The Catalyst

[Anomaly]

Originally Posted by sun-toon´

I would not expect 'awakening' to be "brain fog", but rather clarity...at least eventually.


Do you have links to these forums? That would be better than the broad search links you posted.

http://www.kundalini-support.com/forum/read.php?2,82
http://www.kundalinisupport.com/supportforum.html
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1017
http://www.kundalini-support.com/forum/list.php?2
http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/sho...47&postcount=7
http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/sho...65&postcount=7
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2146
http://www.kundalinisupport.com/symptoms.html
http://gnosticteachings.org/forum/in...hreaded&start=
http://kundalini1.ning.com/forum

kundalini awakening personal stories -
http://www.siddhashram.org/e199404k.shtml
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Who has gone through this alleged Morgellons/Kundalini transformation and what is their condition now? Are they healthy and beyond "brain fog" and the physical symptoms? Where is the evidence, beyond these conjectures that this unpleasant condition is the onset of a human evolutionary change?

If you guys want to sell this on a public forum, it's up to you to present the evidence, not for the rest of us to research it ourselves.

I think you're just really freaking lazy and you don't want to add anything constructive to this conversation, you just want to sit there and be entertained or educated without doing your own searches in order to benefit yourself and others. It's just like you're like "nnnno. uh-uh. gimme."

That you're convinced of your theory is clear, but the evidence to back it up...while it may be there, has not been presented. No links, no documentation, no quotes from newly evolved survivors, just a whole lot about how sure you are that your conclusions are the only ones possible.

well here is some info for you.


Inner Seed Of Human Evolution

PROPOSAL FOR A SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION INTO THE BIOLOGICAL MECHANISM BEHIND HUMAN EVOLUTION

A New Human Body (a lady's transformational experience currently updated monthly)

Kundalini - The Divine Possibilities in Man


I'm not trying to sell anything. Even an idea. I'm not here to convince you.
I'm here to discuss it with other people.
To discuss the apparent arising of mass kundalini awakenings through some sort of biological trigger. Primarily in the states.
Kundalini is not 'native' to Hindu scripture but finds it's parallels in the caduceus symbolism of Greek myth's Hermes, the Egyptian Uraeus, the Snake in the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden, Moses' brazen serpent, the feathered serpent of Central American lore.. The Wyrm of Nordic lore etc etc etc...

You can let the reality of the situation pass you by, and not do your homework, and not research it on your own, or wait for that person's movie to come out and enjoy it there..

There will only be absolute tangible proof when the first people to complete the change actually do... and I don't think they will until Christmas of 2012 (3 days after the alignment on dec 22nd (not 21st).. (Christ was in the tomb for 3 days)

Until then, if you believe Marciniak's information, then what I would recommend you do, is be as spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and physically prepared for the change, if you are genetically predisposed to change in one of the first early waves of people that are changing.

Or if you're ready, you can read about how to actually purposefully unlock your kundalini through yoga, meditation and diet, and/or White Tantra orgasm-less meditative sex... (actual alchemy.. transmutation)

but i would recommend you NOT do it if you are not prepared.

You can't just write off the sources of all channeled information this easily.

I'm not saying that she wasn't channeled from aliens.
I actually HOPE that's where the information comes from.
the fact is that I don't know so I can't make my mind up about it. The information weighs favorably in my mind, on both sides equally for it to be one or the other... malevolent OR benevolent human Gov sources, or authentic compassionate aliens.

It doesn't matter to me whether that information came from CIA or aliens.
(it would definitely be cooler if it came from aliens)
What matters is if the information was given to her for a specific reason, then all I can think of is that it was given to her in order to prep people for those things to actually happen.. which it is.

I've never envisioned the "light encoded filaments" as Morgellons. Perhaps it's a fit, but maybe not.

So we wait for a different situation where filaments are on and in the skin, with tiny nano-shapes and the sensations of new nerves growing in our bodies.
One that's exactly like that.. but not called morgellons by a lady in New York.
THOSE different ones.. will be the Marciniak channeled DNA shift filaments... not these 'morgellons' ones.......that come with nano-shapes and crawling sensations and chakra opening sensations... but a different identical set of symptoms..
so we have to wait for morgellons to go away completely..
then wait for the exact same thing to come back, and hope that nobody calls it morgellons again, so that we can let it match the imagery she presents in the chanelling exactly.. like it does with morgellons.. but also be exactly to your personal imagination's depiction of it. (however deliniated from morgellons description that may be.. which should be difficult.. I don't know how you do it.)

I wasn't the one who brought up the CIA, but this seems more like a psy-op than a discussion.

the CIA doesn't only do bad things. they just get exposed for their 'bad' things more often than anything 'good' they do.

and no I don't work for the freaking CIA.
at least not to my knowledge.
maybe I am doing something unknowingly in alignment with their agenda concerning human evolution by disseminating the truth here.. .

either way... I'm not getting paid for it.

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by Anomaly

I think you're just really freaking lazy and you don't want to add anything constructive to this conversation, you just want to sit there and be entertained or educated without doing your own searches in order to benefit yourself and others. It's just like you're like "nnnno. uh-uh. gimme."

I will look at the links, but I don't need the ridicule. You're the one with the hypothesis, and it's for you to present the evidence, like you apparently...finally, just did. And don't tell me to do my homework, I do my homework, but it's different than yours. Everybody's is a little bit different. Then, if people are cool, there's a forum here for them visit so we can share the information.
This thing that you and Tango are doing...dropping hints and expecting people to research your fave subjects, is BS. You don't seem to want to discuss, unless that discussion revolves around an agreement to your central premise. Even this thing with the links kind of sucks. I asked you specific questions, which you answered with links. Why not just answer the questions? You had no problem filling the page with your rant.

This is not a mainstream topic, and I do know this since I go through about 15 alternative news lists a day searching for articles for a website. I'm not saying the Morgellons/kundalini connection hasn't been there, but it certainly hasn't been prominent.

Originally Posted by anomaly

So we wait for a different situation where filaments are on and in the skin, with tiny nano-shapes and the sensations of new nerves growing in our bodies.

Marciniak said nothing about filaments on or in the skin or about nano shapes. She talked about light encoded filaments, which I have always taken to be made of light, not flesh, and pertaining to the light body, though in turn affecting the physical form. Also, it seems that if her information source was as interested in informing as the Pleiadians are, they might have mentioned a side effect as debilitating as Morgellons. That would have been an important component of the story.

After I get done digesting your links, I'll respond further.

[Anomaly]

Originally Posted by sun-toon´

This thing that you and Tango are doing...dropping hints and expecting people to research your fave subjects, is BS.

I don't even know Tango.

Marciniak said nothing about filaments on or in the skin or about nano shapes. She talked about light encoded filaments, which I have always taken to be made of light, not flesh, and pertaining to the light body, though in turn affecting the physical form.

wrong. watch the video again.. that catalyst one.
she says "filaments ON the skin and corresponding filaments IN the skin (or body)"

she also says you will be implanted with a shape... then goes on and describes the specific shapes.. and the video shows pictures of the shapes that come out of people who call it 'morgellons'

Also, it seems that if her information source was as interested in informing as the Pleiadians are, they might have mentioned a side effect as debilitating as Morgellons. That would have been an important component of the story.

yes she DOES - she says something like "you will see a disease wipe across the planet that has to do with memory loss and the nervous system because some people's body's and minds will not be able to handle the change"

again.. RE-READ Marciniaks' work.. or watch the catalyst video at the beginning of this thread and listen to what she says.. she says exactly those things that you just said she doesn't say.

here.. watch it again and understand.

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by Anomaly

watch the video again.. that catalyst one.
she says "filaments ON the skin and corresponding filaments IN the skin (or body)"

Well, I went one step further and checked it against the text. It doesn't seem to be from Bringers of the Dawn at all, but from some other version of the same channeled information. I suspect that it's been cut and reassembled to make it work with the images, and to say what the video maker wants it say. There's nothing really wrong with that, unless it's creating a false paradigm....which is what I've been trying to discuss.

From Bringers of the Dawn:
The light-encoded filaments are a tool of light, a part of light, and an expression of light. These light encoded filaments exist as millions of fine, threadlike fibers inside your cells, while counterpart light encoded filaments exist outside of your body. The light-encoded filaments carry the Language of Light geometry, which carries the stories of who you are.
The light-encoded filaments are like rays of light that hold a geometric form of language. They come to you from a cosmic database and hold information.

Originally Posted by Anomaly

she says something like "you will see a disease wipe across the planet that has to do with memory loss and the nervous system because some people's body's and minds will not be able to handle the change"

And so you're sure that this what's happening with Morgellans? Unlucky people who aren't handling the change, instead manifest it as a disease? You can say that, it makes a certain amount of sense, but I don't think it's what Marciniak's Pleiadians were referring to when she spoke those words. In any event it's very thin evidence upon which to build your case.

Bringers of the Dawn is about many things, almost the least of which is the light encoded filaments. It seems logical to me that if the Pleiadians were predicting that the Morgellans disease would come into the world and lead to the physical and spiritual transformation of humans, that this would have taken up a larger portion of the text, or that they would have been a little clearer about it.

Originally Posted by Anomaly

here.. watch it again and understand.

Originally Posted by Tango

See they Stopped learning in school.
They want the teacher to give them the answers so they can re - gurg - itate it on a test... I'm sorry this happened.

OMG...do the two of you have to be so condescending? There are no teachers here, and that includes you Tango...maybe in particular. It's just the blind leading the blind. In that process there's no place for dogmatism, smug self-righteous posturing, or bullying.

Anomaly, I looked at your 15 links and the video. There was a lot of information on kundalini awakening, but I saw nothing tying that to Morgellans. If there is something in all that which does so, please cut it out and paste it into this thread. If you care enough to get your point across...and you cared enough to put up all the links, etc, why won't you just post one plausible piece of evidence, beyond your own assumptions and conclusions, that demonstrates this?

It would almost be better if you just came out and said "I have an intuition". At least then we'd all be on a level playing field and could actually discuss your intuition. When you present this kind of story as fact, then become dogmatic about it when someone simply asks some questions, you're doing yourself, and your worthy cause, an utter disservice.

[Moxie]

I too checked out every single link that is posted and cannot find a correlation between Morgellon's and Kundalini... not at all...
and I was sincerely taken in interest toward this. Regardless, I'm still intrigued!

And Tango, I feel strongly that you are talking to your self as well as we, your audience when you wrote:

"You pooor man.... And, THAT is WHY you don't give Answers."...[**(you mentioned that you don't give answers)...]

"They GET mad at you.... Attack you.... Do you really NEED
all the negative energy"
(you are concerned w/being judged)....
" See they Stopped learning in school.They want the teacher to give them the answers so they can re - gurg - itate it on a test... I'm sorry this happened. YOU DON'T Even KNOW ME..."
Trooly, Tango
***
Tango? You are justly OKAY, okay? You are welcomed by me to write on... I'm listening and paying attention.
nite nite... tho I'm not tired... I bid you a good nite!

What life does to people, it's not always pretty!

[Tango]

Thank you.... Happy you understand...


Dances outta Da Rooom.... [In my Mind]


Trooly,


Tango

[sun-toon´]

Originally Posted by Moxie

I too checked out every single link that is posted and cannot find a correlation between Morgellon's and Kundalini... not at all...
and I was sincerely taken in interest toward this. Regardless, I'm still intrigued!

I'm happy to see that I didn't just miss something obvious in those links...and I agree with Moxie, I'm also intrigued and still hoping to find out more about this. I'm not a materialist, or skeptic, but I like to have a little evidence (and not necessarily scientific) before I accept something as a statement of fact.

I was most distressed by the apparent acceptance of the assertion that all channeling is "brain to skull" transmissions, and comes from the CIA....and maybe more so (though I didn't mention it before) that the CIA is ever involved in good things. :>) OTOH, the brain to skull thing may account for at least some of the channeled crapola that we seem to be buried in these days, though how it could be much worse than what's flowing from rogue astral beings, I don't know.

solarflare: Do you have any links attributing dental sealants to Morgallans? I ran a seach, but found few results.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Moxie

I too checked out every single link that is posted and cannot find a correlation between Morgellon's and Kundalini... not at all...
and I was sincerely taken in interest toward this. Regardless, I'm still intrigued!

And Tango, I feel strongly that you are talking to your self as well as we, your audience when you wrote:

"You pooor man.... And, THAT is WHY you don't give Answers."...[**(you mentioned that you don't give answers)...]

"They GET mad at you.... Attack you.... Do you really NEED
all the negative energy"
(you are concerned w/being judged)....
" See they Stopped learning in school.They want the teacher to give them the answers so they can re - gurg - itate it on a test... I'm sorry this happened. YOU DON'T Even KNOW ME..."
Trooly, Tango
***
Tango? You are justly OKAY, okay? You are welcomed by me to write on... I'm listening and paying attention.
nite nite... tho I'm not tired... I bid you a good nite!

What life does to people, it's not always pretty!

Aloha Moxie. I just want to say what a fabulous avatar - a dancing tree! How delightful.