What was Jesus then?

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by Merkhava

--- quoting milk and honey ---
"Jesus the 'Son of Man' became Jesus 'the Christ' (the Sun / Son of God) because he opened and surrendered to the inner light, called in the western scripture "Christos" and in the east, "Krishna" and "Buddha'"

I have considered the New Age interpretation that espouses the “Christ-consciousness” and for my own serious consideration, I have to reject it. I think you have it backwards. A son of man didn’t become a god, but rather, the Almighty God (the Logos) became the Son of Man.

You're right, the Logos became the Son of Man. Jesus fulfilled his spiritual potential by realising the Son of God within him and so can we. I called this process a "be-coming". The Logos created the material universe and billions of spiritual beings who incarnated and fell into a lower state of consciousness thus distorting the divine image. Jesus taught us how to BE-COME that which we already are by transcending the imperfect image through the healing presence of the Christ -- the true light within us.

He said... "Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect"

By the interior light, Jesus spiritually perfected himself and gave us the example of how we too can realise soul perfection. The divine image already IS within us because it is the pattern of our divine origin. THE LOGOS.

There will remain a warring in our members (as Paul wrote) until the soul's divine image is restored. The spirit can transmute and transform the soul if is realised as a personal interior presence.

So naturally we can't accomplish this transformation by 'behavior modification' alone. Christhood is a state of consciousness so we must uncover the same Christ spirit which animated Jesus and which enabled him to perform his works. He told us where we would find that spirit (within ourselves) and Paul admonished us to "Have that Mind in you which was in Christ Jesus". That of course is the 'Christ Mind' which resides right where Jesus said it does... "within you"

We're all extensions (in matter) of the Logos (in spirit) which is the Universal Christ individualised within each soul. As i said, essentially we cannot become something we are not already, it's just that we've distorted the Divine Soul Image (in which we were made by the "word") so now we must transform that image by the power of the Logos within. That is Jesus' message.

Originally Posted by Merkhava

I defer to Apostle John, who was the last survivor of The Twelve, who wrote:

“In the beginning (before there was Time) was the Word (the Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. He was present originally with God. All things came into existence through Him; and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being.

Your quote from the Book of John is taken virtually verbatim from the eastern Vedas which are aprox 5000 years old. In the original Vedic scripture the word BRAHMAN is used in place of the word GOD but they're both refering to GOD and saying the exact same things about the "word" in relation to God.

2 more things...

John wrote that everything is the issue of the Logos or 'word'. It is written elsewhere that Jesus was the "incarnation of the word" but Jesus taught us that so are we if we will realise our full potential as sons of God. He invited us to seek and find the indwelling Presence of the Logos right within us which he called the "kingdom of God".

We are ONE in Christ. We issue from the same Father with whom was the "word" in the beginning. That is what John is saying and so is Jesus in various ways. We are his brothers and sisters who all share the same christ-consciousness and the same spiritual origin as him. And since we all issue from the Logos (the "word") we can return to it if we follow in Jesus footsteps.

As i said, the opening sentences of the Book of John were virtually identical to the Vedic texts written ~5000 years ago. Where did he get them? Most likely Jesus taught John that verse from his own travels in the east during the ~ 17 years missing from the Bible. Jesus disappears from the bible commentary at the age of 12 at which time, according to buddhist texts, he travelled east and studied the ancient wisdom teachings, some of which appear in various religious texts.

Originally Posted by Merkhava

And the Word became flesh (incarnate) and tabernacled (pitched His tent of flesh awhile) among us; and we saw His majestic glory, such radiance as an only begotten Son receives from His Father, full of grace and truth.” (John 1:1-3, 14)

This quote speaks of Jesus and the Christ, both synonymous. Jesus taught us that we too are the "word made flesh". The "Word" is the 'Only Begotten Son' which is the Universal Christ-consciousness which is the "body of Christ" broken for All. A portion of the "broken body" of Christ is individualised within each person. Jesus called it the "kingdom of heaven" which is the interior Christ-consciousness. The radiance of the Christ Presence is within each of us and i am sure of it because i have seen it.

Originally Posted by Merkhava

The question is “What is Jesus?”

It is of utmost importance to us each individually to get the answer right, because it speaks to the heart of such matters as:

1) Where did I come from?
2) Why am I and why here?
3) What will become of me?

I believe the answers to these questions ^^^are found in the quotes both you and i highlighted and i've interpreted their meaning according to a broader reading of scripture and intuition.

In the following paragraphs i've taken liberty to bold my interpretation of your statements and bible quotes as i see them and i'll add a link for you to study also if you wish. I believe christendom has thoroughly misrepresented Jesus true teaching and has replaced it with a false doctrine that reduces salvation to a simplistic formula involving baptism and confession of an external savior figure. That was not Jesus' real message.

Originally Posted by Merkhava

So what is Jesus?

I accept as the truth that Yeshua HaMashiakh is the Almighty God in the flesh. I accept that the Resurrection did really happen and is a literal historical fact, and that that historical event provides a rational basis for me to have hope of eternal life as an immortal son of God.

Jesus taught that we are all "God" in the flesh but that we must realise our true nature and potential as he did".

I don't deny the resurrection, the crucifixion or the ascension. I simply point out that those milestones in Jesus own path of Christhood are symbolic of deeper spiritual truths that relate to the path of personal Christhood for each of us. That explains why some of the same symbols predate Jesus mission ~2000 yrs ago. They're symbolic of the personal path to God realisation we must all walk.

And I find comfort through all my frustrations and pains in this mortal life when I remember the Lord’s words when He promised:

“Do not let your hearts be distressed with fear by your troubles. You trust in God. Trust also in Me.

True. The Christ issues from the Father which is within each of us if we will seek and find it. Trust the interior presence of God. It is the "kingdom of heaven" within.

In My Father's house there are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I AM going away to prepare a place for you. And if I go away and make ready a place for you, I will without a doubt come back again and will take you to Myself, so that where I AM you may be also. And to the place where I AM going, you know the way.”

There are many levels of consciousness in God's being. The "place" (in consciousness) Jesus prepares is only accessible by entering the "kingdom" (the christ-consciousness) within us. It is a state of consciousness which will propell us into higher planes of God's being.

Jesus can be found right now in the "place prepared".... Right Within. He is ONE with the Univeral Christ Spirit and we will return to it and to him by following The Way which he taught. That Way is within, wherein all the love and intelligence of Christos guides, heals and transforms our whole being

Then Thomas said to Him,

“Lord, we don’t know where You are going, so how can we know the way?”

Yeshua said to him,

“I AM the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you had learned to recognize Me, you would also have learned to recognize My Father.”

This statement by Jesus is referring both to his person and to the Universal Christ within all because Jesus is ONE with ALL. The recognition and embrace of the indwelling christ-consciousness is the lifeline to the I AM (the Father). There are no external paths or fundamentalist formulas to the kingdom of heaven. It is within us.

See this link for much more on the subject : www.askrealjesus.com/