Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans

[peaceandlove]

I posted this in another thread (Whistleblower Testimony) and then realized it might get lost there.

When I listened to Alex Collier's 5/18/2008 1/7 video posted on youtube:

NEW LINK - OLD LINK REMOVED BY USER

(Partial transcription starts at minute 3:00 of part 3/7.)

back in May, I transcribed part of it so I could remind myself and share with others:

More on Alex Collier at: http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/to...024:Topic:2364

Please enjoy...

MESSAGE FROM THE ANDROMEDANS

Alex says:
"We're already who we (Earthlings) need to be; it's just a question of remembering."

"And in that remembering, it's about letting go, of what we would be perceive as mistakes, of regrets."

He asked Vissaeus ~ Andromedan:
"What's going to happen to us? What is it that you want me to do?"

Vissaeus answers:
"This is how we foresee who you all become."

"Responsible freedom of self-determination becoming truly self-confident and free. To unconditionally be responsible for yourself without being coerced by some other authority."

"The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry lifetime after lifetime."

"In being consciously aware of not choosing to withhold love is an amazing feat and it is not an easy one either."

Alex Collier comments:
"It doesn't always mean that I make the best choices or the right choices."

Vissaeus continues:
"The most necessary action for all of your Terraview races who are aware is to do whatever you are capable of to (eliminate) illuminate your degenerated societies."

(When I first transcribed this I thought he said eliminate and now, listening to it again recently, I think he said illuminate...minute 6:18 of 4/7)

"Consciousness is your scale, it always provides balance, which does not ever fail. It speaks to those who listen and tells them what to do and what not to do. Not to one or all beings who choose to be evolved. The administrators of your government are responsible for professional order, but not your moral codes of order."

"The key to your happiness Terrans is in the hands of your own consciousness. We have perceived that you Terrans have arranged your lives not according to yourselves, but according to others."

"Your disappointments are due to this fact. This kind of conduct of yours is what is limiting your races. Each one of you is a free soul, a free consciousness. No one is the servant or slave of anyone else. Though the hidden ones will trick you to believe otherwise. Mutual respect is imperative for a healed planet and race. Our help is being extended to you if you so want it . Because of your genetic lineages to our races we would like to be there with you during your difficult times. Today your planet and your race destroys itself in ignorance."

"The goal is to recover the genuine human beings lost deep within yourselves."

"And try to always be at one with yourself."

Morenae ~ Andromedan: (1998 ~ He makes reference to December 3, 2013 moving into Fifth Density)
"All of us regardless of our form or our dimensional growth, live in a boundless consciousness. It does appear that all things seem to revolve and evolve in cycles."

"Now after the blindness of 5725 years, you and your Terra are about to regain yourselves. It will be such an unprecedented change that it will be difficult for many to grasp their own potential. It is the turning point on your world which none of your planet's forefathers were privileged to ever experience."

Alex explains:
"In Andromeda one of the things that they stress is creating a race of leaders. In that leadership everyone has a responsibility to not only be a leader themselves but to make a leader of everyone else. And in that, everyone moves together. There may be varying different degrees, but everyone moves together. This is something that they have stressed over and over and over again. They have also stressed being as close to nature as possible."

"We are the only planet, that Alex is aware of, that uses currency. In fact, he had an experience where Morenae and Vissaeus had asked him to try to explain to them why we used money or what they referred to as paper with pictures on it."

"I spent a great deal of time in between contacts putting something together for them. I had a contact and had this opportunity to present this information to them."

"As I was presenting it, I was going through it, I had a paper with me that I was reading it off and had little charts that I had carried in my back pack. Of course they already knew this information since they had been watching our history."

"And when it was all over."

Morenae says:
"Thank you very much I enjoyed it."

Vissaeus just looked at him and had a very straight face and said:
"I don't understand."

Alex says:
"What don't you understand?"

Vissaeus responds:
"I don't understand why you have to pay to live on a planet you were born on?"

Alex says:
"That haunted me for many years, that statement."

Alex continues:
"How do we unravel that? What do we create in order to drop that paradigm? And how do we create it? Who is going to step up and say you know what, we have fought wars over money, we have fought wars over gold, we have fought wars over this and fought wars over that, We have nearly destroyed the planet. We have destroyed species. We're destroying humanity. And it's all over power, wealth and things like that. How do we move from this paradigm to the next paradigm? How do we do it?"

"I know there are a lot of folks trying, making suggestions, talking to people, sharing their perspectives."

"The extraterrestrial civilizations have given up on the governments of the Earth a long time ago. The only ones that are fully integrating with a lot of the Earth's governments you don't really want to know anyway."

"How do we find our soul again? What does it take to change the essence of a man? Is there a phrase? Is there a mantra? Is there a prayer? Is there an event? What does it take to change the essence of a man or a woman?"

"I do not have the answer but I am asking the question and have been for a long time."

"Many of us have completely lost our way. We know a lot of good people who would do anything for us as friends, but they simply don't have a clue. We want them to be aware of the changes that are coming. You can put all this information in front of them and they're simply going to just dismiss it, because it is too overwhelming to them. They have to take it in little bites and little slices. They just simply don't want to deal with it because they are so overwhelmed just trying to manage a life that already doesn't work. Or, they're not already happy with, because it's all that they know and they're afraid to let it go because they don't have anything else to believe in, just what it is that they do every day."

"In creating a new domain of knowing and asking the question, what is it that we want? It has to be something that everybody can take hold of a piece of."

Alex continues:
"For example, every day there are little things that we could do to begin shifting our consciousness. Every day when we get up, the first thing we should do is be grateful that we're alive to see another day. And just make that acknowledgment...Spirit, thank you."

"Always tell your children that you love them. Every day. Tell them that you're proud of them. Always tell your wife that you love her or your partner that you love him or her. Always be friendly and cordial at the office. When you hear an ambulance drive by just say a blessing. Say I bless whoever that's for and that their highest good is what is achieved. Little things like that."

"When you walk into a room, just say I bless this room. Little things like that make all the difference. Because it's conscious intent that every day when you do things like that, those things are easy to do. What you do is you begin to polarize, you begin to magnetize those spaces with your thoughts. And whatever you magnetize and you put out, it will come back, it will be mirrored back to you. That is why Earth is the boot camp for the soul. It's because that's what it does, it mirrors our sh*t back to us. You know, and the more sh*t...the more sh*t. (laughter) And that's why it's so overwhelming after a while."

"So it's little things. Because these are things I've had to try to do and I struggle to remember them every day. These are little things that I can do. I bless my food and bless my coffee. What you do is just get into a space of blessing everything and it does in fact change the frequency. It will change the people that you work with. It might take a little while. But these are simple things; just little things that you can remember to do every day. At lunch time go for a walk, don't just sit in your cubicle, go outside. If you have to go to the bathroom, don't go right back to your cubicle, go outside make a loop around the building. Give yourself a break, just remember where you are. Don't get stuck in just being so in a rut that you forget. Because it's easy. That's why we're so stuck on Earth."

"The extraterrestrials, the visitations, the psychic phenomena, the paranormal phenomena. All of that stuff is us. It's all happening to us because it is us. These are all reminders of who we are. All we have to do is get out of our own way."

With Peace and Love in Mind,

[Avid]

Thank you for this

[uboslav]

Thanks very much for posting this. Alex does seem like a sincere individual. There is some very interesting information in his book aswell. "defending sacred ground"

I don't mean to be a jerk but is there ANY proof to anything he says.There are alot of people talking about stuff but how much of it is true.I thought he was very sincere as well but that still doesn't cut it.A good conman will fool the smartest of people.I am not calling him a conman but I am just curious why people believe him without proof.
Does not a good lie start by believing it yourself??

[Shechaiyah]

I have Collier's 1994 FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE tape--

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92185126189734

which is a historical record.

His site reflects the deceit and perfidy that my site catalogues also.

"The New World Order is an ALIEN AGENDA," struck me as too True to be obvious to those who watching television all the time.


Shech--
Edited to add comments.

How is it historical record??I saw this interview and he just seems like a reg nice guy but with NO PROOF!!!Having stuff on a site doesn't make it true.
All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying.

[sunnyrap]

Not that I don't agree somewhat with your question--I get frustrated to the nines because there never seems to be any pictures of the stuff these contactees talk about--at best, fuzzy, your-guess-is-as-good-as mine shots... However, we accept eyewitness testimony and circumstantial evidence in our courts of law as valid proof, why not in his case?

What I am hearing/seeing more and more is that these more highly advanced beings exist on other planes of energy/dimensions/(insert indecipherable physics quote here), so pictures can't really capture their image, only our consciousness can, if we happened to be tuned into their 'frequency'--probably with their help. This makes a certain amount of sense when you consider that animals can hear sounds we can't, others can see heat/energy signatures that we can't. In fact, our technology and our senses are just geared to our narrow band of frequencies.

I read a passage allegedly transcribed from one of the 'greys' in which it commented that their skin color wasn't really grey, but a color our eyes couldn't see because it was outside the violet-to-yellow band we're aware of and built to see....so the color just registers as 'grey' to our eyes. We'd just have to take its word for it, wouldn't we?

[Mike_Jetson]

Anyone who runs around looking for solid proof wont see it until they experience it. If the solid proof that you want was available then you wouldnt need to go looking as it would become standard truth very quickly

good point

[spiritual_wanderer]

I watched the q1994 interview with him:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92185126189734

and really liked it.

For me, it's not so much having proof of anything. It's more about just listening, and if I feel resonance with it, I take something away. If not, I just move on.

I've never listened to one single person talk of their experiences and said to myself, "Wow, this is it, now I know 100%!" I will probably always have a little doubt, but the possibilities will always remain and I will always keep an open mind.

There must be a reason I am drawn to all this stuff.

Hoaglund has proof in pics and logic...Cooper was a bit of an embellisher and Salle I don't know of and Burisch I would love to believe but I think in the ufo community there are a third of people with facts a third with no facts and a story and another third that are just plain lying.How can anybody just openly accept what they are told??

Now I'll shuddup!!!

[uboslav]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

Anyone who runs around looking for solid proof wont see it until they experience it. If the solid proof that you want was available then you wouldnt need to go looking as it would become standard truth very quickly

We are conditioned to accept only things that "science" can prove. It's time for people to start searching for answers within themselves because it is a little bit obvious that we cannot trust the things that have been hammered into our brains by the media, our school systems and our so called authorities.

There is alot more to what is going on than what we are told. What is proof? Is proof when a "teacher", or "expert" or "news anchor" says so? What sort of proof are u people looking for?

People are conditioned to a level that is almost frightening. I truly feel for Alex Collier and thank him for having the courage to stand up against an army of conditioned people and offer his knowledge and experiences.

[Shechaiyah]

Originally Posted by MusicLover

How is it historical record??

I saw this interview and he just seems like a reg nice guy but with NO PROOF!!!Having stuff on a site doesn't make it true. All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying.

QUERY:
How it is a historical record?

It is a very complete summary of what cooper, hoagland, salla, burisch and the whole ET/UFO community has been telling us for decades.

He does an excellent job of integrating the micro and the macro. He's a good history teacher because he uses summaries frequently to help the listener navigated through such a huge knowledge base.

As a teacher, I'm impressed with his delivery and outline.


Shech--

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

QUERY:
How it is a historical record?

It is a very complete summary of what cooper, hoagland, salla, burisch and the whole ET/UFO community has been telling us for decades.

He does an excellent job of integrating the micro and the macro. He's a good history teacher because he uses summaries frequently to help the listener navigated through such a huge knowledge base.

As a teacher, I'm impressed with his delivery and outline.


Shech--

But he got the point across to you\us.....He served well

[Fredkc]

Music Lover;
"I feel your pain."
I go back and forth on such matters myself. Said this before but, I am sick to death of investigating "sure things" that turn out to be nothing more than fuzzy dots. When it comes with windows that have windhield wipers, and lil folk peeking out, or a believable photo thereof, then I'll say I've seen one.

I also have no more time for the likes of Alex (buy my video!) Jones, who spend their time (buy my book!) scaring people to death with (buy my DVD!) doom gloom and despair (buy my stuff!) while never offering a plan, (buy my other stuff!) or solutions. "Clearly they have their reward."

Which brings me to a third clump.
There is years and years of reading available on the Net, that starts with, "I know a guy who was told by a reliable source, whose best friend used to live with a woman who..."... gimme a break! This kind of "recombinant data" is available in such mass quantities, that now I just take the grain of salt, and toss the data. It saves time.

Alex Collier;
AC's stuff falls into what I'd call "2nd hand subjective".

All you really have, in the end, is your own BS-Meter. To this all I can add, for myself, is to compare it against the several kinds of 1st person subjective experiences I've had over the years, and how I'd react.

I first watched Collier last week on the Camelot video. I came away with these:

• He doesn't appear to be the "hero" in his story.
• He isn't looking for "followers".
• He'd rather not be there.
• I don't think he's selling something.
• He appears as, or more deeply moved by what he has to say then anyone else.
• He is talking about solutions which do not require him, and "do no harm".

I come away with the strong impression that he does believe whoever it is he's talking to. When I think of trying to relate to people the events of the 1st person subjective things I've been part of, I think I'd come across about the same.

And so I'm left with that final leap. All I can say is when I consider the information which relates to our situation, and weigh it against my own beliefs, I think he is on track. And very brave.

Fred

[Fredkc]

To this I'd like to add this Collier quote from another thread...

'Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.'

Does this sound like someone trying to amass wealth, or build a cult, to anyone else?
I sure don't see it.

When all else fails: Defending Sacred Ground.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by Fredkc

To this I'd like to add this Collier quote from another thread...

'Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.'

lol its the worst kind of advice


turn away and do not bother God

as if we can put some pressure on Him


this is NWO people


let the blind lead themselves

while we devour them


Oh and the worst case is

without God

you will be the head blind

[solent]

I think what Alex means by this is, that we should take control of our lives, steer it in the direction we require, and stop giving our devine rights away, after all does't G-d support all? Meaning he has no problem with what the negative forces do as to him it is all experiance, and everything/one comes back home eventually.....

[Lionhawk]

Alex Collier stated:

"Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself."

I don't see anywhere in that quote where he says turn away from God. Another attempt to change the context of that message has been made. I might not be the smartest rock in the box, but I'm not the most stupid rock in the box either.

That has got to be one of the most classic attempts of manipulation I have ever seen. My problem is that I know how to read and comprehend most things written except for that lawyer language.

There is nothing in this quote that would tell anyone something of a lie. It is an empowering statement to be realized. Many want to be saved and it is so easy to see why that is. To mis inform everyone else and to put different words in someone's mouth is just that. It is so transparent. But keep in mind I am not taking what others take as far as what numbs them into servitude. But that is just me. For you folks out there, spot this one. It's a no brainer.

[Sadie]

Alex Collier is one of my favorite speakers.

Everything he speaks rings sincere, at least to me.
And makes perfect sense. And requires more thought on my part.

I frequently re-listen to one of his old videos, to refresh my memory.
And I would to hear love a new interview,
but know that it would really not be very different information.
His experiences, and truth, are what they are.

Sadie

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by solent

I think what Alex means by this is, that we should take control of our lives, steer it in the direction we require, and stop giving our devine rights away, after all does't G-d support all? Meaning he has no problem with what the negative forces do as to him it is all experiance, and everything/one comes back home eventually.....

God does not support evil

but if we choose it

He will allow it

for some time

for it is in times of trouble

there is a rush

towards

God

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by MusicLover

John Hogue was a guest on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last night.
After viewing your post and reading his prediction here, I understood.

THE AGE OF BELIEF ENDS


PREDICTION: "After 2008, it will not be enough merely to "believe" something. People will feel the first stirrings of wanting "to know" something is true, first hand, about themselves, their world, and the mystery of existence. They do this guided by feeling the new dispensation of history that is the coming Aquarian Age."



More Predictions Posted @ Project Avalon Forum, Visions of the Future.

Also http://hogueprophecy.com/predictions2008.htm

Interesting topic on left side of his webpage: Who is MABUS?




Pleeeased to meet you can you guess my naaime?

[Elephant Man]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

John Hogue was a guest on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last night.
After viewing your post and reading his prediction here, I understood.

THE AGE OF BELIEF ENDS


PREDICTION: "After 2008, it will not be enough merely to "believe" something. People will feel the first stirrings of wanting "to know" something is true, first hand, about themselves, their world, and the mystery of existence. They do this guided by feeling the new dispensation of history that is the coming Aquarian Age."



More Predictions Posted @ Project Avalon Forum, Visions of the Future.

Also hogueprophecy.com/predictions2008.htm

Interesting topic on left side of his webpage: Who is MABUS?




Pleeeased to meet you can you guess my naaime?

Nice

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by MusicLover

I don't mean to be a jerk but is there ANY proof to anything he says.There are alot of people talking about stuff but how much of it is true.I thought he was very sincere as well but that still doesn't cut it.A good conman will fool the smartest of people.I am not calling him a conman but I am just curious why people believe him without proof.
Does not a good lie start by believing it yourself??

When I first got into this I was researching the Twin Towers and i watched his lectures on You tube and it was his lectures that caused me to really open my eyes if I hadn`t seen any of his stuff I don`t think I`d be writing or having anything to do with this stuff right now