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Plain and simple: Humans are about as gullible as you can imagine. Very few people have a logical thinking discerning mind. You know why? Because the majority of people are lazy and couldn't care less about anything that's not happening in their own little bubble. All people care about is feeling warm and fuzzy, and will WILLINGLY self delude themselves on a daily basis for the "fix".
So when something comes along that requires thought, "developed" intuition, rational thinking, educated decisions or discernment, most people immediately jump to "paranormal". Oh it's aliens, witches, ghosts, chupacabras, demons, Mary.. *deep breath*.. there's ALWAYS a paranormal explanation. It's "NEVER" explainable -- and that makes for a mass delusion/hoax to be ripe. Don't make me compile a list of proof for how gullible and simple minded people are, because I can -- and it will be 50 pages long. However, that 50 pages might consist of "Global Warming", " New Age Movement", "Government" or ... drum roll please.. "ROCKETS"! Yes, yes, I know. No one "here" is gullible. Of course. So lets assume (for argument sake) that I am talking about everyone else (that isn't actually reading this). Let me tell you something. There are going to be a lot of "signs" in the sky; imminently. The vast majority of people are going to be running around saying: "It's aliens it's aliens!". But I am here today to tell you, it's NOT aliens. Whether aliens exist or not (and what they actually are) is "ANOTHER" matter which wouldn't be heard "here" anyway. But it is going to be SO easy to dupe this populace of this planet, and it is COMING! There are going to be things showing up "all over the earth". Are you going to be on your knees, looking up in the sky, crying, saying: "Oh they've come to save us, they've come to save uuuus" with a quivering bottom lip? Of course not? ... but really, will you? Because from what I see of humanity (and the same old story is being reverbirated on THIS forum of so called "truth seekers"), and believe me -- I look, that's EXACTLY what's coming! People today think they're so modern, all because they have Ipods, cable TV and X-Boxes. But just because these things are invented, does that make the user any more "savvy" or "smarter" than someone who lived 200 years ago? I say a big "NO!". What I say is that people have actually become immensely and demonstrably MORE gullible in modern times. I put it forward that the people of 200 years ago were much more intuitive, brighter, more switched on, more aware and plain out more intelligent in almost ALL respects. This is a wake up call. It's not sugar coated. This post isn't designed to "win friends and influence people". All I want you to do is look in the mirror tonight and say: "What do I really know?", "Am I susceptible to being utterly duped?", "Is my deep and ingrained wish for something more going to cause me to fall to my knees to the first mass experience that can't be explained?". Sadly, I think most people on this forum (and those in the "Disclosure" movement) are not only going to have the wool pulled over their eyes, but scores of people, all over the globe are about to reach a delusion of such massive proportion, that it's going to be the end of humanity as we know it. It's written all over the wall. In my genuine, sincere and watchful opinion - what I see here is 95% of people peeing in each others pockets. I don't say that because I just like causing trouble. I SINCERELY mean it. If you don't agree with me, feel free to respond. My aim isn't to be insulting (although I do acknowledge that this post WILL be taken as such by many) -- I just want to give everyone a kick in the pants and say: SNAP OUT OF IT! ![]() Last edited by WarriorServant; 12-11-2009 at 12:35 PM. Reason: typo correction |
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Dear Warrior Servant
I appreciate your frustration. However this is a whistle blowers etc site so it is as it is. I have posted on your New Age poll thread. Regards Chris |
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I want people to be more skeptical. I look around here and I just feel shattered. There's SO many important things that are utterly missed. There's NO POSSIBLE WAY I could convey what I know to a forum such as this. I have tried to share various information with various people for YEARS, and NONE OF IT reaches the light of day. The PRIMARY reason for that is because everyone's too busy peeing in each others pockets. That's the truth. Let me say it bluntly: FEW people here, or in movements such as whistle blowing or disclosure sincerely want "TRUTH". They want "excitement". That's all most people are after: EXCITEMENT! Fact! Second to excitement is: "A pat on the back". An: "Oh you're wonderful. You're so smart". What I see is a heap of people that wouldn't know shyte from clay. I don't have anything against simple people, but simple know-all's (spreading lies and stories).. that's another story.. edit ie: Greer is the biggest liar in the whole movement. Fact! |
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Can you give us a taste of the real truth we are all so blind to see?
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But let me say this. If you see storms (particularly those with twisters, ie: tornados) and if you see high winds, and massive storm fronts -- FULL with lights, TIP: It's NOT "aliens". Watch the news.. |
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But seriously what is this info that we cant fathom. I am interested, are you talking about some false invasion or hype to come in the future that will catch so many "pocket pissers" of guard?
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Ok...you say this is a fact. What evidence do you have to back up this sweeping statement? This thread is about being careful not to be gullible. So we must put a statement like this to the test...because divide and rule is the oldest trick in the book. Don't you agree? It would be gullible to just take what you say as truth. And THAT'S a fact. |
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So what I ask is that you keep it in mind. |
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I agree with the above statements also, and often feel the same frustration. I feel that Camelot's mission is a serious mission and so should Avalon's mission be a serious one, as well. |
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Rhetorical question my dear
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Hey WS...these are indeed some provocative thoughts you just shared with us here
![]() ![]() I rather wouldn't argue with you, as I highly respect your views. But I only respect them...I'm not here to agree or dissagree with you. This is the way you see the world, the humanity and therefore the members of this forum now and that's fine for me. But... Well, personaly, I don't care of being guillible. How comes? It's simple: being guillible means being full of grace of charity and being full of goodness... Having innocent thoughts means that the one is full of love and compassion...and this means you shouldn't care of being hurt or lied from these people. How about a world full of gullible people ??? If I see the good in you, you will see the good in me. So yes, it realy isn't about making friends or enemies here...but you should consider that many here on this forum really don't need to be kicked anywhere to awaken. If you take your time first and try to learn something about some posters here, you will notice that you can still learn something from them. Just as we could learn from you, if you would stopp kicking us to awaken and share your wisdom with us. with respect malletzky |
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I am well versed with many posters here.
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So you are just another one who came here to preach..why don't you stand somewhere on the corner and share your views with ordinary people. It would be an act of courage and you would do something good for humanity. The people out there need more guidance...and do not say that I am sarcastic, maybe a bit ironic here...
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There is a big difference between being open minded and gulible.
For example. Crop circles are a fact. Lots of theories but I dont profess to know the why and wherfore of them. So yes I agree there is a lot of asumptions flying around but whats true-- you tell me. Chris |
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Are they made by people with sticks and strings? Wait for me to finish laughing and I'll give you an answer.. no. However, let me put this to you. Crop circles have become more intricate as technology has progressed. Look at the early crop circles. Then, look at the ones today. Let me put it to you that if it were "aliens" -- then those aliens had VERY bad technology only decades ago. Think.. |
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Yes that occured to me way back. You seem to make assumptions and as you probably know Assume makes an ass out of you and me. I think it would be helpful in this thread if you actually spelt out what you are trying to impart. I am not in dissagreement with that which you have observed regarding UFOs et all. I agrree that people are looking out with them selves. I would like you to spell out in black and white where you are coming from and share this with us. Regards Chris |
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I think many if not most here are well aware of the plans for tyranny. If you have more detailed information on methods and time frames, by all means share what you know.
Quite often videos are posted here about some plan or another to set up road blocks and start forcing people to wear RFID wrist bands or some such thing, a date is given, people get all worked up, and then nothing happens. There are various ways to view such videos, but one would be to make it seem that the danger you are warning of is not real (invoking the "cry wolf" paradigm). I think the danger is quite real and would appreciate any special insight you might have. As for leaning towards "paranormal" explanations, once you have experienced "paranormal" phenomena first hand, and many here have, it opens up your view of what is possible. In a way, it makes it much harder to interpret peculiar phenomena because you KNOW it could quite possibly be something out of the range of normal experience. This is not quite the same as being gullible, but it certainly behooves us all to hone our powers of discernment. When something big and strange happens that everyone wants to believe is the start of something big, it makes it that much harder. As you have no doubt observed, we are primed and ready to go here - big changes are desired. Tyranny is not one of them, but it may be a stage we have to pass through to really wake up the world. It would be much better if it could be done another way. |
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Yes, I know big changes are desired -- and that is the exact sentiment that will be the detriment of most. |
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To put it simply, it is because what the Bible states is true (and I could put a good case for that, given the chance). However, the world has become, for the most part (as the Bible predicts) a God mocking, Jesus hating, immoral, egotistical, self loving swamp of pride. I do understand why. It is because of "religion" - which is a cancer on the souls of men and turns more people away from the truth than any atheist ever could. Therefore, I COULD "begin" to explain what I know and how I know it. But I know full well, that I would not get more than several responses into my explanations and knowledge (much of which comes with actual experience), without attracting a hoard of satanic New Ager's which would (of course) mock everything I say until every thread or comment I made became so full with mockery and laugher, that any point I tried to make would not come through. So these days, I tend to show up on a forum -- spit out as much truth as possible before I am lynched and then when I am no longer able to post because of the constant interruptions, I simply move along and try to share what I know with the next forum. I would need months to explain what I know (n detail). I would need open minds and sincerity. However, the vast majority of people are incapable of behaving in such a manner, and the moment I'd mention "The Bible" (even if a Biblical reference was a foundational side note, and not my whole point), I would be labeled "religious". Of course, I am not religious, and I cannot stand religion, but the ignorant people of this world seem to hold fast to the idea that the Bible is a religion and that God is incapable of having it written for us (assuming that any person who holds such a view actually acknowledges God and isn't wrapped up in a fantasy of "higher self", "channeling" and "aliens"). Already on this forum, several snide remarks have been made about "preaching" and "Jesus" to my few of my threads and responses -- which I have so far ignored. They are of course, pokes, to see if I will response with a Biblical quote -- and I know what happens at that point. I know full well. The hoard shows up. But it just goes to show, that it is not possible for a forum that is loaded with New Age Movement disciples to learn the actual truth behind things. I have been on other forums before. I was lynched at the utterance of "Jesus". However, even though I mentioned the Bible and Jesus (because it is absolutely necessary for me to convey the "rest" of what I have come to learn), my point was to show people the true reality be hind actual events and circumstances of the world. I have never, to this point, been able to full explain my life story, what I know and how I came to know without being either lynched, banned, losing my temper (which I don't do anymore, but I used to), or simply being unable to post ANYTHING because a dozen or two of the forum members decided that they would follow every post and turn it into a circus. I am not personally upset by this -- only that I cannot get my experiences out to people. I understand that I do not have much time left on this forum (after this post), before I am lynched. I will then, of course, move to the next forum and try again. I would advise, that any forum looking for truth (earnestly looking for truth) set a policy that gang bashing people who derive their message from the Bible, be extended the same courtesy of those who preach the religion of channeling, tarot cards and aliens -- without mockery. This is because there are many people on this earth who "have the truth: or at the very least -- a nice portion of it (literally from God), and have been shown the truth with both visions and personal experiences, along with a true gift of discernment according to God's word -- and it would not hurt anyone to at least let such people speak without being abused. On any forum full of New Age people, any topic is allowed. Everything is tolerated (you name it) - except the views of anyone who mentions "Jesus". That says something right there. It is sad, because there are a LOT of knowledgeable people on tis earth, who are very intelligent, very wise and have experienced the most phenomenal things that want to share them, but feel as if they have to fit in with the New Agers to do so. However, I will not and cannot. I can handle the odd joke and the odd snide remark. Don't get me wrong. I don't go around handing out flatteries either, if I don't agree with something. There is such a thing as "being frank" and I am not adverse to it. It's not that I am thin skinned. I am actually quite patient, but when the mockery gets to a point where conversation is literally hijacked (purposefully) and turned into a festival of laugher and one-upmanship to see who can be the most insulting, the message (or the attempt at delivering it) gets lost. That's the sad part. That's the frustrating part. I have a LOT to say, but I can never get around to actually saying it. If I just "spit it out" off the bat, I can't even get started before the threads become a circus. I can even handle constant questioning (even though it's distracting), like people who want to test me on why I believe what I believe. However, any "Jesus" thread on a forum full of New Ager's (such as this forum) WILL be pulled down to the ground like a pride of lions on a deer. Yes, I will combat New Age statements. I will offer my view that it's garbage (if I think a statement is). But I leave it at that. I don't hang around the thread and follow the person around day in and day out with 12 of my friends, doing everything I can for a laugh -- and to eventually have that person leave. That's just sad. I see it ALL OVER the Internet, and only ever happens to anyone who loves God -- which are usually genuine, honest and caring people who are sincerely trying to convey information, but then get all upset and flustered and wind up getting upset. If I were running a large forum, I one of my policies would be that "debate" and "argument" is allowed, but group bashings and going "on and on" to abuse the statement of one person (no matter WHAT they were) would be strictly not allowed, because -- again: No one knows WHAT that person might "know", who they "are", where they got their information from (aside from prayer and the Bible), and what they may be trying to lead to. Hint: It's not always: YOU'RE GOING TO HELL SINNER! (I would never say that anyway). Let me say this: No one on this forum will find truth if they hate God. That's the truth. What people need to understand is that although the "church" (which is not a building -- it is "God's people") has fallen away (as the Bible said it would), and that the vast majority of people who say they are Christian are not, there ARE "some" people in this world who are not religious, but do have a relationship with the most high, and can understand the spiritual messages of both the Bible and spiritual origins of things that are happening in the world - and want to share it. But it takes time, sincerity and patience. |
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A zealot with too much time on their hands.
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