find out what a person might say. And the judgement already exists even before they have started to listen, for it is already decided if they will agree.

People judge, they do not listen.

Listening does not mean agreeing, it does not mean disagreeing, it means that all attention is turned toward the speaker, therefore no judgement takes place.

People do not listen, They are in a state of expectation.

So they sort things out using what they already expected as a yardstick.

The responsibility of a conversation always falls on the shoulders of the listener.

Some will argue, NO, No, no... it also depends on the qualities of the speaker.

No matter what the qualities of the speaker are, if there is no ear for his words, there is no conversation. And, if the listener is engaged by the abilities, rather than by the information, he is looking forward to a show. He wants to be impressed. He wants to feel power. He wants to feel an agreement. He wants to be nourished.

So, he expects a performance. He is not neutral, he wants to be satisfied.

Reality cannot please the ego. Real information is never pleasant to the ego. Because it has to come from a field that is outside of his mentality. Otherwise, the ego would have had all the answers a long time ago, if reality was within his field of mentation.

The ego can only be shocked and his expectations dissolved when faced with reality.

Until that time when he can no longer be disappointed, or surprised, or impressed.

Expectation is driven by a need to be fed with something to believe. Reality is the imposition of something that is unbelievable.The thread asks for peoples views on the interview. And thats what the thread is ....peoples views on the interview. Ego -mongering aside, there is such a thing as intuition, gut reaction, those are individual responses, and valid to the thread topic.

[feeler]

Miriam, when being shown the underground 'ugly' beings (reptilians?), Miriam's reaction was one of apathy ("oki doki").

In contrast, Alex Collier, when describing the underground 'ugly' beings, cringed his teeth, showing his frustration and his concern for others.

[DeadDeadDead]

I agree with the message that we all have the ability to make our place better and all we have to do is do something about it. But I was very underwhelmed with the interview. Kerry & Bill said it was their best interview to date but I kept thinking is this really the best they've got?

I don't doubt the story or the message at all, I just didn't hear anything really good. Nothing to inform me or make me go do some research. It just seemed like a good story, and that's all, a story. A story, almost predictable. I wished B & K asked more questions.

I guess I like the more detailed whistle blower interviews like Fulford, Green, or Deacon. I enjoyed the Wilcock interview, he talked about his life and told his story but he also talked about how he learned about things and the research behind all the stuff. I guess I prefer the ones where they go into the hows and whys the world is the way it is, how things work and the where things have come from or how they evolved, and also where we can go from here.

I'm not meaning this to be negative, I just try to be completely honest with myself and the people around me. I support Bill & Kerry fully and I applaud their efforts.

[eleni]

As a long time abductee (one whom the late John Mack researched and wrote about) I hard a hard time myself connecting to her *story*. With that said, my experiences have not been with the Nordics and I honestly felt that her information provided little substance. It did not resonate with me.

[pilot]

Miriam is Canadian...most of the people interviewed on PC were European or American right? OK, I know this sounds maybe a little strange but when I hear people making comments about Miriam being "off", "strange vibe" etc. I can't help but think it has something to do with her nationality. I have NEVER met a Canadian who seemed... ummm, well how can I put this-they are a very distinctive people in a very subtle way that I can't define...if you Canucks out there can either agree or disagree we might get to the bottom of this.

I think of the films out of Canada, the musicians, etc...you guys are different than people in the states-and I have a hard time putting my finger on it but I know it's true, so when I watched the vid of Miriam, I kept reminding myself of that and not letting her delivery of the message get to me. She's Canadian. That's all.

God Bless Canada!

[Shakesbeer]

Do you think Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Jesus, or other like minded people cared
what others thought of them? They knew they were right, that is all that should matter.

So because that's how they acted that's how everyone is supposed to act? Maybe she and others don't enjoy speaking about these types of topics because you get abused and "spiritually" judged...like what I keep hearing from you for instance. If you don't like what she's saying fine, but you're no more in the position to judge her validity as a "messenger" then anyone else here. Especially considering the message she gave wasn't a bad one, so what's the problem? Or is it just your problem and ego?
________

On the subject of blond/blue-eyed beings: I remember my own encounter with 4 fairly tall blond females with Dune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(novel))-style super blue eyes that didn't seem like they where from around here if you know what I mean. It was during a lucid dream experience but what was extra odd was that at one point I know I'm having conversations with them in a place where I couldn't understand everything they where saying, nor remember all that I replied. It was like a bridge into the future as well as taking place in "zero time" I guess it could be called. So I was consciously aware I was talking to these beings but I wasn't "allowed" to necessarily hear or remember then entire experience. It was pretty strange I must say, positive, but strange...

And yeah she(Miriam) pretty much said the same thing that we always hear, that should maybe tell us something when a bunch of people independently come up with the same thing, even if generally. If you want a lot of information on the ET motivations, I highly recommend this article on www.exopolitics.org (http://www.exopolitics.org) called:

A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity (http://www.exopolitics.org/Report-ET-Motivations.htm)

By Mike E. Salla (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guests/152.html), Phd

Her "apathetic" expression doesn't indicate lying, or callousness necessarily, it indicates understanding. Like what the characters talked about in that movie Platoon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091763/) about a solider who's been in the field during serious combat, they get a "1000 mile stare". It's a state of acceptance in a sense.

[droid56]

Canadians are a pretty diverse people. Some are perhaps more restrained in their style of communication than some Americans, but there's lots of exceptions to that rule (eg Howie Mandel, the quiz show host, and Paul Schaffer, Letterman's band leader, etc)

I think what's more likely is that people have different personalities, and Miriam's personality is not emotional in nature. But that doesn't make her a phony.

I don't think her body language and vocal delivery should be the focus of people's assessment of her veracity.

In my opinion, people should evaluate her message.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. I believe she had the experiences she describes. It is possible she has been fooled as to the real motivations of the ETs she interacted with, but I don't think she's a phony.

[astraya]

I have NEVER met a Canadian who seemed... ummm, well how can I put this-they are a very distinctive people in a very subtle way that I can't define...if you Canucks out there can either agree or disagree we might get to the bottom of this.

I think of the films out of Canada, the musicians, etc...you guys are different than people in the states-and I have a hard time putting my finger on it but I know it's true, so when I watched the vid of Miriam, I kept reminding myself of that and not letting her delivery of the message get to me. She's Canadian. That's all.

God Bless Canada!

I agree, we are very different from Americans. And we do take some pride in that. What I appreciate about most Canadians is that they are guileless and are very good at making fun of themselves. Could be why many famous Comedians are Canadian?

The something you can't put your finger on is that we are so used to being the brunt of jokes by Americans that we just laugh and have our own jokes about why someone would want to act condescendingly to someone else.

It reminds me of the younger brother who was picked on by the older, bully brother but grows up to be better looking and have a much more likable personality.

Just being completely honest.

[pilot]

Thanks Astraya- I'm not just making this up-we agree, and I appreciate the fact that not all Canadians are the same, think kd lang and celine dion....k?

Gosh, as far as being rational and well adjusted-you guys are much further along, I think. If anyone from the US is condescending-please. We are a mess. I have longed to live in a stable society like Canada. People from here go to Europe and wear Maple leaf garb to avoid getting bashed. No kidding.

[pilot]

Canadians are a pretty diverse people. Some are perhaps more restrained in their style of communication than some Americans, but there's lots of exceptions to that rule (eg Howie Mandel, the quiz show host, and Paul Schaffer, Letterman's band leader, etc)

I think what's more likely is that people have different personalities, and Miriam's personality is not emotional in nature. But that doesn't make her a phony.

I don't think her body language and vocal delivery should be the focus of people's assessment of her veracity.

In my opinion, people should evaluate her message.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt. I believe she had the experiences she describes. It is possible she has been fooled as to the real motivations of the ETs she interacted with, but I don't think she's a phony.

I agree her delivery is beside the point for whatever reason-I think the hype and expectations had a lot to do with the lukewarm response. I too wish more questions had been asked but overall she reiterated a lot of things heard before so it failed to make an enormous splash. eh, next.

[astraya]

As far as Miriam's message goes, one point in particular resonated with me. I also feel a calling, not on such a large scale, to do my soul's work right now and spread the message that we have a choice in how the story turns out. Not to get swallowed up by fear but to plan for the future while keeping a happy and peaceful state of mind.

I happened to be of some German ancestry as well as Scottish and English. I have very blonde hair but green eyes. But most importantly I feel the messengers, guides etc. are going to be from an interesting time astrologically.

"The conjunction between Pluto and Uranus went on for much of the
1960s. Pluto was in Virgo most of 1958-71, and Uranus was in Virgo most of
1961-68. Given an 8° orb, the conjunction was in range most of 1962-1969,
though it was an out-of-sign conjunction during parts of 1968-69. With all this
overlap, there’s almost no such thing as a pure Uranus in Virgo or a pure Pluto in
Virgo type—they are merged energies, married to one another for better and for
worse.
There were a number of aspects between the outer planets during that
complex era. The slow-moving aspects from Pluto and Uranus to Neptune in
Scorpio and Chiron in Pisces form part of the intricate collective psychology of
the Sixties group. They, more than any ordinary astrological generation or
subgeneration, are striving to integrate the transpersonal energies of all the outer
planets at once, a Herculean task to pull off in any one lifetime! Despite the
inherent difficulties in their collective assignment, many of them do achieve this
integration to a depth and with a degree of integrity that utterly humbles me.
Their early years were spent in a climate of activism for the rights of
women, ethnic minorities, and various disadvantaged groups, as well as
significant developments in employment legislation. Having worked with them as
astrology clients for many years, I believe that many idealistic and advanced
souls were drawn into incarnation at that moment in time precisely because
there seemed to be so much hope for humanity."
from Donna Cunningham

This doesn't mean that everyone born during that time will feel a calling. But if you have inner planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) tied into the outer-planet configurations you may feel moved to be a part of the momentum that is happening right now.

Also, I recently had a dream that I was taking on to a spaceship but throughout the whole dream I was very lucid and so I also resonated with her advice that we have a choice in "contact" situations.

[crowmirror]

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[Carol]

Years ago I had a dear friend who used to talk about a neighbor who was taken and how they would float him down the stairs and through a solid door. When I first heard this story I thought her neighbor was a nutter and did not want to hear any more. The reality of the situation was more then I was prepared to handle and the thought of something/someone/alien having that amount of control over one terrified me. This was many, many years ago.

Then I had a client come who was an abductee. I really knew nothing on how to work with someone who was being taken and began to read up on everything I could get my hands on. This client had all of the posttraumatic stress symptoms of someone who had clearly gone through emotional trauma.

Through my work with her I began to understand the nature of what it meant to be taken and used for genetic alien hybridization program.

During the past 10 years I've since had contact with numerous contactees of one sort or another. What I observed is that they tended to fall into two groups; those who were taken against their will and often had their memories suppressed; and those who were invited and had almost total recall of their experiences.

I've even met people who claim to be alien hybrids and some who are star seeds. I've been fortunate to talk with Alex Collier, Paola Harris, Victoria Lindquist and many others who are in the midst of this unusual circumstance.

It took me years to accept that aliens are real. Years. It took years to investigate the information that is out there and digest what this means to me on a personal level.

What is valuable about Miriam's interview is that each person has an opportunity to see just how far he or she are from a truth that is much bigger then all of us. If one were to think of the ocean, some folks would be far out in the distant horizon. Others would be bobbing up in down in the swells as the water prepares to move toward the shoreline. Fewer people would be riding the crest of the wave like a surfer shooting the unfurling curl, and fewer yet would be in splashing in the foam bubbling upon the sandy shore.

And then there are those folks who are like Miriam. These are the visionaries who are the eagles riding the air currents high above us sharing their vision of what they have seen above and below.

We are honored to have such gifted trailblazers guiding us to our birthright. After all, aren’t we made from the stuff of the stars? Don’t you think it’s time we drop our fear like the heavy mantle that it is and walk freely into the light? Don’t you think it is time for us to accept that our star brothers and sisters are real and just waiting for us to find our way to them…. and to welcome them?

This is our gift from Miriam, Alex Collier and the others who have seen, touched and been with these beings. They are the witnesses. They are here to remind us that we are much more then we could possibly imagine. They are also here to encourage us to claim our birthright and walk among those who would have us as the brothers and sisters that we already are.

Not too long ago I too had an experience that altered my perception regarding aliens. From that experience it became clear to me that aliens are also on a spiritual path just as we are and all of us take this journey in our own unique way.

I have also recently read unpublished reports from the Vatican and elsewhere. Aliens are real. They’re here. It’s time to recognize this reality and accept it.

Next, it’s time to really sit down and keep listening to Miriam’s interview until new levels of understanding emerge. It’s time to really move beyond fear and be free.

[pilot]

pilot....are you for real....:mfr_lol:

sure, kinda...:lol3:

[pilot]

As far as Miriam's message goes, one point in particular resonated with me. I also feel a calling, not on such a large scale, to do my soul's work right now and spread the message that we have a choice in how the story turns out. Not to get swallowed up by fear but to plan for the future while keeping a happy and peaceful state of mind.

I happened to be of some German ancestry as well as Scottish and English. I have very blonde hair but green eyes. But most importantly I feel the messengers, guides etc. are going to be from an interesting time astrologically.

"The conjunction between Pluto and Uranus went on for much of the
1960s. Pluto was in Virgo most of 1958-71, and Uranus was in Virgo most of
1961-68. Given an 8° orb, the conjunction was in range most of 1962-1969,
though it was an out-of-sign conjunction during parts of 1968-69. With all this
overlap, there’s almost no such thing as a pure Uranus in Virgo or a pure Pluto in
Virgo type—they are merged energies, married to one another for better and for
worse.
There were a number of aspects between the outer planets during that
complex era. The slow-moving aspects from Pluto and Uranus to Neptune in
Scorpio and Chiron in Pisces form part of the intricate collective psychology of
the Sixties group. They, more than any ordinary astrological generation or
subgeneration, are striving to integrate the transpersonal energies of all the outer
planets at once, a Herculean task to pull off in any one lifetime! Despite the
inherent difficulties in their collective assignment, many of them do achieve this
integration to a depth and with a degree of integrity that utterly humbles me.
Their early years were spent in a climate of activism for the rights of
women, ethnic minorities, and various disadvantaged groups, as well as
significant developments in employment legislation. Having worked with them as
astrology clients for many years, I believe that many idealistic and advanced
souls were drawn into incarnation at that moment in time precisely because
there seemed to be so much hope for humanity."
from Donna Cunningham

This doesn't mean that everyone born during that time will feel a calling. But if you have inner planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) tied into the outer-planet configurations you may feel moved to be a part of the momentum that is happening right now.

Also, I recently had a dream that I was taking on to a spaceship but throughout the whole dream I was very lucid and so I also resonated with her advice that we have a choice in "contact" situations.


This is really interesting astraya, how do you determine if you have inner planets tied in with outer planet configurations? A basic chart can tell you that?

Thanks

[Phtha]

If you don't like what she's saying fine, but you're no more in the position to judge her validity as a "messenger" then anyone else here. Especially considering the message she gave wasn't a bad one, so what's the problem? Or is it just your problem and ego?


You're exactly right, in a sense. I'm just giving my opinion like everyone else in this thread.
You just happen to not agree with the one I make, I'm not the one disagreeing. I was answering your questions.
Peace I say,
I'm glad to read everyone elses opinions, even opposites. I have learned much 'o much :roftl:

[historycircus]

I will simply make these observations, with no disrespect intended.

Her eyes shift down and to the left at the beginning of the interview, as well as making statements with her eyes closed. These are classic signs of "grasping," of attempting to attach truth in communication to things that might not be believed as truth by the communicator. With that being said, it was the beginning of an almost two hour interview - it could be just a case of "finding bearings."

As for the content; what we have here is another witness that argues the existence of extraterrestrials, and claims that they have a fixation on her (car pulling up next to her, etc.).

Here is my problem folks.

We now have many contactees and abductees to choose from here. Is anyone else bothered by off-world interference? Who are the "blonds" and "grays" to come down here and interfere with our lives, while hiding behind puppet governments or clandestine encounters? Many of you here claim that you are spiritually enlightened - you are psychic, balanced, or free from negativity. Is this fair? Are we being treated fairly as a species? If we are to join the galactic community, will it be as slaves? As wards? If an ounce of what this woman, and the other interviewees, and countless others are saying is true, who are "they" - in whatever form from wherever or whenever - to play with us so?

If you believe this woman, then the preceeding questions are valid.

[T.C]

Something that I have noticed in this type of information - i.e abductee/experiencer describing alien information imparted to them - is that the aliens appear to be some what naive about the delineation of power and control in our society.

Please correct me if I am wrong, however I do not believe I have heard a description of aliens explaining the reality of a minority of people on earth having power and control over the masses. When Miriam talked about what individuals could do she mentioned seeds for example, planting your own garden. From my perspective, the reason the world as a whole is going to 'hell in a handbasket' is centered upon megolamanical psychopaths who have power and control and people who are pyschologically subdued to allow this to occur.

If - for example - a positive step is for us to grow our own gardens, if I grow a garden and that action represents 1% of society then my actions are insignificant and ultimately irrelevant. What we need is 90% of people to grow their own gardens! Otherwise REAL change will not occur. Therefore the important question is how to get that 90% to want to grow their own gardens! Do you see what I am getting at here?

Convincing (if this is indeed the appropriate step to take) others that they should give up (or at least minimise) their consumerism on the basis of its harm to other beings and the environment - is a very difficult task. In fact some people can be downright angry when you attempt to explain alternatives to them. Cognitive dissonance steps in, and in certain individuals this pyschologically manifests itself in a defensive outburst. The indoctrination is so complete because it occurs from the cradle to the grave, so it is little wonder that people want to 'remain in the matrix'.

As other posters on this thread have pointed out, Miriam's information does not (arguable) add anything substantive to what we already know. I personally found it interesting, but the core of the message I have heard many times before. This is not to denegrate Miriam - or the message - it is simply that I believe that workable solutions to the problems described is what we need to focus on.

[Steve_G]

It didn't resonate with me much, I struggled to watch the whole thing. I kept "switching off" throughout the interview, I really couldn't sustain much interest. I thought she spoke almost like an automaton, and I got the feeling that she was a very traumatized individual- whatever experiences she's had I don't think she's assimilated them very well.

I found her pleading on behalf of herself (don't judge me by the evil people in the world) very hard to take. The whole Judgement deal sounds like a New Age re-branding of Original Sin to me.

She did make some good points here and there but on the whole she was less than convincing, and certainly didn't live up to the excessive hype built around the interview. The point she made about planting gardens was fine as far as it went, but overlooks the fact that if free energy was made available the need for oil would drop much more significantly.

She mentions that her father's bloodline can be traced way way back and would be very interesting to follow, and then later that certain families have had certain genetics implanted in them by these Watchers. Combined with the Master Race undertones menioned by others, is this ringing any Illuminati / Annunaki bells with anyone?

There are far too many red flags in her story for me. I'm not saying she isn't sincere about what she's saying but I do question the source of the information, and I do think that there was a lot more she could have said but chose not to.

Blessings to all.

[144000]

I would appreciate the notion of nomenclature and some referential relation to the material transmitted from other beings or 6th* density social complexes as the Cassiopaeans or the Andromedans which speak about the crucial "service to self" and "service to others" polarisations which the Project Camelot staff frequently use but without explanation or deeper reference, however David Wilcock does his best to solve the issue a bit... ;)
However, as 3rd as well as 4th density distorsions goes.. "We" (still not yet potentiated?) as 3rd density don't know the output since 4th density involvements still remains inside the struggle for their own understanding and learning.
Simply put: if the 4th density groups are still struggling themselves for understanding how can anyone be certain to what their motives are and how they read the situation?
Layers of the onion: Most certainly the involvement of strong 5th density forces (i.e. Orion origins), probably hidden to most 4th density groups, can still maintain a strong and negative service of self polarity, influence behaviour, and outcomes. This not said the positive 5th denity entities might want to stop this, doh?

*faq about density levels (scroll down a little):
http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/lawofone.html

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references on Cassiopaeans social complex outputs:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm

references on Andromedan social complex (or RA) outputs:
http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx

critical voices:
http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2008/02/bill-ryan-and-project-camelot-psy-ops.html

Drunvalo Melchizedek on the Hopi's Blue Star:
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/drunvalo.htm


thanks!

[WalkingTurtle]

Well... we tell our children not to take any candies from strangers, don't we? So, even if her (and from others like George Green or David Wilcock and all the others - not wanting to call them Gurus) stories sound very nice and sweet, why should I take all that for true? What if they are the Illuminati? And anyway, are the Illuminati really the bad guys or are some other bad guys trying to persuade us they would be bad? I feel that something is trying to confuse me these days to get me off the road and to finally not even be able to distinguish the difference between good and bad. I would very like to believe, but I just can't! Not yet.

WT

[richard]

I would encourage people to check out alliesofhumanity.org concerning this topic (although I still haven't made up my mind about that info either).


I like to repeat sherab's words....... I would encourage people to read this free ebook
http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/book1.php

[Xmen442002]

This may be the worst interview that I've seen them conduct.
I could only get through one hour and ten minutes of this and could not continue .
She says absolutely nothing that I would say is helpful. Nothing concrete about what she experienced on the ship. She does not tell us who the aliens are, what star system they are from, who they are aligned with on earth except that she saw one in Hopi. I was hoping to at least hear the word in hopi that meant thank you which would have given this interview some credibility of what she says she has experienced.

Why did the Russians want her to be a psychic spy? What were they doing?

This has the "new age feel" to it. I've experienced enough new age bs to see it.

I could not latch onto one inkling of info that I have not heard in a round about way before except for her abduction experience.

Maybe I should continue to listen to the interview but I don't see the point.

If you're not already awake then it is too late.

Xmen

[AussieG]

Whether Miriam story stacks up or not is not the main point. It is the message that I hear from many of the interviews and it is this.

it is my understanding that human-beings are a spirit having a human experience of choice.
Our purpose is to evolve our spirits by experience.
Humans of all the creatures on this pebble are the only ones that have the power of self determination, I don't see Loins and Tigers planting potatoes or building houses.
This power of self determination is guided by two forces Ego and Conscious (Fear and love). The Ego is like the motor in a car and the conscious is the steering.
. Unfortunately there are forces in our world that have deliberately developed the Ego ( sense of individuality ) to the extreme. (Fortunately for humanity it is not natural and I believe will be challenged very soon.). The only true peace I have found is not in the things I don't have ie big house nice car all Ego driven material things , but In the things I do have life, health, family and a genuine desire to help.
As earlier I mentioned that I believe that our purpose is to evolve our spirit through experience. For when we die it's our conscious / spirit that goes on for it is the only stable thing about us, it never lies ,or gets drunk, never gets emotional it is here just gaining experience. God can create life, but can't create experience.There is no "Good" and no"Bad", just experience ( what a relief ) but if I were to remove either Ego or Conscious there would be no evolution. for one on its own is like black without white, the ying without the yang. The discipline for me is to do what my Conscious says despite what my Ego wants. If my Ego is in service to my Conscious ( which is the voice of my spirit )then I have a powerful force that can steer me on a wonderful journey.

This is the message I hear from Miriam we need the change the collective attitude from "What's in it for me" to " How can I help" If every one dedicated five hours a week to charity the would would be a better place.:wub2:

[Myplanet2]

I got the sense while watching Miriam, that she was trying to "put on a show". But not in a way that implies dishonesty. Rather more that this was very important to her, and that she wanted to have it come off well.

Kind of like she was trying to remain aware of her mission, rather than just speaking directly from her heart.

When she said she really didn't want to be there, talking to Bill and Kerry, I saw that this was true, but because it was so important to get her message out and not mess it up.

She was very deliberate in her speech and weighed her words, perhaps to the point of slight distraction.

I think she assumed a "speaking identity" for this interview.

She might do the interview differently now, after watching this one objectively.

None of which has any bearing on her message, which I found very focusing and important.

I suspect we are going to see earths indigenous peoples play a progressively more important role in the near future. They seem to have been biding their time, and are going to be adding a big boost in the efforts to awaken people to the actually hidden beneath the apparency.

I"m getting excited by all this. Avenues of action are starting to open up now, where before I saw mostly opportunities to watch in horror and hide, as intended by the PTB.

[mntruthseeker]

I was unable to dl the video myself. One of my friends sent it to me and I was most surprised to find that a video that long was put on You Tube. most only last 10to 13 mins

I felt a connection to her and listened to the tape taking in all she has said. I noticed her eyes also but the impression I got, was she was stuggling to hold back her tears. She doesnt find it easy to talk in front of people and deffinately not when she can't control her tears. I know as I am the same way. I find it hard to when people are looking at me. I am working on that. With Miriam, she had so much to say, and she got defensive with, I'm not crazy. Don't we all get that from people? Also Miriam choose her words so carefully. Cautious.....

I took her message to heart and yesterday my husband took me to a nutrient shop and it happened to be closed. We drove past a half price book store and I asked him to stop. I really wasnt looking for a particular book. I don't take the time to read anymore except online. I asked to stop for him. He is the big reader. He decided to just give me cash and wait out in the car

I walked to the back and felt the store had a strange odor so I turned to leave. A sign caught my eye and I felt a tight urge to stop and look at the books right there. The sign said African American / Native American. I was going to look at books on herbs. This book jumped out at me called The Hopi's Survival tips. I just stared at it and wanted to buy both copies but didnt want the hazzle from my husband. I have come to enjoy comparing ancient herbs and cures

I read some of the book last night and finds it goes on the same path as Miriam's speach. I then went online and read more on the Hopi's. The words that Miriam spoke do need to be shared with all.`


Miriam did a fine job and I am very happy I was able to hear her speach. Thanks for sharing Miriam and just so you know, I shared your pain and tears. The point of your message was well hearing

There is nothing wrong with crying and if more people had the love and peaceful ways of the Hopi's as you illustrated and I read about we have something indeed to look forward to.

God bless you Miriam and I hope that soon the load you have been carrying so long is weakened.

Thank you again

[King Lear]

I don't understand your complaining.

Go to google.video, there you can watch the whole video without any break in download and also in whole! (not several parts as it is on youtube)

[Ampgod]

I relate to her very much and trust her information a great deal.
I feel her intention and believe she is telling the truth.:thumb_yello:



Live love,
Ampgod

[Wolf]

Miriam was on Coast some time ago and I was appalled at the treatment that she received. Ian practically made fun of her and ridiculed her for referring people to her book for certain information. Doesn't everyone on that show refer people to their book? I was embarassed to even be a listener.

[Carol]

Something that I have noticed in this type of information - i.e abductee/experiencer describing alien information imparted to them - is that the aliens appear to be some what naive about the delineation of power and control in our society.

Please correct me if I am wrong, however I do not believe I have heard a description of aliens explaining the reality of a minority of people on earth having power and control over the masses. When Miriam talked about what individuals could do she mentioned seeds for example, planting your own garden. From my perspective, the reason the world as a whole is going to 'hell in a handbasket' is centered upon megolamanical psychopaths who have power and control and people who are pyschologically subdued to allow this to occur.

If - for example - a positive step is for us to grow our own gardens, if I grow a garden and that action represents 1% of society then my actions are insignificant and ultimately irrelevant. What we need is 90% of people to grow their own gardens! Otherwise REAL change will not occur. Therefore the important question is how to get that 90% to want to grow their own gardens! Do you see what I am getting at here?

Convincing (if this is indeed the appropriate step to take) others that they should give up (or at least minimise) their consumerism on the basis of its harm to other beings and the environment - is a very difficult task. In fact some people can be downright angry when you attempt to explain alternatives to them. Cognitive dissonance steps in, and in certain individuals this pyschologically manifests itself in a defensive outburst. The indoctrination is so complete because it occurs from the cradle to the grave, so it is little wonder that people want to 'remain in the matrix'.

As other posters on this thread have pointed out, Miriam's information does not (arguable) add anything substantive to what we already know. I personally found it interesting, but the core of the message I have heard many times before. This is not to denegrate Miriam - or the message - it is simply that I believe that workable solutions to the problems described is what we need to focus on.

I really like what you've written here T.C.

With respect with the gardens it starts with just one person just as the journey begins with one step. I cannot begin to tell you the interest that has popped up here on this and classes being offered to the public. The public can't get enough information on gardening and want these classes offered in many other locations. The govenor here recently signed a bill giving loans for aquaponics. Indeed, learning to grow ones own food is a step to independence from Monsanto and those who would corrupt the food that we eat.

[goody8504]

Miriam is Canadian...most of the people interviewed on PC were European or American right? OK, I know this sounds maybe a little strange but when I hear people making comments about Miriam being "off", "strange vibe" etc. I can't help but think it has something to do with her nationality. I have NEVER met a Canadian who seemed... ummm, well how can I put this-they are a very distinctive people in a very subtle way that I can't define...if you Canucks out there can either agree or disagree we might get to the bottom of this.

I think of the films out of Canada, the musicians, etc...you guys are different than people in the states-and I have a hard time putting my finger on it but I know it's true, so when I watched the vid of Miriam, I kept reminding myself of that and not letting her delivery of the message get to me. She's Canadian. That's all.

God Bless Canada!

i understand where you're coming from, and you make a good point. but to say 'she's canadian, that's all. case closed' is a bit premature

[Shakesbeer]

You're exactly right, in a sense. I'm just giving my opinion like everyone else in this thread.
You just happen to not agree with the one I make, I'm not the one disagreeing. I was answering your questions.
Peace I say,
I'm glad to read everyone elses opinions, even opposites. I have learned much 'o much :roftl:

Cool, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm riding you for stating your opinion. I more want to make the point that I see cultural or urban-myth-like expectations dictating what people perceive as "truth" (or the lack there of) instead of remaining opened minded. Especially in light of the fact she didn't give a bad message, or conflict with what many people who are into ET's would agree with.
_________

Now just sayin'...

I'm pretty sure most of the assessments on her eyes showing lack of control is wrong, as well as the conventional hemispheric syncing of the eye movements only accounts for a very slight portion of what she was communicating. The simple fact so many noticed her eyes moving so much in a "weird" way tells you she was giving off more information then most could first perceive. Make no mistake, she was "weighing" many things in her conscious mind during all of this, but that doesn't mean she's lying or has any sinister motives. She's ****** off about something...it sounds like she knows something pretty deplorable she can't share that's because she just can't prove it.

And just for the record and for everyone here:

The term "NEW AGE" is a misnomer

The knowledge you tend to hear is ancient just like the Bible, Koran, science (new & old), whatever... so when many of us see someone say something like; "I'm tired of all this 'new age' bs.."
You're essentially telling everyone "I'm frustrated and impatient with the situation, so I'm going to lash out and call you something different then me so I can blame you!"
:thumb_yello:

[Triggerpull29]

I also felt like she was putting on a show. I don't trust actors and she was trying pretty hard to act "correctly". She didn't really have anything new or different to say. Just didn't interest me.

[Theresa]

Watched her interview until 3 am last night! that was a little crazy...however, I want to share that she is RIGHT ON with everything that I too have been hearing for awhile now, and recently being aware of a lot more ET communication, psychically, in myself.

I too have been guided to the four corners area, the indigenous people there and the ET's, for a couple of years now-WAY before I even heard of Miriam. The "galactic federation" has been showing me some stuff that is coming, and I totally appreciate why she didn't want to share everything she's seen. I too was shown the underground bases, and a *little* of what they are doing down there. I have been shown whats coming with potential pole shift, world chaos, etc, and much more.

In my experience, she is RIGHT ON. Further, some have commented on her body language. I think she really feels the gravity of her responsibility with her message and that's enough to make anyone a wee bit nervous.

Secondly, her eye movements-someone commented on that. What' I've learned from EMDR information, is that when someone looks to the left (their left) they are "remembering" what they already have have experienced and processed. WHen they look to the right, they are "creating" what they are saying, from their own imagination. Or "interpreting".

So, the premise is, if you ask someone a question and they look to the left, they are remembering, and therefore answering "honestly" according to the facts as they understand them. (Ie, where were you yesterday at 3 p,m? look to the left, and say, 'at the grocery store.' That would be considered an honest answer. Ask the same question and they look to the right, the premise is that they are "creating" their answer, so it is not based on factual recollection as THEY understood it, it is being created, or INTERPRETED in that moment, therefore, potentially is NOT an honest answer.)

She looked to the left virtually the entire interview when describing and answering questions, but ONCE DID look to the right and it was in response to what the tall blondes MESSAGE is to us. That was NOT dishonesty, that was INTERPRETATION! See the difference?

Look, if YOU had been visited, taken on a craft, and had all the experiences that she has had, you TOO might be acting slightly odd in an interview. Maybe not, but my experience is very aligned with what she has said.

Are we ALL crazy? I have no clue, but all we can do is follow our heart. THAT is the ONLY source of truth for each person. If we can't even trust THAT, then NONE of this (existence) makes any sense. Thinking like that WILL make you crazy!

~WE ARE THE ALL THAT IS ALL~WE ARE LOVE~

[lilac]

I am not a contactee, nor am I particularly psychic, but I have been hiding my light under a bushel basket all my life, choosing my words and biting my tongue. I've wondered what I'm doing here and why I am alone in my knowing. I am deeply grateful for this forum and for DAvid Wilcock who has also explained so much. I am Canadian and as I watched Miriam, I was thinking that I know her. Perhaps I have seen her somewhere, but I definitely know that she is sincere, that her message is absolutely true and that she is living up to a huge responsibility. Miriam's words thrilled me, because I know now that I have made my life choices for a good reason. I cried through pretty much all of the second half. Afterward, I fell into a deep sleep (in the afternoon) and today my meditation was brilliant. Something is different. I am not alone.

[Carol]

Miriam was on Coast some time ago and I was appalled at the treatment that she received. Ian practically made fun of her and ridiculed her for referring people to her book for certain information. Doesn't everyone on that show refer people to their book? I was embarassed to even be a listener.

Ian can sometimes be a real twit when face-to-face with someone who opposes his religious world-view as a Deacon.

[MartyMcFailure]

ben fulford was on rense 24 september and said he thinks the bit about reptilians vs nnordics.. good aliens vs bad is a distraction and disinfo.. its just a comment he makes not the subject

[rainman]

Well, I somehow managed to stand tall till the end of the interview, but it was very hard to do that waiting all the time for some "hot" info.
IMO she is a person with heavy burdens from the past, but are that burdens extraterrestrial........
Yes, she is putting on some show, she is guessing, floating and trying to keep the track of the story, but it becomes so painful every time when "unexpected" question comes... things get complicated and then she smiles and tries to sell some foggy "I can't exactly tell" story.
But hey, someone like it, others don't... nothing new!
My biggest concerns are really about the announcement of the interview on the (excellent) projectcamelot.org site. I honestly can't see why this is "one of the the most powerful and important interviews we have done" as the authors said??!!
Where is that WOW part of the story?
One more abductee (or "abductee") is telling some story, but this time without any spectacular thing to show us...
Blondes, grays, blues, greens... all of us have some favorite colors and shapes, but the story must contain something to hold the water.
She may be ok and on the "light side", but that isn't so much "powerful and important" if you ask me.

[GoingToFast]

I don´t get what all the hullabaloo is about concerning this Miriam Delicado, what she is saying is not something new, her story has been told many times before by other contacties/abducties. My feeling when I see her is that she is putting on a show, I am sorry to say, she is just plugging here book. KAASCHIIING.

[Morgan]

I am particularly enjoying clarkkent's post and posts from others who are asking some very good questions or pointing out issues I think are important or are otherwise unaddressed.

edit: I wanted to add that I also struggled in watching this interview, I was not interested in her experiences on the craft, etc. I had been lead to believe by the hype that this interview would contain crucial info for the ground crew, but upon viewing did not find a whole lot of it, unless you count vague or intangible clues to be crucial info. Also nothing new IMO, but this has been said and been countered but I still think it's a valid comment. Towards the end, or actually, I should say just before the hour mark, I started skipping a few minutes at a time hoping I'd rejoin at a more interesting part. Not so much.

I've enjoyed reading this thread - it's been very interesting to read everyone's perspectives on it. It occurs to me that we are all unique in our experiences, our intuitions, our beliefs, which hopefully provides us with some uncertainty to the direction of the future./end edit

It's just me and my feelings, but I have doom exhaustion, and I am fed up with it and fed up with 'humanity' getting the blame for everything that's gone wrong on this planet. I certainly believe we all have a degree of responsibility, but I am just so tired of hearing how we screwed it up royally. Did we? How long have our Controllers been controlling us? How long have they been suppressing alternative technologies? How long have they been getting us to get degrees that impart next to no practical/holistic information? How long have they been herding us into dead end jobs, into industries that destroy and pollute, etc? I do not advocate a victim mentality, but we aren't totally empowered either. I certainly feel like my potential has been limited - but I don't walk around everyday hating 'the elite' for it either - so please don't misunderstand my comments, I'm trying to point some things out that I don't see being pointed out a lot. (A defense for humans, I guess?)

YES - we all have personal choices we can make - we can stop consuming so much useless junk like HD tv's or SUV's, we can reduce reuse and recycle - but a lot of conscious people are also on limited incomes and can't afford to buy organic or fair trade products. Simple as that.

When industry, corporations, and governments refuse to invest in sustainable development, in clean technology, in holistic earth views, in natural health, in all of these things that would reduce our impact on the planet and restore some freedom/liberty/happiness to the human race, how responsible are you and I, as individuals? I have voted since I was legal age, always for the environment, always for people. Now that I am awake, I make the best decisions I can in my purchases and lifestyle choices. Which brings me to another issue - if people are ignorant - because they have never had an opportunity to get clued in (for various reasons) - are they just as responsible as someone who 'knows better'?

So when I hear people going around doling out blame equally across all humans - that gets me a little peeved, yes. I am not shirking responsibility - I am doing my part, I am doing what my means allow me to, and I will spread my awareness to people with ears to hear. But to dump all this environmental destruction, all the chemicals in rivers and lakes, the genetic modification of food, the diseases engineered to kill us, etc. etc. on people like me sounds like you're trying to induce guilt and regret. Forget it, once set out on this path you've lost me.

Maybe if we'd all dump the guilt and start holding our Controllers accountable, if we'd charge people for corporate crimes, if governments put teeth in their environmental protection laws, if corporations were not given status as 'persons' and their CEO's/managers/whatever were held personally responsible to the strongest degree of the law - the law that will be provided with teeth - maybe we'd get somewhere.

Resources (oil, minerals, water, food) are becoming depleted and scarce. The world's population is growing at the rate of an additional city per day. All this would be worrying enough if the world's leaders were actually trying to handle these problems, but they are not: they are obsessed with perverted ideas of destiny and power and regard you and me as pawns on a giant chessboard to be sacrificed at will.

This is what also gets me. Suppose we make it through the turmoil, suppose 'they' don't kill 95% of us or whatever, suppose humans declare a truce and there's no more exploitation and wars, what kind of planet do we have? We've polluted our water to such an extent, human health and genetics are going down the crapper thanks to all this chemical soup we breathe eat and drink, animals are having deformities and health challenges, soils are depleted, etc. etc. etc. on and on - what's the point? This is why it's entertaining when governments make pollution reduction targets of 20% for 12 years from now. Ha! So many around me are plagued by smog days, affected by asthma - when you can't even breathe NOW, have we got 12 more years?? Will anyone be able to breathe then??

[astraya]

i am not a contactee, nor am i particularly psychic, but i have been hiding my light under a bushel basket all my life, choosing my words and biting my tongue. I've wondered what i'm doing here and why i am alone in my knowing. I am deeply grateful for this forum and for david wilcock who has also explained so much. I am canadian and as i watched miriam, i was thinking that i know her. Perhaps i have seen her somewhere, but i definitely know that she is sincere, that her message is absolutely true and that she is living up to a huge responsibility. Miriam's words thrilled me, because i know now that i have made my life choices for a good reason. I cried through pretty much all of the second half. Afterward, i fell into a deep sleep (in the afternoon) and today my meditation was brilliant. Something is different. I am not alone.

well put!

[feeler]

MartyMcFailure wrote: "Ben fulford was on rense 24 september and said he thinks the bit about reptilians vs nnordics.. good aliens vs bad is a distraction and disinfo.."

Are these Vogue model-like beings (six-four, beautiful beautiful blue eyes, pure white skin, blond hair, hard body, etc.) playing god? Did they actually close the chapters of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd worlds? How do I get the passing grade? What if I were fat, short, and one of the brown people?


The overtone is one of white supremacist in the show.

[clarkkent]

shouldnt we be a little skeptical? (a little humour, no offense)

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[crowmirror]

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[googleboy]

Ok,I m little bit conCERN here :))

I simply can not believe that our desire for peace and love practice has been taken advantage of once again ...
basically most of my concerns are attached for Camelots announcement that this
interview is one of the most important so far. I did have some correspondence with Miriam few months ago and I m VERY WELL AWARE that she is either into money or she is seriously mentally ill. (this is MY conclusion and can be explained on request..if someone thinks that is word mentally ill to heavy)

I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,..

C'MON people wake up !!
Do you really think that Russian psy ops approach you and after yours NO they left you in peace ??

and quote; "... my father came from Yugoslavia.....I did not research his familly tree but if someone could,.. he WILL FIND many interesting things..."
what kind of prop is this??
either you DID research or you DID NOT,how come that you DID NOT but still have an : he WILL FIND many interesting things..."

I dont have good forum signature but I can say this:

in the troubled times I dont have to eat &^%* to survive.

blessUall

[feeler]

googleboy wrote:

"Do you really think that Russian psy ops approach you and after yours NO they left you in peace ??"

"either you DID research or you DID NOT,how come that you DID NOT but still have an : he WILL FIND many interesting things..."

Both are very good points. Wih the resource Camelot have, someone needs to do some background check on her father and conduct some cross reference to see if her story is consistent.

The earth is our home. Do we have the right to visit the underground -in peace- to see what is going on? Will we find our missing children there? Will we find experimentations or their 'food source' there? In peace, don't we have the right to visit that corner of the world? What agenda does she have in claiming the underground is a restricted zone?

[stefaan]

Hi folks!
I'm a bit disappointed by this interview.
...
Anyway she's always looking to her left side. As she looks right handed (maybe i'm wrong but her body gesture looks like she is) it means she's refering to the left part of her brain.
This part is actually involved in building objects and situations which are not existing or have not happened.:winksmiley02:
...


Jumping a little fast to conclusions?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/Eye_accessing_cues.jpg/250px-Eye_accessing_cues.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming)
NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) indeed looks at the eyes in the way you discribe here.
But it is a controversial technique, not only the eye thing, but the whole NLP thing. It's almost obsolete. And even NLP believers don't use just eye-movements alone on itself anymore. It always has to be accompanied with confirming other parameters.

After reading your remark I've looked at the video for a second time, keeping an eye on her eyes :shocked: There are some strange looks now and then I've seen the first time too. Looks that might raise some doubt. But then again, you should try it once, sitting two hours in front of a camera, keeping all strange looks to yourself. I wish you good luck.
And what her eyes were concerned, for me it's all ok. You may be alert, but don't have to look for things that aren't there. If she's a con-artist, then she's the best there is.

[stefaan]

...
I simply can not believe that our desire for peace and love practice has been taken advantage of once again ...
...
I did have some correspondence with Miriam few months ago and I m VERY WELL AWARE that she is either into money or she is seriously mentally ill. (this is MY conclusion and can be explained on request..if someone thinks that is word mentally ill to heavy)

...
I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,..
...

... quote; "... my father came from Yugoslavia.....I did not research his familly tree but if someone could,.. he WILL FIND many interesting things..."
...


"seriously mentally ill" Ok, explain, please

Are you sure of your quote? I don't think she used the words "he WILL FIND".

"I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,.. "
This is a little contradictio in terminus alike.
If you cannot believe Kerry and Bill cannot see through her... then do you imply Kerry & Bill are in on it too? So they also are into it for the money? And play along with Miriam?
Well, well.

[googleboy]

googleboy wrote:

"Do you really think that Russian psy ops approach you and after yours NO they left you in peace ??"

"either you DID research or you DID NOT,how come that you DID NOT but still have an : he WILL FIND many interesting things..."

Both are very good points. Wih the resource Camelot have, someone needs to do some background check on her father and conduct some cross reference to see if her story is consistent.

The earth is our home. Do we have the right to visit the underground -in peace- to see what is going on? Will we find our missing children there? Will we find experimentations or their 'food source' there? In peace, don't we have the right to visit that corner of the world? What agenda does she have in claiming the underground is a restricted zone?

the Camelot doesnt SELL anything so I dont think that they have some
significant resources, but the quick jump to the Belgrade library can resolve Miriams issue. note that Yugoslavia dont exist almost 10 years now, so most of the people really originated from that part of Europe uses name of the country BORN after succession (Bosnia,Serbia,Croatia...), not a Yugoslavia by word...



....and..... bare in mind that THIS world is NOT only OURS.


regards,
GB

**

[googleboy]

"seriously mentally ill" Ok, explain, please

Are you sure of your quote? I don't think she used the words "he WILL FIND".

"I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,.. "
This is a little contradictio in terminus alike.
If you cannot believe Kerry and Bill cannot see through her... then do you imply Kerry & Bill are in on it too? So they also are into it for the money? And play along with Miriam?
Well, well.

some of my words CAN be taken wrong because English is not my native...

bill and carry are NOT INTO MONEY - period.

what I wanna to say is basically that,.. sometimes in a rush when you see house burnin instead of bucket of water you can use bucket of petrol .. ok?


and YES I m absolutely sure that SHE said that if someone wants to examine her fathers past and family tree - that someone - will find very very interesting things....

for the " mentally ill or into money" thing I might paste some e mails from me to her or from her to me but I must reconsider some parts of it before...

but .. there is one for YOU :)) go to her web site and tell me ..which button only GLOWS ,... and afterwards go to camelots site .. do you see any button glowing there? ... catch my grip?


be well

GB

**

[china2012]

#2

It's not a dream of us to get here,
To ornament a losing life in lines;
that cannot come nearer to an idyllic heaven,
To live our invisible poetry eon;
For thy Hopi Blue Star have already forbidden

In dream I sat at a melody with its stony shore
Against rampage wind that breezes faces aboard
Is a moment WE all look up in vain at awe
There will be filling the hollow of hands
Are its scourge blood and abandoning sand

If so
Let time and space scattered falling fast and thin
To the most cordial heart that shut off all destruction
At this exceptional Earth's deepest resort
A sanctuary lay high only in thought
Yes, our tear come with lament, but fear will never happen
That is a determination written even before the Hopi legend

[rainman]

One more note regarding her "bloodline":
Miriam Delicado must be her pseudonim, because MIRIAM or DELICADO absulutely doesn't sound like they are anywhere near (ex) Yugoslavia (Father) or Germany (Mother). Maybe something like Mirjana Delic could do the trick, but I am asking HER to explain why she is so "honestly concerned about humanity" but still not using her "real" name (or maybe she changed her name because of the Russian Psy Ops :original:).
Bill or Kerry too should explain WHERE is that "important" stuff that many of us can't see. Maybe they know something off the camera, but we simply refuse to be thrilled by overblown announcements. No offense here, I'm just trying to find the real nature of this "legendary" interview!
I personally don't really care about this whole "super-event", but, as I previously said, I really don't know WHY is she marked almost as queen of all "contactees" or "futuretellers" or whatever?!

[feeler]

dragonfly wrote: "What hit me hard about this recording was not her eyes, but the smile at the end. Just a corner of her mouth went up on the left side and I got a weird feel from her then."

That smile is similar to Cheney's signature smile. I think Camelot has been infiltrated, similar to the 9/11 truth movement.

BTW, she had zero question for the older, not even like, what happened to our mission children, or where do I find that little thing that I buried/misplaced.

[feeler]

rainman wrote: 'but I am asking HER to explain why she is so "honestly concerned about humanity" but still not using her "real" name (or maybe she changed her name because of the Russian Psy Ops ).'

Good points. And the American Psy Ops showed no interest in her?

Don't they want to make sure the underground bases are totally off-limits?

As if 2012 isn't soon enough, now we have 2010 to think about.

[rainman]

feeler said: "I think Camelot has been infiltrated, similar to the 9/11 truth movement."

@feeler
U got some nice thinking there, this really COULD be the distraction point where many people should begin to FOLLOW Miriam on her journey to SOMEWHERE in search for SOMETHING that SHOULD tell us WHAT will happen in 2010 :winksmiley02:
The problem is in the closeness of that 2010 and we will "all see" what will happen anyway!

[Accipiter_Phi]

After having just sifted through ten pages of this thread, I just want to chime in my thoughts on Miriam.

First off, thank you Bill, Kerry and Miriam: this path you all have chosen is a hard one... yet very valuable.

To paraphrase Bill Ryan: [these testimonies are like individual trees in a grove... take in the story of each individual tree & then step back: and see the overall shape of the forest from the individual trees] (sorry Bill, your actual quote was much more elegant).

I believe Miriam to be sincere... I believe she speaks from her heart... but I recieved some red flags in the interview.

One aspect of her story stuck out for me: the description of the Nordic's "helper greys"; round black eyes, featureless, and robotic like.

This sure sounds exactly like the PLFs (Programmable Life Forms) that have been seen in various stages of production by multiple witnesses in various D.U.M.B. facilities. These little fellas seem to usually be invoved in abductee scenarios (including the now rare, first video "Incident at Lake County"... not the widely disseminated hoaxed second video).

So, what does this mean?
Are the Nordics in collusion with the PTB? Are they benevolent or malevolent; Nothing in this reality ever seems to be black and white.

To use a Star Wars analogy: Are the PLFs used for good like Yota's clone army... to be conversly be used by the Sith Lord to turn on the Jedi (or vice versa).

I believe the truth of the Nordic intentions may be much more nuanced. If benevolent, a "creator" or "seed" race would first go to the world's governments in order to help the populace. But what if those govs used their gained knowledge to further concentrate the power of the elite?

Wouldn't the benevolent aliens then seek out individual civilians to get their message out?

Then there is the valid time travel issue that ClarkKent broached at the top of this thread. Hitler believed the master race were the descendants of Atanteans and, which in turn came from the Pleaides. We know time travel exists... Even if we discount multiple whistleblower testimony, we have the widely publicised public domain sources, like the infalliable atomic clock experiments of yesterday. These clocks measure time by a constant rate of decay of radioactive isotopes into their daughter element; they cannot be wrong... the decay is the most constant thing in existence. The clocks were synched. Then one clock was sent into orbit around earth and one stayed earth bound. When they were compared after some time, there was a several second descrepancy between the two.

Given the existence of time travel, Nordics could have many motives... not to mention, there are likely many factions within ET Nordics. Just like all humans are not "good" or "bad."

On to Miriam's empasis on "seeds." I think Miriam is right on the money here, whether one takes the importance of "seeds" literally or esoterically.

In a literal sense, survival in the future will be hinged on our ability to live in a self sufficient and sustainable manner. We need to grow our own food from organic, NON Genetically Modified seeds. This is a given.

Yet, even esoterically: Are the awakened not "seeds" themselves? An acorn contains within its DNA all the genetic memory of a mighty oak... of all Oaks past and all oaks future. We, as aware beings, would be the seeds of a new paradigm of a new world... cataclysm or not.

Bottom line... we should keep all these testimonies in a file in our head. To deny Miriam's message because it seems "fear based" would be like the philosophical fallacy of "Denying the Antecedant:"

"Miriam is a contactee from benevolent aliens, therefore her message should be positive. Her message is not positive (it is gloomy), so therefore Miriam is not a contactee from benevolent aliens."

Anywho... thats my 2 shillings.
Thank you all for the spirited forum filled with differing opinions while maintaining civility.

"If the wall seems like a door, put new hinges on it so you can use it" -Ed fROMOHIO

[feeler]

Another convenient truth that we've been exposed to:

Thus far we have been told, the 'bad' aliens (reptilians) shape-shift, but the 'good' ones don't. They do have genuine blonde hair, genuine blue eyes, genuine Mr/Ms Olympia bodies, and genuine pure white skin.

[feeler]

Accipiter_Phi wrote: "On to Miriam's empasis on "seeds." I think Miriam is right on the money here, whether one takes the importance of "seeds" literally or esoterically."

Very intelligent writing Accipiter_Phi. Just don't buy seeds directly/indirectly from Monsanto. If the psychos decided to nuke Iran and trigger the next world war, I don't expect to see my seeds would do very well in the contaminated/radioactive soil. Without my mother earth, you can have my seeds.

[rainman]

The point of this testimonies isn't in pure believing in them. We should learn or hear something new and important, but not the same story told for 1000 times.
Would you believe me if I say: "I'm going to work tomorrow". Of course you will, but does that make me "the chosen one"?
NO!
I'm asking all of you again:
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS INTERVIEW?

10 pages are written here in pure search of that point...
IMO that point SHOULD NOT BE just the old sentence "I want to believe"!

[freecat]

I found the interview very interesting and in fact had a very profound experience the next day which I feel was due to a new awareness from hearing this information. I do have to say however, that I am a little wary of the whole Nordic Blonde situation and I wonder about the connection with Hitler and his obsession with a pure blonde aryan race (coming from a short dark haired man? who gave him this idea?)....did anyone else find Miriam's expression at the end of the video (the freeze frame) a little odd....cunning, knowing, almost "gotcha"?

[Katalyst]

very dissappointing, no new information. cannot deal with people who patent the truth. it becomes too religious for me, and thats what im blaming for much of the ******** going on to begin with. no need for a new prophet or a new religious dogma. i dont want to believe. i want to know.

[PodWORLD]

I havent watched the interview and I'm not going to because it's not something that I'm interested in at the moment.

Having said that just gossiping about the woman seems counter productive to me.

Any chance that you had to ask her yourself on this forum was obliterated by an onslaught of nonsense about eyes, the way she sat, her being Canadian and the rest. Is anyone more informed? Were your questions answered?

Does it occur to anyone that this isn't exactly going to encourage others to do on camera interviews with Bill and Kerry.

Debate points by all means but this forum isn't a water cooler.

Cheers, Chris

[feeler]

PodWORLD wrote: "Having said that just gossiping about the woman seems counter productive to me."

If you have time, please watch the interview first, in which she presented zero evidence. This forum provides an opportunity for the Camelot members to raise red flags, discuss openly, and have a better feel for her credibility (or lack of) based on the context and subtext of her message (which includes the verbal part as well as her body language). Not all of the Camelot members are telepathic; the non-verbal message (the body language) from her is important to us too, for us to decipher.

[beejay71]

HI,This is my first post! This was the worst camelot interview to date. I cannot for the life of me undrestand why this was touted as "powerfull" & "maybe the most important interview to date". I felt very unnsettled at the almost gushy respones in the previous posts. This women is not by any means a credible person. There is nothing right about the inetrview, i could tear it to shreads but there is no point. The bottom line is, i trust my intuition when meeting people in my environment or through the media and this went down like a wet squid! The ufo/abductee movement (very obviously infiltrated by the powers who seek to control & mislead) is awash with similiar so called abductees who offer nothing new but at a price! I think that it is vitaly important that we do not allow ourselves to be redirected from the true purpose of our path! i 'm sure there are other objectice & grounded people on this site who know a red herring when one gets slapped in your face! I trust that for the future of our species, the people of this earth wake up invest time energy & faith in their own inner truth, for from where else can one start to comprehend the truth of the universe!

[feeler]

beejay71 wrote: "There is nothing right about the inetrview, i could tear it to shreads but there is no point. The bottom line is, i trust my intuition when meeting people in my environment or through the media and this went down like a wet squid!"

I too believe the ufo/abductee movement has been infiltrated. If you can describe what is not right about the interview, I would appreciate and read/consider very carefully what you contribute. Thank you.

[Stephen]

I don't understand your complaining.

Go to google.video, there you can watch the whole video without any break in download and also in whole! (not several parts as it is on youtube)

That is exactly what I had to do. I tried downloading the Windows Media File 3 times with no success.

I watch this once...late last night or was it early this morning? hehe!

I guess I need to watch it again because I was expecting more 'meat' to it then what *I* viewed and heard.

[Alysse]

I found every word very measured and almost scripted. Didn't get any good or genuine feelings from this interview. How can we know the workings or manifestations of a person's MIND. We all know that the power of suggestion really can play a major part in establishing what we think we know or events that we think we have experienced

[Katalyst]

i think this one will scare good people from other interviews that are more genuine. i liked the skorzeny stuff as I could confirm some of the details. this one is just too spiritual, and the last thing we need in these times is switching on the autopilot.

[feeler]

i think this one will scare good people from other interviews that are more genuine. i liked the skorzeny stuff as I could confirm some of the details. this one is just too spiritual, and the last thing we need in these times is switching on the autopilot.

The Hopi were the selected few. The Jews in Israel were the selected few. Those in the FEMA camps will be the selected few. Now the tall blondes are the 'deciders?' Not Bush? What happened to the Galactic Federation composed of all galactic races? Don't they make any decisions on us?

[Ara]

Can anyone enlighten me as to what Miriam said about 2010? I've watched the interview but can't recall what 2010 was referencing.

I don't want to re-download the whole interview just to hear that part so if anyone can help- thanks a heap.:original::thumb_yello:

[Sideshow Shaman]

Miriam is honest, I liked her half smile.

Her main point, as I hear, is that it is now time for all strangely gifted humans to "go public". She is giving an example. It could be a first contact, of a sort.

Security Through Obscurity is no longer required, should be discarded. Go public with what you know & who you are. Avalon might be a part of this.

[feeler]

Miriam is honest, I liked her half smile.




I like Dick Cheney's half smile better.


Do you believe her driver friend was knocked out in the middle of the road and the vehicle didn't flip over or hit a telephone pole on the side of the road or something?

[OceanWinds]

I will be honest... I did not harmonize with her. I found her energy intrusive and draining. It took my 8 or 9 goes to get to where I am right now in the video, and I am still not done. Please do not take this personally... my intent isnt to hurt anyones feelings,.

Like many others I found her story telling to be exhausting to watch, she constantly refers to her self and her emotions... and the way she does it breaks the flow of the story. This and the manner she tells the story I find draining. I feel like she is telling stuff she made up in her head, after reading some stories.

Maybe she is just not used to being interviewed, or telling her experiences in front of a camera. Maybe her book is much easier to read... but I find that a persons body language explains the story being said. And her body language and story telling seems like a little kids when they are making up a story... and telling it as they go.

Thanks for the video though!

P.S. Watch her body language, and watch where her eyes go when she is thinking. They keep on looking down.... which makes me very skeptical

[Racsouran]

I didn´t saw the interview but i took a look at the woman for a little in the video while she was explaining her thing..... and overall: bad vibes. Seems agressive enough to send harsh vibes. Im not the only one who feels she is vampirical in some energetic sense.

Personally, i can´t stand to view the video even a few minutes, for me that woman looking that way directly at the camera, then, me, is quite offensive, lol seems like she has some psychopathic thing mental illness or something really weird, because it´s too much intrusive.


if those "special people" are asked to go public, maybe is because tptb want them more identified?.

I sense there is not any real need to go public.

If that woman represents the most important testimony of Camelot, camelot is something to trust even less than the little i have trusted it bfore.

[Carol]

One of the things I've observed about the posts on this thead is how varied the responses are from everyone. It's almost like some people are on the bus (those who can accept what Miriam has to share as real and authentic) and others who don't even see the bus coming (who are caught up in their own feelings or how they perceive Miriam holding her head). There is also a glossing over of other members expertise (Miriams eyes looking doward) which clearly demonstrates these particular members lack of knowledge about basic info that any trained mental health professional would notice.

Why is this?

For example, if we were to step back and look at the political scene, there were folks before GWB was every elected who were on the bus (who were aware of GWB's past failed business dealings, history of alcolism and cocaine abuse. And were also aware of his subsequent brain damage from his long history of substance abuse that impaired his judgment). The other half of the nation rallied to his support only to discover 8 years latter that they got run over because they didn't see the bus coming.

Why didn't they see the bus coming? What is that all about?

One possibility is that they were wedded to what they "wanted" to "believe" rather then to what was reality. Those who demonstrated due diligence prior to the election would take the time to research the candidates (which can easily be done on the net). GWB had a history of taking businesses and bankrupting them. He is just repeating what he did in the past. Yet many, who are still in denial just don't understand behavorial patterns and what is happening as a result.

This is not meant as disrespect toward anyone. It is just an observation about how some folks need time to assimilate information and develop discernment skills as compared to other folks who have already gone through that process and are sitting "on the bus."