Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans

How is it historical record??I saw this interview and he just seems like a reg nice guy but with NO PROOF!!!Having stuff on a site doesn't make it true.
All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying.

[sunnyrap]

Not that I don't agree somewhat with your question--I get frustrated to the nines because there never seems to be any pictures of the stuff these contactees talk about--at best, fuzzy, your-guess-is-as-good-as mine shots... However, we accept eyewitness testimony and circumstantial evidence in our courts of law as valid proof, why not in his case?

What I am hearing/seeing more and more is that these more highly advanced beings exist on other planes of energy/dimensions/(insert indecipherable physics quote here), so pictures can't really capture their image, only our consciousness can, if we happened to be tuned into their 'frequency'--probably with their help. This makes a certain amount of sense when you consider that animals can hear sounds we can't, others can see heat/energy signatures that we can't. In fact, our technology and our senses are just geared to our narrow band of frequencies.

I read a passage allegedly transcribed from one of the 'greys' in which it commented that their skin color wasn't really grey, but a color our eyes couldn't see because it was outside the violet-to-yellow band we're aware of and built to see....so the color just registers as 'grey' to our eyes. We'd just have to take its word for it, wouldn't we?

[Mike_Jetson]

Anyone who runs around looking for solid proof wont see it until they experience it. If the solid proof that you want was available then you wouldnt need to go looking as it would become standard truth very quickly

good point

[spiritual_wanderer]

I watched the q1994 interview with him:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92185126189734

and really liked it.

For me, it's not so much having proof of anything. It's more about just listening, and if I feel resonance with it, I take something away. If not, I just move on.

I've never listened to one single person talk of their experiences and said to myself, "Wow, this is it, now I know 100%!" I will probably always have a little doubt, but the possibilities will always remain and I will always keep an open mind.

There must be a reason I am drawn to all this stuff.

Hoaglund has proof in pics and logic...Cooper was a bit of an embellisher and Salle I don't know of and Burisch I would love to believe but I think in the ufo community there are a third of people with facts a third with no facts and a story and another third that are just plain lying.How can anybody just openly accept what they are told??

Now I'll shuddup!!!

[uboslav]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

Anyone who runs around looking for solid proof wont see it until they experience it. If the solid proof that you want was available then you wouldnt need to go looking as it would become standard truth very quickly

We are conditioned to accept only things that "science" can prove. It's time for people to start searching for answers within themselves because it is a little bit obvious that we cannot trust the things that have been hammered into our brains by the media, our school systems and our so called authorities.

There is alot more to what is going on than what we are told. What is proof? Is proof when a "teacher", or "expert" or "news anchor" says so? What sort of proof are u people looking for?

People are conditioned to a level that is almost frightening. I truly feel for Alex Collier and thank him for having the courage to stand up against an army of conditioned people and offer his knowledge and experiences.

[Shechaiyah]

Originally Posted by MusicLover

How is it historical record??

I saw this interview and he just seems like a reg nice guy but with NO PROOF!!!Having stuff on a site doesn't make it true. All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying.

QUERY:
How it is a historical record?

It is a very complete summary of what cooper, hoagland, salla, burisch and the whole ET/UFO community has been telling us for decades.

He does an excellent job of integrating the micro and the macro. He's a good history teacher because he uses summaries frequently to help the listener navigated through such a huge knowledge base.

As a teacher, I'm impressed with his delivery and outline.


Shech--

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

QUERY:
How it is a historical record?

It is a very complete summary of what cooper, hoagland, salla, burisch and the whole ET/UFO community has been telling us for decades.

He does an excellent job of integrating the micro and the macro. He's a good history teacher because he uses summaries frequently to help the listener navigated through such a huge knowledge base.

As a teacher, I'm impressed with his delivery and outline.


Shech--

But he got the point across to you\us.....He served well

[Fredkc]

Music Lover;
"I feel your pain."
I go back and forth on such matters myself. Said this before but, I am sick to death of investigating "sure things" that turn out to be nothing more than fuzzy dots. When it comes with windows that have windhield wipers, and lil folk peeking out, or a believable photo thereof, then I'll say I've seen one.

I also have no more time for the likes of Alex (buy my video!) Jones, who spend their time (buy my book!) scaring people to death with (buy my DVD!) doom gloom and despair (buy my stuff!) while never offering a plan, (buy my other stuff!) or solutions. "Clearly they have their reward."

Which brings me to a third clump.
There is years and years of reading available on the Net, that starts with, "I know a guy who was told by a reliable source, whose best friend used to live with a woman who..."... gimme a break! This kind of "recombinant data" is available in such mass quantities, that now I just take the grain of salt, and toss the data. It saves time.

Alex Collier;
AC's stuff falls into what I'd call "2nd hand subjective".

All you really have, in the end, is your own BS-Meter. To this all I can add, for myself, is to compare it against the several kinds of 1st person subjective experiences I've had over the years, and how I'd react.

I first watched Collier last week on the Camelot video. I came away with these:

• He doesn't appear to be the "hero" in his story.
• He isn't looking for "followers".
• He'd rather not be there.
• I don't think he's selling something.
• He appears as, or more deeply moved by what he has to say then anyone else.
• He is talking about solutions which do not require him, and "do no harm".

I come away with the strong impression that he does believe whoever it is he's talking to. When I think of trying to relate to people the events of the 1st person subjective things I've been part of, I think I'd come across about the same.

And so I'm left with that final leap. All I can say is when I consider the information which relates to our situation, and weigh it against my own beliefs, I think he is on track. And very brave.

Fred

[Fredkc]

To this I'd like to add this Collier quote from another thread...

'Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.'

Does this sound like someone trying to amass wealth, or build a cult, to anyone else?
I sure don't see it.

When all else fails: Defending Sacred Ground.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by Fredkc

To this I'd like to add this Collier quote from another thread...

'Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.'

lol its the worst kind of advice


turn away and do not bother God

as if we can put some pressure on Him


this is NWO people


let the blind lead themselves

while we devour them


Oh and the worst case is

without God

you will be the head blind

[solent]

I think what Alex means by this is, that we should take control of our lives, steer it in the direction we require, and stop giving our devine rights away, after all does't G-d support all? Meaning he has no problem with what the negative forces do as to him it is all experiance, and everything/one comes back home eventually.....

[Lionhawk]

Alex Collier stated:

"Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself."

I don't see anywhere in that quote where he says turn away from God. Another attempt to change the context of that message has been made. I might not be the smartest rock in the box, but I'm not the most stupid rock in the box either.

That has got to be one of the most classic attempts of manipulation I have ever seen. My problem is that I know how to read and comprehend most things written except for that lawyer language.

There is nothing in this quote that would tell anyone something of a lie. It is an empowering statement to be realized. Many want to be saved and it is so easy to see why that is. To mis inform everyone else and to put different words in someone's mouth is just that. It is so transparent. But keep in mind I am not taking what others take as far as what numbs them into servitude. But that is just me. For you folks out there, spot this one. It's a no brainer.

[Sadie]

Alex Collier is one of my favorite speakers.

Everything he speaks rings sincere, at least to me.
And makes perfect sense. And requires more thought on my part.

I frequently re-listen to one of his old videos, to refresh my memory.
And I would to hear love a new interview,
but know that it would really not be very different information.
His experiences, and truth, are what they are.

Sadie

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by solent

I think what Alex means by this is, that we should take control of our lives, steer it in the direction we require, and stop giving our devine rights away, after all does't G-d support all? Meaning he has no problem with what the negative forces do as to him it is all experiance, and everything/one comes back home eventually.....

God does not support evil

but if we choose it

He will allow it

for some time

for it is in times of trouble

there is a rush

towards

God

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by MusicLover

John Hogue was a guest on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last night.
After viewing your post and reading his prediction here, I understood.

THE AGE OF BELIEF ENDS


PREDICTION: "After 2008, it will not be enough merely to "believe" something. People will feel the first stirrings of wanting "to know" something is true, first hand, about themselves, their world, and the mystery of existence. They do this guided by feeling the new dispensation of history that is the coming Aquarian Age."



More Predictions Posted @ Project Avalon Forum, Visions of the Future.

Also http://hogueprophecy.com/predictions2008.htm

Interesting topic on left side of his webpage: Who is MABUS?




Pleeeased to meet you can you guess my naaime?

[Elephant Man]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

John Hogue was a guest on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last night.
After viewing your post and reading his prediction here, I understood.

THE AGE OF BELIEF ENDS


PREDICTION: "After 2008, it will not be enough merely to "believe" something. People will feel the first stirrings of wanting "to know" something is true, first hand, about themselves, their world, and the mystery of existence. They do this guided by feeling the new dispensation of history that is the coming Aquarian Age."



More Predictions Posted @ Project Avalon Forum, Visions of the Future.

Also hogueprophecy.com/predictions2008.htm

Interesting topic on left side of his webpage: Who is MABUS?




Pleeeased to meet you can you guess my naaime?

Nice